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Post by Psychedelic on May 29, 2017 23:26:41 GMT
One question about Jaal: In your game, did you keep the name "Sara"? I renamed her, but I realize that (in youtube videos) when you keep "Sara" as a name, he says "Sara" instead of "Ryder" during conversations, and I guess it would sound more romantic and more friendly to hear Jaal say her first name instead of her last name They should create an automatic prononciation of the name you write, it would be so cool The game only uses Sara's and Scott's name. Fallout 4 tried something like this with a list of names certain NPCs could recognize and use. Lots of work and little gain from a developer's perspective, I guess, but using the title or last name all the time does sound odd sometimes. An automatic pronounciation would be cool, but I think current software is miles away from achieving decent results with normal text, let alone names. They must be even more tricky because they often come in many variations of spelling. Over in the DA twitter thread someone suggested to include a player's chosen first name in the subtitles. That would be technically simple and could give at least the illusion to be called by your chosen name, as long as one reads the subtitles, of course. Not even the voice actors in the game pronounce names the same way, especially angaran names. Jaal's VA has a tendency to accent the last syllable, whereas most of the others use the second last as usual (e. g. 'Ama Da'rav instead of 'Ama 'Darav)
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Post by lilyenachaos on May 29, 2017 23:39:37 GMT
1. Neither, honestly. He doesn't really do anything for me. 2. Wizard of Oz, since I was little. If I had to choose an adult movie - Practical Magic. 3. I don't really have a total favorite, I read so much. Let's go with The Legend of Nightfall by Mickey Zucker Reichert. Also all of the Oz books. Haha. 4. Pragmatic. I don't even like sappy romance novels or movies. I do enjoy romance, just not the sappy/sweet kind so much. 5. As far as games go...oh gosh, that's hard too. World of Warcraft will always hold a special place in my heart, even if I don't play anymore as of a couple months ago. 6. Reyes, because I like a little dark. 7. Red 8. I had a dream once where I was a dragon hunter, and I lived in a big old house on a hill with werewolves for neighbors. I chased the dragons in a Taurus. /madskills A Taurus as in a Ford Taurus???! LOL I don't think I could hunt dragons - I'd feel bad for them. Even as they are frying my bum . Legend of Nightfall - yeah, I'm totally not using these answers for book recs. No. Definitely not. >.> Yay, the only other person so far that likes red sauce lol. Oh yeah, I was flying around the hills (literally, grass covered hills) in my Ford Taurus, hunting the dragons. I didn't have a weapon or anything, but I knew that's what I was doing all the same. Pretty sure they'd have fried me. Also, the werewolves were hot. It was a pretty good dream. I actually have 2 copies of The Legend of Nightfall, because I bought one for myself, and my brother bought me one to replace the one he'd destroyed when we were younger. It didn't survive getting tossed at my sisters head. Oh I was SO ticked. He remembered and replaced it, a decade later. One question about Jaal: In your game, did you keep the name "Sara"? I renamed her, but I realize that (in youtube videos) when you keep "Sara" as a name, he says "Sara" instead of "Ryder" during conversations, and I guess it would sound more romantic and more friendly to hear Jaal say her first name instead of her last name They should create an automatic prononciation of the name you write, it would be so cool I have a lot of Sara's. I really wish they'd gone with a different name, considering we had a Sera in the last DA game, but I love hearing the first name rather than the last name. It's a welcome addition.
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Post by fadburger on May 29, 2017 23:45:47 GMT
Off topic but I know some of you guys are Solas fans and might enjoy my outfit for Fanime today lol:
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Post by janalilith on May 30, 2017 0:08:32 GMT
It can be confusing because Disney bought Star Wars and decided that all the books before "Disney" are non-official anymore... a lot of fans (of the books/comics) were angry because it represented 30 years of story and many books. BUT some of them are so popular that Disney accepted to still publish them with a special label called "Legends". The Thrawn trilogy is the most popular and most famous, the books names are: - Heir to the Empire - Dark Force rising - The Last command And they were the first books written for Star Wars so you don't need to read any other books to understand them, just having watched the 3 old movies are enough and Thrawn is my favorite character ever, the best "villain" and the most charismatic to me And about Jaal: so he sleeps in that mattress in the Tech lab? aww... I feel sorry for him, because Ryder's bed is big enough for two she should remind him that And so the banter between Jaal and Liam about human sexuality is in the Tempest of the Nomad? It would be fun to hear. I hope I didn't miss it. Oh and I wish I could read fanfictions too, but I didn't complete the game yet so I fear spoilers Ugh that's not cool of Disney. But glad to see they are still publishing some. I'll definitely check the Thrawn trilogy out. Yeah you will get that banter now that you had the waterfall scene. Just stick Jaal and Liam in the rover and go driving Yeah I waited to read most fanfics until I finished 1 play through.
