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Post by PenDev0us on May 19, 2017 22:45:41 GMT
Built up fan popularity led to a garrus and Tali romance. So let's let Bioware know we want Lexi. 😊 That's what I'm hoping for, but sadly I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't happen since her writer is getting so much #MakeReyesASquadmate( ) stuff it drowns other stuff out. In a way, with how they did Lexi in MEA it may make her being an ace/demi LI an even better story since it takes time for that bond to form between her and Ryder and Ryder can express how unlike other people like her exes they like her just the way she is. Speaking of her exes, it is never specified what kind of relationship or how far the relationship went so it could work that way as well. For example due to her orientation maybe she wasn't interested in having sex which led to it seeming like the relationship is stagnating and the exes getting to that conclusion where it is only an experiment to her even though it isn't. Reyes really doesn't suit the squaddie profile, his personality and MO is very 'shadowman'. For him to go aaaaanywhere near the limelight goes against his character. I could see him being a temporary squaddie for a special mission (kinda like Aria), but no more than that.
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on May 19, 2017 22:47:37 GMT
Actually, an angara who employed the Cersei Lannister technique (using "honest feelings to do dishonest work") could make for a really, really cool villain. Not ALL angara can be emotionally open, just like how not all turians are militaristic and stuck up, and not all krogan are battle-hardened brutes. Individuals develop different strategies, and some of those strategies are divergent from that of their culture. BW needs to do this! They kept even the worst Angara tame in MEA. Like the typical idiot villain in Liam's LM haha "What do you mean it's not working?" I think they made a conscious choice to play it a bit "safe" with the angara, since they are the only non-hostile species we encounter in Heleus. The planets are trying to kill us, the kett are trying to kill us, so the angara had to form the sympathetic connection for the player. IMO they played it a bit too safe; I like the angara as a species, but I wish ME:A had emphasized some of their more alien traits. Like the whole thing with being open and honest about your feelings? It's portrayed, generally, as a positive trait for the angara. But it should clash with many human sensibilities about things like tactful omission, white lies, what's acceptable behavior in public and in private, etc. It could be a source of serious conflict vis a vis espionage and politics, especially since salarians are part of the AI too. But nope. All the potential issues never come up.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 19, 2017 22:47:39 GMT
That's what I'm hoping for, but sadly I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't happen since her writer is getting so much #MakeReyesASquadmate( ) stuff it drowns other stuff out. In a way, with how they did Lexi in MEA it may make her being an ace/demi LI an even better story since it takes time for that bond to form between her and Ryder and Ryder can express how unlike other people like her exes they like her just the way she is. Speaking of her exes, it is never specified what kind of relationship or how far the relationship went so it could work that way as well. For example due to her orientation maybe she wasn't interested in having sex which led to it seeming like the relationship is stagnating and the exes getting to that conclusion where it is only an experiment to her even though it isn't. Reyes really doesn't suit the squaddie profile, his personality and MO is very 'shadowman'. For him to go aaaaanywhere near the limelight goes against his character. I could see him being a temporary squaddie for a special mission (kinda like Aria), but no more than that. I agree. Plus with how things can end it makes no sense that Reyes would work with you or rather that Ryder would work with Reyes. At least not without forcing a lot of stuff like feelings towards each other that goes against how many players played.
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Post by PenDev0us on May 19, 2017 22:56:52 GMT
Kinda like how if you play your cards right (or wrong in this case) you can get Iron Bull to betray you, even if you romance him. IMO it's the perfect kind of betrayal, as it's unexpected and it HURTS when it happens. They really hit the inquisitior over the head with that in the slides. It really added salt to know you were mocked afterwards It was brutal. His betrayal happened on my 3rd playthrough, I remember being so shocked at first, exiting the game and making myself a cup of tea 'cuz it hurt so bad! Glad I didn't romance him that playthrough (he was Dorians) but it didn't take that much off the sting. Of course after a contemplative tea, I was livid and ready to lay the smackdown. All after mockery was met with swears on my end! :rage: But still, it remains my fave betrayal purely because it wasn't obvious!
