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Post by theratpack55 on May 17, 2017 19:03:31 GMT
I have this weird thing where I actually feel more immersed when playing a protagonist of a particular gender in certain games. I've played Baldur's Gate, KOTOR and DAO as a female PC, but DA2 and DAI as guys. Also for some reason I always play Fallouts as dudes and TES games as ladies. I've yet to figure out what the pattern is and why, lol.
Oh, and I play evil whenever I can, but especially when playing a female character!
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Post by Gwyvian on May 17, 2017 19:04:10 GMT
I uh, actually do the same thing. I have at least 6 complete playthroughs of my fem!Shep who looks exactly the same, except for hair color maybe. I only changed it because I thought I was getting a little static, hahaha. My m!Shep actually went through a lot more transformations, though once I finally found one configuration I really liked I replayed that a handful of times with identical configurations/choices. Not so with DA, I mixed and matched all over the place there. In a game where I really care about how my worldstate turns out, I'll go back and replay with the same character to tweak my "canon." So far, that's only mattered for DA and ME, so they're the only franchises where I've replayed the same character over again. But I'll probably go back and replay Tyranny at some point. I've decided I much prefer the Neutral Evil path to the Lawful Evil one Witcher!! Yeah, other than that, DA and ME are the franchises I've replayed the most to chisel my canon and at least make an attempt to explore everything I didn't get a chance to before, including races/classes/choices. I think maybe ME3 is the only game where I've consistently replayed it over and over with the same configuration and not cared, sometimes I don't even do minor changes. It's like watching the most relaxing and heart-wrenching movie, so it has to be just so and no room for anything else. The most I've replayed in general is a different question, I'm not sure but I think probably DA (Origins/Inquisition) ties with NWN in that regard.
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Post by fadburger on May 17, 2017 19:04:31 GMT
ManHawke does seem awesome, although I wonder if that's because Hawke probably has the most developed character out of the Bioware protags? Especially snarky Hawke. Maybe my lack of ability to role play the PC rather than self-insert while playing is why it's so hard for me to play as the male option... I might be a minority here, but I really don't like Hawke as a character. Shepard? I loved for sheer badassery. Ryder? Snark and youth all the way. But Hawke and Inquisitor? I regret that they were ever voiced, but at least with Inquisitor I could make my character, and with Hawke I am stuck with someone I do not like, whose jokes fall flat to me and who fails at everything. I liked Hawke being awkward so it worked for me, but again I suck badly at RPing in video games so it helps me when they are an actual character lol. I had a hard time with the Inquisitor specifically because they were so blank. I literally will never choose a male protag if I can play a woman instead. I have to show my support for more female protagonists somehow. Maybe one day gaming companies will actually get the idea that making more women PCs is a thing they should do- and maybe they can actually incorporate romances into games with women PCs too. One day. One day. Thank goodness for games like Horizon showing how successful games can be when they have a female protagonist. I really didn't appreciate Bioware's treatment of Sara before launch tbh. Lady protagonists rock and a lot of guys think so too.I agree. I only do it if I really want to romance an LI unavailable to me. Usually my favorites... Like Cassandra and Morrigan. I don't really enjoy it while I am playing but for game lore it is kind of nice to have heros of different genders and orientations. I was surprised to see how many guys played as the female option in Mass Effect. ManHawke does seem awesome, although I wonder if that's because Hawke probably has the most developed character out of the Bioware protags? Especially snarky Hawke. Maybe my lack of ability to role play the PC rather than self-insert while playing is why it's so hard for me to play as the male option... Yeah there is also the novelty of actually being able to choose to be a woman for sure...I always say I'll create a male character to romance my favorite female characters who are gated but I just never do it...or even for mlm characters, like with DAI...I created a few male Inquisitors for that purpose but I never really got farther than that, and that's leagues farther than I got with anything else lol Yeah Tali is one of my very favorite characters, pretty much as soon as I got her it'd just be her and Garrus as my squadmates forever lol, my Dextro sandwich I love snarky Hawke. I literally fail at playing Hawke any other way. I agree about the Dextro sandwich, hahaha, ME 1 they ended up being my permanent squadmates, though I did make an effort to take Wrex and Liara with me here and there. ME2 and ME3 since I kept romancing both one of them was always with me, but there's just no way I can do any quest in ME3 and not take Javik, so I had to cycle between them.Sable Rhapsody I adore making perfect gentlemen male protags. I did take Javik with me a good deal in ME3 too, but for non-story missions etc. it was always Tali (Garrus was a true perma-squaddie lol) I mean that's always my plan...but then I always end up just reliving all my favorite things, unless I did some mistake the first playthrough or missed something (or in the case of MEA and DA2 choosing all the sarcastic/casual choices the second time around)...In MEA I couldn't even bring myself to use a different face preset ffs I uh, actually do the same thing. I have at least 6 complete playthroughs of my fem!Shep who looks exactly the same, except for hair color maybe. I only changed it because I thought I was getting a little static, hahaha. My m!Shep actually went through a lot more transformations, though once I finally found one configuration I really liked I replayed that a handful of times with identical configurations/choices. Not so with DA, I mixed and matched all over the place there. Yeah I pretty much just changed the hair and eye colors for my new Sara, as well as using different colors for her armor and clothing than I used the first time. Same here with DA though, I changed my Inquisitor a good deal...but then again that CC was fun to work with and there were different races to try out so maybe there was more fun/incentive.
