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Post by Gwyvian on May 26, 2017 0:23:25 GMT
I'm really biased about ME3 because I adore that game so very much, all of it. With regard to Liara in ME3 - she becomes a different person, I saw her changes as a natural evolution of her character once she becomes the Shadowbroker, I mean, that's bound to change anyone. I especially liked her role in ME3 because she becomes this person with great power and influence,yet ultimately she is powerless to stop the Reapers from taking Thessia, plus the stress she goes through with Javik and his revelations; in general a lot of things which are important to her are callously turned upside down and I side out, I really feel for her because of this. But she's also incredibly strong and also remains warm and open with you despite all this hardship, that makes her a great character in my eyes. Kaidan - hahaha I got a confession from him my first PT and I was confused, like... what did I do?? But he was also really cool about it I think. So, you know I really love Jaal, but I think it's really classy when a character loves you and takes your rejection so well - Jaal does too, but you also feel like you just stabbed him with a knife, it's really painful to watch. It suits his character and the angara, but it makes me walk on eggshells around him if he's not the LI of choice. As a friend Liara grew on me, but it seems Mac did the Mars scene, and even Kaidan was off compared to how Kathleen wrote him if you are romancing him. They switch up the writers for different scenes, so we get a bit of a contradiction sometimes. Jaal is different though because you started it by flirting with him. Kaidan has always been in love with Shepard, so I think he's a first in BW romances to have always loved the PC no matter what. Anders would be a close second. I... never noticed that, to be honest. I mean, they have a change in tone here and there, but considering the changing circumstances I guess I just took it as natural that they would react a little differently here and there? To be fair, unless you've played MEA before or you've been surfing this thread, there's no reason whatsoever to assume that those "friendship tones" are anything more than just getting to know the angara, and him specifically, a little better - you are kind of set up for breaking his heart unless you know what you're doing, if you happen to casually take an innocent flirt option and then do his LM. Honestly though, you can read into pretty much every single character that they're interested in you and/or have always been in love with you, provided the gating is a match - since they're all inherently designed to be romance options... I mean, you can play in a style that puts them off, sure, but I've always felt a basic "availability" in all my companions if I chose to pursue something, even if their friendships are amazing if you leave the flirt options alone. I don't really know the dev details on any characters, but I've gotten that impression of always having been in love with your PC from multiple characters, not just those two (like Thane.... ugh, I really don't like the closet romance vibes I got from him).
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 0:28:05 GMT
As a friend Liara grew on me, but it seems Mac did the Mars scene, and even Kaidan was off compared to how Kathleen wrote him if you are romancing him. They switch up the writers for different scenes, so we get a bit of a contradiction sometimes. Jaal is different though because you started it by flirting with him. Kaidan has always been in love with Shepard, so I think he's a first in BW romances to have always loved the PC no matter what. Anders would be a close second. I... never noticed that, to be honest. I mean, they have a change in tone here and there, but considering the changing circumstances I guess I just took it as natural that they would react a little differently here and there? To be fair, unless you've played MEA before or you've been surfing this thread, there's no reason whatsoever to assume that those "friendship tones" are anything more than just getting to know the angara, and him specifically, a little better - you are kind of set up for breaking his heart unless you know what you're doing, if you happen to casually take an innocent flirt option and then do his LM. Honestly though, you can read into pretty much every single character that they're interested in you and/or have always been in love with you, provided the gating is a match - since they're all inherently designed to be romance options... I mean, you can play in a style that puts them off, sure, but I've always felt a basic "availability" in all my companions if I chose to pursue something, even if their friendships are amazing if you leave the flirt options alone. I don't really know the dev details on any characters, but I've gotten that impression of always having been in love with your PC from multiple characters, not just those two (like Thane.... ugh, I really don't like the closet romance vibes I got from him). Haha I study characters too hard. I saw those changes and found out about the different writers. I'm just silly like that! Yeah but Kaidan can't be discouraged unless you say "hey not interested" and I feel bad, but also weird because I never even treated him nicely lol and I'm curious, but what do you mean about Thane? beholderess I agree! I want to know more about them! I like Primus and think she'd be awesome as the next villain. They were a nice change from Cerberus and husks!
