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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on May 21, 2017 0:11:29 GMT
Me tbh.
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Post by Gwyvian on May 21, 2017 0:13:19 GMT
Me tbh. Hahaha, is that good or bad?
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Post by lilyenachaos on May 21, 2017 0:13:38 GMT
Woo!
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on May 21, 2017 0:15:28 GMT
Me tbh. Hahaha, is that good or bad? The waiting makes me as dry as a desert but the chapters are the oasis in the middle, it means your stories are that damn good and any type of waiting is painful.
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Post by Gwyvian on May 21, 2017 0:18:40 GMT
Hahaha, is that good or bad? The waiting makes me as dry as a desert but the chapters are the oasis in the middle, it means your stories are that damn good and any type of waiting is painful. Awwww. I'm blushing.
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Post by Gwyvian on May 21, 2017 0:24:58 GMT
Love it so so so much! Akksul is amazingly in character and I'm seeing the side of him we never saw in-game but imagined was there. I am truly happy to hear this, thank you. It's damn hard writing Akksul with so little content, I mean, Evfra was a challenge, but there's so little on Akksul that it's ridiculous, but also there are these implications about his character that are never shown.
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Post by Gwyvian on May 21, 2017 0:32:41 GMT
I am truly happy to hear this, thank you. It's damn hard writing Akksul with so little content, I mean, Evfra was a challenge, but there's so little on Akksul that it's ridiculous, but also there are these implications about his character that are never shown. Yeah if you explore the welcome center slowly with your scanner (especially the blood and broken window) and listen to audio logs and read datapads, both Jaal and the things you find show you what kind of man Akksul was, and why shooting Jaal was appalling to the Roekaar. Yeah, I was pulling a lot of information from that, trying to get to his roots - I figured, after his failure at the Forge, it would make sense that it clears the way for his internal struggles with what happened to him to start to surface and therefore his old self, too. I'm trying to hit the right balance with that process, but a lot of this side of it is guesswork.
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Post by Gwyvian on May 21, 2017 0:41:39 GMT
Basically from what I learned, Akksul was a genius who studied the Rem-tech, and I'm betting one day might have been able to use it (most likely why Jaal failed lol). He loved everyone so much, and the Moshae was everything to him. He always used brute force to get a point across, but never killed another Angara. He was loved for his love of them. He was charismatic, charming and a motivator. Hope that helps! Yeah, I came to the same conclusions. His character profile isn't really what I find difficult in that sense, it's more his personality; I'm basing a lot of it on rumors and what I hear and see in his Roekaar incarnation, but that doesn't tell me a lot about what kind of person he was, we only see a twisted version of it - I'm extrapolating, I mean, I think I'm right, but it's not easy all the same. I'll hit my stride, I just need time to perfect it.
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Post by lilyenachaos on May 21, 2017 0:46:38 GMT
Completely not on topic, but Elaaden's vault is my least favorite. I like puzzles, but not this many of them. :smh:
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on May 21, 2017 0:49:51 GMT
Gwyvian lol I love how it seems like Akksul has to remind himself to hate her now. Almost as if he chastises himself in his mind every time he feels a hint of concern.
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Post by Gwyvian on May 21, 2017 0:50:45 GMT
Yeah, I came to the same conclusions. His character profile isn't really what I find difficult in that sense, it's more his personality; I'm basing a lot of it on rumors and what I hear and see in his Roekaar incarnation, but that doesn't tell me a lot about what kind of person he was, we only see a twisted version of it - I'm extrapolating, I mean, I think I'm right, but it's not easy all the same. I'll hit my stride, I just need time to perfect it. Looks right to me haha he shows his soft side with the Moshae. When he says she could have died his voice cracks with pain and fear. He loves his people so much it hurts him when they hurt. He was also confident and infallible based on Thaldyr's words. I found his heart to be too big since he puts everyone first. The welcome center was evacuated to protect his people too despite his broken mind. He also lets hurt affect him. Jaal said them not saving him made him turn on them because he felt betrayed. Akksul is a sensitive little soul lol Yeah, that's my read on him as well. I'm going to have fun digging into those roots, I have such plans...