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Post by yeah rip on May 17, 2017 19:21:17 GMT
oh you bring up a good point for me. I usually play a male character on a second go round and one thing that is easier for me to do with a male character is actual roleplay. I find I can make different choices, have a different personality and even be an evil asshole at times. However when I am playing a female character I have a harder time trying not to insert myself.....if that makes sense. Oh, that's interesting. I think I'm the opposite Whenever I "play evil," it's almost always with a female PC. IMO it's nice to kind of balance the scales a bit, since there are so few good female villains in video games. So if the game won't provide one as an NPC, I'll play one as the PC, at least as far as the game allows. The reverse is true for male PCs. There are plenty of male PC antiheroes, gruff snarkers, bad boys, etc. out there as canon PCs, so mine tend to be perfect gentlemen Especially Adam Jensen. Kind, compassionate, pacifist Jensen is probably one of my favorite PCs in anything. Ever *barges through the wall* Did someone say Adam Jensen? I have been summoned. I was pleasantly surprised by how good and pure Adam turned out to be. Of course, it depends on how you play him, but I just feel like the "paragon" way suits him more. And I just love how he used to be the captain of the debate team in high school, because of course he was. I mean that's always my plan...but then I always end up just reliving all my favorite things, unless I did some mistake the first playthrough or missed something (or in the case of MEA and DA2 choosing all the sarcastic/casual choices the second time around)...In MEA I couldn't even bring myself to use a different face preset ffs I uh, actually do the same thing. I have at least 6 complete playthroughs of my fem!Shep who looks exactly the same, except for hair color maybe. I only changed it because I thought I was getting a little static, hahaha. My m!Shep actually went through a lot more transformations, though once I finally found one configuration I really liked I replayed that a handful of times with identical configurations/choices. Not so with DA, I mixed and matched all over the place there. That's me in every RPG with CC, ever. Especially in MET. me, about to replay ME1+2 for the tenth time with the same femshep: "I'm sick of this look. I'm giving her a whole new face this time." *increases lip fullness by 1 point* " Perfect"
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Post by zambixi on May 17, 2017 19:27:10 GMT
Arguments and reconciliations in addition to the one where the mods got involved or....? Scratch that, I don't want to know.
But the fics TT-TT I will have to dig through my tags to find them later tonight. I don't know why I didn't download the fics so I could peruse them while I was cooped up in a sedan for seven hours TT-TT (probably because explaining what I was reading would have been...difficult).
