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Post by Beany on May 19, 2017 13:32:36 GMT
So... exalted Krogan number 4 just came at me and look who saved my life! Who's that? The angara from Havarl?
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Post by yeah rip on May 19, 2017 13:39:04 GMT
So... exalted Krogan number 4 just came at me and look who saved my life! Who's that? The angara from Havarl? Our boi Evfra!
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Post by Davrin's boobs on May 19, 2017 14:00:41 GMT
Man, this next patch needed to be released already before I can do another PT. I'm thinking of romancing Jaal again ... and try to keep things ... not overwhelming haha. Try to avoid Sara's creepy lines, but I'm not sure how ;o; I'm a nub I want to romance Jaal as well Jewlie but fate doesnt love me :rage:
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Post by JewlieGhoulie on May 19, 2017 14:12:09 GMT
Man, this next patch needed to be released already before I can do another PT. I'm thinking of romancing Jaal again ... and try to keep things ... not overwhelming haha. Try to avoid Sara's creepy lines, but I'm not sure how ;o; I'm a nub I want to romance Jaal as well Jewlie but fate doesnt love me :rage: I'm still working on selling my soul to Satan for bi Jaal. Will get back to u on progress
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Post by Davrin's boobs on May 19, 2017 14:17:32 GMT
I want to romance Jaal as well Jewlie but fate doesnt love me :rage: I'm still working on selling my soul to Satan for bi Jaal. Will get back to u on progress That would be awesome 'cause Jaal friendship with Scott yells gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay homoerotism is strong with this one I appreciate your effort you're too sweet :sob:
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Post by brandoftime on May 19, 2017 15:08:20 GMT
It's my birthday today (mentioning it for no big reason other than attention-seeking ), but my rl had been so stressful for the past month or so that I'm just like... what birthday..? Whose..? What for..? I always knew sulphur stunk of rotten eggs, but somehow it hadn't occured to me until recently that this is probably how Kadara smells too :poop: The exiles must be really desperate. Oh well, they can enjoy their rotten eggs while the loyalists suffer under the oppressive clean air of Nexus Though to be fair, it was said somewhere in the OT that the Citadel smelled of oil and metal or something, so that's probably the case for Nexus too. Happy birthday!
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Post by JewlieGhoulie on May 19, 2017 15:45:33 GMT
Here's a rundown of more Jaal-related stuff I found the past few days (as promised)! Out of all of the squad and crew you literally see Jaal change by the end of the game. Patch 1.06 has him grinning like an idiot during the epilogue lol (when talking about his future with Sara, he is beaming!) and on Aya and the Tempest he is laughing and so happy! Also if you talk to him again on Meridian before you leave, he asks if we are going or staying, then says he'll do whatever I want. The sex scene also has him smiling more when he talks to Sara about her beauty and the sex itself has improved animations. The first kiss scene is not botched with a CC Sara either. Just don't use default Sara. I learned that near death Jaal will either shout he wants to help you or says "Stars!" and it's the only time he'll say that famous Angara exclamation. If you create a combo yourself, he says he wants to learn to do that. If you create a combo with him, he gets excited and comments on loving the explosion. Jaal's banter with our squadmates will change depending on choices you made. For example, Jaal asks why Drack was still with us after we let his scouts die. Both Reyes and Vetra can still be flirted with even if you are committed to Jaal. Everyone else will back off. Even PeeBee did not proposition me, but simply thanked me for joining her in the zero gravity cutscene. Jaal either has the best timing or it's a scripted line that always happens, but if you run past him really fast on Aya, he points out you need to slow down. This reminds me if you cut off Blackwall mid-convo and start running. He comments on you running off again. Jaal yelled (really loudly) at me on Meridian when he feared I was going to use the interfaces without SAM. If you take a slower pace to the final fight you get more banter with your squad. In the ancient city, Jaal comments on a tree that looks like the ones grown on Aya and wonders if it's a template like his people. This hints Aya was constructed by the Jaardan. If you take Liam during that part, he tells Liam he's a good friend (for me that was the conclusion of their growing friendship that I watched progress throughout the game). When you check on him after the discovery, his facial animations are again amazing after patch 1.06 and his emotions are on display for all to see, especially when he tells Sara she makes him feel safe. So since patch 1.06, in cutscenes you'll see a very emotional Jaal now, especially if you romance him. He smiles at you a lot! Damn, you gave Jaal his own patch notes, my guy. 👀
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Post by PenDev0us on May 19, 2017 15:52:08 GMT
How I'm picturing the Jardaan:
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Post by lilyenachaos on May 19, 2017 16:02:08 GMT
Happy Birthday yeah rip! My first game I saved Raeka, because it seemed obvious the salarian pathfinder + some salarians > a few random krogan scouts we've never met. Other than Drack being really ticked, and having to fight the exalted Krogan, it seemed like the right choice. This time around I saved the Krogan, and it just makes everything smoother. There is no anger from any direction over letting Raeka die, and no behemoths to fight. Win/win. I still wonder if any of these choices are going to have consequences down the line, like the Sloane/Reyes or Raeka/scouts ones. They really didn't have much of an impact on the game as it is now.
