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Post by beholderess on Jun 4, 2017 20:46:03 GMT
This forum has been plagued by bears the last two days, I hope today will be better. Jaal complaining about Kadara was hilarious. Maybe he low key complains about every station he was at so Evfra was actually excited to get rid of Jaal to Ryder's crew lel He even has a line about Aya ("too many politicians" or something). The only planets he doesn't complain about are Voeld and Havarl. Havarl is his birth place, so he might be a bit biased, but Voeld? I could come up with a lot of things to criticise there, but he either remains remarkably silent or I have missed something. I wonder if Evfra really did want to get rid of him. I never quite understood what Jaal meant when he told him "I know you can spare me". I thought he hinted at his lack of progress in the Resistance ranks, but maybe he had a quarrel with him. He trolls just about everyone, could be he didn't make an exception for our grumpy Resistance leader. beholderess To my defense, I did mention the river. I think that what he meant by that phrase is that he doesn't have any fixed position. As for the arguments, I suspect that they were in the middle of yet another argument about rescuing Moshae (with Jaal proposing something suicidal again) when Tempest happened to fall from the sky. Also, I think that Evfra likes him a lot, considering how mad he gets at Ryder for allowing Jaal to be shot at. But I have no doubt that Jaal does troll Evfra, because that's what he does
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Post by beholderess on Jun 4, 2017 20:49:51 GMT
To the bold text I'll borrow a quote from Jaal - Idiom? lol I've wondered what Jaal meant too - I took it as maybe right now Evfra had a glut of men to use for missions at his disposal but that seems too easy. I could see Evfra tolerating the complaining and trolling to an extent - he's kind of like one of those old cats that you can tease and bother and they're just like, "whatever." They just give you a bored, annoyed look then go about their business (which is usually napping lol). Please don't tell me you never had this annoying error message with "bears in the server room" or something when you couldn't load forum sites. As to idioms, there are worse things in foreign languages. Either you get the idea or they don't make sense at all, but then you know it's an idiom. The real menace are prepositions -mean little buggers- or to quote Jaal: "Fuck over!". And now I am trying to imagine how Evfra tries just to take a nap when Jaal (and everyone else) gets on his nerves too much... Evfra does not take naps, he subsists on coffee (or whatever works in similar way) and willpower That being said, sometimes he just tries to read some reports in peace, and it is then when everybody gets on his nerves. Especially Jaal. And Paaran Shie. And now the Pathfinder
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Post by beholderess on Jun 4, 2017 20:50:54 GMT
This forum has been plagued by bears the last two days, I hope today will be better.He even has a line about Aya ("too many politicians" or something). The only planets he doesn't complain about are Voeld and Havarl. Havarl is his birth place, so he might be a bit biased, but Voeld? I could come up with a lot of things to criticise there, but he either remains remarkably silent or I have missed something. I wonder if Evfra really did want to get rid of him. I never quite understood what Jaal meant when he told him "I know you can spare me". I thought he hinted at his lack of progress in the Resistance ranks, but maybe he had a quarrel with him. He trolls just about everyone, could be he didn't make an exception for our grumpy Resistance leader. beholderess To my defense, I did mention the river. To the bold text I'll borrow a quote from Jaal - Idiom? lol I've wondered what Jaal meant too - I took it as maybe right now Evfra had a glut of men to use for missions at his disposal but that seems too easy. I could see Evfra tolerating the complaining and trolling to an extent - he's kind of like one of those old cats that you can tease and bother and they're just like, "whatever." They just give you a bored, annoyed look then go about their business (which is usually napping lol). Evfra is the ultimate grumpy cat
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Post by vana on Jun 4, 2017 21:35:37 GMT
Jaal on most planets except Havarl, Aya and Voeld: And I wonder why Jaal says that Evfra can spare him, because Evfra gets mad at Ryder if she lets Akksul shoot him, and he says "my best warrior" (about Jaal), isn't it? but yes maybe Jaal couldn't stop complaining all the time and Evfra was mad at him Yes my problem when I didn't have access to page 1970 of this thread was also the "bears in the server room" error message... it's annoying...
