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Post by ninaskye on May 11, 2017 3:48:53 GMT
God I miss being able to do that. As well as the repeatable make out scenes I had with Cullen. Why can't I do that with Jaal?! Fix fix this, Bioware! Pretty please?I was very, very surprised we couldnt kiss our LIs whenever we wanted. Only thing I saw like that is being able to repeat casual sex with Peebee. Well of course we can do that with Peebee! No, I don't hate her. She's actually pretty interesting. I'm just still annoyed at the obvious favouritism towards her by the devs.
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Post by Obiwancomeblowme on May 11, 2017 3:49:06 GMT
Hey sorry for a off topic but I want to ask your opinion about Jaal related matter in game. Some time ago Dana Duchy on Youtube posted a video compilation of all LI last talk before going to fight Archont. Video in spoiler When you fast forward to 3:53 into video we get Jaal conversation and Sara's answer "It's nice knowing you understand". Jaal Than says "Understand? I feel your eveery emotion as if it were my own". Do you think that he does because he knosw Sara so well or maybe Angara do form some sort of bond with their romantic partner/lover? Any thoughts? Maybe it is some... asari-like bond with who they mate with?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 3:49:07 GMT
I think while driving the Nomad, I'd end up driving off a cliff if I had to choose a dialogue option. Hahaha LOL flying through the air over the cliffside while saying your piece and crashing n burning immediately after. Good job gang! heyhey nobody said pathfinding would be easy Reminds me of the other day. I was trying to make my squad laugh on that gravity planet and they were yelling instead. I ended up on my side, wheels pressed against the bridge and fell off. When I was teleported back, I spun off since I was placed too close and Jaal and Liam starting to chat casually as we fell to our doom!
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Post by Kymira on May 11, 2017 3:49:25 GMT
I don't care if he's unavailable for romance in DA4. I just want him there in Tevinter. In the underground trying to free the slaves. I know they wouldn't do it, but I would love the story about being a slave. Elven and having an uprising with Fenris. Maybe the option of joining Solas or going against him.Considering how well Fenris responded to the previous mage with grand ambitions of changing the world...I think the latter is more likely TBH, I mostly want to see Fenris and Solas have a grump-off. For...lore reasons. Yes. Let's go with that! This reminds me of that comic strip I saw a looong time ago with Fenris cursing the dread wolf in oh so colorful language because he manifests magical powers during the veil drop, and it cuts to Solas standing all regal on some cliffside admiring his work and he just turns around abruptly like, SOMEONES TALKIN SHIT?
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on May 11, 2017 3:49:27 GMT
couldn't the explanation be the same though? for example it could be that everyone has translators for their own native language, So if Ryder is talking to someone who speaks Russian or french Ryder will still hear English etc. (or whatever language you're playing the game in of course.) I'm sure this is the case, but I do hope people in ME make attempts to learn other languages still, it's such an important cultural exchange. And I don't mean just words or phrases like Jaal teaches us, I mean full on learning the language...both for alien languages (assuming we aren't missing the equipment to create the right sounds) and Earth languages. I still think they would, I mean even with the translators Jaal still tries to teach his own language, so I definitely headcanon Ryder actually learning it, especially for diplomatic reasons. Besides Learning language is good for the brain etc. You know what they say, use it or lose it. I love studying languages myself.
