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Post by fialka on Feb 10, 2017 2:59:34 GMT
Is that dumbass ending leak thread closed yet ? It should've been locked immediately. Dutch is a liar and a troll and I never could stand him on the old BSN. He's a fucking douchebag. And now my first post in the Jaal thread for today is a profanity laden mini-rant. Hi guys ! Hi yourself. Off-topic, but I love that I can swear on this forum. I generally don't, but sometimes there's nothing like a good bit of profanity to really get your point across. And yes, it's still going. At the very least a mod should add [debunked] to the title or something. So people can continue to speculate on the 'ideas' presented if they wish, but it doesn't scare people afraid of real spoilers off the forum.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 3:00:54 GMT
Also, I keep hearing this talk in the Vetra thread of Vetra being a bi romance, and that'd be great and all. But then that leaves m/m romances getting the short stick once again, unless Liam is bi. Which looks more and more unlikely. I'd just be kinda pissed if women get two f/f squad-members and we just get one. A dev may have revealed her as a LI and the bi talk comes from an unconfirmed leak and the devs encouraging both sexes to talk to her and see where it leads.
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Post by Ceoldoren on Feb 10, 2017 3:01:13 GMT
Is that dumbass ending leak thread closed yet ? It should've been locked immediately. Dutch is a liar and a troll and I never could stand him on the old BSN. He's a fucking douchebag. And now my first post in the Jaal thread for today is a profanity laden mini-rant. Hi guys ! Not yet and I'm with ya! I was so upset it ruined my enjoyment of Jaal! He linked us to some random poster who put the leak up, and a few plausible things got people worried (me included) but then we debunked it and Ian sealed the deal! I saw it when I woke up this morning and it made me laugh it was so stupid. Dutch is well known for being a lying prick so I knew it as fake before I even started reading it. But it was pretty hilarious just how completely made up it was. Bioware have made some questionable decisions before, but I can never see them rail-roading us into a one gender lock for a sequel.
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Post by Neria on Feb 10, 2017 3:05:42 GMT
Am I the only one who prefers a new protagonist each game? Personally my favorite part is getting a new person to play. And meeting new companions. And getting new romances! And I just tend to prefer shorter, self-contained stories in general. The reason the Shepard story worked was because it was all one big story told in three parts. But Andromeda looks like a long game already... I'd just rather that story end, so we can move on to a different one with a different character in the next installment. I'm actually glad DA went the way it did... especially in regards to Hawke. She was my least favorite protagonist in all the Bioware games (though she was admittedly better in the DLC). I mean, I didn't hate her or anything, but... I was glad to move on. And if Hawke was in Inquisition, we might never have gotten that Solas romance. Or Cullen... Because those resources would probably have gone to carrying our old romances over instead. Also, if we'd had the same protagonist from the beginning... that's one big hero doing a whole lot of things! I just think that protagonist becomes unrealistically important to that world then. Now, I'm already getting the feeling I'll love my Ryder a lot - I like what I've heard so far about the dialogue system and I love Fryda and what I've heard of her performance so far. But I think I'd still like her story to come to a conclusion, and move on to something new in the next game. Though I certainly wouldn't be opposed to a nice long post-game DLC! I very much prefer a new protagonist for each game. The Shepard trilogy was fun, no doubt about it, and developing a relationship with Garrus was a huge part of that fun for me, but ultimately I prefer story extensions with the same character to just be DLCs (like DAI) and the next game to move on to something else. And yeah, Hawke bored me. Also, unpopular opinion: I like the PC unvoiced. I know that's never coming back, though (alas, KOTOR and DAO, you were wonderful to me).
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Post by Rynnju on Feb 10, 2017 3:06:46 GMT
That whole leak was pure silliness. If they ended the game that way, they would get enormous backlash and for good reason. I get a very strong feeling that they're going to play it pretty damn safe in this game because of the huge backlash from ME3. I already got that impression from the "your squadmates can't die" thing. So, honestly, I'm noooot really holding my breath for a unique, daring story that blows me away for that very reason. That "leak" would certainly be a story that blew me away, in the worst possible way!