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on May 19, 2017 23:03:32 GMT
Glad I didn't romance him that playthrough (he was Dorians) but it didn't take that much off the sting. Of course after a contemplative tea, I was livid and ready to lay the smackdown. All after mockery was met with swears on my end! :rage: But still, it remains my fave betrayal purely because it wasn't obvious! For me it was worse watching it happen to Dorian. I don't mind as much if the PC shoots themselves in the foot. But ruining someone else's chance at happiness is...ouch WEEEEEEEEEEEKES!!!!!
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Post by PenDev0us on May 19, 2017 23:03:44 GMT
It's amazing how slowing down and talking to everyone and learning more about them can change your perspective. I am now liking Jill after talking more with Gil. Jaal is waaay more of a sweetheart than you could imagine! Drack is not as nice as I thought. PeeBee really cares about you. Cora has known you since before the trip and I think she wants to keep you safe also in honor of Alec besides being your second. Liam is a true pal and he tries to keep it professional but he wants to be with you. Lexi is like a second mother. Suvi adores you. Kallo respects and admires you. Gil is your wingman! Vetra is very protective of you. I haven't had the chance to see the side of Drack that wasn't 'caring space grandpa' because I was pretty nice to him in my playthrough (I let him drop that guy off the ledge and saved his scouts) what's he like otherwise?
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Post by yeah rip on May 19, 2017 23:06:05 GMT
It's amazing how slowing down and talking to everyone and learning more about them can change your perspective. I am now liking Jill after talking more with Gil.
Jaal is waaay more of a sweetheart than you could imagine!
Drack is not as nice as I thought. PeeBee really cares about you. Cora has known you since before the trip and I think she wants to keep you safe also in honor of Alec besides being your second. Liam is a true pal and he tries to keep it professional but he wants to be with you.[b/]
Lexi is like a second mother.
Suvi adores you.
Kallo respects and admires you.
Gil is your wingman!
Vetra is very protective of you.Ooh, tell me more! Which banters made you come to these conclusions?
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on May 19, 2017 23:09:11 GMT
Yeah, I want to know about Drack's other side as well now. I mean, I'll still probably love the guy because I just love Krogan by default but now I'm intrigued.
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Post by PenDev0us on May 19, 2017 23:11:16 GMT
Glad I didn't romance him that playthrough (he was Dorians) but it didn't take that much off the sting. Of course after a contemplative tea, I was livid and ready to lay the smackdown. All after mockery was met with swears on my end! :rage: But still, it remains my fave betrayal purely because it wasn't obvious! For me it was worse watching it happen to Dorian. I don't mind as much if the PC shoots themselves in the foot. But ruining someone else's chance at happiness is...ouch WEEEEEEEEEEEKES!!!!! And Dorian was so upset too! :sob: His voice was full of pain :D8: :gasp: :wtf:
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on May 19, 2017 23:23:33 GMT
For me it was worse watching it happen to Dorian. I don't mind as much if the PC shoots themselves in the foot. But ruining someone else's chance at happiness is...ouch WEEEEEEEEEEEKES!!!!! And Dorian was so upset too! :sob: His voice was full of pain :D8: :gasp: :wtf: Dorian is Best Mage, and any time he's in pain I want to do murder. Solas better not harm a single hair on Dorian's head in the next game, or all that talk of "redemption" goes flying out the window in a fiery cataclysm of pain
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Post by PenDev0us on May 19, 2017 23:28:30 GMT
And Dorian was so upset too! :sob: His voice was full of pain :D8: :gasp: :wtf: Dorian is Best Mage, and any time he's in pain I want to do murder. Solas better not harm a single hair on Dorian's head in the next game, or all that talk of "redemption" goes flying out the window in a fiery cataclysm of pain Always protect Dorian!
