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Post by Sondergaard on Jan 20, 2017 8:17:17 GMT
I am still letting Sarah die if I have the chance HAHA, will never be happen! But Sara Ryder will gonna be kick in your renegade ass! And AWESOME Mac Walters confirmed on Twitter ,, The Companions and the Ryder Twins Sara and Scott Ryder cannot dies in Mass Effect Andromeda,, !! Rannoch, genophage arc, Virmire, suicide mission, even the Cerberus coup, all missions where NPCs could and did die. Excellent stuff, especially the first time around when you had no idea what was happening. So why would Mac deliberately set out to ruin any expectation of something similar in Andromeda? The more he spouts his crap the more likely it is I don't buy this game.
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Post by Fredward on Jan 20, 2017 8:58:06 GMT
mainly because if I had a person like that around me I would just make her swallow her teeth. Out of curiosity, why? What is it about her that would make you respond that way?
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Post by President of Boom on Jan 20, 2017 11:27:18 GMT
I think you are mistaking a silly, behind-the-scenes, "mockumentary"-style promotional video for a character presentation. I didn't mind the video at all, and while it's possible that those are VA's real mannerisms it really doesn't matter as it appears to have nothing to do with the character she's voicing. From what we've heard so far, Sara neither acts nor sounds like that. I completely understand hating a character and deliberately being rude to them (oh, hi, Miranda, let me introduce you to my friend Jack ; and, Ashley, how is your zombie father ?) but I think you're starting the hatred waaaaay too soon.
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Post by Pokemario on Jan 20, 2017 11:38:58 GMT
I am still letting Sarah die if I have the chance Why? You haven't even met her yet. Does it have anything to do with how you intend to roleplay your Ryder?
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 20, 2017 13:50:26 GMT
mainly because if I had a person like that around me I would just make her swallow her teeth. Out of curiosity, why? What is it about her that would make you respond that way? And before you answer dropzofcrimzon, (if you do) whilst celebrities / politicians / corporations are fair game, and if you want to be rude about Sara Ryder or the way the voice performance is given, fair enough... but we're not going to support anyone being personally mean to individuals, including our 'extended family'. Just saying...
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Post by fade9wayz on Jan 20, 2017 18:06:21 GMT
I don't quite see the problem some people here have with dropzofcrimzon. He's got the right to roleplay however he wishes to. As long as he doesn't insult the VA herself, who is just doing a job, I don't see why he couldn't be mean to Sara if that's what he wants to be. Not all families get along.
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Post by Saboru on Jan 20, 2017 19:05:13 GMT
Rannoch, genophage arc, Virmire, suicide mission, even the Cerberus coup, all missions where NPCs could and did die. Excellent stuff, especially the first time around when you had no idea what was happening. So why would Mac deliberately set out to ruin any expectation of something similar in Andromeda? The more he spouts his crap the more likely it is I don't buy this game. Because it's an expectation the game is not designed to fulfil. It sounds like you were expecting this kind of option to continue, now you know not to and you can make a more informed decision on whether to buy the product. By all means disagree with the decision to make the game that way, but it's churlish to complain that a potential misconception is being cleared up.
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Post by Sondergaard on Jan 21, 2017 9:27:12 GMT
Rannoch, genophage arc, Virmire, suicide mission, even the Cerberus coup, all missions where NPCs could and did die. Excellent stuff, especially the first time around when you had no idea what was happening. So why would Mac deliberately set out to ruin any expectation of something similar in Andromeda? The more he spouts his crap the more likely it is I don't buy this game. Because it's an expectation the game is not designed to fulfil. It sounds like you were expecting this kind of option to continue, now you know not to and you can make a more informed decision on whether to buy the product. By all means disagree with the decision to make the game that way, but it's churlish to complain that a potential misconception is being cleared up. Nope, wasn't expecting it necessarily, but why ruin any sense of trepidation? Why ruin every cliffhanger or moment of peril in the game? What happened to letting us find out for ourselves? Imagine going into a movie after seeing the director giving an interview saying 'don't worry, characters x, y & z don't die'. It's ridiculous. I think this is less about him trying to calm nonexistent fears and more about 'I big man, listen to me! I know things, you don't! Kneel before me!'. Just keep your mouth shut Mac.
