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Post by fadburger on May 16, 2017 19:39:13 GMT
Wait, you can sleep with Vega? Eek. He was my least favorite companion in ME3, easily- I hated how you couldn't tell him not to call you 'Lola' without being a total ass about it. The worst thing is that it comes off as Shepard being VERY creepy about it. Vega is uncomfortable about it the next morning and tells Shepard never to mention it again, hence it being an HR nightmare :X
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Post by PenDev0us on May 16, 2017 19:40:10 GMT
Adding to the list of more things I missed while playing! At least its all consensual flirting! HOORAY FOR DORIAN! Yeah I love doing that with Dorian, it makes it feel like they are really comfortable close friends Seriously though, I love Dorians character to bits, I used to romance Iron Bull, but moved onto Cullen just so Dorian has a guy to love! I'll just pretend that my femQuisitor is Dorians wingman~
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 16, 2017 19:40:39 GMT
Yeah, rape is funny. For all we know Shepard could have dragged poor Javik into her bed, no reason to assume anything. Did I as a player consent? No. Thus, it was rape of my character. You can try to excuse that abominable decision all you want, I will never see it as anything but.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 19:41:19 GMT
Not getting into this again, but there IS no rape in ME. It's a joke you would see in old sitcoms about drinking too much and waking up with someone you least expect. Kelly didn't count because of a bug or Javik would not end up with Shepard. He left me alone and I had lost Thane. Also you have to choose the heavy/drunken party, so if you choose a chill one he does not end up with Shepard, so a heavy drinking party is the PC's fault.
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Post by PenDev0us on May 16, 2017 19:41:55 GMT
Wait, you can sleep with Vega? Eek. He was my least favorite companion in ME3, easily- I hated how you couldn't tell him not to call you 'Lola' without being a total ass about it. The worst thing is that it comes off as Shepard being VERY creepy about it. Vega is uncomfortable about it the next morning and tells Shepard never to mention it again, hence it being an HR nightmare :X Shep always seemed to come off a bit predatory when it came to romance, I just recently rewatched the entire Garrus romance and yeesh if anyone tried that on me, I'd have run for the hills
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Post by fadburger on May 16, 2017 19:42:59 GMT
Yeah I love doing that with Dorian, it makes it feel like they are really comfortable close friends Seriously though, I love Dorians character to bits, I used to romance Iron Bull, but moved onto Cullen just so Dorian has a guy to love! I'll just pretend that my femQuisitor is Dorians wingman~ I romanced Bull the first time then went to Cullen next too, but not for that reason lol...I had originally wanted to romance Cullen as a fem!Qunari and I didn't realize racegating was a thing so I went with Bull, after that I played as Cullen-approved races. I did want to get Dorian and Bull to hook up, but I guess I didn't do enough wandering around in my second playthrough because nothing happened :/
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Post by PenDev0us on May 16, 2017 19:44:53 GMT
Not getting into this again, but there IS no rape in ME. It's a joke you would see in old sitcoms about drinking too much and waking up with someone you least expect. Kelly didn't count because of a bug or Javik would not end up with Shepard. He left me alone and I had lost Thane. Also you have to choose the heavy/drunken party, so if you choose a chill one he does not end up with Shepard, so a heavy drinking party is the PC's fault. Gotta admit, I was always surprised that Javik ended up with Shep if you chose to go heavy drinking, always seemed more appropriate for him to get it on with Liara~
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Post by fadburger on May 16, 2017 19:45:30 GMT
The worst thing is that it comes off as Shepard being VERY creepy about it. Vega is uncomfortable about it the next morning and tells Shepard never to mention it again, hence it being an HR nightmare :X Shep always seemed to come off a bit predatory when it came to romance, I just recently rewatched the entire Garrus romance and yeesh if anyone tried that on me, I'd have run for the hills I mean it comes off a bit strong but you could theoretically read the "reach and flexibility" talk as Garrus bringing it up and testing the waters, then being surprised that Shepard took the bait as the reason why he seems shocked she wants to try it with him. EDIT: To be clear I did think Shep seemed a bit predatory about it at first but after reading some metas I think it could go either way depending on interpretation.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 19:46:16 GMT
Not getting into this again, but there IS no rape in ME. It's a joke you would see in old sitcoms about drinking too much and waking up with someone you least expect. Kelly didn't count because of a bug or Javik would not end up with Shepard. He left me alone and I had lost Thane. Also you have to choose the heavy/drunken party, so if you choose a chill one he does not end up with Shepard, so a heavy drinking party is the PC's fault. Gotta admit, I was always surprised that Javik ended up with Shep if you chose to go heavy drinking, always seemed more appropriate for him to get it on with Liara~ I think they are a lot alike and I have a feeling there was also a small attraction there and the heavy drinking just brought it out, along with curiosity.