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Post by lilyenachaos on May 19, 2017 16:09:12 GMT
Happy Birthday yeah rip ! My first game I saved Raeka, because it seemed obvious the salarian pathfinder + some salarians > a few random krogan scouts we've never met. Other than Drack being really ticked, and having to fight the exalted Krogan, it seemed like the right choice. This time around I saved the Krogan, and it just makes everything smoother. There is no anger from any direction over letting Raeka die, and no behemoths to fight. Win/win. I still wonder if any of these choices are going to have consequences down the line, like the Sloane/Reyes or Raeka/scouts ones. They really didn't have much of an impact on the game as it is now. On my first playthrough I saved the Krogan, but this time I felt a Pathfinder was more important than a few scouts, plus I heard a bug where the exalted Krogan never show, so I decided to test it, and lucky me, there were all 5 waiting to be killed! I have to say though, Drack holds a bigger grudge than Jaal if you upset him. He does, and it's nice that he and Kesh acknowledge that for once someone chose Krogan over another of the Milky Way species, but I still don't see why I am really supposed to care about that decision. If I were making my Ryders use common sense it would be the pathfinder every single time, because hello, she's the only original one left. I've never ticked Jaal off, because I always save the angara at the facility. No grudges! I might destroy it in a game where I don't romance him though.
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Post by kestrel on May 19, 2017 16:16:45 GMT
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Post by yeah rip on May 19, 2017 16:31:26 GMT
Another sad cat update. Warning: it's sad. Sorry for getting OT. Well, today also happens to be the day when we finally put our sick cat to sleep. Our vet gave her an extra shot yesterday and said that if she gets better after that, then she will live for some more time, but if not, then there's no point in delaying the euthanasia because she is only going to suffer longer. She didn't get better immediately. We wanted to give her a week to see how she would be doing, but she got worse today - she got a wrong-looking tilt to her head, vomited out all the food she had recently eaten, started stumbling while walking and her legs got a little shaky. As hard as it was to put her to sleep on my birthday, it was ultimately a good thing. It would wreck me to keep seeing her like this for any longer. I think we've already waited too long and she got from "not that terrible" to the "suffering" point - this is the only thing I regret about this whole thing. I told myself that I won't make her suffer by waiting too long and I failed. But she's resting in the Kitty Heaven now and doesn't feel painful or confused or unsafe anymore. She was a sweet and hilarious cat, and a little shit until the very end. A picspam from when she was still healthy because it's my birthday and I do what I want. I'm camera-shy and she took after me, so naturally, whenever I properly got her face on the pictures, she looked like she would slit my throat in my sleep. Sorry about my face getting on the picture The floofy derp is her Sister from another Mister (and another mother). They didn't like each other much so them lying so close to each other was wow, huge.