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Post by Gwyvian on May 30, 2017 0:08:59 GMT
Did someone say bishies?? Did someone also say quarian male LI??? Why do I have to miss these conversations!! Ok, I think we should all get to know each other a bit better lol. Let's have fun and answer some questions What do you prefer? Svelte Chris Pratt? Or sloppy Chris Pratt (early years on Parks & Rec)? What is your favorite movie of all time and why? What is your favorite book of all time and why? Are you a romantic at heart? Or are you more pragmatic? Favorite game of all time? Of these characters in MEA, if all were romances improved and given beautiful intimate scenes for all players AND the kiss scenes like we get when we visit our LI in DAI, who do you think would be the best for you and your tastes? The characters are Gil, Reyes, Jaal, Vetra, Liam. Red sauce or carbonara? What would be your fantasy job? Dragon hunter? Rift mage? Bard? Rogue? General shit? I'm not missing out on this!! 1. Undecided. Not so much my type. 2. Do I have to pick one?? I keep changing favorites and really I watch more series than I do movies, does that count? If it does: The Expanse. If not, I guess I'll go with... umm... 2001: Space Odyssey maybe, or The Fifth Element? Or Lord of the Rings but that's a trilogy, does that count? Cold Comfort Farm? Dark City? I love a lot of movies, I really, really enjoyed movies like The Martian and Interstellar recently, but oddly enough I even really liked the new King Arthur even though it goes against like every one of my sensibilities, and I really, really loved the new Assassin's Creed movie! I am so a newfound Fassbender fan. Generally I'm a huge sci-fi and fantasy fan, but I'm also kind of old school and a movie connoisseur (read: snob) so I have pretty exacting standards, I've seen a few mentioned that I really love ( Willow, Blade Runner, etc.). Before I gained those standards though, my childhood favorite movie was Spaceballs hands down, I memorized the entire script, but it's not really The Favorite anymore. Close second was The Last Unicorn. OK, I still really love that one. I gotta say though, I was raised a Trekkie and there's nothing that soothes me more in terms of movies, I can watch almost any Star Trek and feel better about the universe instantly. I adore so many more movies and series though, I feel like I'm not doing them justice and I'll probably remember a dozen more movies I love and wished I'd have mentioned here. Also: I just love theater! I really, really wish I had way more opportunities to go. I could talk your ear off answering this question seriously. Oh, and why: well, with my current favorite show, The Expanse, I just adore the atmosphere, the cinematography, the actors (ALTAIR is in this series!! Double fangirl danger! And wow, Thomas Jane is mind-blowing), the story, the science, the EVERYTHING - it's all just absolutely brilliant, there are just so, so many reasons to watch it I think. So is Mr. Robot but I had to take a hiatus from that for a while after it got pretty damn intense, still I love it. 3. Favorite book, neh, only a little easier to answer. my all-time favorite is a tie between the Snow Queen trilogy by Joan Vinge and The Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan/Brandon Sanderson. Why? I have never seen anything written as beautifully as the former, Vinge really, really inspired me as a writer (if you like my stuff, you'll love Vinge I think), WoT is absolutely amazing in story and characters and world building (it's like a revamped, expanded version of Lord of the Rings in the best way possible), I live in these books. But there are so many other authors that I just adore, I love pretty much everything from Ursula LeGuin, Philip K. Dick, Piers Anthony, Tolkien, Rowling, Weekes (yes, that Weekes) and so many more, I could spend forever talking about books like The Mists of Avalon or Dune or... well, you get the idea. I know I'm a complete nerd. 4. Definitely a romantic with a strong foundation in pragmatism - but if there's ever a competition, the romantic always wins. Hey, I write gothic, romanticist poetry, it can't get much more authentically romantic than that. 5. Favorite game... *deep breath* oh, boy. These are way harder to answer than I thought going into it. Of all time? I guess... if I really pull my teeth and force myself to choose, it would be a tie between Neverwinter Nights and ME3. (But there are so many others I feel terrible for not having mentioned!! I'm going to stop myself this time though and spare you all my extremely long nth discourse about it since I spend most my time raving about my favorite games here anyway. ) 6. Jaal. Sooooooo Jaal. Any way possible, I honestly don't care if he's straight, bi or gay, I would have picked him no matter what. I mean, I need to explore the other romances before I can really answer about them, but I'm just hopelessly pan-angara, so... 7. Carbonara. It's my roots, can't help it. But I also love red sauce. I have a lot of food favorites. 8. ROGUE. Maybe with some magical talent and possibly a vampire because I keep having dreams about being one and living in a castle and weird fantasy stuff like that (I am not exaggerating - not even a little, I seriously dream that stuff all the time) but I am so rogue. I mean, it also kind of depends on what world we're talking, but almost every single fantasy game I play, that's just my style. I either answered way too much or way too little depending on your perspective. BUT I PROMISED WALLS OF TEXT!
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on May 30, 2017 0:19:26 GMT
Hey I tried lol, I think it was just too "gritty" and "realistic" for me I guess. Thanks I'll give it a try, I did enjoy it in-game although I didn't spend much time with it (although I didn't get that far to do so anyway lol). I hope if it's popular they make it an app on phones like Blizzard did with Hearthstone (not that I play that lol) which would be more convenient, especially for a card game. Yeah, I can see how that would be off-putting, they did put a lot of gritty realism into it. Did you play the first and second installments? An app would be great, I'd love to be able to have a portable Gwent with me at all times, especially now. But I kind of want the original version, I WANT MY SPIES!!! Aww, hope you're feeling better . I plan to get it some day (I have way too many games right now I haven't even played yet, so I can't justify it right now lol). I was busy all day yesterday and then I was just too beat to be coherent (and post wine, so...) I didn't make an appearance yesterday either. Gwyvian I hope you're feeling better. I got brave and finally started playing actual real people at gwent lolz, the snarky insults are hilarious and I'm at level 7 now . I won a few rounds and still struggle a little but the only deck I know how to navigate right now is the monster deck, as it's my favorite. I should probably try out the other ones but haven't felt like it. At least it's really nice to pass the time with until the next Andromeda patch finally arrives. Thank you guys! I am much better now, I had a three-day headache that turned into an all-night/all-day migraine, unfortunately I'm used to it - but it's gone now, hopefully I don't have to deal with it again for a while. OMG level 7, and you think I'm going to beat you?? I'm level 1, hahahaha. (Also, I really suck at beating Monster decks. Especially now that I don't have my beloved Northern Realms deck, or at least, I'm not used to the one I have.) But anyway, there is indeed a PVP function, I think you have to be friends on GOG Galaxy? I'm not sure, but when I clicked on the option it brought up my extremely empty friends list. If you want to try sometime (and probably massacre me) my gamer tag is the same as my username here. Well, when I play you I'll use my starter decks to be fair and maybe I'll try out the other decks as well, because a really good key to winning is understanding your opponents deck just as much as your own. Another thing is that you can be at level one and still have a pretty good deck. If you do all the single player challenges, you'll get some ore to buy kegs while you only stay at level one, your level will only go up by playing people. I swear I'm not that good though, I'll win a match and then lose one. Oh and another thing, there are some spying cards but they are mostly in the nilfgaard deck and each works a little different I believe. This one player did me really dirty by placing a spy card on my side and boosting it's points up every turn, but I thought "ok maybe that was the price for changing cards etc." (I was new to the game and had no idea what it did, but I always hover over their cards to check now). WELL, While this particular spycard was raking up points making me think I was winning, when I passed it suddenly switched back to his side giving him about 80 points. The card is called fake Ciri by the way, so If you have a lock ability shut that card down and if you have enough scraps make it for yourself.