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Post by Psychedelic on Jun 4, 2017 22:14:06 GMT
Jaal on most planets except Havarl, Aya and Voeld: And I wonder why Jaal says that Evfra can spare him, because Evfra gets mad at Ryder if she lets Akksul shoot him, and he says "my best warrior" (about Jaal), isn't it? but yes maybe Jaal couldn't stop complaining all the time and Evfra was mad at him Yes my problem when I didn't have access to page 1970 of this thread was also the "bears in the server room" error message... it's annoying... eye color - check slitted pupils - check general facial expression - check fluffy fur - uhh... I guess you can't have everything. I think that what he meant by that phrase is that he doesn't have any fixed position. As for the arguments, I suspect that they were in the middle of yet another argument about rescuing Moshae (with Jaal proposing something suicidal again) when Tempest happened to fall from the sky. Also, I think that Evfra likes him a lot, considering how mad he gets at Ryder for allowing Jaal to be shot at. But I have no doubt that Jaal does troll Evfra, because that's what he does I didn't want to imply that Evfra doesn't like Jaal (in his own way), but that doesn't mean he probably wants to airlock him on occasion. Lucky for Jaal Evfra usually stays on Aya, which makes it a bit harder to find an suitable airlock, but getting him off the planet in a ship full of aliens serves the same purpose I'd say. An argument with Evfra with an emotional Jaal trying to convince a grumpy (what else?) Evfra to launch a rescue mission would have been a far more interesting scene to introduce him as new character. The one with the bullied recruit who tries to sneak off with Jaal's rifle was a bit lame, imo.
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Post by vana on Jun 4, 2017 22:29:46 GMT
An argument with Evfra with an emotional Jaal trying to convince a grumpy (what else?) Evfra to launch a rescue mission would have been a far more interesting scene to introduce him as new character. The one with the bullied recruit who tries to sneak off with Jaal's rifle was a bit lame, imo.I don't even remember that scene when does it happen exactly? I wish we could have a mission to search for (and save) Evfra's family. He says they were captured 10 years ago and he lost hope, but I wish that Ryder could show her good intentions by saving them or at least the ones who survived. But 10 years in a Kett camp must be traumatizing and might have turned them into anti-alien fanatics like the Roekkar... look at Akksul after just one year
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Post by beholderess on Jun 4, 2017 22:40:17 GMT
Jaal on most planets except Havarl, Aya and Voeld: And I wonder why Jaal says that Evfra can spare him, because Evfra gets mad at Ryder if she lets Akksul shoot him, and he says "my best warrior" (about Jaal), isn't it? but yes maybe Jaal couldn't stop complaining all the time and Evfra was mad at him Yes my problem when I didn't have access to page 1970 of this thread was also the "bears in the server room" error message... it's annoying... eye color - check slitted pupils - check general facial expression - check fluffy fur - uhh... I guess you can't have everything. I think that what he meant by that phrase is that he doesn't have any fixed position. As for the arguments, I suspect that they were in the middle of yet another argument about rescuing Moshae (with Jaal proposing something suicidal again) when Tempest happened to fall from the sky. Also, I think that Evfra likes him a lot, considering how mad he gets at Ryder for allowing Jaal to be shot at. But I have no doubt that Jaal does troll Evfra, because that's what he does I didn't want to imply that Evfra doesn't like Jaal (in his own way), but that doesn't mean he probably wants to airlock him on occasion. Lucky for Jaal Evfra usually stays on Aya, which makes it a bit harder to find an suitable airlock, but getting him off the planet in a ship full of aliens serves the same purpose I'd say. An argument with Evfra with an emotional Jaal trying to convince a grumpy (what else?) Evfra to launch a rescue mission would have been a far more interesting scene to introduce him as new character. The one with the bullied recruit who tries to sneak off with Jaal's rifle was a bit lame, imo. Heh, kind of how I feel about Liam - love him to pieces, but definitely want to airlock him on ocassion. More than once per day, even. And wont have him any other way No wonder Liam and Jaal get along And yes, I am getting an impression that Jaal is something of a drama queen even by angara standards Also, speaking of grumpy cats - now I have a mental image of Evfra sleeping curled up into a ball. And growling if poked. Thanks, thread
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Post by Psychedelic on Jun 4, 2017 23:32:13 GMT
An argument with Evfra with an emotional Jaal trying to convince a grumpy (what else?) Evfra to launch a rescue mission would have been a far more interesting scene to introduce him as new character. The one with the bullied recruit who tries to sneak off with Jaal's rifle was a bit lame, imo.I don't even remember that scene when does it happen exactly? I wish we could have a mission to search for (and save) Evfra's family. He says they were captured 10 years ago and he lost hope, but I wish that Ryder could show her good intentions by saving them or at least the ones who survived. But 10 years in a Kett camp must be traumatizing and might have turned them into anti-alien fanatics like the Roekkar... look at Akksul after just one year The scene when you enter the Resistance HQ after you have landed on Aya for the first time, this one: I don't think anyone could survive a Kett labor camp for ten years. Evfra's family is either dead or kettified, which is practically the same. But Gwyvian's Resistances and Dalliances starts out with the same intention, so you are not alone with your idea. Heh, kind of how I feel about Liam - love him to pieces, but definitely want to airlock him on ocassion. More than once per day, even. And wont have him any other way No wonder Liam and Jaal get along And yes, I am getting an impression that Jaal is something of a drama queen even by angara standards. Also, speaking of grumpy cats - now I have a mental image of Evfra sleeping curled up into a ball. And growling if poked. Thanks, thread Don't kill me, but I don't like Liam. He was my plan B if Jaal hadn't been what I expected or for the next playthrough, but after I got to know Liam, I lost interest. My crew is supposed to help me out of trouble, not to get me into more. Then he sends me to scan things on the Aya market after he has been told not to, and all that while my Pathfinder tries to make nice with the Angara. Not helping.