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Post by yeah rip on May 19, 2017 16:39:54 GMT
Another sad cat update. Warning: it's sad. Sorry for being OT. Well, today also happens to be the day when we finally put our sick cat to sleep. Our vet gave her an extra shot yesterday and said that if she gets better after that, then she will live for some more time, but if not, then there's no point in delaying the euthanasia because she is only going to suffer longer. She didn't get better immediately. We wanted to give her a week to see how she would be doing, but she got worse today - she got a wrong-looking tilt to her head, vomited out all the food she had recently eaten, started stumbling while walking and her legs got a little shaky. As hard as it was to put her to sleep on my birthday, it was ultimately a good thing. It would wreck me to keep seeing her like this for any longer. I think we've already waited too long and she got from "not that terrible" to the "suffering" point - this is the only thing I regret about this whole thing. I told myself that I won't let make suffer and I failed. But she's resting in the Kitty Heaven now and doesn't feel painful or confused or unsafe anymore. She was a sweet and hilarious cat, and a little shit until the very end. A picspam from when she was still healthy because it's my birthday and I do what I want. I'm camera-shy and she took after me, so naturally, whenever I properly got her face on the pictures, she looked like she would slit my throat in my sleep. The floofy derp is her Sister from another Mister (and another mother). They didn't like each other much so I them lying so close to each other was wow, huge. I'm so sorry. Ah... I'm crying... I had a similar situation recently. Know that she lived a long and happy life and she's no longer in any pain, and know that she loved you. Ahh, sorry for being a party pooper! I'll probably take it off later. Just had to vent a little. Thank you for your words. It's sad, but it was a good thing. She went out doing what she liked the most - napping.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on May 19, 2017 16:57:52 GMT
Another sad cat update. Warning: it's sad. Sorry for getting OT. Well, today also happens to be the day when we finally put our sick cat to sleep. Our vet gave her an extra shot yesterday and said that if she gets better after that, then she will live for some more time, but if not, then there's no point in delaying the euthanasia because she is only going to suffer longer. She didn't get better immediately. We wanted to give her a week to see how she would be doing, but she got worse today - she got a wrong-looking tilt to her head, vomited out all the food she had recently eaten, started stumbling while walking and her legs got a little shaky. As hard as it was to put her to sleep on my birthday, it was ultimately a good thing. It would wreck me to keep seeing her like this for any longer. I think we've already waited too long and she got from "not that terrible" to the "suffering" point - this is the only thing I regret about this whole thing. I told myself that I won't make suffer by waiting too long and I failed. But she's resting in the Kitty Heaven now and doesn't feel painful or confused or unsafe anymore. She was a sweet and hilarious cat, and a little shit until the very end. A picspam from when she was still healthy because it's my birthday and I do what I want. I'm camera-shy and she took after me, so naturally, whenever I properly got her face on the pictures, she looked like she would slit my throat in my sleep. Sorry about my face getting on the picture The floofy derp is her Sister from another Mister (and another mother). They didn't like each other much so them lying so close to each other was wow, huge. She is very beautiful and I'm sorry for your loss and I don't think you failed either, every decision you made for her was out of love. Thank you for sharing these beautiful pictures. EDIT: And I'm sorry I didn't see the post saying it was your birthday. Happy birthday and try to think of all the good memories.
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Post by fadburger on May 19, 2017 17:30:40 GMT
I literally JUST realized that Kadara smells like rotten egg farts... :poop: I would ask to go back to the ship too... Didn't someone mention that Kadara is a shithole? Guess the analogy was meant for more than just the inhabitants! :poop: Haha yeah, I just didn't think of it as resembling a shithole in scent too lol It's my birthday today (mentioning it for no big reason other than attention-seeking ), but my rl had been so stressful for the past month or so that I'm just like... what birthday..? Whose..? What for..? I always knew sulphur stunk of rotten eggs, but somehow it hadn't occured to me until recently that this is probably how Kadara smells too :poop: The exiles must be really desperate. Oh well, they can enjoy their rotten eggs while the loyalists suffer under the oppressive clean air of Nexus Though to be fair, it was said somewhere in the OT that the Citadel smelled of oil and metal or something, so that's probably the case for Nexus too. Yeah I just didn't put 2 and 2 together, all I really thought about the sulfur was like "don't go in the water" up until I realized lol. PS. Happy Birthday Man, this next patch needed to be released already before I can do another PT. I'm thinking of romancing Jaal again ... and try to keep things ... not overwhelming haha. Try to avoid Sara's creepy lines, but I'm not sure how ;o; I'm a nub Yeah I meant to go through this playthrough slow and not use too many flirts and then before I knew it I was already at his LM and I haven't even gotten all that far in the story yet :D8:
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Post by PenDev0us on May 19, 2017 17:38:30 GMT
Another sad cat update. Warning: it's sad. Sorry for getting OT. Well, today also happens to be the day when we finally put our sick cat to sleep. Our vet gave her an extra shot yesterday and said that if she gets better after that, then she will live for some more time, but if not, then there's no point in delaying the euthanasia because she is only going to suffer longer. She didn't get better immediately. We wanted to give her a week to see how she would be doing, but she got worse today - she got a wrong-looking tilt to her head, vomited out all the food she had recently eaten, started stumbling while walking and her legs got a little shaky. As hard as it was to put her to sleep on my birthday, it was ultimately a good thing. It would wreck me to keep seeing her like this for any longer. I think we've already waited too long and she got from "not that terrible" to the "suffering" point - this is the only thing I regret about this whole thing. I told myself that I won't make her suffer by waiting too long and I failed. But she's resting in the Kitty Heaven now and doesn't feel painful or confused or unsafe anymore. She was a sweet and hilarious cat, and a little shit until the very end. A picspam from when she was still healthy because it's my birthday and I do what I want. I'm camera-shy and she took after me, so naturally, whenever I properly got her face on the pictures, she looked like she would slit my throat in my sleep. Sorry about my face getting on the picture The floofy derp is her Sister from another Mister (and another mother). They didn't like each other much so them lying so close to each other was wow, huge. :sob: My condolences, as a pet person myself I know first-hand how it feels to make the decision to let go. I'm not that good at vocalising support etc. (I always come across too blunt for my liking) but take comfort in the fact that she is at peace now, and is no longer suffering. You did everything humanly possible while she was sick, and I'm sure she knew it. Fuck I'm crying now. Gunna bounce for a bit, maybe sit in the garden for a while and get some fresh air.