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Post by janalilith on May 30, 2017 0:21:09 GMT
One question about Jaal: In your game, did you keep the name "Sara"? I renamed her, but I realize that (in youtube videos) when you keep "Sara" as a name, he says "Sara" instead of "Ryder" during conversations, and I guess it would sound more romantic and more friendly to hear Jaal say her first name instead of her last name They should create an automatic prononciation of the name you write, it would be so cool I've only just started a playthrough using the name as given - I don't like the name at all to be honest, but I wanted to see what it was like with him using the first name. Haven't gotten familiar enough with him yet for him to use it yet, though lol. That's hysterical. I love dreams lol. Oh and where is NickClarke? lol It's sweet that your brother replaced it. I've done that for myself with books but never had anyone do that for me.
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Post by janalilith on May 30, 2017 0:39:13 GMT
Did someone say bishies??
Did someone also say quarian male LI??? Why do I have to miss these conversations!! I'm not missing out on this!! 1. Undecided. Not so much my type. 2. Do I have to pick one?? I keep changing favorites and really I watch more series than I do movies, does that count? If it does: The Expanse. If not, I guess I'll go with... umm... 2001: Space Odyssey maybe, or The Fifth Element? Or Lord of the Rings but that's a trilogy, does that count? Cold Comfort Farm? Dark City? I love a lot of movies, I really, really enjoyed movies like The Martian and Interstellar recently, but oddly enough I even really liked the new King Arthur even though it goes against like every one of my sensibilities, and I really, really loved the new Assassin's Creed movie! I am so a newfound Fassbender fan. Generally I'm a huge sci-fi and fantasy fan, but I'm also kind of old school and a movie connoisseur (read: snob) so I have pretty exacting standards, I've seen a few mentioned that I really love ( Willow, Blade Runner, etc.). Before I gained those standards though, my childhood favorite movie was Spaceballs hands down, I memorized the entire script, but it's not really The Favorite anymore. Close second was The Last Unicorn. OK, I still really love that one. I gotta say though, I was raised a Trekkie and there's nothing that soothes me more in terms of movies, I can watch almost any Star Trek and feel better about the universe instantly. I adore so many more movies and series though, I feel like I'm not doing them justice and I'll probably remember a dozen more movies I love and wished I'd have mentioned here. Also: I just love theater! I really, really wish I had way more opportunities to go. I could talk your ear off answering this question seriously. Oh, and why: well, with my current favorite show, The Expanse, I just adore the atmosphere, the cinematography, the actors (ALTAIR is in this series!! Double fangirl danger! And wow, Thomas Jane is mind-blowing), the story, the science, the EVERYTHING - it's all just absolutely brilliant, there are just so, so many reasons to watch it I think. So is Mr. Robot but I had to take a hiatus from that for a while after it got pretty damn intense, still I love it. 3. Favorite book, neh, only a little easier to answer. my all-time favorite is a tie between the Snow Queen trilogy by Joan Vinge and The Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan/Brandon Sanderson. Why? I have never seen anything written as beautifully as the former, Vinge really, really inspired me as a writer (if you like my stuff, you'll love Vinge I think), WoT is absolutely amazing in story and characters and world building (it's like a revamped, expanded version of Lord of the Rings in the best way possible), I live in these books. But there are so many other authors that I just adore, I love pretty much everything from Ursula LeGuin, Philip K. Dick, Piers Anthony, Tolkien, Rowling, Weekes (yes, that Weekes) and so many more, I could spend forever talking about books like The Mists of Avalon or Dune or... well, you get the idea. I know I'm a complete nerd. 4. Definitely a romantic with a strong foundation in pragmatism - but if there's ever a competition, the romantic always wins. Hey, I write gothic, romanticist poetry, it can't get much more authentically romantic than that. 5. Favorite game... *deep breath* oh, boy. These are way harder to answer than I thought going into it. Of all time? I guess... if I really pull my teeth and force myself to choose, it would be a tie between Neverwinter Nights and ME3. (But there are so many others I feel terrible for not having mentioned!! I'm going to stop myself this time though and spare you all my extremely long nth discourse about it since I spend most my time raving about my favorite games here anyway. ) 6. Jaal. Sooooooo Jaal. Any way possible, I honestly don't care if he's straight, bi or gay, I would have picked him no matter what. I mean, I need to explore the other romances before I can really answer about them, but I'm just hopelessly pan-angara, so... 7. Carbonara. It's my roots, can't help it. But I also love red sauce. I have a lot of food favorites. 8. ROGUE. Maybe with some magical talent and possibly a vampire because I keep having dreams about being one and living in a castle and weird fantasy stuff like that (I am not exaggerating - not even a little, I seriously dream that stuff all the time) but I am so rogue. I mean, it also kind of depends on what world we're talking, but almost every single fantasy game I play, that's just my style. I either answered way too much or way too little depending on your perspective. BUT I PROMISED WALLS OF TEXT! Woot! Woot! To Walls of Text lol. I want to see the Expanse series. I've read the first 2 books and they are great. I liked the first one immensely - the 2nd wasn't as good but I feel it is a bridge so I've got to get to that 3rd book and so I've been wanting to see how they handled the series. Those books are terrifying!! But so good for space opera. I know what you mean about having a hard time choosing between films and books. Eventually I'll know that about games too . I have a few of the books you mention - I have WOT 1 and the first 2 books to the snow queen trilogy - they keep ending up on my back burner so maybe I'll push them forward. Cold Comfort Farm is great! I also am a Fassbender fan though I haven't seen the Assassins Creed movie yet - he is good casting for it. Maybe we should do a "your top ten" in film, series, books and games. I know I'll still run out of space.