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Post by fadburger on May 21, 2017 0:59:15 GMT
How I imagine Gwyvian (minus the typing speed test part lol):
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Post by Gwyvian on May 21, 2017 1:00:58 GMT
Gwyvian lol I love how it seems like Akksul has to remind himself to hate her now. Almost as if he chastises himself in his mind every time he feels a hint of concern. He's a softie at heart. You just need to kidnap him, throw him into a hole and nearly kill him to bring it out! How I imagine Gwyvian (minus the typing speed test part lol): Yep, pretty much accurate, hahaha.
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Post by yeah rip on May 21, 2017 1:10:12 GMT
It probably doesn't make much sense But when Akksul said "I know, stop defending them", he sounded like a kid who was annoyed with his friend for not agreeing with him.
And with this valuable contribution, I'm off to bed. Night, everyone!
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Post by Psychedelic on May 21, 2017 1:16:50 GMT
All this talk of language makes me wish the dev team would hire someone to create some of the alien languages for lore purposes, so that we can delve into them. I would really like to know if the Angaran language uses a formal you themselves or if it's just thrown in there for the sake of the language that's being translated etc. Also does anyone know if the German translation uses the formal Sie or informal Du as well? As far as I know they did hire some linguist for DA, but didn't even then they didn't make a full language. The elvhen translations are very open to interpretation and I don't quite buy their explanation that's because it is such an abstract language. Or the alien languages in KotOR. Added a nice flair, but even after I noticed they repeat the same lines over and over I couldn't keep myself from trying to make sense of it . Very distracting. I have only seen one trailer in German, in the scene with the exaltation facility Ryder uses "Sie". For some reason I found that way funnier than I should have. Technically it's not wrong, but it feels so very wrong, Idk, I don't envy the translators their job (Ryder also said "Jawl" , but that's another matter ). They probably changed it later to "du", but I am not going to find out, the translation is almost always worse than the original. The last game I played in German was the Witcher, and that only because Polish isn't an option for me.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on May 21, 2017 1:20:49 GMT
OMFG have any of you talked to the Moshae post-game if you choose her for Ambassador? She says she's not sure if she wants to strike me lol I said I'd give her a free shot! Cool! I don't remember getting that line but I'll probably end up hearing it eventually as she is the only choice I really like. I also think she might be playing at being angry because something tells me she actually likes the power but doesn't want to admit to it. If she did strike Ryder I would expect them to hug it out after as that seems like a very Angara thing to do. It probably doesn't make much sense But when Akksul said "I know, stop defending them", he sounded like a kid who was annoyed with his friend for not agreeing with him. And with this valuable contribution, I'm off to bed. Night, everyone! Perfect sense, that's exactly where I felt like his facade drops for a brief moment and shows his vulnerabilities. He wants his people to see that what he is doing is only out of love for them and just can't fathom why some would see him as misguided. Good night!
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Post by Gwyvian on May 21, 2017 1:26:16 GMT
It probably doesn't make much sense But when Akksul said "I know, stop defending them", he sounded like a kid who was annoyed with his friend for not agreeing with him. And with this valuable contribution, I'm off to bed. Night, everyone! Yep, my favorite Akksul moment, hands down.
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Post by Roxy on May 21, 2017 2:11:32 GMT
I forgot about your Akksul fic. I am caught up now and I just want to say you are making it not easy Gwyvian...I want Ryder to kick him in the nuts so bad. lol
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Post by Gwyvian on May 21, 2017 2:27:54 GMT
I forgot about your Akksul fic. I am caught up now and I just want to say you are making it not easy Gwyvian...I want Ryder to kick him in the nuts so bad. lol Well, gotta keep the heat up....
