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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 18:53:00 GMT
imo I would almost prefer if they made an ace romance either human/Asari/Angara, something you don't expect etc. because I wouldn't want them thinking or getting into a rut that the only ace romances they could do are Salraians, kind of like how they think Asari should always be bi right now. But I do have to admit Salarians would make a cute one, they're adorable. They did do one thing in MEA that I liked and wanted for so long! They gave me a LI that initiates the romance!
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Post by fadburger on May 16, 2017 18:55:43 GMT
imo I would almost prefer if they made an ace romance either human/Asari/Angara, something you don't expect etc. because I wouldn't want them thinking or getting into a rut that the only ace romances they could do are Salraians, kind of like how they think Asari should always be bi right now. But I do have to admit Salarians would make a cute one, they're adorable. I mean, it'd be ideal if their orientation/sexuality had nothing to do with their species but at least if it was a salarian they couldn't use their "it'd have to fit the character" excuse and people want a salarian LI anyway so two birds with one stone. It would also be nice if the "no sex" option like there is for Jaal could not be a "sex later"/" assumed sex" option and be truly ace.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on May 16, 2017 18:56:58 GMT
imo I would almost prefer if they made an ace romance either human/Asari/Angara, something you don't expect etc. because I wouldn't want them thinking or getting into a rut that the only ace romances they could do are Salraians, kind of like how they think Asari should always be bi right now. But I do have to admit Salarians would make a cute one, they're adorable. They did do one thing in MEA that I liked and wanted for so long! They gave me a LI that initiates the romance! Yeah that was one of the things I liked about Anders romance and I missed it. They need write more characters that initiate romance first, and forget the people who get mad about it. It's life, sometimes people will approach you whether you want it or not, it feels more real to me. They did it in a really clever way with Jaal. EDIT: I wrote cleaver instead of clever lolz wtf I need to pay attention more.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 18:58:24 GMT
They did do one thing in MEA that I liked and wanted for so long! They gave me a LI that initiates the romance! Yeah that was one of the things I liked about Anders romance and I missed it. They need write more characters that initiate romance first, and forget the people who get mad about it. It's life, sometimes people will approach you whether you want it or not, it feels more real to me. They did it in a really cleaver way with Jaal. I can't stand Anders, so I never got that lol well I liked him in DAA, but think it's because Greg was just so good voicing him! Adam's alright, but Greg just delivered the lines in a way that made him so charming!
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on May 16, 2017 19:03:12 GMT
imo I would almost prefer if they made an ace romance either human/Asari/Angara, something you don't expect etc. because I wouldn't want them thinking or getting into a rut that the only ace romances they could do are Salraians, kind of like how they think Asari should always be bi right now. But I do have to admit Salarians would make a cute one, they're adorable. I mean, it'd be ideal if their orientation/sexuality had nothing to do with their species but at least if it was a salarian they couldn't use their "it'd have to fit the character" excuse and people want a salarian LI anyway so two birds with one stone. It would also be nice if the "no sex" option like there is for Jaal could not be a "sex later"/" assumed sex" option and be truly ace. No I get that, I just really want them to start moving away from that excuse eventually, which is why I would prefer them to start with the unexpected. I wouldn't complain though since Salarians are probably my 3rd favorite alien race. As for the assumed sex email thing, I think it was sadly an oversight just like they forgot that Thane was a romance, (they seem to forget when something is not top priority) . I hope someone reported it to them so that they might fix it.
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Post by PenDev0us on May 16, 2017 19:03:31 GMT
You've gotta hand it to Bioware, they do make good men! Now if they'd give me a Salarian, I'd die happy!!! Like I've said in the past, they really do need to make a salarian romance...it'd be the perfect non-sexual one and they can't make any excuses... Hell I'd even take a "friends hanging out" time with Kallo if you don't romance anyone! (kinda like how you're given Javik in the Citadel DLC)
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Post by fadburger on May 16, 2017 19:04:29 GMT
They did do one thing in MEA that I liked and wanted for so long! They gave me a LI that initiates the romance! Yeah that was one of the things I liked about Anders romance and I missed it. They need write more characters that initiate romance first, and forget the people who get mad about it. It's life, sometimes people will approach you whether you want it or not, it feels more real to me. They did it in a really cleaver way with Jaal. I would have liked Anders/his hitting on Hawke a bit more if he said it differently/said something else...imo he came on a bit strong seemingly out of the blue.
