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Post by kestrel on May 11, 2017 4:47:34 GMT
I could see Jaal getting along with Josephien super well, for some reason. They'd share their perfumes and various fineries and I feel like he's really admire the way she can get things done without ever needing to raise a weapon.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 4:48:02 GMT
Yeah that would be something I could see and since haha Viv and the Moshae are both the same voice actress, I bet he'd see her like one lol I totally forgot about that. That's quite the coincidence. Cora and Cassandra would have similar conversations, Varric and Liam would be funny together, and Vetra would sympathize with the Red Jennys and Sera me thinks. I also think Jaal and Cole would really hit it off. Both with the Empath abilities and being blunt with their feelings. Also when Jaal vanishes and reappears and stabs the enemy, that's Cole's move. kestrel haha and fashion with Leliana!
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Post by Obiwancomeblowme on May 11, 2017 4:49:16 GMT
I totally forgot about that. That's quite the coincidence. Cora and Cassandra would have similar conversations, Varric and Liam would be funny together, and Vetra would sympathize with the Red Jennys and Sera me thinks. I also think Jaal and Cole would really hit it off. Both with the Empath abilities and being blunt with their feelings. Also when Jaal vanishes and reappears and stabs the enemy, that's Cole's move. I feel terrible I forgot about Cole. Honestly, he hardly went out into the field with me in DA:I because I felt too bad for him and wanted to keep him safe. He stayed at the castle. I'm such a baby.
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Post by Obiwancomeblowme on May 11, 2017 4:49:53 GMT
Alright, all. I am going to go to bed. I hope you all have a good night and continue to be strong and clear, like Jaal would want.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2017 4:50:27 GMT
I also think Jaal and Cole would really hit it off. Both with the Empath abilities and being blunt with their feelings. Also when Jaal vanishes and reappears and stabs the enemy, that's Cole's move. I feel terrible I forgot about Cole. Honestly, he hardly went out into the field with me in DA:I because I felt too bad for him and wanted to keep him safe. He stayed at the castle. I'm such a baby. lol I took him everywhere because he always had something to say about the fetch quests where it made no sense otherwise. Like the body in the lake or the haunted Chateau.
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Post by Caythleen on May 11, 2017 6:28:08 GMT
I would like to say that I am loving the conversations we are having after this truce. This is how the thread should be, and I am so happy right now. This is very nice statment to read after waking up ) I really don't like when this topic goes too salty and on edge. *friendly hug* Also... Good morn... WTF??? Holy f.. father of all Angara! LadyC got more posts within 2 days than me in over a month!!! Lel
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Post by Gwyvian on May 11, 2017 6:41:57 GMT
Iiiiiis anyone still here?
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Post by Caythleen on May 11, 2017 6:43:00 GMT
Iiiiiis anyone still here? I am Like for 10 mins yet Then I have to go to work
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Post by Gwyvian on May 11, 2017 6:44:01 GMT
Iiiiiis anyone still here? I am Like for 10 mins yet Then I have to go to work Awww. Well, I've got this chapter, and...
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Post by Caythleen on May 11, 2017 6:45:42 GMT
I am Like for 10 mins yet Then I have to go to work Awww. Well, I've got this chapter, and... GIMME!!!!!!!!
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Post by Gwyvian on May 11, 2017 6:46:41 GMT
Awww. Well, I've got this chapter, and... GIMME!!!!!!!! Just give me a minute or two.
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Post by Caythleen on May 11, 2017 6:54:04 GMT
GIMME!!!!!!!! Just give me a minute or two. Damn! Have to go now! But will read it asap when I come home again! Laters
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on May 11, 2017 7:00:37 GMT
All I'm saying is DA4 better have some Dumbledore vs. Voldemort moments. I'm picturing something like this: Though I admit, I feel more sorry for Azula than I do for Solas at this point.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on May 11, 2017 7:09:37 GMT
Thank you my friend! I know I said I needed to go to bed but I had to sign in for this lolz.....but uhhhh you know to tag me for that Akksul fic right? Anyway back to bed, or late night reading.