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Post by beholderess on May 30, 2017 0:55:57 GMT
Just replayed Jaal's loyalty mission, and noticed a few neat things that point out that not shooting Akksul is the right decision and that he'd (probably ) miss 1) When exploring the welcome centre, there are signs of blood and struggle in one of the rooms. The party comments that Akksul won't kill an angara, but would definitely unload like crazy 2) The whole Teviint situation is basically a preview of what will happen soon - she shoots, it proves that she'd been wrong, but nobody dies 3) When Akksul points a gun at Jaal, his hand shakes. Very noticeably so
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Post by vana on May 30, 2017 0:58:53 GMT
The game only uses Sara's and Scott's name. Fallout 4 tried something like this with a list of names certain NPCs could recognize and use. Lots of work and little gain from a developer's perspective, I guess, but using the title or last name all the time does sound odd sometimes. An automatic pronounciation would be cool, but I think current software is miles away from achieving decent results with normal text, let alone names. They must be even more tricky because they often come in many variations of spelling. Over in the DA twitter thread someone suggested to include a player's chosen first name in the subtitles. That would be technically simple and could give at least the illusion to be called by your chosen name, as long as one reads the subtitles, of course. Not even the voice actors in the game pronounce names the same way, especially angaran names. Jaal's VA has a tendency to accent the last syllable, whereas most of the others use the second last as usual (e. g. 'Ama Da'rav instead of 'Ama 'Darav) Yes I know it would be difficult to pronounce well enough different names, and a lot of work (and with the voice of each voice actor), it's just that when you don't want to use the basic names there is no alternative (Sara/Scott) (because it kills the Roleplay I think, when you decided that your Ryder is NOT called Sara or Scott, for headcanon/identification/fanfiction reasons, whatever), you just have the others calling you "Ryder" and it could sound a bit rude sometimes, especially during romantic scenes. It makes you feel like there is a distance between your LI/squad and your character. Jaal is alien so at least you could excuse that by his lack of understanding of the language/customs, but if you have Vetra or Peebee as a best friend and still calling you "Ryder" or Liam as a romance and still calling you "Ryder" too even when you're in couple, it really sounds strange. Shepard was more the incarnation of authority so it was less of a problem, but Ryder is more friendly, so it just sounds rude to hear her called all the time by her last name. Maybe they should just avoid saying it during romances or once you commit, it would already be a good thing. How could the solution with subtitles work? you mean you "see" the chosen name, but the character says nothing, or says "Ryder"/"Sara" ? the most important are the voices, if they say something different in the subtitles it's not really convincing. I know because I play with french subtitles and some names are different (for ex. the Salarians are called "Galariens" in French, the Kett are the Kert (but it's ok it sounds almost the same), the Remnant are "les Reliquats"... The Scourge is "Le fléau"... so even if they use other names in the subtitles you cannot just avoid hearing the different names in the dialogues, you see/hear both of them and it's confusing if a name is totally changed (if my Ryder is called, let's say, Jessy, and the voice says Sara, it's disturbing)
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Post by Psychedelic on May 30, 2017 2:29:12 GMT
The game only uses Sara's and Scott's name. Fallout 4 tried something like this with a list of names certain NPCs could recognize and use. Lots of work and little gain from a developer's perspective, I guess, but using the title or last name all the time does sound odd sometimes. An automatic pronounciation would be cool, but I think current software is miles away from achieving decent results with normal text, let alone names. They must be even more tricky because they often come in many variations of spelling. Over in the DA twitter thread someone suggested to include a player's chosen first name in the subtitles. That would be technically simple and could give at least the illusion to be called by your chosen name, as long as one reads the subtitles, of course. Not even the voice actors in the game pronounce names the same way, especially angaran names. Jaal's VA has a tendency to accent the last syllable, whereas most of the others use the second last as usual (e. g. 'Ama Da'rav instead of 'Ama 'Darav) Yes I know it would be difficult to pronounce well enough different names, and a lot of work (and with the voice of each voice actor), it's just that when you don't want to use the basic names there is no alternative (Sara/Scott) (because it kills the Roleplay I think, when you decided that your Ryder is NOT called Sara or Scott, for headcanon/identification/fanfiction reasons, whatever), you just have the others calling you "Ryder" and it could sound a bit rude sometimes, especially during romantic scenes. It makes you feel like there is a distance between your LI/squad and your character. Jaal is alien so at least you could excuse that by his lack of understanding of the language/customs, but if you have Vetra or Peebee as a best friend and still calling you "Ryder" or Liam as a romance and still calling you "Ryder" too even when you're in couple, it really sounds strange. Shepard was more the incarnation of authority so it was less of a problem, but Ryder is more friendly, so it just sounds rude to hear her called all the time by her last name. Maybe they should just avoid saying it during romances or once you commit, it would already be a good thing. How could the solution with subtitles work? you mean you "see" the chosen name, but the character says nothing, or says "Ryder"/"Sara" ? the most