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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 16:06:46 GMT
Just completed the Reyes romance and beat the game on Narrative just for kicks and to see if other romances were just as good... ugh! I'm sorry but the ending felt so empty without a kiss with Jaal at Meridian. The game itself feels empty if Sara and Jaal aren't in a romance. Weird but at least I tried something new. yeah rip look at him holding her head in a gentle caress and the love in his eyes as he kisses her. He's too perfect!
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Post by lilyenachaos on May 25, 2017 16:52:52 GMT
Just completed the Reyes romance and beat the game on Narrative just for kicks and to see if other romances were just as good... ugh! I'm sorry but the ending felt so empty without a kiss with Jaal at Meridian. The game itself feels empty if Sara and Jaal aren't in a romance. Weird but at least I tried something new. yeah rip look at him holding her head in a gentle caress and the love in his eyes as he kisses her. He's too perfect! This is the trouble with the romances, I think. It's not that they're bad, or that the other characters aren't likable. It's that they aren't Jaal. Aside from his personality (which I like), his character is so central to...everything, in the game. I've really enjoyed both the Suvi & Reyes romances, but I haven't completed those games because it feels like too much is missing. It's almost a bad thing, in a way.
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Just completed the Reyes romance and beat the game on Narrative just for kicks and to see if other romances were just as good... ugh! I'm sorry but the ending felt so empty without a kiss with Jaal at Meridian. The game itself feels empty if Sara and Jaal aren't in a romance. Weird but at least I tried something new. yeah rip look at him holding her head in a gentle caress and the love in his eyes as he kisses her. He's too perfect! This is the trouble with the romances, I think. It's not that they're bad, or that the other characters aren't likable. It's that they aren't Jaal. Aside from his personality (which I like), his character is so central to...everything, in the game. I've really enjoyed both the Suvi & Reyes romances, but I haven't completed those games because it feels like too much is missing. It's almost a bad thing, in a way. I actually felt that way with Garrus too. He may only be a romance in the second game, but his friendship with Shepard and the bond they form no matter how awful you try to play Shepard, makes them connect deeply and it feels strange if they're not together. Surprisingly I don't get that feeling with DA. I romanced Solas and yes it works best for the plot, but I can go without romancing him and it doesn't feel the same as it does with Garrus and Jaal. If anything, Varric being a LI would have made more sense for Hawke.
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Post by lilyenachaos on May 25, 2017 17:25:54 GMT
This is the trouble with the romances, I think. It's not that they're bad, or that the other characters aren't likable. It's that they aren't Jaal. Aside from his personality (which I like), his character is so central to...everything, in the game. I've really enjoyed both the Suvi & Reyes romances, but I haven't completed those games because it feels like too much is missing. It's almost a bad thing, in a way. I actually felt that way with Garrus too. He may only be a romance in the second game, but his friendship with Shepard and the bond they form no matter how awful you try to play Shepard, makes them connect deeply and it feels strange if they're not together. Surprisingly I don't get that feeling with DA. I romanced Solas and yes it works best for the plot, but I can go without romancing him and it doesn't feel the same as it does with Garrus and Jaal. If anything, Varric being a LI would have made more sense for Hawke. You bring up a good point about DAI, but even though Solas is central to the plot you don't really know how central until Trespasser. I didn't feel like I was missing out on anything by romancing Bull, or Cullen, or Sera. Maybe it's to the DAI teams' credit that they did such a good job with ALL of the romances that none of them feel like they're lacking. With Garrus, I think a lot of my liking of his romance is because A. He's a great character, and B. He's there in all the games. Unlike say...Thane, or even Kaidan. His support and friendship is always there for Shep.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 17:31:24 GMT
I actually felt that way with Garrus too. He may only be a romance in the second game, but his friendship with Shepard and the bond they form no matter how awful you try to play Shepard, makes them connect deeply and it feels strange if they're not together. Surprisingly I don't get that feeling with DA. I romanced Solas and yes it works best for the plot, but I can go without romancing him and it doesn't feel the same as it does with Garrus and Jaal. If anything, Varric being a LI would have made more sense for Hawke. You bring up a good point about DAI, but even though Solas is central to the plot you don't really know how central until Trespasser. I didn't feel like I was missing out on anything by romancing Bull, or Cullen, or Sera. Maybe it's to the DAI teams' credit that they did such a good job with ALL of the romances that none of them feel like they're lacking. With Garrus, I think a lot of my liking of his romance is because A. He's a great character, and B. He's there in all the games. Unlike say...Thane, or even Kaidan. His support and friendship is always there for Shep. Yeah with DAI I never felt a romance was wrong, just different. With ME I feel like there's a certain way to go about it to get the most out of the game, and that's with Garrus and Jaal. Yep! Garrus stayed true to Shepard and even tried to talk Kaidan out of his way of thinking on Horizon. He won me over long ago and was Shepard's best friend and lover. Jaal is actually similar that way. He becomes a loyal friend and even if you do things he doesn't like, he forgives you and he's always by your side no matter what.