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on May 26, 2017 0:28:42 GMT
The thing is, you can expect to see your romanced character flirting a bit (not in front of you, but let's put that on Angara openness, but I'm not convinced) IF it is a character who is the Zevran/Peebee type. After all, you know what you sign for when you romance that kind of character (same goes with Iron Bull). But when you romance a character like, let's say, Alistair, Cullen, or Jaal, well I don't expect them to flirt just under the hero's nose if they are in couple, as they are supposed to be loyal/romantic types of characters. I guess it's also because the gamer who romances that type of character likes romantic/loyal types of romances and not seeing their romanced character flirt away/cheat/whatever. Of course someone is free to think that other people are attractive/beautiful (and they must be diplomatic about that), but openly flirting is something else entirely. You know what bothers me the most about this? Jaal gets so sulky if you flirt with Reyes (or anyone else I assume?), but then he goes and does the same. Even if it's playful and not serious, I think that just doesn't make sense, nor is it fair at all. If he is that kind of character, then make it even and don't have a problem with Ryder flirting with everyone in sight, if not, then take out those banter lines and give him friendship ones instead. Unless angara are unilaterally polygamous, in which case disclosure would have been nice. Assuming that DAI and MEA are similar in construction, the flirting while already in a relationship is probably a bug. Like how Josie and Rainier's flirts never shut down properly. Or how Ryder could continue more than one relationship before they patched it. Ryder never seems to catch any flack for being disloyal or dishonest for game options that only occur due to bugs. Personally, I don't think a different standard should be applied to the NPCs, and I'll only have a lower opinion of them if it turns out that the constant flirting was intentional.
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Post by fadburger on May 26, 2017 0:32:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 0:33:37 GMT
You know what bothers me the most about this? Jaal gets so sulky if you flirt with Reyes (or anyone else I assume?), but then he goes and does the same. Even if it's playful and not serious, I think that just doesn't make sense, nor is it fair at all. If he is that kind of character, then make it even and don't have a problem with Ryder flirting with everyone in sight, if not, then take out those banter lines and give him friendship ones instead. Unless angara are unilaterally polygamous, in which case disclosure would have been nice. Assuming that DAI and MEA are similar in construction, the flirting while already in a relationship is probably a bug. Like how Josie and Rainier's flirts never shut down properly. Or how Ryder could continue more than one relationship before they patched it. Ryder never seems to catch any flack for being disloyal or dishonest for game options that only occur due to bugs. Personally, I don't think a different standard should be applied to the NPCs, and I'll only have a lower opinion of them if it turns out that the constant flirting was intentional. I am pretty sure it's a bug. Jaal said Angara prefer loyal mates and PeeBee will not ask to fool around with you if you are already in a relationship, plus the heartbreak banter repeated 3 times in one of my playthroughs, so the banter cycles when it runs out. vana adorable!
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on May 26, 2017 0:34:11 GMT
Only Paragon FemShep IMO. Renegade to neutral FemShep ticks him off pretty easily.