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Post by beholderess on May 19, 2017 23:35:04 GMT
Bahahaha! Now I'm imagining Jaal with Solas's PLOTTING FACE (TM) and it's returning a 404 error in my brain. Jaal couldn't do PLOTTING FACE (TM) if his life depended on it I know haha I tried and now that they made him even more emotional in the recent patch it's just pointless to look for anything like that! I do think the more detailed glare from Evfra when Jaal wants to join Ryder is hilarious though! Not even or conspiring, just "Wtf are you doing man?" kind of look. Now I imagine Evfra telling Jaal to be cautious (knowing full well that he ducks at it) - Jaal: They have been nice so far. Maybe I should.,, - Evfra: No - What if... - No - You aren't even listening! - I know you. Whatever you are thinking about right now - no - Fine, I'll just avoid conversation entirely then! - Please do. Stars, you are hopeless
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Post by brandoftime on May 19, 2017 23:35:49 GMT
@ Lady
Wow, you have brought out so much I only half paid attention to.
I'm currently waiting on another play thru for the (hopefully) updated CC, but just reading this is making it so hard!
I've been replaying Origins, and chose to make the ultimate sacrifice. I had the thought that maybe the dlc for MEA will leave us in some situation of where you have to choose to sacrifice whichever twin you're playing - or the galaxy/Angarans are destroyed. What if they do this to us? yikes. Instead of just losing a hand, maybe I have to make the ultimate sacrifice?
Would make replaying more layered, that's for sure.
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Post by kestrel on May 19, 2017 23:39:33 GMT
I have one more job app to do and then I'm DONE for the weekend and I'm finally free. x.x
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Post by PenDev0us on May 19, 2017 23:40:02 GMT
I know haha I tried and now that they made him even more emotional in the recent patch it's just pointless to look for anything like that! I do think the more detailed glare from Evfra when Jaal wants to join Ryder is hilarious though! Not even or conspiring, just "Wtf are you doing man?" kind of look. Now I imagine Evfra telling Jaal to be cautious (knowing full well that he ducks at it) - Jaal: They have been nice so far. Maybe I should.,, - Evfra: No - What if... - No - You aren't even listening! - I know you. Whatever you are thinking about right now - no - Fine, I'll just avoid conversation entirely then! - Please do. Stars, you are hopeless This is perfect
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Post by ninaskye on May 20, 2017 1:42:10 GMT
LC! Welcome back! Is this in the new game? Because I remember there only being two. Three if you count the forehead touching after his LM
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Post by Gwyvian on May 20, 2017 2:34:51 GMT
Actually I've noticed some things I didn't before: I always picked up on the Gil/Suvi/Kallo stuff and some of the others, but Cora... see, I always wondered where the hell that tension was that they kept mentioning about her feeling a little resentful about you taking over as Pathfinder over her, but during my first PT I just got the impression that she was one of the most supportive crew members, deferring to you as the leader when the others were going off on their little tangents about their "truly important" missions that should come before all the others - but the second time around I was a little stunned to realize that during the first "round table meeting" you have she's actually showing that resentment in her tone. I totally didn't pick up on it the first time, especially since I talked a lot with her and I got on her good side fairly quickly, I'm guessing because of my dialogue options, so it came as a surprise to hear her doubt you. (I think I chose the dialogue option that thanks everyone for the faith they put in me as the Pathfinder to which she replies "we'll see" or something like that in this cool tone of voice.) She's still awesome though, I'm just thinking I have rose-tinted glasses about MEA and I just assume everyone loves me instantly. Also Drack - I don't think he was ever "nice" in that way, I mean, he's krogan, plus his LM involves tossing a guy off a cliff after making sure he's conscious and aware he's going to die. But also, he's a soldier in the MET kind of way, which is one of the reasons I like him. Him being sore about losing his scouts, well, to be fair, historically the krogan have always come in last, I can't blame him for feeling disappointed that in a new galaxy yet another upstart kid with power in her/his hands is not going to put their people first... from the Pathfinder's point of view there's no reason you should unless you really like them, but I wouldn't expect or want Drack to be "sensible" about it - I mean, have you ever met a truly sensible krogan (apart from Eve)?