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on May 25, 2017 18:15:23 GMT
Just completed the Reyes romance and beat the game on Narrative just for kicks and to see if other romances were just as good... ugh! I'm sorry but the ending felt so empty without a kiss with Jaal at Meridian. The game itself feels empty if Sara and Jaal aren't in a romance. Weird but at least I tried something new. yeah rip look at him holding her head in a gentle caress and the love in his eyes as he kisses her. He's too perfect! This is the trouble with the romances, I think. It's not that they're bad, or that the other characters aren't likable. It's that they aren't Jaal. Aside from his personality (which I like), his character is so central to...everything, in the game. I've really enjoyed both the Suvi & Reyes romances, but I haven't completed those games because it feels like too much is missing. It's almost a bad thing, in a way. Definitely is a drawback of ME:A. But I don't think it has to be, I just think it was in this game. Romanceable NPCs can be central to the plot of the game (Solas, Anders, Alistair, Morrigan, Liara) without their romance being necessary to understand or enjoy the game. But IMO, as much as I like Jaal, his content ate up too much of the word budget, and left too little for the rest of the cast to do.
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Post by kestrel on May 25, 2017 18:21:53 GMT
The balance in ME:A felt slightly off, going off what Sable said. I liked Jaal a lot, but I almost feel like I would sacrifice some Jaal for more solid world building, or a more even romance for every gender/orientation. Their hyperfocus on Jaal and Cora didn't really do the game any favors- they have two strong romances, but they're only strong if you're playing a very specific protagonist, and it leaves the rest of them feeling lacking for everyone else.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 18:29:23 GMT
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on May 25, 2017 18:46:08 GMT
That's what I'm for, soothing nerves and writing manifestos, hahaha. As for kids... in this instance, I think as long as you trust yourself and you're guided by a framework you trust, you can't go too far wrong. Plus, an AI isn't quite the same kind of separate identity as a child is in that way, there is a lot of pre-existing understanding and context that an AI can possess that a child cannot, not to mention that your relationship is founded on cooperation; if SAM doesn't understand something, he asks you about it without any kind of emotional issues and sensitivities, so you have opportunities to discuss it and explain yourself - and thereby SAM is also an excellent self-discovery tool, because you learn way more about yourself and who you are, who you want to be when you are an example to someone (or something). I'm really curious about the turian SAM, too - I'd love it if they included way more details about that, especially considering that Avitus himself is grieving... although perhaps they can both heal each other with time. Still, the idea is very intriguing and it suggests a much more organic quality to SAM's... soul? Consciousness? Whatever we want to call it; just like in DA the Tranquil are still people despite having no emotions and having no dreams, SAM strikes me as someone like that. But then, I think my favorite illustration of what I imagine an AI's interpretation of the world "emotionally" is Data from STNG - I believe the term he uses is that he becomes "used to" people, a memory pathway that is constantly refreshed like a well-trodden path. It's not exactly feeling, yet, if you examine what the base definition of human emotion is, there are striking similarities. So I would imagine that an AI is totally capable of evolving emotion. Does this unit have a soul? For all my fear of evil AI at times, I did have a huge attachment to Legion and the geth. I can see myself really loving sam in consecutive games if given some more time. I sort of liked Edi in ME2 but kind of lost my attachment to her once they put her in a body for some reason. Avitus was a really interesting character for the short amount of time he was given, at least imo. I'm hoping we will be able to find out more about him and his Sam's relationship in a nice DLC and it could make up for how short the Turian ark mission was. I don't want anything bad to happen with him because the poor guy doesn't need anymore drama, but it just seems too interesting to sweep under the rug completely. This was phenomenal.....lol I screamed out noooooo like a lame Darth Vader when Akksul got shot though. You always leave me wanting more at the end. Sorry everyone that I'm not a round as much, just busy but I'll try to keep up from time to time. You're all awesome.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on May 25, 2017 19:00:45 GMT
