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Post by vonuber on Feb 23, 2017 23:06:51 GMT
Ok very well. Bad choice of words. Emotions are the aspect of humanity that should be cremated.
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Post by GannayevOfDreams on Feb 23, 2017 23:08:01 GMT
I would argue that emotions are one of the key aspects to humanity being human. Uncontrolled, unregulated emotion can (and often does) have very negative consequences, but I would hate to see the world that exists without any emotion. As would any human.
World without emotion: Hated the ending though. Emotion should have been eradicated. You seem emotionally invested in ridding the world of emotion. If you started with your own then you'd lack the impetus to care one way or another if the rest of us enjoy ours. Then we wouldn't have to read such nonsense. I think everyone wins.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 23, 2017 23:09:08 GMT
Ok very well. Bad choice of words. Emotions are the aspect of humanity that should be cremated. Who is trying? I will accept that I am.
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Post by KaiserShep on Feb 23, 2017 23:09:56 GMT
How does it break "internal logic and workings of the established universe"? Was there some previous released lore that I haven't seen that says there is no nudity in Mass Effect? Also not completely sure how nudity prevents them from "challenging the audiences intellects". Can you not enjoy nudity and be smart?No. You can't. Nudity makes people think with their bodies and emotions not using their brain and intellect and thus putting themselves in dumb situations. Emotions should be cremated if you want an intelligent conversation. When will you humans learn that your 'feelings' as you call them, can get in the way of big cash payoffs! [cackles maniacally]~Evil Lawyer
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Post by vonuber on Feb 23, 2017 23:19:58 GMT
Who is trying? I will accept that I am. Sorry, Bailey says no.
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Post by unofficialgreycolor on Feb 23, 2017 23:24:08 GMT
I can legit say I see no reason why nudity would affect the story whatsoever. Its something that is so separate to the ability to tell a story its not even funny. The Matrix Trilogy had nudity, I guess that means the story is crap I guess The Babe Ruth Story had no nudity so it must be an amazing film right Yep. After M1 it was.
Disagree. You have to take it as a whole. Its like saying the first 1/3 of a book is good and the rest sucks.
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Feb 24, 2017 0:13:16 GMT
Who is trying? I will accept that I am. Sorry, Bailey says no. I was saying that I will accept that I am an Edge Lord. If you are saying otherwise that is ok too. Read below at the bottom and be happy. No. You can't. Nudity makes people think with their bodies and emotions not using their brain and intellect and thus putting themselves in dumb situations. Emotions should be cremated if you want an intelligent conversation. When will you humans learn that your 'feelings' as you call them, can get in the way of big cash payoffs! [cackles maniacally]~Evil Lawyer He needs promotion and a change of venue into reading all library resources in all the libraries in the world. Disagree. You have to take it as a whole. Its like saying the first 1/3 of a book is good and the rest sucks. Then if you are going to tie them together then... Yes the Babe Ruth movie was good and the Matrix trilogy is crap. As would any human.
World without emotion: Hated the ending though. Emotion should have been eradicated. You seem emotionally invested in ridding the world of emotion. If you started with your own then you'd lack the impetus to care one way or another if the rest of us enjoy ours. Then we wouldn't have to read such nonsense. I think everyone wins.Clever diatribe. Not going to goad me into anger. You do not have to be emotionally invested to have a cause to champion for. I know the world is full of emotional people -that does NOT mean I will take part in the emotional salience. I was referring in that quote you quoted to the movie world NOT the real world -unless you mean my earlier post then that is what you should have quoted. Also for me not to care about being anti-emotion while all those who are emotional enjoy theirs and can voice it as they please -would be a one-sided issue. If a debate has one side silenced then it is pointless to say that everyone wins for one side has lost. If I must be hated for being the one to stand contradictory to everyone else and speak for those who can't stand emotion then so be it -I shall be the villain. But go ahead be happy, dance for joy... those of you who can feel emotion because you will be overjoyed now for I have said my peace and am done with this thread.
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Post by VanSinn on Feb 24, 2017 1:53:13 GMT
*snip for space savings* Also for me not to care about being anti-emotion while all those who are emotional enjoy theirs and can voice it as they please -would be a one-sided issue. If a debate has one side silenced then it is pointless to say that everyone wins for one side has lost. If I must be hated for being the one to stand contradictory to everyone else and speak for those who can't stand emotion then so be it -I shall be the villain. But go ahead be happy, dance for joy... those of you who can feel emotion because you will be overjoyed now for I have said my peace and am done with this thread. I will say at the outset that I disagree with your viewpoint. I will also say, however, that I will not dismiss your viewpoint. I would argue that exterminating emotion could lead to calamities worse than those caused by emotion. You may then argue (and I'm not putting words in your mouth specifically, but providing context for my stance) that negative, destructive emotions such as jealousy, greed, overweening ambition/pride are not balanced by the more positive emotions such as compassion and charity, and you (the hypothetical you, not you specifically) may well be right. I, however, would argue that removing all emotion may improve conditions on earth, although I doubt it, but it would be the worst way of trying to improve conditions. I would argue that attempting to control your emotions, focus your efforts on the positive ones, leads to better results in the end. Of course, in many ways I'm an idealist, with a realist bent. I'm actively raising my children to be free thinkers, with compassion for their fellows, and the ability to discern for themselves the best paths towards life, and that's all I can do outside my own life proper. I will say that my preferred ideal isn't realistic, but neither is yours (eliminating all emotion). In the face of two unrealistic options, I would prefer to advocate for what I feel would be the better option. Of course, this discussion is entirely academic, since neither position is truly realistic, but I do enjoy discussions along these lines. I'm not attempting to persuade you to my viewpoint (arguing over the internet is the most pointless exercise known to man) but I do find such discussions entertaining.