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Post by Gwyvian on May 21, 2017 6:01:52 GMT
OMG, Gamble Edit: okay, this is pretty old. I sure missed out on stuff. True, true. The same goes for the salarians in that sense though, so I guess that makes using their genes and potiential kettification a moot point no matter how we look at it, plus the damage was already more than done with the salarians; the kett had ample time and test subjects for who knows how long. I think the krogans definitely need to do better and they definitely have a big share in the blame as to why the genophage happened - but then, ultimately I can't get over the simple fact that the salarians uplifted them in the first place when their civilization clearly wasn't mature enough to work out how to be a stable civilization (I am more than a little influenced by a Prime Directive sort of concept as being an extremely sensible precaution in such situations - yeah, the survival of the galaxy was at stake, I'd have made the same choice maybe, but the consequences that come with that decision should be shouldered by them, too, and from everything I learned in MET about that time period the salarians could have done more, they did treat the krogan like canon fodder second class citizens pretty much from the outset). It's not as if the krogan didn't have the potential to be a stable civilization, just take Eve as an example; she's the reason why I am willing to trust in the krogan in the first place, because her character shows a side of the krogan that has been severely oppressed in a way - because of the genophage (not arguing that it was necessary, because I agree that at the time, it was a good solution), their civilization has been forced into a kind of tribal system that focuses on survival at all costs and that's what truly changed my mind about them. I imagined that if the krogan were given a second chance and if they had the right leadership (I love Wrex, but without Eve he's not enough to sway me, nor would I have even considered curing them of the genophage if Wreav was in charge), the intelligent side of their race would have a chance to finally become more than baby-making commodities or throwaway mercs and maybe they actually might have a shot at building a viable civilization. I agree with Wrex that given the hopelessness of their civilization all the krogan know how to do is be idiot mercenaries, it's not sustainable, but there are reasons why they consider themselves to be expendable. I mean, look at our own history - we are an extremely violent race at times and if a people like the salarians came along to uplift us, I'm not sure humanity would do much better. Our population explosions are even a little reminiscent of the krogan, if not nearly so drastically, and in an ME context, humans are way more versatile than any other species from many points of view - so, I guess, I see a great kinship there. Plus, there may have been very good reasons to introduce the genophage, but by the time humans join the galactic community, it is clear that their civilization is on the verge of imploding - that's waiting far too long in my opinion, that's more than enough punishment for demanding more planets, more representation and more gratitude; there's a reason why Moridin eventually comes to the conclusion that curing them is the right thing to do and I agree with that reasoning. I'd love to see a DLC give us more consequence stuff like that - I'm honestly waaaay less sanguine about trusting Morda than I am with saving the scouts, actually. I was pro-krogan all the way in my PT, but honestly, I'd rather have Drack's trust and the trust of the less important guys among the krogan than a supercilious leader like Morda; sure, she was manipulated just as you were, but she makes her feelings about her importance vs. the Nexus abundantly clear and I'm not cool with that kind of attitude. Whoah, sorry about the wall of text. Don't worry, I live for walls of text like this You're making good points, especially about humanity. Salarians did have a lot - maybe everything - to do with how krogans turned out. Like Mordin said, it was like giving nuclear weapons to cavemen. That whole situation was a shitshow though,and there wouldn't be a great outcome either way. To be fair, the genophage returned the krogan population growth rate to what it was before uplifting. Don't know how much it can be believed, but the wiki says that the pre-uplifting conditions of Tuchanka kept their numbers in check, but after they didn't have to deal with such harsh conditions anymore, their population exploded. I'm not sure it would be a good idea to cure the genophage completely at this point, but raising the % of viable offspring would improve things significantly, imo. Yeah, I really didn't want my people anywhere near Elaaden after she un-subtly threatened the Nexus, but we really needed that colony, apparently Interesting... it seems even if you don't romance Jaal, when he makes comments about your taste in Reyes, Sara asks if he's jealous lol I never had Jaal comment on my flirting with Reyes :sob: Yeah, Moridin's assessment really stuck with me, and that's a fine point about pre-uplifting population