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Post by vana on May 26, 2017 0:37:20 GMT
Assuming that DAI and MEA are similar in construction, the flirting while already in a relationship is probably a bug. Like how Josie and Rainier's flirts never shut down properly. Or how Ryder could continue more than one relationship before they patched it. Ryder never seems to catch any flack for being disloyal or dishonest for game options that only occur due to bugs. Personally, I don't think a different standard should be applied to the NPCs, and I'll only have a lower opinion of them if it turns out that the constant flirting was intentional. I am pretty sure it's a bug. Jaal said Angara prefer loyal mates and PeeBee will not ask to fool around with you if you are already in a relationship, plus the heartbreak banter repeated 3 times in one of my playthroughs, so the banter cycles when it runs out. vana adorable! Thanks You mean you broke Jaal's heart and then there was banter about it? o___o poor Jaal! I could not do such a thing to that pooor sweetie. and so, what do they say? do you have the quotes? When does he say that Angaras prefer loyal mates? (well I guess that humans too, but so many of them are not... -__-")
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2017 0:42:08 GMT
I am pretty sure it's a bug. Jaal said Angara prefer loyal mates and PeeBee will not ask to fool around with you if you are already in a relationship, plus the heartbreak banter repeated 3 times in one of my playthroughs, so the banter cycles when it runs out. vana adorable! Thanks You mean you broke Jaal's heart and then there was banter about it? o___o poor Jaal! I could not do such a thing to that pooor sweetie. and so, what do they say? do you have the quotes? When does he say that Angaras prefer loyal mates? (well I guess that humans too, but so many of them are not... -__-") Oh lol no the Allia chat with Drack. If you reject Jaal he acts like nothing ever happened between you in his room that night. If you romance Reyes, he is surprised you like that type. Sara asks if he's jealous and he says Angara prefer steadfast mates and Cora said Sara preferred bad boys, so Sara gets a bit miffed at Cora for telling Jaal that.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on May 26, 2017 0:42:11 GMT
The thing is, you can expect to see your romanced character flirting a bit (not in front of you, but let's put that on Angara openness, but I'm not convinced) IF it is a character who is the Zevran/Peebee type. After all, you know what you sign for when you romance that kind of character (same goes with Iron Bull). But when you romance a character like, let's say, Alistair, Cullen, or Jaal, well I don't expect them to flirt just under the hero's nose if they are in couple, as they are supposed to be loyal/romantic types of characters. I guess it's also because the gamer who romances that type of character likes romantic/loyal types of romances and not seeing their romanced character flirt away/cheat/whatever. Of course someone is free to think that other people are attractive/beautiful (and they must be diplomatic about that), but openly flirting is something else entirely. You know what bothers me the most about this? Jaal gets so sulky if you flirt with Reyes (or anyone else I assume?), but then he goes and does the same. Even if it's playful and not serious, I think that just doesn't make sense, nor is it fair at all. If he is that kind of character, then make it even and don't have a problem with Ryder flirting with everyone in sight, if not, then take out those banter lines and give him friendship ones instead. Unless angara are unilaterally polygamous, in which case disclosure would have been nice. That's really interesting and weird. Do you think it might have less to do with Ryder flirting with someone and more to do with the fact that it's Reyes? Maybe Jaal is shocked that Ryder is interested in the more shady scoundrel type? Especially since most Angara are so open and Reyes is more the type to hide things, maybe Jaal can't fathom Ryder liking someone like that. I hope I'm making sense. I'm really tired right now. Sable Rhapsody Good point about Jaal's resources maybe not going into the right areas, it really clicked when I read that. While I don't mind some of his flirty banter, if they cut a little of that out and put more into learning about Angara culture, it would've been a little better. I don't want it to seem like I'm complaining though, as I still love the cobra cat squid. Also, I just loaded up gwent and started playing it the other night, so now I know what you mean by it being really addicting, it's more addicting than in Witcher 3. Some of the cards confuse me though and I get my ass kicked.........but I love it.
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Post by vana on May 26, 2017 0:47:40 GMT
It's not "weird", it's quite usual to see men flirting or looking at other women but suddenly getting jealous if THEIR girlfriend/wife is looking at another man... they don't apply the rule to themselves, it's very selfish...