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Post by vana on Jun 4, 2017 23:45:53 GMT
I don't know who is the artist (damn you pinterest, hard to track the source) but I love this one I want to adopt Jaal AND the cat We know that Jaal likes Avela, but it seems we can get a little romance , a kiss or something from her? does Jaal react to that if it happens? because if he couldn't seduce her, but Ryder could, Jaal might be a bit jealous Psychedelic: thanks! I didn't remember that scene, it's true that it doesn't have a lot of impact. An argument between Jaal and Evfra would have been better, yes!
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Post by janalilith on Jun 4, 2017 23:55:44 GMT
It's funny - I was playing that scene today and for the first time had my Ryder deviate from the path in following Paaran Shie - they shot her dead!!! LOL. I was so surprised. They are not f'ing around.
Oh and Vana, that young Angara that's bullied is the one that stares down Ryder when she first enters the resistance headquarters to meet Evfra. Jaal is talking with him as she enters.
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Post by Psychedelic on Jun 5, 2017 0:20:27 GMT
It's funny - I was playing that scene today and for the first time had my Ryder deviate from the path in following Paaran Shie - they shot her dead!!! LOL. I was so surprised. They are not f'ing around. Oh and Vana, that young Angara that's bullied is the one that stares down Ryder when she first enters the resistance headquarters to meet Evfra. Jaal is talking with him as she enters. I've read about that in another thread, never tried it myself. I just do what I am told. Apparently scanning your surroundings has the same effect. But your Ryder had it coming, you have been warned. I don't know if the recruit stares Ryder down. I had the impression he didn't get the news aliens had landed on Aya because he was distracted by his own problems or whatever. He looked surprised and rather curious what that furry thing is that just walked into the Resistance HQ. Ryder returned the look just as curious as him, reminded me of the "Well, then scan him back!" reply during the run-in with the Archon. Jaal and cats seems to be a thing, found this post on Tumblr.
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Post by beholderess on Jun 5, 2017 0:38:55 GMT
It's funny - I was playing that scene today and for the first time had my Ryder deviate from the path in following Paaran Shie - they shot her dead!!! LOL. I was so surprised. They are not f'ing around. Oh and Vana, that young Angara that's bullied is the one that stares down Ryder when she first enters the resistance headquarters to meet Evfra. Jaal is talking with him as she enters. I've read about that in another thread, never tried it myself. I just do what I am told. Apparently scanning your surroundings has the same effect. But your Ryder had it coming, you have been warned. I don't know if the recruit stares Ryder down. I had the impression he didn't get the news aliens had landed on Aya because he was distracted by his own problems or whatever. He looked surprised and rather curious what that furry thing is that just walked into the Resistance HQ. Ryder returned the look just as curious as him, reminded me of the "Well, then scan him back!" reply during the run-in with the Archon. Jaal and cats seems to be a thing, found this post on Tumblr. I suspect that if an angara ever tries to pet a cat, it's hair would stand from the static. Which a cat wouldn't appreciate
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Post by MarilynRobert on Jun 5, 2017 1:19:37 GMT
My Ryder just had the conversation with Jaal, where Jaal tells him that he's not really a fighter and doesn't really fit in with the Resistance and even at his age, does not know what he wants to do with his life (not the exact words but something like that). The reason they didn't have this conversation sooner was because Jaal was giving Ryder the cold shoulder for blowing up the Kett facility. I can imagine Jaal giving Evfra the cold shoulder for something or other and giving Evfra a ton of headaches to go with all the headaches he already has, leading the resistance. As much as he might like Jaal, having him go off so he can give Ryder the cold shoulder, could be a relief for Evfra. Evfra stands around looking grumpy and giving orders so having Jaal standing there ignoring him means the two of them stand there not talking to each other ever.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Jun 5, 2017 6:47:45 GMT
Has anyone seen this beautiful piece yet? I think it's new and I can't stop staring at it. @____@ link
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Post by beholderess on Jun 5, 2017 10:27:22 GMT