On the topic of PC genders: I pretty much always play a woman. I have one male character for Dorian and that's it. I know Bioware tracks that sort of stuff and I want to add as many ladies to their statistics as possible. I find it more fun anyway. I also like - in literature more so than video games - that stories with women-characters often address that character's experiences as a woman, specifically. Or they take more time to examine the relationships between that character and others, etc. Not everyone likes that, but I do. There is media that examines the unique experiences of men but it's sort of few and far between, a lot of stuff that has a male protag just leaves the poor dudebro as like, a placeholder.... On the topic of astrology & tarot: I know... basically nothing about this but it's so fascinating! Teach me your ways! I bought the Dragon Age tarot cards and have never used them because I have no idea what I'm doing xD. I just know my various signs (Aquarius/Horse), and that the Tower is a card you don't want to get in tarot readings (because Solas). Also, my potential-future-mother-in-law told me she'd take me to her fortune-teller when we visit in Taiwan and I've never been more excited for anything in my life (only a slight exaggeration). Oh, I could talk your ear off about that subject. I suppose the best way to share is to offer interpretations? I mean, each card can be interpreted differently depending on the reading, so there are many ways to approach getting a card like e.g. the Tower; it's generally a card of great conflict, but it also signifies great transformation, which can be a good thing of course, if turbulent. As for astrology, I know a lot about the theory, some about the practice and otherwise I pester my dad for answers about everything because I'm not that good. Is there a good book or reference to start off with? I mean, I'd love to have you tutor me on readings every time I wanna do one but I suspect you have more valuable things to do with your time and energy I uh, actually do the same thing. I have at least 6 complete playthroughs of my fem!Shep who looks exactly the same, except for hair color maybe. I only changed it because I thought I was getting a little static, hahaha. My m!Shep actually went through a lot more transformations, though once I finally found one configuration I really liked I replayed that a handful of times with identical configurations/choices. Not so with DA, I mixed and matched all over the place there. Yeah I pretty much just changed the hair and eye colors for my new Sara, as well as using different colors for her armor and clothing than I used the first time. Same here with DA though, I changed my Inquisitor a good deal...but then again that CC was fun to work with and there were different races to try out so maybe there was more fun/incentive. I have to make a conscious effort to force diversity in my PCs across PTs. I choose what I want their appearance to be first, and then the differences in their personalities and how I RP them follows. Though, I'll also usually do 3-4 PTs with the same PC too, to refine my canon!
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Post by kestrel on May 17, 2017 19:27:26 GMT
I'm actually doing my first ever run through of the OT with Kaidan. I've never done it before, and it felt SO weird to choose him over Ashley. We'll see if he lives up to the hype.
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2017 19:29:29 GMT
And now I've stumbled on something worse than Sara/Scott fics Alec/Scott fic Pass the brain bleach, please Gross. I have also seen Scott/Alec fics. No thanks. Also Sam/Sara but I am trash and liked that one.
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on May 17, 2017 19:37:55 GMT
I'm actually doing my first ever run through of the OT with Kaidan. I've never done it before, and it felt SO weird to choose him over Ashley. We'll see if he lives up to the hype. I love Kaidan But I think he's a character who is really dependent on the PC to offer some resistance, at least at first. Like Sten (ironically enough), Kaidan shows more personality if you argue and stand your ground rather than agree. With Paragon Shepard, he kinda just follows along, and doesn't really seem to grow into his own until ME3. With a Renegade Shepard, he actually pushes back and shows spine in ME1.
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Post by zambixi on May 17, 2017 19:38:03 GMT
And now I've stumbled on something worse than Sara/Scott fics Alec/Scott fic Pass the brain bleach, please Gross. I have also seen Scott/Alec fics. No thanks. Also Sam/Sara but I am trash and liked that one. I don't know why the prevalence of people with an incest fetish continues to surprise me, but it does. Though, I'm down with SAM/Sara, too so maybe I shouldn't talk. It's in the same vein as the Skyhold/Lavellan trashfic, which I loved: Fine as long as I don't think about it too deeply.