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Post by janalilith on May 26, 2017 0:47:55 GMT
I feel like there was more to Jaal's banter and personality but it was cut and they decided to make him focus on being a ladies man for some God forsake reason... I mean the first time Tom mentioned him he said he slays the ladies. I can't believe his character was just made to be like Zevran in a more PG-rated way. I don't mind a character being a ladies' man. It's a character trait like any other. I just wish they hadn't devoted so much word budget to it, not where holy crap NEW SPECIES NEW GALAXY CAN WE PLEASE TALK ABOUT THAT. It's sort of the inverse of Tali's problem in ME1. I love Tali, but being honest, in ME1 she didn't have a lot of personality of her own. She was basically a walking quarian codex entry, and she got better as the series went on. Jaal, on the other hand, I get to know very well as an individual. But he doesn't do a great job of teaching the player about the angara. Arguably, his primary narrative function should be to get us familiar with this new galaxy and new people, and he kinda sucks at that. The ambient chatter on Aya was a more useful source of information about the angara than Jaal was. He does say a lot about the Angara but it's stuff either he repeats a few times or something that someone else has said. There were times I did want to say, "All right. We get it. Angara are open with their feelings." I love that they are open with their feelings but by the 3rd mention I think I pretty much understood it. So they could have taken those things they wanted to apparently hammer in our brains and instead replaced them with new information we did not get in this game.
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Post by Gwyvian on May 26, 2017 0:50:00 GMT
I... never noticed that, to be honest. I mean, they have a change in tone here and there, but considering the changing circumstances I guess I just took it as natural that they would react a little differently here and there? To be fair, unless you've played MEA before or you've been surfing this thread, there's no reason whatsoever to assume that those "friendship tones" are anything more than just getting to know the angara, and him specifically, a little better - you are kind of set up for breaking his heart unless you know what you're doing, if you happen to casually take an innocent flirt option and then do his LM. Honestly though, you can read into pretty much every single character that they're interested in you and/or have always been in love with you, provided the gating is a match - since they're all inherently designed to be romance options... I mean, you can play in a style that puts them off, sure, but I've always felt a basic "availability" in all my companions if I chose to pursue something, even if their friendships are amazing if you leave the flirt options alone. I don't really know the dev details on any characters, but I've gotten that impression of always having been in love with your PC from multiple characters, not just those two (like Thane.... ugh, I really don't like the closet romance vibes I got from him). Haha I study characters too hard. I saw those changes and found out about the different writers. I'm just silly like that! Yeah but Kaidan can't be discouraged unless you say "hey not interested" and I feel bad, but also weird because I never even treated him nicely lol and I'm curious, but what do you mean about Thane? beholderess I agree! I want to know more about them! I like Primus and think she'd be awesome as the next villain. They were a nice change from Cerberus and husks! OK, so the obvious one - Siha. He calls you that no matter what, he just doesn't explain it unless you're romanced, and while it's not necessarily a romance-exclusive thing, from that moment onward I knew in my bones that he was fostering some secret affection the way he says "maybe I'll explain it one day". I enjoy the lost/hopeless love trope, but... he reminds me waaay too much of a crazy guy I dated IRL (I'm not exaggerating about the crazy), he's got this whole lone wolf secretly loving you thing going on that makes me roll my eyes, hard. But that's just me. Also some other things, even the fact - the way - that he lets you into these intimate details of his life seems far more... well, intimate, than not. Every single f!Shep playthrough I got the vibe from him that he's got feelings, but he's not going to act on them because 1. you didn't express interest and 2. he's dying. You know what bothers me the most about this? Jaal gets so sulky if you flirt with Reyes (or anyone else I assume?), but then he goes and does the same. Even if it's playful and not serious, I think that just doesn't make sense, nor is it fair at all. If he is that kind of character, then make it even and don't have a problem with Ryder flirting with everyone in sight, if not, then take out those banter lines and give him friendship ones instead. Unless angara are unilaterally polygamous, in which case disclosure would have been nice. Assuming that DAI and MEA are similar in construction, the flirting while already in a relationship is probably a bug. Like how Josie and Rainier's flirts never shut down properly. Or how Ryder could continue more than one relationship before they patched it. Ryder never seems to catch any flack for being disloyal or dishonest for game options that only occur due to bugs. Personally, I don't think a different standard should be applied to the NPCs, and I'll only have a lower opinion of them if it turns out that the constant flirting was intentional. I would think it's deliberate either, tbh - but in light of what I said earlier some of those comments I think are OK, just... yeah, if he really is that bothered by your Reyes flirting he shouldn't be exchanging long looks with Peebee (even if he does troll her) or admiring Cora's body (even if 2 lines later he says he thinks of her like a sister). But then again, they didn't fix this in either of the patches so far, nor has there been any indication that it's something they will fix, so...? Aww, nice!! I like your style! And I agree about Kaidan, as I said earlier I was a little taken aback when he suddenly ambushed me with this being in love with my Shep thing.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on May 26, 2017 0:51:25 GMT
This makes me think it's less of a jealousy issue with them and more of a I don't approve of Reyes issue . Then again, maybe what I'm saying is invalid since I tend to only flirt with the person I'm romancing. *shrugs*
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on May 26, 2017 0:51:40 GMT
No one on the (mostly) squeaky clean Tempest crew approves of a smuggler, scoundrel, and murderer
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No one on the (mostly) squeaky clean Tempest crew approves of a smuggler, scoundrel, and murderer We all dreamed of having our own Han Solo someday. Onecrazymonkey1 They are Sara's other two LI's though. Gwyvian ah... so it wasn't just me who go that vibe! I thought maybe because he was my first ME LI I was biased and seeing things that weren't there.