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Post by Saboru on Jan 21, 2017 11:07:47 GMT
Because it's an expectation the game is not designed to fulfil. It sounds like you were expecting this kind of option to continue, now you know not to and you can make a more informed decision on whether to buy the product. By all means disagree with the decision to make the game that way, but it's churlish to complain that a potential misconception is being cleared up. Nope, wasn't expecting it necessarily, but why ruin any sense of trepidation? Why ruin every cliffhanger or moment of peril in the game? What happened to letting us find out for ourselves? Imagine going into a movie after seeing the director giving an interview saying 'don't worry, characters x, y & z don't die'. It's ridiculous. I think this is less about him trying to calm nonexistent fears and more about 'I big man, listen to me! I know things, you don't! Kneel before me!'. Just keep your mouth shut Mac. Doesn't sound like either trying to calm fears or play big shot to me, more a case of managing expectations. Not unreasonable expectations, as you point out every game in the series until now has had this sort of element. However it's reasonable expectations you don't intend to fulfil that are the ones you manage most actively.
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Post by Sondergaard on Jan 21, 2017 12:23:04 GMT
Well, we'll have to agree to disagree. But knowing that whatever decision I make, whatever situation I'm in, plot armour will save me, is a pretty immersion breaking experience. Fair enough if they have decided certain characters won't die but you don't tell everybody beforehand. I just don't see an upside to telling people this other than that he is in a position to and felt like it.
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Post by missileglitcher on Jan 21, 2017 23:21:12 GMT
Watching this rite now lel, these guys are fracking hilarious
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jan 23, 2017 0:12:53 GMT
mainly because if I had a person like that around me I would just make her swallow her teeth. Out of curiosity, why? What is it about her that would make you respond that way? sorry man, long week at work, spring is coming which means we are swamped Her interactions in the video with the voice actor for Scott, tho obviously slapstick and intended, made me immediately dislike her and by extension her character should Sarah be played even remotely as obnoxiously. That isnto explain my first comment. My second comment about making a person like that swallow her teeth. A person being that abrasive for the sake of being a dick/bitch as she appears to be in that first video gets 1 warning from me on the line of "cut the crap and stop talking to me"...follow by violence if the offending behaviour is continued. I am not about to take any shit like that tyvm. Now you can see that as I see that behavior SO off putting seeing her in that video has quote thoroughly sullied my view of Sarah and Fryda.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jan 23, 2017 0:13:58 GMT
I think you are mistaking a silly, behind-the-scenes, "mockumentary"-style promotional video for a character presentation. I didn't mind the video at all, and while it's possible that those are VA's real mannerisms it really doesn't matter as it appears to have nothing to do with the character she's voicing. From what we've heard so far, Sara neither acts nor sounds like that. I completely understand hating a character and deliberately being rude to them (oh, hi, Miranda, let me introduce you to my friend Jack ; and, Ashley, how is your zombie father ?) but I think you're starting the hatred waaaaay too soon. sorry...first impressions and all. Already happened now.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jan 23, 2017 0:16:04 GMT
Out of curiosity, why? What is it about her that would make you respond that way? And before you answer dropzofcrimzon, (if you do) whilst celebrities / politicians / corporations are fair game, and if you want to be rude about Sara Ryder or the way the voice performance is given, fair enough... but we're not going to support anyone being personally mean to individuals, including our 'extended family'. Just saying... Take it as you want it but if a person acted towards me the way she acted towards him I would simply do as I said above. Quite simple. You can argue it was meant to be seen that way, I just found it unfunny, annoying as hell and abrasive, enough that now my view of her and the character is skewed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2017 5:40:32 GMT
And before you answer dropzofcrimzon , (if you do) whilst celebrities / politicians / corporations are fair game, and if you want to be rude about Sara Ryder or the way the voice performance is given, fair enough... but we're not going to support anyone being personally mean to individuals, including our 'extended family'. Just saying... Take it as you want it but if a person acted towards me the way she acted towards him I would simply do as I said above. Quite simple. You can argue it was meant to be seen that way, I just found it unfunny, annoying as hell and abrasive, enough that now my view of her and the character is skewed. It'd be terrible if a character tore out your heart with their biotics and then ate it in front of you as things go dark if you did.