important are the voices, if they say something different in the subtitles it's not really convincing. I know because I play with french subtitles and some names are different (for ex. the Salarians are called "Galariens" in French, the Kett are the Kert (but it's ok it sounds almost the same), the Remnant are "les Reliquats"... The Scourge is "Le fléau"... so even if they use other names in the subtitles you cannot just avoid hearing the different names in the dialogues, you see/hear both of them and it's confusing if a name is totally changed (if my Ryder is called, let's say, Jessy, and the voice says Sara, it's disturbing) I tend to read the subtitles and click through the dialogue, especially on later playthroughs or if I simply get too impatient for the VAs to finish their lines. It's a bit mean considering how much work they put into it, but in retrospect it feels like I heard the characters say the lines because I hear them in my head when I read them. So if the VA says the line without any name or title, but the chosen name appears in the subtitles, it is like they said it aloud. Doesn't work for people who just listen to the voice, of course, and don't enable the subtitles at all. I don't know how many players actually do that, can't imagine it is a large percentage. It would drive me mad if I always had to wait for the VA to finish (Jaal's VA is worst in that regard). I hadn't thought of people who keep the original voices, but use the subtitles as translation. English isn't my native language as well, but I play the game in English with English subtitles, it's easier to read than to understand spoken language. It must be confusing as hell to switch between languages if you hear one thing and read another, that's why I meant just to omit any (first) names in the voice acting. I wonder why they changed the names of some races in the French version in the first place. Is there anything that sounds the same and could lead to confusion or did the translators simply get creative? I don't know about the quality of the French version of MEA, but I avoid translated games if I can, strange things happen there, too often of the voice acting is bad or the translators had clearly no idea what they were talking about. Plus I can pretend to do something useful with my time, like practicing a foreign language.
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Post by kestrel on May 30, 2017 2:29:17 GMT
janalilithIt's actually a sequel to Bladerunner, which is... eh. I don't know how I feel about it.
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Post by ninaskye on May 30, 2017 3:08:00 GMT
Hey everyone! Been gone for a bit because I was buried to the neck in school work. What's new? EDIT: I consider myself pretty neutral on the whole make Jaal bi thing. I pretty much play as female characters exclusively, so at the end of the day, it doesn't effect me. But, at this point, I doubt they're going to make Jaal bi. The game's already been out for a few months, and people have already played it, completed it, and moved on to other games. The best they can do is try to improve things in the upcoming DLCs. I hope they include a male Quarian LI for Scott who becomes a seventh squaddie. Like Sebastian from DA2, but better. My ipad autocorrected "Quarian" to Quarantine.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on May 30, 2017 10:07:37 GMT
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Post by janalilith on May 30, 2017 11:54:03 GMT
Just replayed Jaal's loyalty mission, and noticed a few neat things that point out that not shooting Akksul is the right decision and that he'd (probably ) miss 1) When exploring the welcome centre, there are signs of blood and struggle in one of the rooms. The party comments that Akksul won't kill an angara, but would definitely unload like crazy 2) The whole Teviint situation is basically a preview of what will happen soon - she shoots, it proves that she'd been wrong, but nobody dies 3) When Akksul points a gun at Jaal, his hand shakes. Very noticeably so I loved how his hand shakes!!!! I seriously really adore Aksul. He's so hurt and Jaal is making him face any doubts he has. And I noted that too, when Jaal points out it isn't his style to kill an Angara - and that's why Jaal's like, trust me (very squee-worthy lol). Face it, there has to be some charisma there to get all those to follow him even if he's a bit unhinged in the end there. That's why in my playthroughs I could NEVER kill him. Can't do it. Morning all. Back to work for me. Can't muster enthusiasm for it. *sparkle* vana , I love the French names for Remnant and The Scourge! Psychedelic , I mainly use the subtitles when a character is talking but they are standing too far away for some reason and you can't hear them. Like when talking to Nilij after rescuing him, another Angara is talking and this last time I played that scene for some reason they were standing too far and I couldn't hear them at all which at first made me think I was having a bug. Thankfully the subtitles were there lol. But honestly I hate when that happens, especially with Jaal. kestrel , Hmmm.... lol I understand your reticence. It could be either great or disastrous. I'll have to watch Bladerunner again- it's been a decade at least. ninaskye , wb. But with no biJaal we can't share in purple space bunny cat goodness with our friends! I actually don't think it will be such a bad thing if they offer it now even months later. It's clear that gay male gamers didn't get the experience everyone else did so they are more likely to play again if offered something like this. Now, I don't think anyone would argue to gay or bi male quarian AND bi Jaal. :amirite: lol I love that emoty. fadburger - Nice fanart. I love how they captured Evfra's bottom lip. And he has little fangs!!!! See, the Angara so needed them. Though, I do admit Evfra's teeth do seem a bit fang-like when he talks as opposed to other Angara for some reason. I know he's older but he's also literally "long in the tooth." N7Pathfinder thanks for the vids Oh and Gwyvian , on chapter 4 of Heart of the Forge . Me thinks the frost is melting.