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Post by Gwyvian on May 26, 2017 1:01:36 GMT
Only Paragon FemShep IMO. Renegade to neutral FemShep ticks him off pretty easily. Mine was Paragrade with heavy leanings to Renegade... and I still got his confession. You know what bothers me the most about this? Jaal gets so sulky if you flirt with Reyes (or anyone else I assume?), but then he goes and does the same. Even if it's playful and not serious, I think that just doesn't make sense, nor is it fair at all. If he is that kind of character, then make it even and don't have a problem with Ryder flirting with everyone in sight, if not, then take out those banter lines and give him friendship ones instead. Unless angara are unilaterally polygamous, in which case disclosure would have been nice. That's really interesting and weird. Do you think it might have less to do with Ryder flirting with someone and more to do with the fact that it's Reyes? Maybe Jaal is shocked that Ryder is interested in the more shady scoundrel type? Especially since most Angara are so open and Reyes is more the type to hide things, maybe Jaal can't fathom Ryder liking someone like that. I hope I'm making sense. I'm really tired right now. Sable Rhapsody Good point about Jaal's resources maybe not going into the right areas, it really clicked when I read that. While I don't mind some of his flirty banter, if they cut a little of that out and put more into learning about Angara culture, it would've been a little better. I don't want it to seem like I'm complaining though, as I still love the cobra cat squid. Also, I just loaded up gwent and started playing it the other night, so now I know what you mean by it being really addicting, it's more addicting than in Witcher 3. Some of the cards confuse me though and I get my ass kicked.........but I love it. Maybe he considers Reyes as a genuine threat? Like Ryder would actually go for him. But I agree, his personality seems more to do with it than the fact that he's a charming guy, maybe Jaal doesn't get the whole contradiction between integrity and persona. GWENT!! I was in the closed beta but I had a time of getting the hang of how different the cards are and the whole leveling system, so I'm still on the newbie side of it. I get so confused. But hey!! We could play each other maybe? I think there's a PVP option where you don't just get a random player. No one on the (mostly) squeaky clean Tempest crew approves of a smuggler, scoundrel, and murderer We all dreamed of having our own Han Solo someday. Onecrazymonkey1 They are Sara's other two LI's though. Gwyvian ah... so it wasn't just me who go that vibe! I thought maybe because he was my first ME LI I was biased and seeing things that weren't there. It's not just you. I have... problems with Thane. I really like him as a person and character, but how he relates to Shepard is just - no. Not for me.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on May 26, 2017 1:10:48 GMT
GWENT!! I was in the closed beta but I had a time of getting the hang of how different the cards are and the whole leveling system, so I'm still on the newbie side of it. I get so confused. But hey!! We could play each other maybe? I think there's a PVP option where you don't just get a random player. You'll probably murder me but sure lol. I didn't even know there was a pvp option.......I'll confess that I haven't even started playing real people yet as I'm a bit embarrassed with myself (is that the only way your level goes up and do you get scraps to buy more cards?). I've just been playing their campaign challenges right now and I'm still getting a beat down.