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Post by ninaskye on May 11, 2017 7:15:05 GMT
I wonder what a conversation between Jaal and Fenris would be like?
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Post by Gwyvian on May 11, 2017 7:18:41 GMT
Thank you my friend! I know I said I needed to go to bed but I had to sign in for this lolz.....but uhhhh you know to tag me for that Akksul fic right? Anyway back to bed, or late night reading. My pleasure. Oh, yes, you and @lc are heading my list.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on May 11, 2017 7:45:42 GMT
Thank you my friend! I know I said I needed to go to bed but I had to sign in for this lolz.....but uhhhh you know to tag me for that Akksul fic right? Anyway back to bed, or late night reading. My pleasure. Oh, yes, you and @lc are heading my list. Gwyvian!!!!!! That ending, I'm sad and excited rolled into one. Annnnnnnnnnd this is me trying to be patient while the next chapter is cooking
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Post by Gwyvian on May 11, 2017 7:47:59 GMT
My pleasure. Oh, yes, you and @lc are heading my list. Gwyvian!!!!!! That ending, I'm sad and excited rolled into one. Annnnnnnnnnd this is me trying to be patient while the next chapter is cooking Awww, hehehehe. This is a very apt visual description!! Marvelous, exactly what I was aiming for.
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Post by Salty Drell on May 11, 2017 8:42:05 GMT
Drell here. Just dropping in, seeing how things are. Looks quite nice in here.
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Post by Gwyvian on May 11, 2017 9:02:27 GMT
That and Shelesh terms used within conversations that are otherwise heard by Ryder in English...like why do we hear "taoshay", "tavetaan", "rofjinn", "isharay", etc. in Shelesh? Especially something like "isharay" which has a direct translation to "goodbye" unlike the other ones which one could argue are more conceptual. I was JUST thinking about this earlier. Why do we hear the word Moshae instead of the translation? How does the translator work to know to translate sometimes but not tavetaan or isharay? I have the same problem in Star Trek, especially with the Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra episode because they're explaining things that aren't clicking with my basic mind. Hahaha Dragging up old posts, sorry guys -- I love that episode so much for the linguistic aspect. If there's one thing I missed in ST in general is more exploration of linguistics and other complex differences between species, and although as a linguist I had a few issues with the way it was presented, the idea of a universal translator failing because an entire language is spoken in metaphors is... amazing. I mean, the basic issue I had with it was that it didn't compute how complex, abstract thoughts could be conveyed using the same set of idiomatic expressions - you see several interactions, but there are only a bare handful of actual variables to work with. The second issue I had was the etymology... if you're using metaphors, then at some point you must have had a base language to compose a story, i.e. the metaphor does not exist without the definition of what you are referencing. Aaaand this is super OT and I don't want to derail the thread, just... I get excited by this stuff, just ignore me guys. *goes back to catching up* Also OT: dammit guys, now I'm pre-hyping for DA4 and there isn't even a glimmer of an announcement yet. *spirals into complex Tevinter theories*
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Post by Gwyvian on May 11, 2017 9:19:27 GMT
Hey sorry for a off topic but I want to ask your opinion about Jaal related matter in game. Some time ago Dana Duchy on Youtube posted a video compilation of all LI last talk before going to fight Archont. Video in spoiler When you fast forward to 3:53 into video we get Jaal conversation and Sara's answer "It's nice knowing you understand". Jaal Than says "Understand? I feel your every emotion as if it were my own". Do you think that he does because he knosw Sara so well or maybe Angara do form some sort of bond with their romantic partner/lover? Any thoughts? BONDING. YES. OK, I didn't really want to put a lot of emphasis on this concept because there's no canon for it, but I hard ship this concept, hence why I wove it into my story. I tried to sort of leave it as a subtle open-to-interpretation kind of thing because again, it's not a canon concept exactly, but I was thinking: 1. angarans are very big on emotions, it's almost like a physical expression it's so strong, 2. I can totally interpret bioelectricity as a conduit for telekinetic/rudimentary telepathic bonding (since we're in the Star Trek mood - I am, OK - like a primitive version of Vulcan telepathy and yes the Javik is strong in this one), 3. the suggestion of bonding for life is (again ST reference) very much like a rapport, i.e. you are "bonded" to that person through sharing emotion and/or frequent physical contact. My idea is that the more you have contact and open yourself emotionally (intentionally or not), the more you begin to "harmonize" or "resonate" - I've got iterations of this in my other stories, too, I just love the concept so much. (Once we're at it, The Wheel of Time's aes sedai/warder bonding has a special place in my heart for shipped story material. ) A big part of my take on this concept is also the fact that between a human and an angara, it's likely that because humans don't have the bioelectricity, they wouldn't be able to immediately bond, but it could maybe be induced by a gradual process of repeated exposure (I mean, we are conductive and possibly have a faint charge? I don't have the right kind of science background to confirm that, but from my layman's study this is suggested, can't recall any good sources). I know at this juncture it's quite tinfoil and space magic-y, but I still adore this concept, so... Dammit guys, I missed some really interesting comments here! Wake up, come back!! Sorry for the double post and increasingly frequent small-font subtext, it's not my fault!!