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Post by PenDev0us on May 16, 2017 19:48:12 GMT
Seriously though, I love Dorians character to bits, I used to romance Iron Bull, but moved onto Cullen just so Dorian has a guy to love! I'll just pretend that my femQuisitor is Dorians wingman~ I romanced Bull the first time then went to Cullen next too, but not for that reason lol...I had originally wanted to romance Cullen as a fem!Qunari and I didn't realize racegating was a thing so I went with Bull, after that I played as Cullen-approved races. I did want to get Dorian and Bull to hook up, but I guess I didn't do enough wandering around in my second playthrough because nothing happened :/ Ahhh they got together quite quickly for me, I only had a select few favourites when it came to squad goals: Iron Bull - Dorian - Cass (for the tanking/romance) Dorian - Viv - Solas (for the fashonista sass) Also good to note that an all mage party is a nightmare on nightmare :sob:
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Post by theratpack55 on May 16, 2017 19:49:43 GMT
Gotta admit, I was always surprised that Javik ended up with Shep if you chose to go heavy drinking, always seemed more appropriate for him to get it on with Liara~ I think they are a lot alike and I have a feeling there was also a small attraction there and the heavy drinking just brought it out, along with curiosity. I know there was more than a small attraction on my part... Mmm, Javik... He was the Jaal of ME3 for me, I brought him along everywhere lol
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 19:51:38 GMT
I think they are a lot alike and I have a feeling there was also a small attraction there and the heavy drinking just brought it out, along with curiosity. I know there was more than a small attraction on my part... Mmm, Javik... He was the Jaal of ME3 for me, I brought him along everywhere lol Haha Jaal is Javik's Paragon side. No wonder we love him! Also his trolling of PeeBee is like a callback to Javik and Liara.
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Post by fadburger on May 16, 2017 19:52:05 GMT
I romanced Bull the first time then went to Cullen next too, but not for that reason lol...I had originally wanted to romance Cullen as a fem!Qunari and I didn't realize racegating was a thing so I went with Bull, after that I played as Cullen-approved races. I did want to get Dorian and Bull to hook up, but I guess I didn't do enough wandering around in my second playthrough because nothing happened :/ Ahhh they got together quite quickly for me, I only had a select few favourites when it came to squad goals: Iron Bull - Dorian - Cass (for the tanking/romance) Dorian - Viv - Solas (for the fashonista sass) Also good to note that an all mage party is a nightmare on nightmare :sob: Bull/Dorian/Cass was my usual team I don't know why nothing happened between Bull and Dorian...maybe it was because of the banter bug? I never heard them talk to one another.
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Post by PenDev0us on May 16, 2017 19:52:55 GMT
Shep always seemed to come off a bit predatory when it came to romance, I just recently rewatched the entire Garrus romance and yeesh if anyone tried that on me, I'd have run for the hills I mean it comes off a bit strong but you could theoretically read the "reach and flexibility" talk as Garrus bringing it up and testing the waters, then being surprised that Shepard took the bait as the reason why he seems shocked she wants to try it with him. EDIT: To be clear I did think Shep seemed a bit predatory about it at first but after reading some metas I think it could go either way depending on interpretation. True, true, Garrus did effectively start it... Its more the 'liiittle longer than necessary' arm Shep puts on him when telling him its cool if he doesn't wanna... that weirded me out the most. I mean, its clear that the predatory-ness wasn't intended, and its mostly stuff that got lost in animation... who am I to bark at the how many seconds is OK to hug/touch before its weird rule, its all subjective in the end!
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 19:53:18 GMT
Ahhh they got together quite quickly for me, I only had a select few favourites when it came to squad goals: Iron Bull - Dorian - Cass (for the tanking/romance) Dorian - Viv - Solas (for the fashonista sass) Also good to note that an all mage party is a nightmare on nightmare :sob: Bull/Dorian/Cass was my usual team I don't know why nothing happened between Bull and Dorian...maybe it was because of the banter bug? I never heard them talk to one another. Never worked for me either and I tried to pair them up!