This is the trouble with the romances, I think. It's not that they're bad, or that the other characters aren't likable. It's that they aren't Jaal. Aside from his personality (which I like), his character is so central to...everything, in the game. I've really enjoyed both the Suvi & Reyes romances, but I haven't completed those games because it feels like too much is missing. It's almost a bad thing, in a way. Definitely is a drawback of ME:A. But I don't think it has to be, I just think it was in this game. Romanceable NPCs can be central to the plot of the game (Solas, Anders, Alistair, Morrigan, Liara) without their romance being necessary to understand or enjoy the game. But IMO, as much as I like Jaal, his content ate up too much of the word budget, and left too little for the rest of the cast to do. I'm wondering what happened with the pacing in Andromeda because there are times for me that even Jaal and Cora felt like they were missing something to say (even though they clearly got the most). Romances was something that DAI was really good with imo, not only with the equality issue but pacing. I never felt any of them lacking in inquisition, even with Solas who had the least in the base game, It's weird.
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Post by Gwyvian on May 25, 2017 21:18:55 GMT
Time for a massive Gwyvian post! Off topic: ran into Triss in Novigrad. Auuuugh why does this game make my life so difficult?! Welcome to indecision hell. We've got both Triss and Yen-shaped cookies. This is the trouble with the romances, I think. It's not that they're bad, or that the other characters aren't likable. It's that they aren't Jaal. Aside from his personality (which I like), his character is so central to...everything, in the game. I've really enjoyed both the Suvi & Reyes romances, but I haven't completed those games because it feels like too much is missing. It's almost a bad thing, in a way. I actually felt that way with Garrus too. He may only be a romance in the second game, but his friendship with Shepard and the bond they form no matter how awful you try to play Shepard, makes them connect deeply and it feels strange if they're not together. Surprisingly I don't get that feeling with DA. I romanced Solas and yes it works best for the plot, but I can go without romancing him and it doesn't feel the same as it does with Garrus and Jaal. If anything, Varric being a LI would have made more sense for Hawke. I dunno, I played every major romance in MET and I felt like Garrus, Tali and Liara are all like that. I know Liara isn't with you in ME2, but she's around - if you have Lair of the Shadowbroker that sweet reunion packs a powerful punch if you're romancing her, especially since she's a character you can romance from the beginning(!), unlike Garrus or Tali, which you can't do with any of the others except Kaidan/Ashley. Tali is totally on par with Garrus, though of course that's a male!Shep exclusive romance so... I'm not into Kaidan so much, though I like his character, and I loathe Ashley, so that probably influences my viewpoint, but even there they are LI's for two full games and even in ME2 they're around, though I get that them not having your back in ME2 makes them kind of shaky that way - still, they were there from the beginning, too. So I wouldn't say Garrus is the central romance of MET, no matter how much I love him, at the very least Tali is just as central, even if you want to exclude Liara (who is, as far as I'm concerned, the ME equivalent of romancing Varric, she's the one who compiles your story to preserve through the ages, she's also very deeply involved with your whole story because of her background with prothean archeology and therefore the only person who can help you piece together the most mysterious aspect of your life during the trilogy, plus she's the one who saves you when you die in ME2). I do feel, however, totally left out when I don't romance either Garrus or Tali usually, I'll admit that. But Liara's romance was the only one that could tear me away from one of those two. I agree about DA though, the balance is nice and even there with romances, although I would say that the game is experienced totally differently if you romance Solas in a way that's not really true about any of the others, just because every interaction with Solas seems to challenge everything about your Inquisitor's past and identity, you don't know why, but it's still there. The whole history of the elves is rewritten in your mind based on what he says, but if he's your LI, you get a way more up close and personal slap in the face about it; the valeslin is a huge thing in DA, for example. I feel like the game was made for a female elf Inquisitor romancing Solas, tbh, though only as a first playthrough - the content is totally equal (and even more in some ways) if you romance/play others, so yeah, DA is nice and balanced. That's what I'm for, soothing nerves and writing manifestos, hahaha. As for kids... in this instance, I think as long as you trust yourself and you're guided by a framework you trust, you can't go too far wrong. Plus, an AI isn't quite the same kind of separate identity as a child is in that way, there is a lot of pre-existing understanding and context that an AI can possess that a child cannot, not to mention that your relationship is founded on cooperation; if SAM doesn't understand something, he asks you about it without any kind of emotional issues and sensitivities, so you have opportunities to discuss it and explain yourself - and thereby SAM is also an excellent self-discovery tool, because you learn way more about yourself and who you are, who you want to be when you are an example to someone (or something). I'm really