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Post by PenDev0us on May 21, 2017 19:36:50 GMT
Woooooah woah hold up, missed that for sure! When does this happen? After the Kett facility. He sees the Asari as no different than the Kett. They reproduce using genetics and every child looks like an Asari. Turned him right off. Ahhh yes I remember now Yeah that would definitely put a dampener on any Asari/Angara love. Though I do like how after he calls Peebs out on it, she tries to smooth things out a bit with the whole genetics thing :smiles:
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Post by PenDev0us on May 21, 2017 19:39:12 GMT
I think it has to do with growing up among at least a dozen siblings. You would need a high tolerance of bickering, teasing and competition (the more and less friendly sort) in order to survive, probably by being the biggest pest of all so you aren't lowest in the pecking order. Not speaking out of experience here, I personally find one sibling more than enough . On a completely unrelated note, when Sara has this eyeball-talk with Jaal, didn't he call her pathetic? Last time I played the scene (after the patches) it was "pitiful" instead. Thought I had remembered it wrongly, but now I read in a fanfic about the same scene "pathetic" again. Did they change it? True, that. As I've mentioned, I think that's why Jaal gets along so well with Liam - he is used to having a sibling like that. Also, it is my headcanon that among those Angara who like Ryder, a lot of them like the Pathfinder because s/he reminds them of their siblings - every family has one of those. You know, insufferable, irreverent, smart but crazy, too young and too brave and too curious for their own good, little pest Speaking of Jaal and Liam, I'm currently reading a fanfic that has Liam being a bit standoffish/rude(?) towards Jaal... kinda hoping that changes soon
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Post by vana on May 21, 2017 19:39:47 GMT
All part of their 'bro code' I'm sure~ I love them both so much, and together they are precious! They also both love Sara dearly. I know Liam seems to sort of like her even if you don't romance him, and if you don't romance Jaal, the game tries to steer you toward him anyways. Sara's got those 2 for life! While I was struggling getting the first "friendly/flirt" signs from Jaal, the game kept proposing me options of flirt with Liam, like ALL THE TIME. Almost like if the game was screaming "Please romance Liam! please please!! look that alien is not kind with you, take Liam instead! he wants you!" I always take Jaal in my missions, and in the Nomad he is always the one to talk first. I'm not complaining, I love hearing his party banter. But he's always the one starting the conversations, I wonder if the game detects I'm taking him more frequently for missions to they launch his conversations in priority? I got the "killing in your sleep" threat when I met him "Casual" tone is the one with the head and the heart? I don't always pick this one, it depends if I feel that being too emotive will bring mockery from the people I'm talking with or not.
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Post by PenDev0us on May 21, 2017 19:40:34 GMT
I love them both so much, and together they are precious! They also both love Sara dearly. I know Liam seems to sort of like her even if you don't romance him, and if you don't romance Jaal, the game tries to steer you toward him anyways. Sara's got those 2 for life! Yes, Scott will have to compete harder for the "beloved idiot little brother" place now YA SNOOZE YA LOSE BUDDY!