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Post by beholderess on May 20, 2017 2:36:11 GMT
It's amazing how slowing down and talking to everyone and learning more about them can change your perspective. I am now liking Jill after talking more with Gil. Jaal is waaay more of a sweetheart than you could imagine! Drack is not as nice as I thought. PeeBee really cares about you. Cora has known you since before the trip and I think she wants to keep you safe also in honor of Alec besides being your second. Liam is a true pal and he tries to keep it professional but he wants to be with you. Lexi is like a second mother. Suvi adores you. Kallo respects and admires you. Gil is your wingman! Vetra is very protective of you. About Drack never getting over the Krogan scouts incident - I've just realized something that could possibly explain it - and makes it even more sad. By the way, I tend to save the Salarians and do not regret that decision, because a) Raeka saved our lives and I've never heard about the scours before salarians are civilians waking up in a horrific situation through no fault of their own, while the scouts are, well, scouts, they knew the risk and took it. But anyway, here's what I came to realize after Drack's loyalty mission - he sincerely, genuinely considers himself expendable. He does not see any difference between himself and any random Krogan fighter, and sees no reason why anybody should see him as anything more than that. When Ryder says that he is not expendable to them, if the scouts were sacrificed, Drack will bring that up and make it clear that he does not quite believe Ryder's words. The thought that Ryder might regard him as a personal friend does not even occur to him, he sees himself as interchangeable with any random Krogan mook, worth no more than a meatshield in the grand scheme of things. A relic of times better forgotten, who has no place in the future.
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Post by Gwyvian on May 20, 2017 2:56:15 GMT
It's amazing how slowing down and talking to everyone and learning more about them can change your perspective. I am now liking Jill after talking more with Gil. Jaal is waaay more of a sweetheart than you could imagine! Drack is not as nice as I thought. PeeBee really cares about you. Cora has known you since before the trip and I think she wants to keep you safe also in honor of Alec besides being your second. Liam is a true pal and he tries to keep it professional but he wants to be with you. Lexi is like a second mother. Suvi adores you. Kallo respects and admires you. Gil is your wingman! Vetra is very protective of you. About Drack never getting over the Krogan scouts incident - I've just realized something that could possibly explain it - and makes it even more sad. By the way, I tend to save the Salarians and do not regret that decision, because a) Raeka saved our lives and I've never heard about the scours before salarians are civilians waking up in a horrific situation through no fault of their own, while the scouts are, well, scouts, they knew the risk and took it. But anyway, here's what I came to realize after Drack's loyalty mission - he sincerely, genuinely considers himself expendable. He does not see any difference between himself and any random Krogan fighter, and sees no reason why anybody should see him as anything more than that. When Ryder says that he is not expendable to them, if the scouts were sacrificed, Drack will bring that up and make it clear that he does not quite believe Ryder's words. The thought that Ryder might regard him as a personal friend does not even occur to him, he sees himself as interchangeable with any random Krogan mook, worth no more than a meatshield in the grand scheme of things. A relic of times better forgotten, who has no place in the future. And there's that. Personally I think Drack is one of the most distinguished krogans I have met so far, but he definitely doesn't see himself as such - plus I also think about the fact that he was there in the beginning plays into it, how must all of this history seem to him being as old as he is, seeing his people's decline? All this time, all the suffering his people went through and at the end saving his people's lives becomes secondary to something that, from his perspective, may seem like a political ploy again. There's no way that looks good from his point of view, especially because it's something a salarian would do, choose 'the greater good' or some other grandiose reason because Raeka is a real Pathfinder, because the salarians were given a reprieve after a trauma and yeah, it's difficult to imagine that anyone would consider his people anything but canon fodder because they are really tough. But subjecting his people to exaltation makes it seem a little hollow when you become outraged at how horrifying it is when it's done to angara. Of course, it wouldn't come as a surprise if you chose a play style were willing to e.g. blow up the facility, then you owe no apologies for your choices because you've been consistent in making 'greater good' choices and such, but I could see why he would be actually mad at a PC who kept making e.g. the compassionate choices and then didn't show that same compassion to a people so wronged throughout their history as part of the MW galactic community - of course, they are far from innocents needing protection, they made terrible choices, too, but I think what Drack is looking for is a basic respect for krogan lives that pretty much no one, not even other krogans, really demonstrate. So far I've always picked the scouts - I felt really horrible about the incredible suffering the salarians went through, but even if I went the other way, I'd be mad if I were Drack, too.