curious about the turian SAM, too - I'd love it if they included way more details about that, especially considering that Avitus himself is grieving... although perhaps they can both heal each other with time. Still, the idea is very intriguing and it suggests a much more organic quality to SAM's... soul? Consciousness? Whatever we want to call it; just like in DA the Tranquil are still people despite having no emotions and having no dreams, SAM strikes me as someone like that. But then, I think my favorite illustration of what I imagine an AI's interpretation of the world "emotionally" is Data from STNG - I believe the term he uses is that he becomes "used to" people, a memory pathway that is constantly refreshed like a well-trodden path. It's not exactly feeling, yet, if you examine what the base definition of human emotion is, there are striking similarities. So I would imagine that an AI is totally capable of evolving emotion. Does this unit have a soul? For all my fear of evil AI at times, I did have a huge attachment to Legion and the geth. I can see myself really loving sam in consecutive games if given some more time. I sort of liked Edi in ME2 but kind of lost my attachment to her once they put her in a body for some reason. Avitus was a really interesting character for the short amount of time he was given, at least imo. I'm hoping we will be able to find out more about him and his Sam's relationship in a nice DLC and it could make up for how short the Turian ark mission was. I don't want anything bad to happen with him because the poor guy doesn't need anymore drama, but it just seems too interesting to sweep under the rug completely. This was phenomenal.....lol I screamed out noooooo like a lame Darth Vader when Akksul got shot though. You always leave me wanting more at the end. Sorry everyone that I'm not a round as much, just busy but I'll try to keep up from time to time. Your all awesome. Hahaha, good, good. Man, I so love Legion and the geth. They were truly fascinating in so many ways, that whole questline in ME3 with the quarians and the geth was just heartbreaking and amazing, still my absolute favorite major mission/side mission group. I think EDI kind of loses that charm because she becomes an actual person, from the perspective of AI her evolution is quite fascinating, but because she was anthropomorphized so much, it's a little difficult to see past that and realize that she is an AI in the first place. I mean, a metallic body is kind of a giveaway, hahaha, but still - she seems and talks just like any other crew member, which can make you forget that technically she is your ship. Even her whole relationship with Joker reinforces that; I get why she was taken down that route, if you look at it this way, she and Legion are going to be the faces you think of at the end when you make your choice about destroying/etc. the Reapers and all synthetic life; EDI being an actual team member really takes that to a new level, because you would be essentially killing her. Still, from the point of view of AI she's just past that point where you even think about the alien quality to her thinking (because she simulates human responses/thoughts/emotions to the point where you can only distinguish it technically) or the consequences of her existence (she's clearly a stable entity - although there is no absolute guarantee, you are still kind of in unexplored territory). Oh, yeah, poor Avitus... he doesn't need any more beatings from the story - but I'd definitely like to see more of him and his SAM, there is waaaaay too little content at this point.
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Post by beholderess on May 25, 2017 21:19:15 GMT
Just completed the Reyes romance and beat the game on Narrative just for kicks and to see if other romances were just as good... ugh! I'm sorry but the ending felt so empty without a kiss with Jaal at Meridian. The game itself feels empty if Sara and Jaal aren't in a romance. Weird but at least I tried something new. yeah rip look at him holding her head in a gentle caress and the love in his eyes as he kisses her. He's too perfect! That's the reason I go for Jaal romance - it is not just about Ryder's personal life, but very much about the people united. Like it or not, we are representatives, and closing credits just aren't full without this particular kiss
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Post by beholderess on May 25, 2017 21:21:23 GMT
Off topic: ran into Triss in Novigrad. Auuuugh why does this game make my life so difficult?! Since I have read the books back when they were first published (in Russian - Russia got the translation much earlier than the English-speaking world), to me there was no indecision - Yen is canon
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Post by Gwyvian on May 25, 2017 21:26:09 GMT
Off topic: ran into Triss in Novigrad. Auuuugh why does this game make my life so difficult?! Since I have read the books back when they were first published (in Russian - Russia got the translation much earlier than the English-speaking world), to me there was no indecision - Yen is canon I read the books and I agree Yen is canon, YET... Triss is just so awesome in the game. In 2 and 3 at least. (And I have a weakness for redheads with high cheekbones.)