My Ryder just had the conversation with Jaal, where Jaal tells him that he's not really a fighter and doesn't really fit in with the Resistance and even at his age, does not know what he wants to do with his life (not the exact words but something like that). The reason they didn't have this conversation sooner was because Jaal was giving Ryder the cold shoulder for blowing up the Kett facility. I can imagine Jaal giving Evfra the cold shoulder for something or other and giving Evfra a ton of headaches to go with all the headaches he already has, leading the resistance. As much as he might like Jaal, having him go off so he can give Ryder the cold shoulder, could be a relief for Evfra. Evfra stands around looking grumpy and giving orders so having Jaal standing there ignoring him means the two of them stand there not talking to each other ever. Poor Evfra, he has so many headaches his headaches have headaches I like how he reacts to the Pathfinder's arrival as just another interruption in his long, long day And yes, I can definitely imagine these two standing there glowering at each other Jaal: - I'm not talking to you Evfra: - Fine. Do it somewhere else Tempest falls from the skyEvfra: - Yes, go and glare at them
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Post by vana on Jun 5, 2017 15:27:20 GMT
Onecrazymonkey1 : nice! beautiful details. I just always wondered why Jaal seems almost always older than the other Angaras, maybe the wrinkles? it depends on the angle of view, too. There is another Angara quite badass that I like, it's the one from the commandos who is giving you missions, in the Cultural center of the Nexus. I like his colors, he's a bit like an albinos Angara, and has a complicated name... what is it again... Andraknor! him: Oh, I just found that by accident and, you've seen it already but it never hurts to enjoy it again: I really love the design of his armor.
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Post by Psychedelic on Jun 5, 2017 16:22:22 GMT
My Ryder just had the conversation with Jaal, where Jaal tells him that he's not really a fighter and doesn't really fit in with the Resistance and even at his age, does not know what he wants to do with his life (not the exact words but something like that). The reason they didn't have this conversation sooner was because Jaal was giving Ryder the cold shoulder for blowing up the Kett facility. I can imagine Jaal giving Evfra the cold shoulder for something or other and giving Evfra a ton of headaches to go with all the headaches he already has, leading the resistance. As much as he might like Jaal, having him go off so he can give Ryder the cold shoulder, could be a relief for Evfra. Evfra stands around looking grumpy and giving orders so having Jaal standing there ignoring him means the two of them stand there not talking to each other ever. Poor Evfra, he has so many headaches his headaches have headaches I like how he reacts to the Pathfinder's arrival as just another interruption in his long, long day And yes, I can definitely imagine these two standing there glowering at each other Jaal: - I'm not talking to you Evfra: - Fine. Do it somewhere else Tempest falls from the skyEvfra: - Yes, go and glare at them Evfra explicitly says:"You talk too much, Jaal." when Jaal speaks up for the Pathfinder. He has probably been chewing Evfra's ear off before, while Evfra just glowers at him and occasionally grunts in response. I can't imagine Jaal can keep silent for too long in general (unless you blow up a certain Kett facility ). I suspect that if an angara ever tries to pet a cat, it's hair would stand from the static. Which a cat wouldn't appreciate Not only a cat wouldn't appreciate that. Thanks, now I have a mental image of Sara with her hair standing on end whenever she kisses Jaal.
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Post by vana on Jun 5, 2017 16:27:00 GMT
Does he really stop talking a long time when you blow up the Kett facility? I'm glad I didn't, then! it's hard to start a romantic relationship like this (and around the same moment I was panicking because I didn't have the flirt option yet, so it's better not to blow it up on the first playthrough)
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Post by Psychedelic on Jun 5, 2017 16:44:08 GMT
Does he really stop talking a long time when you blow up the Kett facility? I'm glad I didn't, then! it's hard to start a romantic relationship like this (and around the same moment I was panicking because I didn't have the flirt option yet, so it's better not to blow it up on the first playthrough) I did that on my first playthrough before the patches came out. I've heard they changed something with the pacing. I don't know if it's better now, but back then he just told me he is still upset with me for quite a long time whenever I tried to talk to him. I thought I might have ended any chance to romance him further and then I met Reyes... Jaal was lucky he came around before the showdown in the Kadara caves with Sloane and Reyes happened. I was very close to ditching him in Reyes' favor because he was sulking for so long.