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on May 16, 2017 19:04:31 GMT
After the Jardaan seeded life on those planets, those life forms still should've evolved and speciated more on their own. Unless....da da duuuuum...in addition to terraforming the planet, the vaults somehow suppress mutation and therefore natural selection? It's definitely a crackpot theory, but it does kinda make sense with the vault malfunction on Havarl. There, having an online but faulty vault caused the opposite effect: accelerated mutation. Maybe the Jardaan always intended to have their creations on a tighter biological leash. Maybe they assumed they'd always be around to sculpt life. The vaults do keep the planets atmosphere constant, so that would reduce the need for drastic evolution... hrrrmmmm... maybe the Jardaan are just really really into building Jurassic Park but with ice/desert/jungle themes~ New headcanon musical theme for the Jardaan is this:
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Post by kestrel on May 16, 2017 19:05:06 GMT
Tbh I've always pictured my Ryder as wanting to be a zoologist, and I feel like she would have been slightly disappointed by the offerings of the Andromeda galaxy thus far. I might have to make some things up for her in some future where she actually gets to sit down for a hot minute and just /observe/ because, engineered species or not, I feel like there must be something more that the game devs just didn't bother to show. Like, there is very clearly not a sustainable ecosystem as is.
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Post by fadburger on May 16, 2017 19:05:57 GMT
Like I've said in the past, they really do need to make a salarian romance...it'd be the perfect non-sexual one and they can't make any excuses... Hell I'd even take a "friends hanging out" time with Kallo if you don't romance anyone! (kinda like how you're given Javik in the Citadel DLC) A friendmance would be a fun concept, even for people uninterested in romance of any sort...you don't have to be in a relationship but you can get the character development and extra content somebody in a romance would get!
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 19:06:47 GMT
I wanted a friendmance with Dorian and Cole. My best bros!
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on May 16, 2017 19:07:09 GMT
Yeah that was one of the things I liked about Anders romance and I missed it. They need write more characters that initiate romance first, and forget the people who get mad about it. It's life, sometimes people will approach you whether you want it or not, it feels more real to me. They did it in a really cleaver way with Jaal. I can't stand Anders, so I never got that lol well I liked him in DAA, but think it's because Greg was just so good voicing him! Adam's alright, but Greg just delivered the lines in a way that made him so charming! I always preferred Fenris and Isa as Anders could be a little too intense for me at time, especially though whole I'd drown people in a river of blood to keep you safe (voice actor was lovely though). I just liked when Anders let you know he liked you, it's a shame Bioware stopped doing that with their characters, well until recently.
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on May 16, 2017 19:07:28 GMT
Yeah that was one of the things I liked about Anders romance and I missed it. They need write more characters that initiate romance first, and forget the people who get mad about it. It's life, sometimes people will approach you whether you want it or not, it feels more real to me. They did it in a really cleaver way with Jaal. I would have liked Anders/his hitting on Hawke a bit more if he said it differently/said something else...imo he came on a bit strong seemingly out of the blue. Generally speaking, I've felt that the recent NPC-initiated romance lines fit their characterization pretty well; Peebs is casual and blunt about it, Jaal is shy but earnest and sweet, Anders is nutbar, etc. The difference is that Anders, whether by intention or accident, kind of toes the line between "emotionally intense" and "OMG WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU"
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Post by PenDev0us on May 16, 2017 19:08:28 GMT
The vaults do keep the planets atmosphere constant, so that would reduce the need for drastic evolution... hrrrmmmm... maybe the Jardaan are just really really into building Jurassic Park but with ice/desert/jungle themes~ New headcanon musical theme for the Jardaan is this: HAHA!!! YESSSS!!!
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Post by fadburger on May 16, 2017 19:08:45 GMT
I mean, it'd be ideal if their orientation/sexuality had nothing to do with their species but at least if it was a salarian they couldn't use their "it'd have to fit the character" excuse and people want a salarian LI anyway so two birds with one stone. It would also be nice if the "no sex" option like there is for Jaal could not be a "sex later"/" assumed sex" option and be truly ace. No I get that, I just really want them to stop moving away from that excuse eventually, which is why I would prefer them to start with the unexpected. I wouldn't complain though since Salarians are probably my 3rd favorite alien race. As for the assumed sex email thing, I think it was sadly an oversight just like they forgot that Thane was a romance, (they seem to forget when something is not top priority) . I hope someone reported it to them so that they might fix it. Yeah I agree...people can't choose their orientation and it should feel organic in the same way for the LIs. Just like IRL you don't know the orientations of the people around you unless the divulge and you can't make assumptions either...it should be like that in the game as well. Also hopefully they would have more than one option than just having the token salarian there for that purpose which I think fixing the sex emails etc. would help with.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on May 16, 2017 19:09:56 GMT
Yeah that was one of the things I liked about Anders romance and I missed it. They need write more characters that initiate romance first, and forget the people who get mad about it. It's life, sometimes people will approach you whether you want it or not, it feels more real to me. They did it in a really cleaver way with Jaal. I would have liked Anders/his hitting on Hawke a bit more if he said it differently/said something else...imo he came on a bit strong seemingly out of the blue. Even though I turned Anders down most of the time, I sort of thought it fit his character because he can be pretty erratic. Especially since he seems to carry a torch for Hawke for years even if you don't romance him