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Post by lilyenachaos on May 20, 2017 3:43:13 GMT
I've been driving around the desert with Drack and Liam/Cora/Peebee, and getting to like Drack more and more. He's a grumpy old krogan, he knows it, and he's not apologizing for it. His jokes are terribad. You can tell he's seen and experienced so much that he tries his hardest not to become attached to anyone anymore (humans are meat, afterall), but you can also tell it isn't quite working. Ryder loves you too grandpa krogan.
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Post by yeah rip on May 20, 2017 8:13:53 GMT
About Drack never getting over the Krogan scouts incident - I've just realized something that could possibly explain it - and makes it even more sad. By the way, I tend to save the Salarians and do not regret that decision, because a) Raeka saved our lives and I've never heard about the scours before salarians are civilians waking up in a horrific situation through no fault of their own, while the scouts are, well, scouts, they knew the risk and took it. But anyway, here's what I came to realize after Drack's loyalty mission - he sincerely, genuinely considers himself expendable. He does not see any difference between himself and any random Krogan fighter, and sees no reason why anybody should see him as anything more than that. When Ryder says that he is not expendable to them, if the scouts were sacrificed, Drack will bring that up and make it clear that he does not quite believe Ryder's words. The thought that Ryder might regard him as a personal friend does not even occur to him, he sees himself as interchangeable with any random Krogan mook, worth no more than a meatshield in the grand scheme of things. A relic of times better forgotten, who has no place in the future. And there's that. Personally I think Drack is one of the most distinguished krogans I have met so far, but he definitely doesn't see himself as such - plus I also think about the fact that he was there in the beginning plays into it, how must all of this history seem to him being as old as he is, seeing his people's decline? All this time, all the suffering his people went through and at the end saving his people's lives becomes secondary to something that, from his perspective, may seem like a political ploy again. There's no way that looks good from his point of view, especially because it's something a salarian would do, choose 'the greater good' or some other grandiose reason because Raeka is a real Pathfinder, because the salarians were given a reprieve after a trauma and yeah, it's difficult to imagine that anyone would consider his people anything but canon fodder because they are really tough. But subjecting his people to exaltation makes it seem a little hollow when you become outraged at how horrifying it is when it's done to angara. Of course, it wouldn't come as a surprise if you chose a play style were willing to e.g. blow up the facility, then you owe no apologies for your choices because you've been consistent in making 'greater good' choices and such, but I could see why he would be actually mad at a PC who kept making e.g. the compassionate choices and then didn't show that same compassion to a people so wronged throughout their history as part of the MW galactic community - of course, they are far from innocents needing protection, they made terrible choices, too, but I think what Drack is looking for is a basic respect for krogan lives that pretty much no one, not even other krogans, really demonstrate. So far I've always picked the scouts - I felt really horrible about the incredible suffering the salarians went through, but even if I went the other way, I'd be mad if I were Drack, too. To be fair, if you save the scouts, the same thing would be done to the Salarians - they would be experimented on until the Kett find a way to exalt them or until they die. I don't think there's much difference here. What made a difference for me was that the Krogan scouts knew what they were getting into, but the Salarians were civilians who woke up to hostile aliens intending to torture them. Then there are things that made the choice a little easier for me personally - Raeka is a Pathfinder, and they need whatever experienced pathfinder they can get, and the Salarians lost a lot of people while the Krogan are all cozy on Elaaden or Kadara and even making a dent in genophage, so Drack's "woe is me" about Krogans sounds a bit hollow here. Honestly, Kallo handles it way better is you save the scouts, and he has more reason to be mad, imo. About the Kett facility choices - both options can be seen as either pragmatic, emotional or a bit of both. I didn't save the Angara becauseI was outraged and horrified honestly, after playing so many Bioware games, I've become kinda desensitized to the "horrible revelations" like that, heh. I saved them because my game was bugged and Jaal stopped talking to me for TOO long 1) they really can't afford to lose any more people, and there were hundreds if not thousands of them in that facility, plus the Resistance fighters, scientists etc, who are especially valuable, 2) This can't be the only exaltation facility they have, blowing it up won't make as much of a difference as it appears, 3) we're trying to become friends with Angara and sacrificing their people is probably not a good way to do it. Of course, both options turn out fine (though Evfra is happier if you save the Angara) and Angara can be divided on the subject of which one is the better choice, but Ryder doesn't know that at the time, and saving the people is the safest option. 4) we can come back to destroy it later, or we could if the game let us. They could already reprogram their shield, but we have SAM so I don't see a problem there. edited a bit