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Post by Ceoldoren on Feb 10, 2017 3:07:07 GMT
Also, I keep hearing this talk in the Vetra thread of Vetra being a bi romance, and that'd be great and all. But then that leaves m/m romances getting the short stick once again, unless Liam is bi. Which looks more and more unlikely. I'd just be kinda pissed if women get two f/f squad-members and we just get one. A dev may have revealed her as a LI and the bi talk comes from an unconfirmed leak and the devs encouraging both sexes to talk to her and see where it leads. Has she been sorta confirmed kinda like Jaal was ? I'd be cool with her being the lesbian LI. I don't have a problem with one of the gay romances being a squad-mate and the other being a crew-member. I just don't want the balance to be tilted in one genders/orientations favor once again. Because I'd rather not have to complain about getting the short stick again like I have with every other Bioware game.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 3:08:55 GMT
A dev may have revealed her as a LI and the bi talk comes from an unconfirmed leak and the devs encouraging both sexes to talk to her and see where it leads. Has she been sorta confirmed kinda like Jaal was ? I'd be cool with her being the lesbian LI. I don't have a problem with one of the gay romances being a squad-mate and the other being a crew-member. I just don't want the balance to be tilted in one genders/orientations favor once again. Because I'd rather not have to complain about getting the short stick again like I have with every other Bioware game. Ummm... yes? Maybe? They basically said talk to her and find out yourself. They also said that with PeeBee and we know she's a romance, and the dev called her our space wife before deleting the tweet super fast! It's actually funny that Jaal was the first to be hinted at.
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Post by Rynnju on Feb 10, 2017 3:09:15 GMT
A dev may have revealed her as a LI and the bi talk comes from an unconfirmed leak and the devs encouraging both sexes to talk to her and see where it leads. Has she been sorta confirmed kinda like Jaal was ? I'd be cool with her being the lesbian LI. I don't have a problem with one of the gay romances being a squad-mate and the other being a crew-member. I just don't want the balance to be tilted in one genders/orientations favor once again. Because I'd rather not have to complain about getting the short stick again like I have with every other Bioware game. Not nearly as "confirmed" as Jaal is but, in my opinion, to the point where I'd be a little like "huh?" if she turned out to not be an LI.
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Post by Gludipow on Feb 10, 2017 3:12:30 GMT
About that leak, I wanna know who in their right mind actually heard it was from 4chan and still thought it was viable. I still think it's funny that despite the devs laughing at it and saying "lol, nope. Not a real leak" Dutch is still like "guys, it's a real leak GAWD!"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 3:13:23 GMT
About that leak, I wanna know who in their right mind actually heard it was from 4chan and still thought it was viable. I still think it's funny that despite the devs laughing at it and saying "lol, nope. Not a real leak" Dutch is still like "guys, it's a real leak GAWD!" At rare times, they have had real leaks, so we try to keep everything listed under a possibility until proven otherwise.
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Post by Artemis on Feb 10, 2017 3:14:46 GMT
/off topic, but... Me: *playing a renegade FemShep Me: *meeting Garrus for the first time* Garrus: I want to help you track down Fist and Saran! Me: *selects renegade option* Shepard: *says something racist* Me: WTF?!?! Maybe saying goodbye to the paragon/renegade system isn't such a bad thing
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Post by Ceoldoren on Feb 10, 2017 3:16:17 GMT
Has she been sorta confirmed kinda like Jaal was ? I'd be cool with her being the lesbian LI. I don't have a problem with one of the gay romances being a squad-mate and the other being a crew-member. I just don't want the balance to be tilted in one genders/orientations favor once again. Because I'd rather not have to complain about getting the short stick again like I have with every other Bioware game. Ummm... yes? Maybe? They basically said talk to her and find out yourself. They also said that with PeeBee and we know she's a romance, and the dev called her our space wife before deleting the tweet super fast! It's actually funny that Jaal was the first to be hinted at. Well then....I don't really wanna hope for her to be gay because I know that'll screw people who wanna romance her with BroRyder...but I kinda do hope she's gay. Or, well, if she's bi Liam better be bi too. And I don't wanna hear them giving the 'It doesn't fit the character !' excuse for Liam when he's not. That's the most straight person excuse I've ever heard. Like being bi or gay has some kinda major effect on your personality.....please. Alright I'm gonna stop bitching about this, I don't like being a downer !