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on May 17, 2017 19:55:38 GMT
*barges through the wall* Did someone say Adam Jensen? I have been summoned. I was pleasantly surprised by how good and pure Adam turned out to be. Of course, it depends on how you play him, but I just feel like the "paragon" way suits him more. And I just love how he used to be the captain of the debate team in high school, because of course he was. He is a perfect pure nerdy cinnamon roll, and too good for this sinful earth. Thanks Square Enix I love how despite playing directly into a lot of the popular antihero stereotypes (gravely voice, tragic origin story, morally grey setting, ALL THE SNARK), Jensen can be played as a straight-up hero. And like you said, he shines in that role. For a guy who's more metal than flesh, he has a lot more humanity than most video game PCs.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 17, 2017 20:05:11 GMT
*barges through the wall* Did someone say Adam Jensen? I have been summoned. I was pleasantly surprised by how good and pure Adam turned out to be. Of course, it depends on how you play him, but I just feel like the "paragon" way suits him more. And I just love how he used to be the captain of the debate team in high school, because of course he was. He is a perfect pure nerdy cinnamon roll, and too good for this sinful earth. Thanks Square Enix I love how despite playing directly into a lot of the popular antihero stereotypes (gravely voice, tragic origin story, morally grey setting, ALL THE SNARK), Jensen can be played as a straight-up hero. And like you said, he shines in that role. For a guy who's more metal than flesh, he has a lot more humanity than most video game PCs. Yeah I was pleasantly surprised that they did that with Adam Jenson despite how the cards were dealt. Part of it I think is because of others cards he had been dealt like the people he had around him, specifically Faridah Malik and Francis Pritchard. Characters like those two are always my favorite in morally grey settings since they are the 'light in the darkness' characters and I think the only two people Adam can truly genuinely trust after everything that has happened and were anchors to keep him from falling. There are others as well like Eliza and some people at Task Force 29 but those two stand apart.
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Post by yeah rip on May 17, 2017 20:16:44 GMT
I'm off to bed now but Pritchard and his bromance with Jensen have a special place in my heart. I miss him and Malik. Good thing she's canonically alive. However the hell.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on May 17, 2017 20:38:41 GMT
I barely post in BSN anymore, but I want to know about your little princess Obliviousmiss I hope she's doing well and being a grumpy baby like well every baby on this planet XD
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Post by Eyanril on May 17, 2017 21:11:15 GMT
My husband is one of those guys who prefers to play as a female protagonist. 99% of his Hawkes, Inquisitors and Shepards are female. He did play Andromeda as Scott first, but he's already got a new playthrough going as Sara. He says for him it's mostly to do with the voice actor. He can't stand Male Shepard, haha, while he loves Jennifer Hale's performance...same with Male Hawke vs. Female Hawke (especially sarcastic FemHawke). He was happier with Scott's voice and one of the male Inquisitors (I forget which).
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Post by fadburger on May 17, 2017 21:14:33 GMT
Looks like tomorrow we are getting a tiny fix so we can get the Nomad skins and the casual outfit in the middle of the game.
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Post by PenDev0us on May 17, 2017 21:24:28 GMT
Gahh I'm so BOREDKilling time in ME:A's character creator... I never really explored outside my main Ryder (my profile pic) and so I challenged myself by making a face for each of the head presets. Some of these faces are a freaking nightmare to get nice... also hairstyle 1's 0's colour pallets can suck it. :rage:
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on May 17, 2017 21:29:22 GMT
My husband is one of those guys who prefers to play as a female protagonist. 99% of his Hawkes, Inquisitors and Shepards are female. He did play Andromeda as Scott first, but he's already got a new playthrough going as Sara. He says for him it's mostly to do with the voice actor. He can't stand Male Shepard, haha, while he loves Jennifer Hale's performance...same with Male Hawke vs. Female Hawke (especially sarcastic FemHawke). He was happier with Scott's voice and one of the male Inquisitors (I forget which). I have yet to play as a guy. I just feel more comfortable playing as a chick, but I feel like I am definitely missing out on some good romances by not trying at least. Funny, I really don't care for Tali (maybe it's precisely because I've never romanced her, but I find her a bit...boring), but Jack intrigues me...especially her return in ME3 (although I know you don't get much from her in ME3 in terms of romance content). Also Cassandra...and Dorian! My fiance's the same way. In tabletop games too. He says he likes playing badass ladies. If the character also happens to be attractive, that's sort of the icing on the cake, but it's not the main draw.
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Post by brandoftime on May 17, 2017 21:31:36 GMT
Gahh I'm so BOREDKilling time in ME:A's character creator... I never really explored outside my main Ryder (my profile pic) and so I challenged myself by making a face for each of the head presets. Some of these faces are a freaking nightmare to get nice... also hairstyle 1's colour pallets can suck it. :rage: Yeah, that feeling when I realized that after 6 Bioware games and making my characters that this thing might actually make me cry - I almost went with default Sara which I really didn't want, but ended up with preset 9 more or less how lady c did hers. So, it was a choice between a total disaster and Sara #99999. Oh well, here's to hoping they let us switch eyebrows at least.