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Post by yeah rip on May 30, 2017 14:46:58 GMT
YOOO, can't believe I forgot that one! There was a time when rewatching it was part of my daily routine. And I was meaning to get into The Expanse too, because 1) sci fi, 2) Elias Toufexis
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Post by Felya87 on May 30, 2017 15:08:53 GMT
YOOO, can't believe I forgot that one! There was a time when rewatching it was part of my daily routine. And I was meaning to get into The Expanse too, because 1) sci fi, 2) Elias Toufexis The Expanse is truly a good show! Many elements remind me of both ME2 and Planets (a very interesting anime)
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Post by fadburger on May 30, 2017 17:07:44 GMT
Just replayed Jaal's loyalty mission, and noticed a few neat things that point out that not shooting Akksul is the right decision and that he'd (probably ) miss 1) When exploring the welcome centre, there are signs of blood and struggle in one of the rooms. The party comments that Akksul won't kill an angara, but would definitely unload like crazy 2) The whole Teviint situation is basically a preview of what will happen soon - she shoots, it proves that she'd been wrong, but nobody dies 3) When Akksul points a gun at Jaal, his hand shakes. Very noticeably so I loved how his hand shakes!!!! I seriously really adore Aksul. He's so hurt and Jaal is making him face any doubts he has. And I noted that too, when Jaal points out it isn't his style to kill an Angara - and that's why Jaal's like, trust me (very squee-worthy lol). Face it, there has to be some charisma there to get all those to follow him even if he's a bit unhinged in the end there. That's why in my playthroughs I could NEVER kill him. Can't do it. Morning all. Back to work for me. Can't muster enthusiasm for it. *sparkle* vana , I love the French names for Remnant and The Scourge! Psychedelic , I mainly use the subtitles when a character is talking but they are standing too far away for some reason and you can't hear them. Like when talking to Nilij after rescuing him, another Angara is talking and this last time I played that scene for some reason they were standing too far and I couldn't hear them at all which at first made me think I was having a bug. Thankfully the subtitles were there lol. But honestly I hate when that happens, especially with Jaal. kestrel , Hmmm.... lol I understand your reticence. It could be either great or disastrous. I'll have to watch Bladerunner again- it's been a decade at least. ninaskye , wb. But with no biJaal we can't share in purple space bunny cat goodness with our friends! I actually don't think it will be such a bad thing if they offer it now even months later. It's clear that gay male gamers didn't get the experience everyone else did so they are more likely to play again if offered something like this. Now, I don't think anyone would argue to gay or bi male quarian AND bi Jaal. :amirite: lol I love that emoty. fadburger - Nice fanart. I love how they captured Evfra's bottom lip. And he has little fangs!!!! See, the Angara so needed them. Though, I do admit Evfra's teeth do seem a bit fang-like when he talks as opposed to other Angara for some reason. I know he's older but he's also literally "long in the tooth." N7Pathfinder thanks for the vids Oh and Gwyvian , on chapter 4 of Heart of the Forge . Me thinks the frost is melting. I love puns~
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Post by vana on May 30, 2017 22:33:09 GMT
I tend to read the subtitles and click through the dialogue, especially on later playthroughs or if I simply get too impatient for the VAs to finish their lines. It's a bit mean considering how much work they put into it, but in retrospect it feels like I heard the characters say the lines because I hear them in my head when I read them. So if the VA says the line without any name or title, but the chosen name appears in the subtitles, it is like they said it aloud. Doesn't work for people who just listen to the voice, of course, and don't enable the subtitles at all. I don't know how many players actually do that, can't imagine it is a large percentage. It would drive me mad if I always had to wait for the VA to finish (Jaal's VA is worst in that regard). I hadn't thought of people who keep the original voices, but use the subtitles as translation. English isn't my native language as well, but I play the game in English with English subtitles, it's easier to read than to understand spoken language. It must be confusing as hell to switch between languages if you hear one thing and read another, that's why I meant just to omit any (first) names in the voice acting. I wonder why they changed the names of some races in the French version in the first place. Is there anything that sounds the same and could lead to confusion or did the translators simply get creative? I don't know about the quality of the French version of MEA, but I avoid translated games if I can, strange things happen there, too often of the voice acting is bad or the translators had clearly no idea what they were talking about. Plus I can pretend to do something useful with my time, like practicing a foreign language. Yes, I can understand that for a second playthrough you tend to skip the dialogues, because you heard them already before. But for a good immersion in your first playthrough, hearing every squadmate and LI call your Ryder by her last name, or by a name you don't really like, is a bit annoying. Maybe they should just avoid to say her name when it comes to romance, to avoid that. They can just use the "you" , or "darling one", things like this, instead of Sara/Ryder. (oh, and in french even after the love scene, Jaal still uses the polite/respectful "vous" like a gentleman it's funny) like if he was respecting/admiring Ryder so much that he still uses the formal "you". The rest of the crew seems to use it as well, it gives more authority to Ryder but also a distance with the others, I think (having a friend/lover using a formal "you" AND calling you by your last name is a bit off-putting) The quality of the voice acting depends on the game. The french VA was pretty good for the 3 first Mass Effect, but for this one, the voice acting was not really good and not going well with the lips movement. In DA:I I played in english, too, because I love Cullen's voice so much in english. For a game like the Witcher (1, 2 and 3) the french VA is GREAT and much better than the english one, because the French pronounciation is closer to the original one (in Polish) than the english one. It was really irritating to hear in english Geralt call his horse (Roach) and