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Post by fadburger on May 11, 2017 3:50:20 GMT
At least the "good thing" (negligible lol) is that SAM is always ruining Nomad convos so I always make a complete stop as soon as people start talking in the Nomad anyway lol. Ugh, I want to play again now...and listen to the banter. Maybe I will just find YouTube videos haha Yeah, when the banter bug initially was fixed I drove around for hours to hear some of it...not extremely fun or rewarding lol, it's much more relaxing to just listen to the compilations xD
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Post by Obiwancomeblowme on May 11, 2017 3:50:24 GMT
I was very, very surprised we couldnt kiss our LIs whenever we wanted. Only thing I saw like that is being able to repeat casual sex with Peebee. Well of course we can do that with Peebee! No, I don't hate her. She's actually pretty interesting. I'm just still annoyed at the obvious favouritism towards her by the devs. I agree. I wanted to hate her because of principle, but I actually really like her. Her story is really nice, and I appreciate what she goes through from the time she wakes up from cryo to deciding to stay with us.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 3:51:36 GMT
Hey sorry for a off topic but I want to ask your opinion about Jaal related matter in game. Some time ago Dana Duchy on Youtube posted a video compilation of all LI last talk before going to fight Archont. Video in spoiler When you fast forward to 3:53 into video we get Jaal conversation and Sara's answer "It's nice knowing you understand". Jaal Than says "Understand? I feel your every emotion as if it were my own". Do you think that he does because he knosw Sara so well or maybe Angara do form some sort of bond with their romantic partner/lover? Any thoughts? I remember that from the sound files! Hmmm... Angara feel deeply Jaal said. Could have a double meaning or his electricity is still in her and maybe permanent? Also I fear their sex scene if I'm a biotic. I keep thinking we'll cause an explosion. He also gets itchy from Mass Effect fields it seems based on Cora's LM.
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Post by kestrel on May 11, 2017 3:53:03 GMT
I really should go more into head canon stuff for angara culture with my Jaal fics. It seems like it'd be interesting, even if/when Bioware retcons all my ideas.
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Post by fadburger on May 11, 2017 3:53:03 GMT
I'm sure this is the case, but I do hope people in ME make attempts to learn other languages still, it's such an important cultural exchange. And I don't mean just words or phrases like Jaal teaches us, I mean full on learning the language...both for alien languages (assuming we aren't missing the equipment to create the right sounds) and Earth languages. I still think they would, I mean even with the translators Jaal still tries to teach his language so I definitely headcanon Ryder actually learning it, especially for diplomatic reasons. Besides Learning language is good for the brain etc. You know what they say, use it or lose it. I love studying languages myself. I love the idea of Shep or Ryder learning the language of the LI, it's really sweet~. Although yeah, Ryder could definitely want to for diplomatic reasons as well. I love languages even though I am not so great at learning them, and my dumb brain only has room for one at a time lol (I used to be nearly fluent in Hebrew...until I started learning Japanese...).
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on May 11, 2017 3:53:51 GMT
That and Shelesh terms used within conversations that are otherwise heard by Ryder in English...like why do we hear "taoshay", "tavetaan", "rofjinn", "isharay", etc. in Shelesh? Especially something like "isharay" which has a direct translation to "goodbye" unlike the other ones which one could argue are more conceptual. Yeah it's a bit odd. Not like Shepard with the "Siha" glitch thing. I know the Angara translators kick in due to already having met humans, but that makes no sense. Also I didn't realize SAM is implanted in all my squad! Drack talks about it. Wait, I thought the implant is only in the human members. Drack, Peebee, Vetra, and Jaal can hear SAM, but they don't have the full-on implant. Or at least, that's what I think Drack implies. He's creeped out by SAM, and he says, "Yeah, if you wanna hook that thing up to my comm, sure--but that's where it stops." That doesn't sound like an implant to me.
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Post by Dirk on May 11, 2017 3:54:55 GMT
I'm sure this is the case, but I do hope people in ME make attempts to learn other languages still, it's such an important cultural exchange. And I don't mean just words or phrases like Jaal teaches us, I mean full on learning the language...both for alien languages (assuming we aren't missing the equipment to create the right sounds) and Earth languages. I still think they would, I mean even with the translators Jaal still tries to teach his own language, so I definitely headcanon Ryder actually learning it, especially for diplomatic reasons. Besides Learning language is good for the brain etc. You know what they say, use it or lose it. I love studying languages myself. Ryder and Jaal probably teach each other how to say "I love you" in their own language.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 3:55:02 GMT
Yeah it's a bit odd. Not like Shepard with the "Siha" glitch thing. I know the Angara translators kick in due to already having met humans, but that makes no sense. Also I didn't realize SAM is implanted in all my squad! Drack talks about it. Wait, I thought the implant is only in the human members. Drack, Peebee, Vetra, and Jaal can hear SAM, but they don't have the full-on implant. Or at least, that's what I think Drack implies. He's creeped out by SAM, and he says, "Yeah, if you wanna hook that thing up to my comm, sure--but that's where it stops." That doesn't sound like an implant to me. Oh good! I was thinking it was like those ear implants haha and I think Jaal wanting to take SAM apart freaked out Ryder badly.