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Post by Gwyvian on May 26, 2017 1:24:33 GMT
GWENT!! I was in the closed beta but I had a time of getting the hang of how different the cards are and the whole leveling system, so I'm still on the newbie side of it. I get so confused. But hey!! We could play each other maybe? I think there's a PVP option where you don't just get a random player. You'll probably murder me but sure lol. I didn't even know there was a pvp option.......I'll confess that I haven't even started playing real people yet as I'm a bit embarrassed with myself (is that the only way your level goes up and do you get scraps to buy more cards?). I've just been playing their campaign challenges right now and I'm still getting a beat down. If this were in-game Gwent I would be slaughtering everyone, hahaha - but not with this deck, I'm fumbling, seriously. I'm not sure if there's a function for it, but I'll fire it up once I get home and see. (I'm going to complain if we can't do PVP, I mean, that's like half the point of Gwent!) I've been playing other players, but they slaughter me easily, I don't know if it's that they're buying kegs or what, but I seem to be waaaaay behind compared to everyone else. Don't worry, I'm not much of a challenge right now. But maybe if we play each other a lot we can reap the rewards and level easier!
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Post by beholderess on May 26, 2017 1:33:15 GMT
beholderess I agree! I want to know more about them! I like Primus and think she'd be awesome as the next villain. They were a nice change from Cerberus and husks! Yes, I am looking forward to meeting her again! She probably does, too Which... is a bad thing, but still...
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Post by beholderess on May 26, 2017 1:38:22 GMT
You'll probably murder me but sure lol. I didn't even know there was a pvp option.......I'll confess that I haven't even started playing real people yet as I'm a bit embarrassed with myself (is that the only way your level goes up and do you get scraps to buy more cards?). I've just been playing their campaign challenges right now and I'm still getting a beat down. If this were in-game Gwent I would be slaughtering everyone, hahaha - but not with this deck, I'm fumbling, seriously. I'm not sure if there's a function for it, but I'll fire it up once I get home and see. (I'm going to complain if we can't do PVP, I mean, that's like half the point of Gwent!) I've been playing other players, but they slaughter me easily, I don't know if it's that they're buying kegs or what, but I seem to be waaaaay behind compared to everyone else. Don't worry, I'm not much of a challenge right now. But maybe if we play each other a lot we can reap the rewards and level easier! I'm still trying to figure out - who the heck is drawing and assigning value to Gwent cards in-universe? Whoever did the Cirilla card would have to be... freakishly well-informed
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Post by Gwyvian on May 26, 2017 1:48:13 GMT
If this were in-game Gwent I would be slaughtering everyone, hahaha - but not with this deck, I'm fumbling, seriously. I'm not sure if there's a function for it, but I'll fire it up once I get home and see. (I'm going to complain if we can't do PVP, I mean, that's like half the point of Gwent!) I've been playing other players, but they slaughter me easily, I don't know if it's that they're buying kegs or what, but I seem to be waaaaay behind compared to everyone else. Don't worry, I'm not much of a challenge right now. But maybe if we play each other a lot we can reap the rewards and level easier! I'm still trying to figure out - who the heck is drawing and assigning value to Gwent cards in-universe? Whoever did the Cirilla card would have to be... freakishly well-informed A mage. Specifically maybe the aen seidhe. Maybe it's Avallac'h, playing games with everyone.
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Post by vana on May 26, 2017 1:52:13 GMT
I wonder why I do not have any "Tempest party banter" anymore no more conversations in the Tempest, even if I think I didn't hear them all? I didn't hear so many...
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Post by beholderess on May 26, 2017 1:55:49 GMT
I'm still trying to figure out - who the heck is drawing and assigning value to Gwent cards in-universe? Whoever did the Cirilla card would have to be... freakishly well-informed A mage. Specifically maybe the aen seidhe. Maybe it's Avallac'h, playing games with everyone. Right, that guy. I liked him more as a goblin
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