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Post by PenDev0us on May 16, 2017 19:53:31 GMT
I think they are a lot alike and I have a feeling there was also a small attraction there and the heavy drinking just brought it out, along with curiosity. I know there was more than a small attraction on my part... Mmm, Javik... He was the Jaal of ME3 for me, I brought him along everywhere lol I do have a weakness for trolls/sass mouths!
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Post by fadburger on May 16, 2017 19:53:59 GMT
I think they are a lot alike and I have a feeling there was also a small attraction there and the heavy drinking just brought it out, along with curiosity. I know there was more than a small attraction on my part... Mmm, Javik... He was the Jaal of ME3 for me, I brought him along everywhere lol I brought Javik along with me everywhere too, but mostly because he made me laugh or had interesting insight. Neither I nor my Shepard was interested in him in that way, but he is one of my favorite characters. His friend-date in the Citadel DLC is one of my favorite things ever, with the Blasto movie.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 19:55:25 GMT
I know there was more than a small attraction on my part... Mmm, Javik... He was the Jaal of ME3 for me, I brought him along everywhere lol I brought Javik along with me everywhere too, but mostly because he made me laugh or had interesting insight. Neither I nor my Shepard was interested in him in that way, but he is one of my favorite characters. His friend-date in the Citadel DLC is one of my favorite things ever, with the Blasto movie. Best part of that DLC!
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Post by PenDev0us on May 16, 2017 19:59:16 GMT
Ahhh they got together quite quickly for me, I only had a select few favourites when it came to squad goals: Iron Bull - Dorian - Cass (for the tanking/romance) Dorian - Viv - Solas (for the fashonista sass) Also good to note that an all mage party is a nightmare on nightmare :sob: Bull/Dorian/Cass was my usual team I don't know why nothing happened between Bull and Dorian...maybe it was because of the banter bug? I never heard them talk to one another. Must have been the banter bug, its the only thing that could stop them from getting together... my guys wouldn't shut up! I'm usually quite lucky when it comes to bugs, nothing really game breaking/immersion ruining happens to me... Except for that one Venatori that was in the Desert map... I lost him inside a rock and couldn't complete a quest because of it... Just kept hearing him chant as I ran around a load of boulders
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Post by PenDev0us on May 16, 2017 20:01:17 GMT
I know there was more than a small attraction on my part... Mmm, Javik... He was the Jaal of ME3 for me, I brought him along everywhere lol I brought Javik along with me everywhere too, but mostly because he made me laugh or had interesting insight. Neither I nor my Shepard was interested in him in that way, but he is one of my favorite characters. His friend-date in the Citadel DLC is one of my favorite things ever, with the Blasto movie. Man my fave Javik moment had to be when he sasses Liara for suggesting the Prothean tech responded to Shep, and not... ya know... the Prothean next to her!
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Post by PenDev0us on May 16, 2017 20:02:33 GMT
I brought Javik along with me everywhere too, but mostly because he made me laugh or had interesting insight. Neither I nor my Shepard was interested in him in that way, but he is one of my favorite characters. His friend-date in the Citadel DLC is one of my favorite things ever, with the Blasto movie. Best part of that DLC! Javik was about ready to airlock the entire Milky Way race after that movie! Vorcha actors though... :lmfao:
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 20:03:51 GMT
Javik was about ready to airlock the entire Milky Way race after that movie! Vorcha actors though... :lmfao: If you play as male Shepard, you get Mark Meer voicing him, the Vorcha and Blasto! :lmfao:
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Post by PenDev0us on May 16, 2017 20:09:55 GMT
Javik was about ready to airlock the entire Milky Way race after that movie! Vorcha actors though... :lmfao: If you play as male Shepard, you get Mark Meer voicing him, the Vorcha and Blasto! :lmfao: God I can just imagine all the credits at the end of Blasto just saying Mark Meer over and over again!
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Post by CrutchCricket on May 16, 2017 20:23:15 GMT
For all we know Shepard could have dragged poor Javik into her bed, no reason to assume anything. Did I as a player consent? No. Thus, it was rape of my character. You can try to excuse that abominable decision all you want, I will never see it as anything but. There's a lot of things you don't consent to as a player, particularly in ME3. No need to get carried away though. And I'm doubling that last as a general mod note too: I removed a post that bordered on a personal jab and contributed little to the discussion. Remember, attack the position/argument, never the person. Oh and in case it isn't clear: this mod note is not an endorsement or codemnation of any "side" in any argument here. I'd think that'd be obvious, but you never know...
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