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Post by theratpack55 on May 19, 2017 17:41:42 GMT
Another sad cat update. Warning: it's sad. Sorry for getting OT. Well, today also happens to be the day when we finally put our sick cat to sleep. Our vet gave her an extra shot yesterday and said that if she gets better after that, then she will live for some more time, but if not, then there's no point in delaying the euthanasia because she is only going to suffer longer. She didn't get better immediately. We wanted to give her a week to see how she would be doing, but she got worse today - she got a wrong-looking tilt to her head, vomited out all the food she had recently eaten, started stumbling while walking and her legs got a little shaky. As hard as it was to put her to sleep on my birthday, it was ultimately a good thing. It would wreck me to keep seeing her like this for any longer. I think we've already waited too long and she got from "not that terrible" to the "suffering" point - this is the only thing I regret about this whole thing. I told myself that I won't make her suffer by waiting too long and I failed. But she's resting in the Kitty Heaven now and doesn't feel painful or confused or unsafe anymore. She was a sweet and hilarious cat, and a little shit until the very end. A picspam from when she was still healthy because it's my birthday and I do what I want. I'm camera-shy and she took after me, so naturally, whenever I properly got her face on the pictures, she looked like she would slit my throat in my sleep. Sorry about my face getting on the picture The floofy derp is her Sister from another Mister (and another mother). They didn't like each other much so them lying so close to each other was wow, huge. I'm so sorry. I had a hard time when my beloved dog passed away many years ago, and recently my aunt had to put one of her cats to sleep. It's difficult to have to decide when the time is right for your pets to go, but making sure they don't suffer is what's most important. Your cat had a good life and passed away happy and loved.
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Post by Joey on May 19, 2017 17:53:50 GMT
What? It's Jaal thread. This belongs here.
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Post by kestrel on May 19, 2017 18:09:03 GMT
So, uh. Elaaden no longer appears to exist as a location I can visit in my game. I guess it's time to reboot.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on May 19, 2017 18:12:43 GMT
Alright wtf just happened? I left the apartments and saw an "Inspect" button pop up on the wall but nothing happened when I pressed "Y" so what IS that? Do you have a particular quest where you need to head to the apartment like when you first meet Kalinda or investigate jien Garson's murder and it's just not activated? That's never happened to me before, strange.
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Post by kestrel on May 19, 2017 18:15:14 GMT
also I'm moving this up from being the last post at the bottom of the page for reasons. >>
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Post by fadburger on May 19, 2017 18:15:40 GMT
Heh, I'd be able to go into Peebee's apartment after I was supposed to (this was pre-patch so idk how it is now) and Peebee would be standing there completely lifeless except for blinking...also she would be elsewhere on the Nexus at the same time, where she was supposed to be. So there were 2 Peebees on the Nexus, creepy lol
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Post by fadburger on May 19, 2017 18:16:16 GMT
So, uh. Elaaden no longer appears to exist as a location I can visit in my game. I guess it's time to reboot. Well, that's not good O_O
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on May 19, 2017 18:21:10 GMT
also I'm moving this up from being the last post at the bottom of the page for reasons. >> lol I love how sam pops up at the most inopportune times. Also I love a little nibbling myself. perfect. Do you have a particular quest where you need to head to the apartment like when you first meet Kalinda or investigate the jien's murder and it's just not activated? That's never happened to me before, strange. I had just left Jien's room and was heading to her VI to find out her secret. On my way, near the guy who talks about the power outages (completed that quest ages ago dude, shut the fuck up!), that symbol popped up really high above my head on the wall, but nothing happens when I click it. *sigh* it seems like new bugs, I was kind of hoping you found some hidden secret mission.
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Post by kestrel on May 19, 2017 18:21:29 GMT
So, uh. Elaaden no longer appears to exist as a location I can visit in my game. I guess it's time to reboot. Well, that's not good O_O I've actually had very few errors until this moment, but uh... Losing a planet is a big one. xD
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