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Post by ames4u on Feb 10, 2017 3:19:41 GMT
Solas? Jaal? Bioware know what they're doing, look at you all, you're all indoctrinated! Bioware: And we're not telling you everything about who can be romanced by what!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2017 3:20:34 GMT
Ummm... yes? Maybe? They basically said talk to her and find out yourself. They also said that with PeeBee and we know she's a romance, and the dev called her our space wife before deleting the tweet super fast! It's actually funny that Jaal was the first to be hinted at. Well then....I don't really wanna hope for her to be gay because I know that'll screw people who wanna romance her with BroRyder...but I kinda do hope she's gay. Or, well, if she's bi Liam better be bi too. And I don't wanna hear them giving the 'It doesn't fit the character !' excuse for Liam when he's not. That's the most straight person excuse I've ever heard. Like being bi or gay has some kinda major effect on your personality.....please. Alright I'm gonna stop bitching about this, I don't like being a downer ! Yeah I am trying to keep the optimism flowing but I'm emotionally drained from all the crazy stuff happening everyday (we all thought it would be a quiet week haha) lol so I'm going to bed now. Will probably wake up to page 165 or something LOL Artemis same thing happened to me! Poor Garrus!
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Post by fialka on Feb 10, 2017 3:25:52 GMT
/off topic, but... Me: *playing a renegade FemShep Me: *meeting Garrus for the first time* Garrus: I want to help you track down Fist and Saran! Me: *selects renegade option* Shepard: *says something racist* Me: WTF?!?! Maybe saying goodbye to the paragon/renegade system isn't such a bad thing Agreed! I tried to play a renegade Shepard... I was hoping she'd be this direct, take-no-shit, badass type... but I kept getting dialogue like that one. The one where she calls Joker 'crippled' is nice too... Anyway, I couldn't do it! The closest I could get was playing a paragon that takes the occasional renegade interrupt. I'm looking forward to the dialogue system in Andromeda a lot. Hopefully I can play a badass, pragmatic, anti-hero without having her be a close-minded racist jerk...
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Post by Rynnju on Feb 10, 2017 3:26:22 GMT
That Renegade option thing reminds me of a moment in the game The Wolf Among Us. At some point, one of our choices in regards to another character was simply "Glass Him". A lot of people either didn't know what that meant or thought it was a choice to be civil and offer the character a drink. So people innocently chose it. Turns out the choice was to literally smash a glass into the character's face! I'll just hope that no choices in Andromeda are as vague about the douchebag option as that.
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@beautesombre - Oh my goodness! That song brings back such lovely memories! Hrm, you are right, it'd be an awesome song for Garrus! Though now after listening to it, I may just have to go with that one for Jaal! I may have to take a trip down memory lane in search of an oldie, but goodie! (Air Supply, Foreigner, Journey, REO Speedwagon, etc) Oh my, now I may have to go with Air Supply - Making Love Out of Nothing At All kissed by fire - Oooh, that's beautiful! She has a beautiful voice! All these songs are giving me the feels! Like someone else mentioned, my Ryder will totally be stealing Jaal's #spaceponcho
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Post by ames4u on Feb 10, 2017 3:28:36 GMT
Also, I keep hearing this talk in the Vetra thread of Vetra being a bi romance, and that'd be great and all. But then that leaves m/m romances getting the short stick once again, unless Liam is bi. Which looks more and more unlikely. I'd just be kinda pissed if women get two f/f squad-members and we just get one. That would largely depend on the non-squad mate romances. Even if there may be an imbalance on the squad, that may be evened out with non-squad members being available to certain orientations.