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Post by beholderess on May 21, 2017 19:41:55 GMT
I guess they can all collectively adopt Liam as their "idiot little brother" then And in case it is not evident, I love Liam to pieces So do I! He's just the best! That sweet smile in the opening scene just wins me over. Not romantically though. He's the bro Sara needs while her own bro is recovering, and he's so good to her and Jaal that he even helps him with erogenous zone tips lol Talk about being friendzoned! Or, rather, bro zoned. He is too perfect as a bro to romance. Although I keep thinking that in real like Liam would be the type of guy I could actually imagine having a romance with. Them hanging out at the couch with some beer and inane chatter about life - to me, the whole expressions and body language was showing "comfortable". Anyway, Liam needs an Angara girlfriend. He'd fit right in
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Post by PenDev0us on May 21, 2017 19:44:43 GMT
I used to do the thanks for trusting line, but honestly the welcome aboard funny handshake seemed more fitting in the end, but that might have just been because I was gunning for a slow burn romance with the guy. Slow burn as in only talk to him about one subject after each main/main-ish mission. It makes the convo you have with him where he asks you to stay a little longer to chat less sucky due to exhausting all topics! Oh yeah! I did that this time and it was great! Plus at the end of his loyalty mission, if you don't use the Heart, you do the greeting properly and he says you've been practicing. It just makes their meeting up to that point come full circle in a perfect way because it all started with that awkward handshake and now they have fallen in love with each other. Ohhh damn why did I use the heart! Ahh well, I'm on another replay anyway, - still crafting that perfect 'me' style save in prep for the next instalment, so I can do it then! BTW let it be said that I love you LC for finding so much stuff that I missed
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Post by PenDev0us on May 21, 2017 19:48:37 GMT
So do I! He's just the best! That sweet smile in the opening scene just wins me over. Not romantically though. He's the bro Sara needs while her own bro is recovering, and he's so good to her and Jaal that he even helps him with erogenous zone tips lol Talk about being friendzoned! Or, rather, bro zoned. He is too perfect as a bro to romance. Although I keep thinking that in real like Liam would be the type of guy I could actually imagine having a romance with. Them hanging out at the couch with some beer and inane chatter about life - to me, the whole expressions and body language was showing "comfortable". Anyway, Liam needs an Angara girlfriend. He'd fit right in Same here, the whole getting a boyfriend/girlfriend thing makes me squick, I'm a much better at being a friend that I will/could ever be as a lover, so a chill more of a bro kinda romance would hook me like a fish Doesn't stop me loving the mushy genre romances with games/books though! *eyeballs Jaal*
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Post by PenDev0us on May 21, 2017 19:51:02 GMT
While I was struggling getting the first "friendly/flirt" signs from Jaal, the game kept proposing me options of flirt with Liam, like ALL THE TIME. Almost like if the game was screaming "Please romance Liam! please please!! look that alien is not kind with you, take Liam instead! he wants you!" I always take Jaal in my missions, and in the Nomad he is always the one to talk first. I'm not complaining, I love hearing his party banter. But he's always the one starting the conversations, I wonder if the game detects I'm taking him more frequently for missions to they launch his conversations in priority? I got the "killing in your sleep" threat when I met him "Casual" tone is the one with the head and the heart? I don't always pick this one, it depends if I feel that being too emotive will bring mockery from the people I'm talking with or not. Yeah at the start Liam is the obvious choice, but the game deters you if you are thorough lol Jaal is curious and wants to learn, so he talks a lot lol Head with heart is Emotional The gear symbol is Logical The swirls below the emotional one is Casual The swirls below the logical one is Professional Took forever to get the hang of that haha Yeah even though at the start of the game it literally TELLS you what each symbol is, my brain went "Wait what? Am I being funny? Smart?!" the second it was gone~
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 21, 2017 19:51:29 GMT
Woooooah woah hold up, missed that for sure! When does this happen? After the Kett facility. He sees the Asari as no different than the Kett. They reproduce using genetics and every child looks like an Asari. Turned him right off.
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Post by yeah rip on May 21, 2017 19:51:34 GMT
Yeah, when I found out he was offered the special position my heart sank, plus flashbacks of Solas, Dorian, and one of my divine Cass play through's flashed through my mind a bit. I thought it was going to be the moment that he parted ways with us, leaving the romance bittersweet and I thought at the time, who would my Sara be to hold him back if it made him happy? Let's just say I'm very glad that he pleasantly surprised me. Also the guy is smooth, I loved that "what I need" line. Is it just me or did he drag that out on purpose? He never hinted he wasn't taking it and then acted surprised when Ryder says they can return to Aya. It feels like he was trolling me, just to see how much I cared. It was pretty obvious to me that he was just trolling her Hope he made it up to her later.