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Post by fadburger on May 20, 2017 8:33:10 GMT
And there's that. Personally I think Drack is one of the most distinguished krogans I have met so far, but he definitely doesn't see himself as such - plus I also think about the fact that he was there in the beginning plays into it, how must all of this history seem to him being as old as he is, seeing his people's decline? All this time, all the suffering his people went through and at the end saving his people's lives becomes secondary to something that, from his perspective, may seem like a political ploy again. There's no way that looks good from his point of view, especially because it's something a salarian would do, choose 'the greater good' or some other grandiose reason because Raeka is a real Pathfinder, because the salarians were given a reprieve after a trauma and yeah, it's difficult to imagine that anyone would consider his people anything but canon fodder because they are really tough. But subjecting his people to exaltation makes it seem a little hollow when you become outraged at how horrifying it is when it's done to angara. Of course, it wouldn't come as a surprise if you chose a play style were willing to e.g. blow up the facility, then you owe no apologies for your choices because you've been consistent in making 'greater good' choices and such, but I could see why he would be actually mad at a PC who kept making e.g. the compassionate choices and then didn't show that same compassion to a people so wronged throughout their history as part of the MW galactic community - of course, they are far from innocents needing protection, they made terrible choices, too, but I think what Drack is looking for is a basic respect for krogan lives that pretty much no one, not even other krogans, really demonstrate. So far I've always picked the scouts - I felt really horrible about the incredible suffering the salarians went through, but even if I went the other way, I'd be mad if I were Drack, too. To be fair, if you save the scouts, the same thing would be done to the Salarians - they would be experimented on until the Kett find a way to exalt them or until they die. I don't think there's much difference here. What made a difference for me was that the Krogan scouts knew what they were getting into, but the Salarians were civilians who woke up to hostile aliens intending to torture them. Then there are things that made the choice a little easier for me personally - Raeka is a Pathfinder, and they need whatever experienced pathfinder they can get, and the Salarians lost a lot of people while the Krogan are all cozy on Elaaden or Kadara and even making a dent in genophage, so Drack's "woe is me" about Krogans sounds a bit hollow here. Honestly, Kallo handles it way better is you save the scouts, and he has more reason to be mad, imo. About the Kett facility choices - both options can be seen as either pragmatic, emotional or a bit of both. I didn't save the Angara becauseI was outraged and horrified honestly, after playing so many Bioware games, I've become kinda desensitized to the "horrible revelations" like that, heh. I saved them because my game was bugged and Jaal stopped talking to me for TOO long 1) they really can't afford to lose any more people, and there were hundreds if not thousands of them in that facility, plus the Resistance fighters, scientists etc, who are especially valuable, 2) This can't be the only exaltation facility they have, blowing it up won't make as much of a difference as it appears, 3) we're trying to become friends with Angara and sacrificing their people is probably not a good way to do it. Of course, both options turn out fine (though Evfra is happier if you save the Angara) and Angara can be divided on the subject of which one is the better choice, but Ryder doesn't know that at the time, and saving the people is the safest option. 4) we can come back to destroy it later, or we could if the game let us. They could already reprogram their shield, but we have SAM so I don't see a problem there. edited a bit I hope this is one of those choices that effect future games because it didn't matter worth shit for this game lol. I got all the pathfinder newbies and everything turned out fine/exactly the same as if I got the more experienced ones.