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Post by ninaskye on May 11, 2017 3:56:01 GMT
I really want to hear some Angaran songs. Also, I've noticed that this is the first time we've heard an alien language being given a name. The Quarians spoke a few phrases in their own language, but we were never told what their language is called.
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Post by fadburger on May 11, 2017 3:56:46 GMT
I still think they would, I mean even with the translators Jaal still tries to teach his own language, so I definitely headcanon Ryder actually learning it, especially for diplomatic reasons. Besides Learning language is good for the brain etc. You know what they say, use it or lose it. I love studying languages myself. Ryder and Jaal probably teach each other how to say "I love you" in their own language. That's so sweet, I bet they do~
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 3:57:15 GMT
I really want to hear some Angaran songs. Also, I've noticed that this is the first time we've heard an alien language being given a name. The Quarians spoke a few phrases in their own language, but we were never told what their language is called. Yeah I kept saying "Angaran" like on the crew board, then I played again and actually read the datapads!
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on May 11, 2017 3:57:38 GMT
When you fast forward to 3:53 into video we get Jaal conversation and Sara's answer "It's nice knowing you understand". Jaal Than says "Understand? I feel your every emotion as if it were my own". Do you think that he does because he knosw Sara so well or maybe Angara do form some sort of bond with their romantic partner/lover? Any thoughts? I suspect it's a combination of knowing Ryder well, and the angara being emotional feels mallows They seem to have a heightened sense of empathy--nothing space magicky or unique to their biology, though. More like...a logical conclusion of being so free with their emotions. So if Ryder, or Liam, or anybody Jaal cares about is in pain, he feels that pain acutely. If they're happy, he's also happy. And so on.
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Post by fadburger on May 11, 2017 3:58:15 GMT
I really want to hear some Angaran songs. Also, I've noticed that this is the first time we've heard an alien language being given a name. The Quarians spoke a few phrases in their own language, but we were never told what their language is called. I want to hear the wedding songgggg
I also want to hear the individual angaran languages from the different planets, since Shelesh is a trade language/pidgin.
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Post by Obiwancomeblowme on May 11, 2017 3:59:51 GMT
I really want to hear some Angaran songs. Also, I've noticed that this is the first time we've heard an alien language being given a name. The Quarians spoke a few phrases in their own language, but we were never told what their language is called. I want to hear the wedding songgggg
I also want to hear the individual angaran languages from the different planets, since Shelesh is a trade language/pidgin. I want to learn everything I can about the Angara. I'd get so made when SAM would talk over someone telling me about Angara. Almost disconnected SAM entirely because of it. Haha there has to be a mod for it.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on May 11, 2017 4:01:12 GMT
I still think they would, I mean even with the translators Jaal still tries to teach his language so I definitely headcanon Ryder actually learning it, especially for diplomatic reasons. Besides Learning language is good for the brain etc. You know what they say, use it or lose it. I love studying languages myself. I love the idea of Shep or Ryder learning the language of the LI, it's really sweet~. Although yeah, Ryder could definitely want to for diplomatic reasons as well. I love languages even though I am not so great at learning them, and my dumb brain only has room for one at a time lol (I used to be nearly fluent in Hebrew...until I started learning Japanese...). don't worry, even after several years my German is still poo but you're most likely just rusty and if you freshened up on your Hebrew I'm sure it's still there, you're probably still fluent. I love Japanese but the only time I ever got help was when my cousins from out of state would come out to visit me, however I would end up forgetting the word they taught me once they left. >.< Lovely language though. Anyway, good night lovely peeps, I have to take care of some things and get to bed at a decent time.