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Post by PenDev0us on May 21, 2017 19:52:28 GMT
If you romance Liam though, Jaal is so supportive and even asks when you'll have kids! Jaal would be the Godfather of Liam ad I's kid no question about it! He'd be Godfather for sure! But I could totally see him vetting for 'uncle' regardless
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Post by PenDev0us on May 21, 2017 19:54:25 GMT
Saw the title, IMMEDIATELY THOUGHT OF THIS
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Post by PenDev0us on May 21, 2017 19:55:25 GMT
He'd be Godfather for sure! But I could totally see him vetting for 'uncle' regardless I kind of want that to be Gil since I'm the aunt of his kid haha I'm still on the fence as to whether Gil can/should name a child or not~
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Post by vana on May 21, 2017 19:57:01 GMT
I use a bit of every kind of answer (logical, emotional, etc) depending on the situation. My Ryder can diversify depending on her mood What wrong happens if you use the "heart" at the end of Jaal's LM? if we get a kiss instead of a handshake I'll take the kiss (anyway as I said I didn't get the handshake the first time so it doesn't matter). I like when Jaal is asking all these questions to everyone, he's so curious, it's cute. I guess it was discussed here many times but some people are playing with the flycam and of course naked Jaal didn't have any "sex" modelized. So are Angara male really without anything or we just don't get to see it (because it's censored of course)?
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Post by beholderess on May 21, 2017 19:58:22 GMT
Yes, Scott will have to compete harder for the "beloved idiot little brother" place now YA SNOOZE YA LOSE BUDDY! I kind of feel for the twin. I have the impression that Sara at the start of the game is pretty much alone in the world - father just died and been distant before, mother dead, all friends and colleagues left behind, twin in coma - and that the game pretty much explicitely intends her to find a family in her crew. They do develop a rather particular dynamic - eldest sister Cora, responsible middle sister Vetra, annoying but lovable little sister Peebee, little brother Liam, grandfather Drack, beloved Jaal, plus Sid, Kesh and Jaal's whole extended family thrown into mix. How would poor twin find his place into that dynamic, I have no idea.
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Post by Roxy on May 21, 2017 20:00:41 GMT
I love Liam and Jaal's friendship. It's Awesome. In real life I'd go for Jaal. He's my type. Which I already have going on 12 years now. My Husband. I have been trying to play Scott here lately but every time I start playing him I want to go back to playing sara. Also I just bought Subnautica. I have been watching Markiplier play it and it looks fun.
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Post by beholderess on May 21, 2017 20:02:07 GMT
If you romance Liam though, Jaal is so supportive and even asks when you'll have kids! Jaal would be the Godfather of Liam ad I's kid no question about it! Yes, in any configuration they remain bros, and I love it so much. Liam/Jaal and Drack/Vetra are my favourite crew relationships. Kallo/Suvi is also nice. Liam and Jaal are brothers in all but blood, and Drack basically adopts Vetra, who looks at him as an old man she and Sid never had.
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Post by PenDev0us on May 21, 2017 20:03:02 GMT
Yeah even though at the start of the game it literally TELLS you what each symbol is, my brain went "Wait what? Am I being funny? Smart?!" the second it was gone~ Then we have the 2 people holding hands. That's Sara/Jaal only and the Heart for flirting. I also noticed the choices change depending on previous things. If you talk to Kesh before meeting Drack you get Emotional and Logical choices to his being on his own. If you don't talk to her, you get Casual and Professional choices instead. Now that did bug me, with the whole 'you only get two choices' thing... I get that in some instances its either a yes/no kinda deal, but some of those choices I wish had the option to chose from all 4... but I have steered away from as many of the professional and logical choices as possible, purely because I like my main femRyder to be a bumbling goof. But now that I've been goofing around in character creation for a bit, I think I've made a Ryder that looks the type to be professional/logical and a biotic. Which is literally all the things I never play in ME. So that'll definitely be fun when I get to it! It's also the one I'm gunna use to save Sloane, piss off all the Krogans, keep the AI... just a load of bad moves all round. YAY
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Post by PenDev0us on May 21, 2017 20:04:33 GMT
I love Liam and Jaal's friendship. It's Awesome. In real life I'd go for Jaal. He's my type. Which I already have going on 12 years now. My Husband. I have been trying to play Scott here lately but every time I start playing him I want to go back to playing sara. Also I just bought Subnautica. I have been watching Markiplier play it and it looks fun. Subnautica is AMAZING! And terrifying... very very terrifying
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Post by Roxy on May 21, 2017 20:06:31 GMT
I love Liam and Jaal's friendship. It's Awesome. In real life I'd go for Jaal. He's my type. Which I already have going on 12 years now. My Husband. I have been trying to play Scott here lately but every time I start playing him I want to go back to playing sara. Also I just bought Subnautica. I have been watching Markiplier play it and it looks fun. Subnautica is AMAZING! And terrifying... very very terrifyingIt does look terrifying. I'm binge watching Markiplier's pt on it while my game installs. The guy is hilarious.