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 21:30:45 GMT
Just completed the Reyes romance and beat the game on Narrative just for kicks and to see if other romances were just as good... ugh! I'm sorry but the ending felt so empty without a kiss with Jaal at Meridian. The game itself feels empty if Sara and Jaal aren't in a romance. Weird but at least I tried something new. yeah rip look at him holding her head in a gentle caress and the love in his eyes as he kisses her. He's too perfect! That's the reason I go for Jaal romance - it is not just about Ryder's personal life, but very much about the people united. Like it or not, we are representatives, and closing credits just aren't full without this particular kiss Out of all the ending kisses, it's more about how he picks her up in his arms as they celebrate their victory that really gets me. Gwyvian I don't romance females, and I don't really like Liara. People say Jaal is the new Liara, forced on you, but if I romance another he doesn't try to hit on me like it feels like she does, though she doesn't really if you know what I mean? Like she made me feel as if I was cheating on her, but Jaal doesn't do that. Also poor Ian just said on Twitter that the media won't let him tell us when the m/m patch will be out.
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Post by beholderess on May 25, 2017 21:34:53 GMT
Since I have read the books back when they were first published (in Russian - Russia got the translation much earlier than the English-speaking world), to me there was no indecision - Yen is canon I read the books and I agree Yen is canon, YET... Triss is just so awesome in the game. In 2 and 3 at least. (And I have a weakness for redheads with high cheekbones.) I like Triss a lot. I just really wanted to give these two a happy ending, finally. Also, Triss looks exactly how I tend to make my own female characters look by default - and has a similar personality. Which is, on one side, great, but on the other - I can't romance myself
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Post by beholderess on May 25, 2017 22:00:25 GMT
You bring up a good point about DAI, but even though Solas is central to the plot you don't really know how central until Trespasser. I didn't feel like I was missing out on anything by romancing Bull, or Cullen, or Sera. Maybe it's to the DAI teams' credit that they did such a good job with ALL of the romances that none of them feel like they're lacking. With Garrus, I think a lot of my liking of his romance is because A. He's a great character, and B. He's there in all the games. Unlike say...Thane, or even Kaidan. His support and friendship is always there for Shep. Yeah with DAI I never felt a romance was wrong, just different. With ME I feel like there's a certain way to go about it to get the most out of the game, and that's with Garrus and Jaal. Yep! Garrus stayed true to Shepard and even tried to talk Kaidan out of his way of thinking on Horizon. He won me over long ago and was Shepard's best friend and lover. Jaal is actually similar that way. He becomes a loyal friend and even if you do things he doesn't like, he forgives you and he's always by your side no matter what. Exactly why I love Garrus and why he feels like the only "true" option. Steadfast and loyal. Also, I think that the fact that his romance only activated in the second game kind of helped it to feel true - it was a genuine evolution of already close friends, companions and comrades, not just a sudden bout of passion.
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Post by beholderess on May 25, 2017 22:02:19 GMT
I agree with everything you guys said, and I want to add Liam deserved better. Seriously, you can't tease us with those abs and then don't do a proper scene
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Hey guys if you have trouble with Sara preset 9's eyes, put the setting at 18! It looks odd in the CC but animates with natural looking eyes!
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 22:06:17 GMT
OMG SO HAPPY!!!
Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon You can customize both twins individually, and the dad will automatically resemble you (to an extent).
P de Pancetta @moskafleur Emmm no? we're both caucasians and my dad is black xD i don't understand
Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon There was a bug with head #9, unfortunately. It will be fixed alongside various other character creation improvements in an upcoming patch.
P de Pancetta @moskafleur Really?! When?!
Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon I can't say, sorry. PR gets to poke me with the cattle prod if I give out dates.