Vernon ROCHE exactly the same way! Vernon's last name should be pronounced "Rosh" (like in Polish and French) not "roach" ... or it sounds like the horse, especially in english. Because of that a lot of gamers playing in english thought that Vernon Roche was dead and that Geralt called his horse after him! Anyway, about ME:A, the words "Scourge" and "Remnant" were translated because it's the direct translation. Fléau means scourge. Scourge in French doesn't mean anything and sound a bit ridiculous, like... I don't know... a vegetable called "courge", some kind of pumpkin And Remnant means something that was left from ancient times, so in french it was translated "reliquat", which sounds like some kind of relic. You know, I guess that even in english the voice actors most of the time don't know anything about Mass effect and what they are talking about, haha ^^ (I remember an interview of Haytham's original voice actor - I love his voice in Assassin's creed 3 - who was saying that when he was called for the job he didn't even know what was Assassin's creed)
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Post by Aurora on May 30, 2017 22:42:47 GMT
Aurora I think I saw Kubo on Netflix finally. Worth a watch then, ya? ugh sorry for responding so late, but yes!!! I loved it
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Post by Psychedelic on May 31, 2017 0:31:24 GMT
I tend to read the subtitles and click through the dialogue, especially on later playthroughs or if I simply get too impatient for the VAs to finish their lines. It's a bit mean considering how much work they put into it, but in retrospect it feels like I heard the characters say the lines because I hear them in my head when I read them. So if the VA says the line without any name or title, but the chosen name appears in the subtitles, it is like they said it aloud. Doesn't work for people who just listen to the voice, of course, and don't enable the subtitles at all. I don't know how many players actually do that, can't imagine it is a large percentage. It would drive me mad if I always had to wait for the VA to finish (Jaal's VA is worst in that regard). I hadn't thought of people who keep the original voices, but use the subtitles as translation. English isn't my native language as well, but I play the game in English with English subtitles, it's easier to read than to understand spoken language. It must be confusing as hell to switch between languages if you hear one thing and read another, that's why I meant just to omit any (first) names in the voice acting. I wonder why they changed the names of some races in the French version in the first place. Is there anything that sounds the same and could lead to confusion or did the translators simply get creative? I don't know about the quality of the French version of MEA, but I avoid translated games if I can, strange things happen there, too often of the voice acting is bad or the translators had clearly no idea what they were talking about. Plus I can pretend to do something useful with my time, like practicing a foreign language. Yes, I can understand that for a second playthrough you tend to skip the dialogues, because you heard them already before. But for a good immersion in your first playthrough, hearing every squadmate and LI call your Ryder by her last name, or by a name you don't really like, is a bit annoying. Maybe they should just avoid to say her name when it comes to romance, to avoid that. They can just use the "you" , or "darling one", things like this, instead of Sara/Ryder. (oh, and in french even after the love scene, Jaal still uses the polite/respectful "vous" like a gentleman it's funny) like if he was respecting/admiring Ryder so much that he still uses the formal "you". The rest of the crew seems to use it as well, it gives more authority to Ryder but also a distance with the others, I think (having a friend/lover using a formal "you" AND calling you by your last name is a bit off-putting) The quality of the voice acting depends on the game. The french VA was pretty good for the 3 first Mass Effect, but for this one, the voice acting was not really good and not going well with the lips movement. In DA:I I played in english, too, because I love Cullen's voice so much in english. For a game like the Witcher (1, 2 and 3) the french VA is GREAT and much better than the english one, because the French pronounciation is closer to the original one (in Polish) than the english one. It was really irritating to hear in english Geralt call his horse (Roach) and Vernon ROCHE exactly the same way! Vernon's last name should be pronounced "Rosh" (like in Polish and French) not "roach" ... or it sounds like the horse, especially in english. Because of that a lot of gamers playing in english thought that Vernon Roche was dead and that Geralt called his horse after him! Anyway, about ME:A, the words "Scourge" and "Remnant" were translated because it's the direct translation. Fléau means scourge. Scourge in French doesn't mean anything and sound a bit ridiculous, like... I don't know... a vegetable called "courge", some kind of pumpkin And Remnant means something that was left from ancient times, so in french it was translated "reliquat", which sounds like some kind of relic. You know, I guess that even in english the voice actors most of the time don't know anything about Mass effect and what they are talking about, haha ^^ (I remember an interview of Haytham's original voice actor - I love his voice in Assassin's creed 3 - who was saying that when he was called for the job he didn't even know what was Assassin's creed) The idea to have the character's first name show up only in the subtitles came up in the DA twitter thread when a new writer for DA, Alexis Kennedy, twittered something about the problems he had to write for a fully voiced game. Apparently he didn't remember to use the actual name in his scripts and wrote something like <PCname> instead, as he would for text based dialogues. The subtitles-only thing would be a compromise to avoid such problems, e. g. a close friend adressing the PC by their title, just because the writers had to use a "one fits all"-line. Just a thought, not something I really expect to happen. As to the translation issues, I just wondered why the French translation changed a race's name like "Salarians" to something else, just because there is no translation necessary or even possible, in contrast to words like "remnant" or "scourge". For example the German version uses the English word "pathfinder" as title, same as the original. If they had translated it, it would sound more like "boy/girl scout" (stangely fitting, now that I think about it, but not in a good way ).