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Post by yeah rip on May 20, 2017 8:50:27 GMT
To be fair, if you save the scouts, the same thing would be done to the Salarians - they would be experimented on until the Kett find a way to exalt them or until they die. I don't think there's much difference here. What made a difference for me was that the Krogan scouts knew what they were getting into, but the Salarians were civilians who woke up to hostile aliens intending to torture them. Then there are things that made the choice a little easier for me personally - Raeka is a Pathfinder, and they need whatever experienced pathfinder they can get, and the Salarians lost a lot of people while the Krogan are all cozy on Elaaden or Kadara and even making a dent in genophage, so Drack's "woe is me" about Krogans sounds a bit hollow here. Honestly, Kallo handles it way better is you save the scouts, and he has more reason to be mad, imo. About the Kett facility choices - both options can be seen as either pragmatic, emotional or a bit of both. I didn't save the Angara becauseI was outraged and horrified honestly, after playing so many Bioware games, I've become kinda desensitized to the "horrible revelations" like that, heh. I saved them because my game was bugged and Jaal stopped talking to me for TOO long 1) they really can't afford to lose any more people, and there were hundreds if not thousands of them in that facility, plus the Resistance fighters, scientists etc, who are especially valuable, 2) This can't be the only exaltation facility they have, blowing it up won't make as much of a difference as it appears, 3) we're trying to become friends with Angara and sacrificing their people is probably not a good way to do it. Of course, both options turn out fine (though Evfra is happier if you save the Angara) and Angara can be divided on the subject of which one is the better choice, but Ryder doesn't know that at the time, and saving the people is the safest option. 4) we can come back to destroy it later, or we could if the game let us. They could already reprogram their shield, but we have SAM so I don't see a problem there. edited a bit I hope this is one of those choices that effect future games because it didn't matter worth shit for this game lol. I got all the pathfinder newbies and everything turned out fine/exactly the same as if I got the more experienced ones. Lol, kinda fits the whole hopeful new beginnings theme Very "Naruto". The game treats this thing as " any Pathfinder is better than no Pathfinder". But this is meta knowledge, I was talking from the roleplaying standpoint.
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Post by PenDev0us on May 20, 2017 10:40:32 GMT
I hope this is one of those choices that effect future games because it didn't matter worth shit for this game lol. I got all the pathfinder newbies and everything turned out fine/exactly the same as if I got the more experienced ones. TBH I'd love it if a lot of seemingly insignificant choices that were made in Andromeda were precursors to larger more debilitating choices in the next game. Haven't a clue which choices could do that... maybe your choices with the drive core? It is a tiny choice that affects Elladens colony, but Morda rubs me the wrong way. Throwback to an old thing I said: As for ME:A... I honestly can't think of anyone that fits the bill... everyone seems so 'up front' with their opinions to the point where if they did a 180 o flip, it would be so out of character MORDA I COULD TOTALLY SEE HER GOING BACK ON HER PARTNERSHIP WITH THE ELLADEN COLONY AS "PAYBACK" FOR WHAT HAPPENED ON THE NEXUS
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