P de Pancetta @moskafleur Right... But I was about to start a new game, should I wait for the update or should I just play it because it's going to take months?
Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon It will be sooner than "months" but I'm afraid I can't be more specific than that, sorry. Cattle prod.
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Post by lilyenachaos on May 25, 2017 22:20:46 GMT
OMG SO HAPPY!!! Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon You can customize both twins individually, and the dad will automatically resemble you (to an extent). P de Pancetta @moskafleur Emmm no? we're both caucasians and my dad is black xD i don't understand Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon There was a bug with head #9, unfortunately. It will be fixed alongside various other character creation improvements in an upcoming patch. P de Pancetta @moskafleur Really?! When?! Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon I can't say, sorry. PR gets to poke me with the cattle prod if I give out dates. P de Pancetta @moskafleur Right... But I was about to start a new game, should I wait for the update or should I just play it because it's going to take months? Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon It will be sooner than "months" but I'm afraid I can't be more specific than that, sorry. Cattle prod. I mean...I guess it's good they acknowledged that there IS a bug, but this is just another thing they should have caught before launch. :oki: Good thing I don't really care what Sr. looks like, since he's barely in the game.
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on May 25, 2017 22:21:30 GMT
I'm wondering what happened with the pacing in Andromeda because there are times for me that even Jaal and Cora felt like they were missing something to say (even though they clearly got the most) Cora, definitely. And I think that, unfortunately, she's in the same boat as Jack, Thane, and several other ME characters where you don't get nearly as much of the character through the friendship route as you do through the romance. Which is...auuuuuugh, so FRUSTRATING. I *know* they can write friendship routes that are as good as their romance ones. They just don't for some of the ME cast, for whatever bizarre reason. I think Jaal's problem is a little different from Cora's. He's an alien, so it feels like he should chip in on more things, and take longer to get to know Ryder and co. But a) the banter bug ruins that pacing and Jaal already has so much dialogue that giving him MORE doesn't really feel like it's solving the problem. IMO it's more that his word budget is misplaced. We have a huge banter chain about him snoring with Peebee in the Nomad, yet he doesn't talk much about things like his experience of first contact, differences between how he fights in the Resistance vs. the Initiative, SAM, or many other topics where he should take an interest.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2017 22:21:59 GMT
OMG SO HAPPY!!! Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon You can customize both twins individually, and the dad will automatically resemble you (to an extent). P de Pancetta @moskafleur Emmm no? we're both caucasians and my dad is black xD i don't understand Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon There was a bug with head #9, unfortunately. It will be fixed alongside various other character creation improvements in an upcoming patch. P de Pancetta @moskafleur Really?! When?! Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon I can't say, sorry. PR gets to poke me with the cattle prod if I give out dates. P de Pancetta @moskafleur Right... But I was about to start a new game, should I wait for the update or should I just play it because it's going to take months? Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon It will be sooner than "months" but I'm afraid I can't be more specific than that, sorry. Cattle prod. I mean...I guess it's good they acknowledged that there IS a bug, but this is just another thing they should have caught before launch. :oki: Good thing I don't really care what Sr. looks like, since he's barely in the game. Haha I know right? I'm just happy we get improvements to the actual CC too!
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Post by lilyenachaos on May 25, 2017 22:27:39 GMT
I'm wondering what happened with the pacing in Andromeda because there are times for me that even Jaal and Cora felt like they were missing something to say (even though they clearly got the most) Cora, definitely. And I think that, unfortunately, she's in the same boat as Jack, Thane, and several other ME characters where you don't get nearly as much of the character through the friendship route as you do through the romance. Which is...auuuuuugh, so FRUSTRATING. I *know* they can write friendship routes that are as good as their romance ones. They just don't for some of the ME cast, for whatever bizarre reason. I think Jaal's problem is a little different from Cora's. He's an alien, so it feels like he should chip in on more things, and take longer to get to know Ryder and co. But a) the banter bug ruins that pacing and Jaal already has so much dialogue that giving him MORE doesn't really feel like it's solving the problem. IMO it's more that his word budget is misplaced. We have a huge banter chain about him snoring with Peebee in the Nomad, yet he doesn't talk much about things like his experience of first contact, differences between how he fights in the Resistance vs. the Initiative, SAM, or many other topics where he should take an interest.So much this! Less complimenting Cora on her body, and more asking her about how biotics work, ok BW?
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