control - with any civilization things related to population tend to evolve to match the circumstances/environment, eventually krogan fertility may have evolved to a more stable rate had the environment changed to support that. That's one very good reason why uplifting is at its heart a bad idea, not to mention that it's a shortcut that doesn't allow for wisdom and utility to go hand-in-hand. Then again, however I look at it there was no good solution in the Rachni wars, I understand why it happened the way it did, but ultimately there were a lot of mistakes on both sides down the line that made the situation so much worse. As for a cure, I like the idea they came up with in MEA that their fertility is increased by a certain percentage, but the genophage isn't completely eradicated, since the damage was done over a thousand years ago, this seems like damage control in a big way. Plus, as with my decision in MET to cure the genophage, this kind of thing is a huge motivator for krogans to get their act together and really work for a better future, not to repeat the mistakes made in the MW. I do really see that in New Tuchanka, otherwise I never would have trusted Morda with that drive core in the first place, but from all the tidbits you pick up here and there... those krogan give me hope for their species for the most part, there seem to be more than one level-headed ones in the mix there - plus actual scientists, not ones who grumble about wanting to do "real science" (a.k.a. weapons research) and forget everything else. They don't have to be defined by the tropes surrounding their race in Andromeda, hence why I ultimately gave them a chance. As I said though, I'm going to save the salarians with my Scott PT, so maybe my viewpoint may change on the matter. (More walls of text to come. )
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Post by PenDev0us on May 21, 2017 8:49:45 GMT
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Post by akaneryuu on May 21, 2017 11:03:11 GMT
So do we have any hopes for dlc's or???? cause it's looking pretty grim right now. I wouldn't worry too much right now as the kotaku article that started it seemed more like gossip. Every gaming company cuts back on their development teams to save on resources once a game is finished. I remember it happened with the witcher 3 team before they released all their DLC. Also keep in mind that an Andromeda 2 will be off the table for some years just because they have their new IP and Dragon age 4 to take care of first. Something that also boded well imo, was that I read on here that Cora's voice actress tweeted she was back in the studio recording more voice work. I think it was Hanako that originally mentioned she was back in the studio but I can't remember. Now that's not to say I'm right in my assessment because I could very well be wrong but as of right now, if I'm not reading it from Bioware or EA themselves than I don't really believe there is a hiatus, as it all seems pretty normal to me. *shrugs* Oh jeez now I feel stupid. If I knew from the start the source was an Kotaku article I would have laughed it off
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Post by yeah rip on May 21, 2017 12:08:30 GMT
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Post by beholderess on May 21, 2017 12:36:34 GMT
So, Jaal is a pretty badass person, from what we see of him. Also, loved and admired in the Resistance, judging by the NPCs reactions. Heck, certain people explicitly refer to him as hero.
And yet he feels inferior to one of his older sisters. Anyone else is curious about just how badass she is if Jaal is feeling completely overshadowed? Seriously, I want to know!
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Post by vana on May 21, 2017 13:20:19 GMT
So, Jaal is a pretty badass person, from what we see of him. Also, loved and admired in the Resistance, judging by the NPCs reactions. Heck, certain people explicitly refer to him as hero. And yet he feels inferior to one of his older sisters. Anyone else is curious about just how badass she is if Jaal is feeling completely overshadowed? Seriously, I want to know! Maybe his older sisters and brothers are not "that" badass, but you know how it is, when your parents keep comparing you to your older sister/brother/cousin when they want to critisize you or even without knowing it. "Your sister managed to get her diploma with very good marks" "your brother could drive a car when he was younger than you" "your cousin already got a good job, she is already manager" All these things can make you feel inferior or down, and I think that it's what happened to Jaal, because he has so many older brothers/sisters to be compared to, especially after his older brother charmed his first girlfriend under his nose and took her away. Poor Jaal must feel like sh*t... I also wonder how Ryder and the others can understand the Angara? do they have a special translator device (because sometimes Ryder says her translator cannot translate some angaran words) Or do the Angara speak english? how ? it sounds a bit like Stargate, you know, everyone in the galaxy conveniently speaks english
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