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Post by PenDev0us on May 17, 2017 21:42:30 GMT
Gahh I'm so BOREDKilling time in ME:A's character creator... I never really explored outside my main Ryder (my profile pic) and so I challenged myself by making a face for each of the head presets. Some of these faces are a freaking nightmare to get nice... also hairstyle 1's colour pallets can suck it. :rage: Yeah, that feeling when I realized that after 6 Bioware games and making my characters that this thing might actually make me cry - I almost went with default Sara which I really didn't want, but ended up with preset 9 more or less how lady c did hers. So, it was a choice between a total disaster and Sara #99999. Oh well, here's to hoping they let us switch eyebrows at least.YES BIOWARE PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING HOLY LET US CHANGE EYEBROWS As far as presets go, I've got Presets 1,8,9 down... doubt I'll ever use them except for 1 as she's my main... but, if I ever decide to go renegade (or at least, as renegade as this game allows) Preset 8 has me hooked... IDK how, but I wound up making her look like the type that has a calm shell, but is very angry and vengeful towards even minor slights At least I found my 'Renegade Babe'!
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Post by PenDev0us on May 17, 2017 21:44:00 GMT
YAAAY!!!! something to break the boredom!
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Post by PenDev0us on May 17, 2017 21:46:16 GMT
Head 7 is annoying the crap out of me... she just looks so TIRED. like she spent the 600 years travel awake or something!
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Post by fadburger on May 17, 2017 21:51:23 GMT
That's a damn good cup of fanfic.
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Post by beholderess on May 18, 2017 0:09:37 GMT
RE: preferred PC genders I am kind of all over the place. Thing is, I have certain character archetypes that I more or less recycle from game to game. Some of them happen to be male, some of them happen to be female, and which one ends up as "canon" depends on which archetype meshes better with the game story, in my opinion. By default I usually start with female. Generally, my female archetypes tend to be the "fire", while my male ones tend to be the "ice". My girls usually focus on offense and are best at thinking at their feet, while my boys tend to be focused on defense and are deliberate. Here's what has been my canon in some of the RPGs I've played: Baldur's Gate: - Female Chaotic Neutral swashbuckling rogue TES series: Female thief and archer (actually the same one through the whole series - Imperial and Imperial-loyal spy named Felicia Alba. I don't even remember why). She is also one of the few of my female characters who is more "ice" than "fire". Jade Empire: Female, no romance because the only character I wanted to romance gets killed off NWN2: Male tiefling warlock named after Reynard the Fox, deceiver, snarker and trickster MET: Male, pure Paragon Vanguard Shepard (romanced Ashley) - knight in shining armor, always calm, and implacable. DAO: Male elf mage, sly and persuasive, a Merlin to Alistair's King Arthur. Romanced Morrigan, and, basically, this character was created to be the kind of person who would happily romance Morrigan, because that, I thought, would make the happiest and most sensible ending. Shadowrun: Male elf mage, based on the above DA2: I don't have a canon Hawke because Hawke is a loser who sucks If I had to have one, it would be my "fire" female mage in rivalmance with Fenris, because this city deserves to burn DAI: Can't chose between two versions, both are female and both make a good story. One is a very Andrastean human mage named Joan, for obvious reasons. Come on, we have a fantasy counterpart of France and a leader figure allegedly chosen by divinity - of course there has to be Joan. Romanced Cullen, because it is his fate to marry a female mage. He cannot avoid it The other one is a female Qunari mage, my typical "fire" girl - master of desttructive magic, with temper to match. Romanced Josephine, because Qunari and Josephine are the Beauty and the Beast MEA: Sara, Sara, Sara.
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Post by janalilith on May 18, 2017 0:11:42 GMT
This is really great. You make sound arguments for all of these. Now, if only we could have a lovely artist design all of these lovely cards. I love tarot decks. I have about 4 different ones. I keep seeming to collect them. >.> Thank you Which ones do you have? I only have one, and it features cats One is the unicorns deck. I'll have to look for the other 2. There's one set that is just images that inspire you. I'll have to look it up to post a link here - beautiful cards.
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