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Post by ninaskye on May 11, 2017 4:01:57 GMT
Hey sorry for a off topic but I want to ask your opinion about Jaal related matter in game. Some time ago Dana Duchy on Youtube posted a video compilation of all LI last talk before going to fight Archont. Video in spoiler When you fast forward to 3:53 into video we get Jaal conversation and Sara's answer "It's nice knowing you understand". Jaal Than says "Understand? I feel your every emotion as if it were my own". Do you think that he does because he knosw Sara so well or maybe Angara do form some sort of bond with their romantic partner/lover? Any thoughts? I remember that from the sound files! Hmmm... Angara feel deeply Jaal said. Could have a double meaning or his electricity is still in her and maybe permanent? Also I fear their sex scene if I'm a biotic. I keep thinking we'll cause an explosion. He also gets itchy from Mass Effect fields it seems based on Cora's LM. My Ryder is a biotic. It's quite jarring and interesting when characters start talking about biotics and she never interjects. Meanwhile in DA your class is often referred to. During Cora's LM when she jumped up and helped with the biotic shield, my Ryder just sat there and let them do all the work. I was like; "You lazy bum, Sara."
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Post by Obiwancomeblowme on May 11, 2017 4:03:40 GMT
I remember that from the sound files! Hmmm... Angara feel deeply Jaal said. Could have a double meaning or his electricity is still in her and maybe permanent? Also I fear their sex scene if I'm a biotic. I keep thinking we'll cause an explosion. He also gets itchy from Mass Effect fields it seems based on Cora's LM. My Ryder is a biotic. It's quite jarring and interesting when characters start talking about biotics and she never interjects. Meanwhile in DA your class is often referred to. During Cora's LM when she jumped up and helped with the biotic shield, my Ryder just sat there and let them do all the work. I was like; "You lazy bum, Sara." I thought the same thing. I bet it has a lot to do with the fact you can be everything in this game. That choice at the beginning has very little to do with things later, just about what powers become available sooner from what I understand.
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on May 11, 2017 4:04:02 GMT
I really want to hear some Angaran songs. Also, I've noticed that this is the first time we've heard an alien language being given a name. The Quarians spoke a few phrases in their own language, but we were never told what their language is called. I want to hear the wedding songgggg
I also want to hear the individual angaran languages from the different planets, since Shelesh is a trade language/pidgin. We might actually hear them. Just not as languages, but as accents in the form of Havarl, Aya, Voeld accents. After all, the angara must have translator tech too. Otherwise they wouldn't be able to understand a damn thing we say. It might be that all angara speak Shelesh and their "home" language, like how IRL regions with tribal languages have most people speaking the national language and their own tribal language with equal fluency. But when the angara's "home" language gets translated to MW colonists, it manifests as a different accent of instead of its own language.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 4:04:33 GMT
I remember that from the sound files! Hmmm... Angara feel deeply Jaal said. Could have a double meaning or his electricity is still in her and maybe permanent? Also I fear their sex scene if I'm a biotic. I keep thinking we'll cause an explosion. He also gets itchy from Mass Effect fields it seems based on Cora's LM. My Ryder is a biotic. It's quite jarring and interesting when characters start talking about biotics and she never interjects. Meanwhile in DA your class is often referred to. During Cora's LM when she jumped up and helped with the biotic shield, my Ryder just sat there and let them do all the work. I was like; "You lazy bum, Sara." Haha I know right? I had Solas and Cole talk of my choice in DAI. I wanted that in MEA. Liam is all "Cora's a biotic?" and Cora gets snippy like she's the only one. I'm standing there and like I just used my own to take out that Anointed! I kept waiting for that! Like in Skyrim when we combine Shouts to defeat Alduin!
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Post by fadburger on May 11, 2017 4:07:10 GMT
I want to hear the wedding songgggg
I also want to hear the individual angaran languages from the different planets, since Shelesh is a trade language/pidgin. We might actually hear them. Just not as languages, but as accents in the form of Havarl, Aya, Voeld accents. After all, the angara must have translator tech too. Otherwise they wouldn't be able to understand a damn thing we say. It might be that all angara speak Shelesh and their "home" language, like how IRL regions with tribal languages have most people speaking the national language and their own tribal language with equal fluency. But when the angara's "home" language gets translated to MW colonists, it manifests as a different accent of instead of its own language. I was actually thinking the very same thing! haha But I do want to hear them like, actually speaking it as well without any translators.
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