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Post by fadburger on May 11, 2017 9:46:46 GMT
I wonder what a conversation between Jaal and Fenris would be like? Well, it would certainly SOUND amazing.
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Post by fadburger on May 11, 2017 9:50:14 GMT
I was JUST thinking about this earlier. Why do we hear the word Moshae instead of the translation? How does the translator work to know to translate sometimes but not tavetaan or isharay? I have the same problem in Star Trek, especially with the Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra episode because they're explaining things that aren't clicking with my basic mind. Hahaha Dragging up old posts, sorry guys -- I love that episode so much for the linguistic aspect. If there's one thing I missed in ST in general is more exploration of linguistics and other complex differences between species, and although as a linguist I had a few issues with the way it was presented, the idea of a universal translator failing because an entire language is spoken in metaphors is... amazing. I mean, the basic issue I had with it was that it didn't compute how complex, abstract thoughts could be conveyed using the same set of idiomatic expressions - you see several interactions, but there are only a bare handful of actual variables to work with. The second issue I had was the etymology... if you're using metaphors, then at some point you must have had a base language to compose a story, i.e. the metaphor does not exist without the definition of what you are referencing. Aaaand this is super OT and I don't want to derail the thread, just... I get excited by this stuff, just ignore me guys. *goes back to catching up* Also OT: dammit guys, now I'm pre-hyping for DA4 and there isn't even a glimmer of an announcement yet. *spirals into complex Tevinter theories*That episode is super interesting, even though the issues are mind-bending haha. But then again that's Star Trek (at least TNG) for you isn't it xD
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Post by Gwyvian on May 11, 2017 10:38:59 GMT
Dragging up old posts, sorry guys -- I love that episode so much for the linguistic aspect. If there's one thing I missed in ST in general is more exploration of linguistics and other complex differences between species, and although as a linguist I had a few issues with the way it was presented, the idea of a universal translator failing because an entire language is spoken in metaphors is... amazing. I mean, the basic issue I had with it was that it didn't compute how complex, abstract thoughts could be conveyed using the same set of idiomatic expressions - you see several interactions, but there are only a bare handful of actual variables to work with. The second issue I had was the etymology... if you're using metaphors, then at some point you must have had a base language to compose a story, i.e. the metaphor does not exist without the definition of what you are referencing. Aaaand this is super OT and I don't want to derail the thread, just... I get excited by this stuff, just ignore me guys. *goes back to catching up* Also OT: dammit guys, now I'm pre-hyping for DA4 and there isn't even a glimmer of an announcement yet. *spirals into complex Tevinter theories*That episode is super interesting, even though the issues are mind-bending haha. But then again that's Star Trek (at least TNG) for you isn't it xD Ooh, yes indeed! I mean, I was raised to be a Trekkie, but even if I wasn't I would be drawn to it for the mind-bending stories.
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