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Post by PenDev0us on May 16, 2017 19:10:19 GMT
Hell I'd even take a "friends hanging out" time with Kallo if you don't romance anyone! (kinda like how you're given Javik in the Citadel DLC) A friendmance would be a fun concept, even for people uninterested in romance of any sort...you don't have to be in a relationship but you can get the character development and extra content somebody in a romance would get! Another vote for friendmance! Just a load of scenes where me and my Salarian bro wreak havoc! OH kinda like in DA:I where you goof around with Sera
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Post by fadburger on May 16, 2017 19:10:50 GMT
I would have liked Anders/his hitting on Hawke a bit more if he said it differently/said something else...imo he came on a bit strong seemingly out of the blue. Generally speaking, I've felt that the recent NPC-initiated romance lines fit their characterization pretty well; Peebs is casual and blunt about it, Jaal is shy but earnest and sweet, Anders is nutbar, etc. The difference is that Anders, whether by intention or accident, kind of toes the line between "emotionally intense" and "OMG WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU" Very true haha, I mean I also never really liked Anders' personality anyway (I never played Awakening either) so yeah I was probably destined to not enjoy his romance line lol
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on May 16, 2017 19:12:17 GMT
Yeah I agree...people can't choose their orientation and it should feel organic in the same way for the LIs. Just like IRL you don't know the orientations of the people around you unless the divulge and you can't make assumptions either...it should be like that in the game as well. Also hopefully they would have more than one option than just having the token salarian there for that purpose which I think fixing the sex emails etc. would help with. Personally, I think the easiest way to keep the romances organic without disappointing or queerbaiting folks is to release a full, not in-game list of all the LIs and their potential romantic interests (both PC and NPC) before the game ships, then let the game itself develop the romances less bluntly. That way, the information is out there, maybe on the BioWare blog, easily accessible. But the dialogue in game doesn't need to have giant declarations of "I'M GAY" or "I'M BI" in huge neon lights.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 19:12:34 GMT
I can't stand Anders, so I never got that lol well I liked him in DAA, but think it's because Greg was just so good voicing him! Adam's alright, but Greg just delivered the lines in a way that made him so charming! I always preferred Fenris and Isa as Anders could be a little too intense for me at time, especially though whole I'd drown people in a river of blood to keep you safe (voice actor was lovly though). I just liked when Anders let you know he liked you, it's a shame Bioware stopped doing that with their characters, well until recently. Yeah with Jaal it's so gentle and sweet, but hard if you have to reject him.
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Post by fadburger on May 16, 2017 19:13:06 GMT
I wanted a friendmance with Dorian and Cole. My best bros! Yessss! Dorian was always my Inquisitor's best friend That would have been awesome. I'm not sure I'll ever get to my male Inquisitor playthrough to romance him so that would have been a nice way to form a deeper bond while being a female Inquisitor.
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Post by PenDev0us on May 16, 2017 19:13:18 GMT
I wanted a friendmance with Dorian and Cole. My best bros! I flirted with Dorian even as femQuisitor knowing I'd get shot down... felt like we were always just teasing, never anything serious. I could then pretend we were more friends by personality, as opposed to friends by consequence.
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Post by fadburger on May 16, 2017 19:14:28 GMT
Yeah I agree...people can't choose their orientation and it should feel organic in the same way for the LIs. Just like IRL you don't know the orientations of the people around you unless the divulge and you can't make assumptions either...it should be like that in the game as well. Also hopefully they would have more than one option than just having the token salarian there for that purpose which I think fixing the sex emails etc. would help with. Personally, I think the easiest way to keep the romances organic without disappointing or queerbaiting folks is to release a full, not in-game list of all the LIs and their potential romantic interests (both PC and NPC) before the game ships, then let the game itself develop the romances less bluntly. That way, the information is out there, maybe on the BioWare blog, easily accessible. But the dialogue in game doesn't need to have giant declarations of "I'M GAY" or "I'M BI" in huge neon lights. Sweet mama yes, that would have helped so much this time. Or at least without the queerbaiting, minimum.
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on May 16, 2017 19:14:30 GMT
Generally speaking, I've felt that the recent NPC-initiated romance lines fit their characterization pretty well; Peebs is casual and blunt about it, Jaal is shy but earnest and sweet, Anders is nutbar, etc. The difference is that Anders, whether by intention or accident, kind of toes the line between "emotionally intense" and "OMG WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU" Very true haha, I mean I also never really liked Anders' personality anyway (I never played Awakening either) so yeah I was probably destined to not enjoy his romance line lol Anders is a much easier character to like in Awakening, but even then, there are hints of his later personality after he merges with Justice. Templars were a berserk button for him all along, he just did a better job of hiding it in Awakening. And then in DA2, of course, he's a very hard guy to like, romance or not
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