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Post by hotdogbsg on Jan 23, 2017 9:52:34 GMT
Out of curiosity, why? What is it about her that would make you respond that way? My second comment about making a person like that swallow her teeth. A person being that abrasive for the sake of being a dick/bitch as she appears to be in that first video gets 1 warning from me on the line of "cut the crap and stop talking to me"...follow by violence if the offending behaviour is continued. I am not about to take any shit like that tyvm.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jan 23, 2017 21:59:32 GMT
My second comment about making a person like that swallow her teeth. A person being that abrasive for the sake of being a dick/bitch as she appears to be in that first video gets 1 warning from me on the line of "cut the crap and stop talking to me"...follow by violence if the offending behaviour is continued. I am not about to take any shit like that tyvm. Awwww another individual who uses to argue against common sense. How quaint.
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Post by hotdogbsg on Jan 23, 2017 22:11:30 GMT
Awwww another individual who uses to argue against common sense. How quaint. Your version of common sense being to make a woman "swallow her teeth" because you don't like her personality?
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jan 23, 2017 22:36:37 GMT
Awwww another individual who uses to argue against common sense. How quaint. Your version of common sense being to make a woman "swallow her teeth" because you don't like her personality? rewatch the video, that is not personality, that is abrasiveness borderlining on bullying, my reaction would be the same weather a man or a woman acted as such. Also re read my post, first comes the warning as a "do not talk to me"
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Post by hotdogbsg on Jan 23, 2017 22:41:24 GMT
Your version of common sense being to make a woman "swallow her teeth" because you don't like her personality? rewatch the video, that is not personality, that is abrasiveness borderlining on bullying, my reaction would be the same weather a man or a woman acted as such. Also re read my post, first comes the warning as a "do not talk to me" First a warning, then Pow! Right in her face. That'll show her.
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Post by dropzofcrimzon on Jan 23, 2017 22:48:02 GMT
rewatch the video, that is not personality, that is abrasiveness borderlining on bullying, my reaction would be the same weather a man or a woman acted as such. Also re read my post, first comes the warning as a "do not talk to me" First a warning, then Pow! Right in her face. That'll show her. I find it far more effective than trying to make stupid people understand that being abrasive in such a gratuitous manner is unwelcome and that I want them to stop interacting with me entirely...as usually this kind of people is simply too thick skulled to understand.
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Post by Cirvante on Jan 23, 2017 23:48:14 GMT
So glad Fryda is Sara Ryder! She seems to have such a likeable personality. I found her to be incredibly obnoxious in that Bioware video and I really hope that it did not set the tone for the sibling relationship in MEA. Her voice is also kinda grating.
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Post by kitcat1228 on Jan 24, 2017 0:50:15 GMT
I've really enjoyed all of Fryda's interviews that I've heard. She comes off intelligent and funny. In this latest one, they talk about the sibling rivalry video, which Fryda mentioned was written/scripted by Conal. I don't think its indicative of either hers or Sara's personality.
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Post by fialka on Jan 24, 2017 2:26:37 GMT
I've really enjoyed all of Fryda's interviews that I've heard. She comes off intelligent and funny. In this latest one, they talk about the sibling rivalry video, which Fryda mentioned was written/scripted by Conal. I don't think its indicative of either hers or Sara's personality. This. I don't recall seeing the same sentiment toward Alix Wilton Reegan after the spit take video? I mean, she was literally spitting in Conal's face repeatedly on purpose. That's way worse than what we saw in the Fryda/Tom video. (Fun fact: that was Conal's idea too... Apparently he has a thing for women being overtly mean to men... ) Anyway. Obviously the thing was a joke. It's one thing to not find it funny - humor is subjective. It's another to take it seriously at all. It was clearly scripted, clearly satire, and the two actors are long time friends so it's not like Fryda Wolff is some evil bully in real life. I highly doubt siblingSara will be either.
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Post by slimgrin on Jan 24, 2017 5:39:00 GMT
I like her voice, but when she started lecturing on about online harassment and gender stuff, it was cringey.
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