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Post by yeah rip on Jun 5, 2017 17:36:58 GMT
Whoa... I leave for a week, get my shit together and start feeling better about myself, decide to return, and this place is almost dead! Big thanks to those who sent emails! They are the reason I returned. I also discovered the MEA hate is not as bad as I thought, so I stopped feeling depressed about being here, and the upcoming patch hype has me too excited to stay away! I'm also not here to relive the past. Just here to start over with a more sound mind and body than I had in months! LC Don't know about others, but I'm just too slammed from the RL stuff to think of anything substantial to post Though recently I've been feeling strong enough to start the game again and I discovered that Jaal keeps rubbing his eyes whenever I talk to him on Kadara - is he just sleepy or is he actually crying because of how much he hates Kadara?! And he still comes along every time because he doesn't want to miss out on anything. He's ridiculous lmao Welcome back!
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Whoa... I leave for a week, get my shit together and start feeling better about myself, decide to return, and this place is almost dead! Big thanks to those who sent emails! They are the reason I returned. I also discovered the MEA hate is not as bad as I thought, so I stopped feeling depressed about being here, and the upcoming patch hype has me too excited to stay away! I'm also not here to relive the past. Just here to start over with a more sound mind and body than I had in months! LC Don't know about others, but I'm just too slammed from the RL stuff to think of anything substantial to post Though recently I've been feeling strong enough to start the game again and I discovered that Jaal keeps rubbing his eyes whenever I talk to him on Kadara - is he just sleepy or is he actually crying because of how much he hates Kadara?! And he still comes along every time because he doesn't want to miss out on anything. He's ridiculous lmao Welcome back! I always thought he had a headache lol Thanks! Speaking of Jaal, his romance is great and everything, but I went the friendship path this time and it's just as beautiful! It was odd not romancing anyone, but I felt more connected to my crew equally and movie night was precious! Jaal himself and my Sara felt even closer too! I think not taking all the flirts helps that, so even if you romance him and commit, don't take the flirt options every time. Emotional is so much deeper!
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Jun 5, 2017 18:12:39 GMT
Onecrazymonkey1 : nice! beautiful details. I just always wondered why Jaal seems almost always older than the other Angaras, maybe the wrinkles? it depends on the angle of view, too. There is another Angara quite badass that I like, it's the one from the commandos who is giving you missions, in the Cultural center of the Nexus. I like his colors, he's a bit like an albinos Angara, and has a complicated name... what is it again... Andraknor! him: Oh, I just found that by accident and, you've seen it already but it never hurts to enjoy it again: I really love the design of his armor. Wow he's a pretty one and he seemed to escape my memory. Thanks for posting the pic, I'm going to keep a lookout for him on my next playthrough. His coloring and armor reminds me of a beautiful peacock. Whoa... I leave for a week, get my shit together and start feeling better about myself, decide to return, and this place is almost dead! Big thanks to those who sent emails! They are the reason I returned. I also discovered the MEA hate is not as bad as I thought, so I stopped feeling depressed about being here, and the upcoming patch hype has me too excited to stay away! I'm also not here to relive the past. Just here to start over with a more sound mind and body than I had in months! LC The other patch was ok but as the next one is the patch I've been waiting for, I've decided to be patient and hold off on another Sara play through. I've still been playing with Scott here and there but I prefer Sara, plus I've been really busy which is probably why I haven't been on as much, and Gwyvian is somewhere without internet access for a while. However, Vana has been injecting the thread with some interesting conversation. Anyway, welcome back!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2017 18:17:50 GMT
Onecrazymonkey1 I know! I can't help but feel this patch is going to be what we all have been waiting for too! I'm just goofing around myself. I was also watching a guy's full playthrough on YouTube and noticed that even if you don't commit to Jaal, you can still flirt with him at anytime! The guy wasn't romancing him and the "I adore you" option came up during one convo. Also it's so worth finding out all Alec's secrets! I saw the proper way it's suppose to go during the space battle if you unlocked all the memories! I admit I may have cried too... especially the audio logs... my heart! Thanks!
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