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Post by PenDev0us on May 21, 2017 20:07:39 GMT
I kind of feel for the twin. I have the impression that Sara at the start of the game is pretty much alone in the world - father just died and been distant before, mother dead, all friends and colleagues left behind, twin in coma - and that the game pretty much explicitely intends her to find a family in her crew. They do develop a rather particular dynamic - eldest sister Cora, responsible middle sister Vetra, annoying but lovable little sister Peebee, little brother Liam, grandfather Drack, beloved Jaal, plus Sid, Kesh and Jaal's whole extended family thrown into mix. How would poor twin find his place into that dynamic, I have no idea. Yeah the one thing bugging me with the whole mother thing was at the end when its all LOL JK WE CAN SAVE HER IN ANDROMEDA~ Wasn't she very very close to death? To the point that taking her out of cryo would kill her? I'm no doctor but to me that sounds like no matter what cure you find, she'd dead either way. There would be way too much internal damage.
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Post by PenDev0us on May 21, 2017 20:08:27 GMT
Subnautica is AMAZING! And terrifying... very very terrifyingIt does look terrifying. I'm binge watching Markiplier's pt on it while my game installs. The guy is hilarious. He is~ though I get the feeling that his fear of the ocean isn't as bad as it used to be!
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Post by beholderess on May 21, 2017 20:27:41 GMT
I kind of feel for the twin. I have the impression that Sara at the start of the game is pretty much alone in the world - father just died and been distant before, mother dead, all friends and colleagues left behind, twin in coma - and that the game pretty much explicitely intends her to find a family in her crew. They do develop a rather particular dynamic - eldest sister Cora, responsible middle sister Vetra, annoying but lovable little sister Peebee, little brother Liam, grandfather Drack, beloved Jaal, plus Sid, Kesh and Jaal's whole extended family thrown into mix. How would poor twin find his place into that dynamic, I have no idea. Yeah the one thing bugging me with the whole mother thing was at the end when its all LOL JK WE CAN SAVE HER IN ANDROMEDA~ Wasn't she very very close to death? To the point that taking her out of cryo would kill her? I'm no doctor but to me that sounds like no matter what cure you find, she'd dead either way. There would be way too much internal damage. Also, I feel for SAM. The way he says "I failed" when he describes Ellen's death. To create a being, give him a purpose and let him think that he has failed at the one thing he was created for? Alec clearly wasn't considering SAM's mental wellbeing. A lesser AI would have gone rogue and attempted to reanimate Ellen as a huskified corpse or something. Good thing that SAM is resilient.
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Post by beholderess on May 21, 2017 20:39:20 GMT
I haven't seen any of this yet with Ellen. Still need to get around to getting the rest of the memory triggers collected. I like sharing them with Lexi. She's very insightful regarding them! Being a psychologist is above her paygrade, especially with most of the crew being determined to avoid her
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Post by Psychedelic on May 21, 2017 20:40:01 GMT
Yeah the one thing bugging me with the whole mother thing was at the end when its all LOL JK WE CAN SAVE HER IN ANDROMEDA~ Wasn't she very very close to death? To the point that taking her out of cryo would kill her? I'm no doctor but to me that sounds like no matter what cure you find, she'd dead either way. There would be way too much internal damage. Also, I feel for SAM. The way he says "I failed" when he describes Ellen's death. To create a being, give him a purpose and let him think that he has failed at the one thing he was created for? Alec clearly wasn't considering SAM's mental wellbeing. A lesser AI would have gone rogue and attempted to reanimate Ellen as a huskified corpse or something. Good thing that SAM is resilient. SAM has lots of time to find a cure. I mean, he is technically immortal and if cryo for 600 years is possible what do a few more centuries matter? Just wouldn't be nice for her to wake up then with not only Alec dead and several centuries passed, but her kids possibly died of old age by then. Oh wait, I forgot to mention you are in a entirely different galaxy on top of that! Thanks, Alec.
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