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Post by vana on May 31, 2017 1:03:23 GMT
The idea to have the character's first name show up only in the subtitles came up in the DA twitter thread when a new writer for DA, Alexis Kennedy, twittered something about the problems he had to write for a fully voiced game. Apparently he didn't remember to use the actual name in his scripts and wrote something like <PCname> instead, as he would for text based dialogues. The subtitles-only thing would be a compromise to avoid such problems, e. g. a close friend adressing the PC by their title, just because the writers had to use a "one fits all"-line. Just a thought, not something I really expect to happen. As to the translation issues, I just wondered why the French translation changed a race's name like "Salarians" to something else, just because there is no translation necessary or even possible, in contrast to words like "remnant" or "scourge". For example the German version uses the English word "pathfinder" as title, same as the original. If they had translated it, it would sound more like "boy/girl scout" (stangely fitting, now that I think about it, but not in a good way ). In German I guess that "pathfinder" can have a meaning? in French, it doesn't, and French people have trouble with the "th" pronounciation. The word means something, like "the one who finds the path/worlds to colonize" and has a role of Pioneer, so in French they called it Pionnier. I don't really like the sound of it, but at least it is a title directly connected to the role of Pathfinder. If it was an original name like "Dakana" or whatever, they would have kept it. Oh, and I guess that "salarians" sounds too much like "salariés" (employees), that's why they changed the first letter, I guess. Galariens sounds better in french and totally alien, "Salariens"... sounds... like a salaried employee... And they changed Kett into Kert, because I guess that "Kett" was too close to the "Geths" of the previous Mass effects. I've read some of the earlier pages of that thread, I wish I was there during the hype. I discover the game only know because I had other games to finish first. I still don't understand all the hate and the bashing around that game (outside of this thread), because I'm really enjoying it...
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Post by beholderess on May 31, 2017 1:33:41 GMT
Just replayed Jaal's loyalty mission, and noticed a few neat things that point out that not shooting Akksul is the right decision and that he'd (probably ) miss 1) When exploring the welcome centre, there are signs of blood and struggle in one of the rooms. The party comments that Akksul won't kill an angara, but would definitely unload like crazy 2) The whole Teviint situation is basically a preview of what will happen soon - she shoots, it proves that she'd been wrong, but nobody dies 3) When Akksul points a gun at Jaal, his hand shakes. Very noticeably so I loved how his hand shakes!!!! I seriously really adore Aksul. He's so hurt and Jaal is making him face any doubts he has. And I noted that too, when Jaal points out it isn't his style to kill an Angara - and that's why Jaal's like, trust me (very squee-worthy lol). Face it, there has to be some charisma there to get all those to follow him even if he's a bit unhinged in the end there. That's why in my playthroughs I could NEVER kill him. Can't do it. Really, his gun is all over the place, and it is very obvious. At that rate, I am surprised that he managed to hit something at all. And no, it is not like that in other cutscenes when someone points a gun at someone - most people are much more steady. Maybe he is really a terrible shot
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Post by Psychedelic on May 31, 2017 2:14:29 GMT
The idea to have the character's first name show up only in the subtitles came up in the DA twitter thread when a new writer for DA, Alexis Kennedy, twittered something about the problems he had to write for a fully voiced game. Apparently he didn't remember to use the actual name in his scripts and wrote something like <PCname> instead, as he would for text based dialogues. The subtitles-only thing would be a compromise to avoid such problems, e. g. a close friend adressing the PC by their title, just because the writers had to use a "one fits all"-line. Just a thought, not something I really expect to happen. As to the translation issues, I just wondered why the French translation changed a race's name like "Salarians" to something else, just because there is no translation necessary or even possible, in contrast to words like "remnant" or "scourge". For example the German version uses the English word "pathfinder" as title, same as the original. If they had translated it, it would sound more like "boy/girl scout" (stangely fitting, now that I think about it, but not in a good way ). In German I guess that "pathfinder" can have a meaning? in French, it doesn't, and French people have trouble with the "th" pronounciation. The word means something, like "the one who finds the path/worlds to colonize" and has a role of Pioneer, so in French they called it Pionnier. I don't really like the sound of it, but at least it is a title directly connected to the role of Pathfinder. If it was an original name like "Dakana" or whatever, they would have kept it. Oh, and I guess that "salarians" sounds too much like "salariés" (employees), that's why they changed the first letter, I guess. Galariens sounds better in french and totally alien, "Salariens"... sounds... like a salaried employee... And they changed Kett into Kert, because I guess that "Kett" was too close to the "Geths" of the previous Mass effects. I've read some of the earlier pages of that thread, I wish I was there during the hype. I discover the game only know because I had other games to finish first. I still don't understand all the hate and the bashing around that game (outside of this thread), because I'm really enjoying it... I guess people had very high expectations after the original trilogy (which was nowhere near as perfect as some folks claim in retrospect, imho). MEA didn't live up to their expectations and now they are dissappointed and don't see the game for what it is, but what they wanted it to be. Let them complain, as long as the game is fun it is all it needs to be. I was late to the party with DAI, too. By the time I beat the game everything was already discussed to death and I just lurked in the old forum because I didn't want to bring up "old", but for me new, topics. Though back then there was still more activity in the threads than it is now with MEA after the same time. It has become really quiet here . Unfortunately Andromeda didn't deliver as much content storywise as DAI did, but I take what I can get, it's probably still years till the next DA game. Makes sense they didn't want the name of an alien race sound like "employees", could hardly get more boring. But not being able to properly pronounce "th" sadly has never stopped anyone here to try it anyway. The direct translation of pathfinder is Pfadfinder, basically the same word, but most people would think first of these guys: Not the sort of connotation you would want for the hero of the game, I guess.
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