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Post by fidothegran on Feb 25, 2017 18:09:32 GMT
Yesterday I made a poll about whether the nudity would be avoidable. Nearly 90% of the answers were "yes". Well, I am going to contradict that and say it will be going full Game of Thrones. They are trying to pander to the lowest common denominator, and this is an easy way to do that.
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Post by TaliWhacker on Feb 25, 2017 18:15:28 GMT
Yesterday I made a poll about whether the nudity would be avoidable. Nearly 90% of the answers were "yes". Well, I am going to contradict that and say it will be going full Game of Thrones. They are trying to pander to the lowest common denominator, and this is an easy way to do that. Full game of thrones? You mean people will be banging with voyure that is also being voyured through a key hole?
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Post by Pearl on Feb 25, 2017 18:16:05 GMT
your opinion has been noted
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Post by vonuber on Feb 25, 2017 18:18:32 GMT
Yesterday I made a poll about whether the nudity would be avoidable. Nearly 90% of the answers were "yes". Well, I am going to contradict that and say it will be going full Game of Thrones. They are trying to pander to the lowest common denominator, and this is an easy way to do that. Sounds brilliant.
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Post by bshep on Feb 25, 2017 18:22:03 GMT
So you didn't like that most people didn't agree with you and then you decided to create another thread just to inform us of that?
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Post by SofaJockey on Feb 25, 2017 18:26:10 GMT
To avoid a breakout of nudity threads, I'm popping this into the 'Ratings and nudity' thread...
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Post by alanc9 on Feb 25, 2017 19:44:20 GMT
Yesterday I made a poll about whether the nudity would be avoidable. Nearly 90% of the answers were "yes". Well, I am going to contradict that and say it will be going full Game of Thrones. They are trying to pander to the lowest common denominator, and this is an easy way to do that. Where are you going with this? Your prediction is obvious nonsense, and the people who disagree with you will probably break very heavily in favor of GoT, a show which manages to be both good and popular. "Good" meaning critically approved and popular meaning good ratings; I get that you don't like it.
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Post by BadgerladDK on Feb 25, 2017 19:53:04 GMT
Wait, what? Famous naked Banshee? ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
Amused, I am, that you have not seen her....
Holy crap, a talking cooter! This time you've gone too far, BioWare. That's no place for a speech bubble 😂
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Post by Petroshenko on Feb 25, 2017 19:54:12 GMT
Nudity is aviodable by not buying the game if its presence bothers someone that much (while commiting mass murdering at the same time doesn't)
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Post by theflyingzamboni on Feb 25, 2017 20:11:57 GMT
I just saw the rating for Andromeda and it confirmed what I was worried they would do, Which is to fall into the same trap that many anticipated entertainment productions do, which is to overdo everything that frankly detracts from the central experience like more gore and morbid violence to hide lack of suspence and story telling, more sex to appeal to base instincts instead of challenging the audiences intellects. The Mass effect Trilogy had some really excellent intimate and disarming moments, like in Mass Effect 3 right before the final battle and the scene with Liara. Don't missunderstand me the trilogy had some bad elements also but Bioware already had some very good template of what were good in the trilogy. I honestly hope I've the wrong impression, but it doesn't look like that's the case considering the previews for Andromeda are very mixed regarding the quality of the game. And they seem to be making - Inquisition in space - along with it's cringeworthy explicit nude scenes. I just don't think explicit nudity works in what's already been established within the Mass Effect universe. Things like this breaks the internal logic and workings of the established universe in favor and t'n'a. I've been waiting for this game for almost 5 years now, soaking up every tidbit along they way; even considering the fact that they've shown the game only very sparsely, and only recently with only weeks until release. Yet the more I see of this game the less excited I become to play it. Wait. You think nipples break the logic of the MEU? How even. One assumes that humans in the MEU have them, just like real humans. No matter how many ways I try to look at it, I will never understand the anti-nudity crowd.
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Post by fidothegran on Mar 1, 2017 5:41:30 GMT
So with little more that two weeks until the public gets to play Andromeda, why is the rating not out yet? Spoilers maybe?
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Post by cybercache188 on Mar 1, 2017 5:42:18 GMT
it is i believe its rated M for nudity,blood and gore,strong violence,strong language,drug use,strong sexual content
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Mar 1, 2017 5:48:50 GMT
Rated M for Mac Walters.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 5:59:20 GMT
The rating is out. M for masturbation. According to the Bioware chief it is a softcore porn game now (joking).
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Post by Pearl on Mar 1, 2017 7:36:50 GMT
Are you high too?
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