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Post by avokinelsam on Feb 10, 2017 3:29:01 GMT
Ummm... yes? Maybe? They basically said talk to her and find out yourself. They also said that with PeeBee and we know she's a romance, and the dev called her our space wife before deleting the tweet super fast! It's actually funny that Jaal was the first to be hinted at. Well then....I don't really wanna hope for her to be gay because I know that'll screw people who wanna romance her with BroRyder...but I kinda do hope she's gay. Or, well, if she's bi Liam better be bi too. And I don't wanna hear them giving the 'It doesn't fit the character !' excuse for Liam when he's not. That's the most straight person excuse I've ever heard. Like being bi or gay has some kinda major effect on your personality.....please. Alright I'm gonna stop bitching about this, I don't like being a downer ! "That's the most straight person excuse I've ever heard." TOTALLY AGREE
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Post by Ceoldoren on Feb 10, 2017 3:39:01 GMT
Also, I keep hearing this talk in the Vetra thread of Vetra being a bi romance, and that'd be great and all. But then that leaves m/m romances getting the short stick once again, unless Liam is bi. Which looks more and more unlikely. I'd just be kinda pissed if women get two f/f squad-members and we just get one. That would largely depend on the non-squad mate romances. Even if there may be an imbalance on the squad, that may be evened out with non-squad members being available to certain orientations. Maybe, but I'm thinking we'll probably only get two full fledged romances outside of our Squad. And one of them is probably Reyes, our gay option. Which puts us at 2 if you count Jaal whose kinda confirmed. The other is still up in the air but most people have said Dr. Lexi, and they think she'll be a lesbian. Which is why I think if Vetra is a romance she'll probably be bi as well. I stopped hoping for balance after the DA:I romances got confirmed. So I'm not gonna complain if it's not balanced again. The only time it was balanced was DA2 and while I had no problem with the system personally. I totally understood and supported the people who didn't like it. As long as Bioware agrees to never go back to ME1 where gay guys were stuck with nothing at all. I won't complain. I don't really think it's good that we have to settle with 'Well, at least it's not as bad as no romance !' But...you can't always get what you want, right ?
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Post by ames4u on Feb 10, 2017 3:40:29 GMT
So in regards to the tweet about the devs not revealing all the potential LI's and their sexual preference-is anyone else irked by this? I've always sought out information as to who can be romanced by what at an early stage so I don't feel I've wasted my time chasing wild geese.
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Post by Jaal Ama Darav (Kierro) on Feb 10, 2017 3:42:40 GMT
Also, I keep hearing this talk in the Vetra thread of Vetra being a bi romance, and that'd be great and all. But then that leaves m/m romances getting the short stick once again, unless Liam is bi. Which looks more and more unlikely. I'd just be kinda pissed if women get two f/f squad-members and we just get one. I mentioned this in another thread. It was said Peebee and Vetra have an... "interesting" relationship. So likely they get together. And with the possibility of multiple relationships, I believe Vetra will have a threesome with Scott and Peebee, but Sara can only romance which can make or break a friendship with Vetra.
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Post by Ceoldoren on Feb 10, 2017 3:44:20 GMT
So in regards to the tweet about the devs not revealing all the potential LI's and their sexual preference-is anyone else irked by this? I've always sought out information as to who can be romanced by what at an early stage so I don't feel I've wasted my time chasing wild geese.
Oh yeah, lots of people don't like it. I don't like it, it fucks everyone who likes to safely plan out their Gender, class, and romance. I don't like going in blind on those things. I don't like spoiling major plot, but I like to know who I can romance and who I can romance them with. The fact that they're cool officially confirming some of them. But not all of them is what really bugs me though. That just rubs me totally the wrong way.
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Post by Gludipow on Feb 10, 2017 3:44:23 GMT
And now I've just found there is a thread complaining about the boob sizes of female characters...
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