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Post by dhalion on Jun 7, 2017 1:33:09 GMT
It's simple. She's a homophobe. One of the biggest ones I've seen on here. Blackwall's armourplate, winged dick. looool I like how you responded to the wrong post to tell me this :lmfao: you're the dick whisperer
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Post by beholderess on Jun 7, 2017 1:33:17 GMT
guys, i know this will sound a little harsh but i am so disgusted right now with the LGBT community, dont get me wrong i am happy they got new gay romance option but imagine the shitstorm it would have created if Dorian was made bi from gay, its like they want things for themselves but if we ask for the same we get attacked just for asking, the double standards makes me wanna puke. I bet this post is going to get deleted by the time i get out of bed since i am straight and thus i have less rights than the gay, i cant insult them but they can insult me :DD: equality ...yeah :oki: You are misinformed. That is not even funny Are you for real? Need a facepalm smiley
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Post by vana on Jun 7, 2017 1:33:23 GMT
Yeah I can see that, but for me it's like an AU. Sara's story is AU and so is Scott's, and if the romanced sibling and the non-romanced one are both with Jaal, he won't suddenly start looking at the twin differently. He's yours and that's that. It was the case for Shepard and if it was Shepard instead of Ryder, I wouldn't have that impression, because both Shepards could not live in the same game at the same time. but Sara and Scott live in the game at the same time, they even wake up, so for me they are really different characters, and if Jaal says to Sara she is his soulmate, to me he's not going to fall for ANYONE else, even Peebee, Cora, Scott, anyone. Just like Gil is not going to fall in love with Sara if Scott is not around. That's how I see things so it breaks the magic of the romance. I don't have this impression with Reyes for example because he's meant to be like this from the beginning and he's not talking about soulmate or anything, he's a more pragmatic character.
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Post by fadburger on Jun 7, 2017 1:34:10 GMT
guys, i know this will sound a little harsh but i am so disgusted right now with the LGBT community, dont get me wrong i am happy they got new gay romance option but imagine the shitstorm it would have created if Dorian was made bi from gay, its like they want things for themselves but if we ask for the same we get attacked just for asking, the double standards makes me wanna puke. I bet this post is going to get deleted by the time i get out of bed since i am straight and thus i have less rights than the gay, i cant insult them but they can insult me :DD: equality ...yeah :oki: There is too much baggage for LGBT+ folks to do things "the other way around", equality is about bringing the people up from the fringes not making everything available to everybody. I'm sure an actual LGBT+ person can explain this better than I can, but yeah it doesn't work "in reverse" like that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 1:34:13 GMT
Yeah I can see that, but for me it's like an AU. Sara's story is AU and so is Scott's, and if the romanced sibling and the non-romanced one are both with Jaal, he won't suddenly start looking at the twin differently. He's yours and that's that. It was the case for Shepard and if it was Shepard instead of Ryder, I wouldn't have that impression, because both Shepards could not live in the same game at the same time. but Sara and Scoot live in the game at the same time, they even wake up, so for me they are really different characters, and if Jaal says to Sara she is his soulmate, to me he's not going to fall for ANYONE else, eve Peebee, Cora, Scott, anyone. Just like Gil is not going to fall in love with Sara if Scott is not around. That's how I see things so it breaks the magic of the romance. I don't have this impression with Reyes for example because he's meant to be like this from the beginning and he's not talking about soulmate or anything, he's a more pragmatic character. I'm with the people who think Reyes killed Jien to be honest. It fits too perfectly with how he acts.
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Post by ash on Jun 7, 2017 1:34:33 GMT
Blackwall's armourplate, winged dick. looool I like how you responded to the wrong post to tell me this :lmfao: you're the dick whisperer Ffffuck, I messed up up and down again, I'm a disgrace. Inability to get used to UI inconsistency is my weakness.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 7, 2017 1:35:16 GMT
guys, i know this will sound a little harsh but i am so disgusted right now with the LGBT community, dont get me wrong i am happy they got new gay romance option but imagine the shitstorm it would have created if Dorian was made bi from gay, its like they want things for themselves but if we ask for the same we get attacked just for asking, the double standards makes me wanna puke. I bet this post is going to get deleted by the time i get out of bed since i am straight and thus i have less rights than the gay, i cant insult them but they can insult me :DD: equality ...yeah :oki: You are misinformed. That is not even funny Are you for real? Need a facepalm smiley Here you go.
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Post by dhalion on Jun 7, 2017 1:36:49 GMT
There is too much baggage for LGBT+ folks to do things "the other way around", equality is about bringing the people up from the fringes not making everything available to everybody. I'm sure an actual LGBT+ person can explain this better than I can, but yeah it doesn't work "in reverse" like that. Gay and bi people get almost zero rep in media. It is 99% straight. This is why it would be wrong to take a gay character like Dorian amake him bi. Some straight people see that they now get 95% of the rep instead of 99% of it and call it "inequality."
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Post by fadburger on Jun 7, 2017 1:36:54 GMT
Yeah I can see that, but for me it's like an AU. Sara's story is AU and so is Scott's, and if the romanced sibling and the non-romanced one are both with Jaal, he won't suddenly start looking at the twin differently. He's yours and that's that. It was the case for Shepard and if it was Shepard instead of Ryder, I wouldn't have that impression, because both Shepards could not live in the same game at the same time. but Sara and Scoot live in the game at the same time, they even wake up, so for me they are really different characters, and if Jaal says to Sara she is his soulmate, to me he's not going to fall for ANYONE else, eve Peebee, Cora, Scott, anyone. Just like Gil is not going to fall in love with Sara if Scott is not around. That's how I see things so it breaks the magic of the romance. I don't have this impression with Reyes for example because he's meant to be like this from the beginning and he's not talking about soulmate or anything, he's a more pragmatic character. Well like LC said if you look at it from the POV that it's an AU, then in this universe Scott is the soulmate while at the same time in a different universe it is Sara. They exist at the same time and yet separately.
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Post by beholderess on Jun 7, 2017 1:37:20 GMT
You are misinformed. That is not even funny Are you for real? Need a facepalm smiley Here you go. How did you do that? I've been looking everywhere!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 1:37:36 GMT
It was the case for Shepard and if it was Shepard instead of Ryder, I wouldn't have that impression, because both Shepards could not live in the same game at the same time. but Sara and Scoot live in the game at the same time, they even wake up, so for me they are really different characters, and if Jaal says to Sara she is his soulmate, to me he's not going to fall for ANYONE else, eve Peebee, Cora, Scott, anyone. Just like Gil is not going to fall in love with Sara if Scott is not around. That's how I see things so it breaks the magic of the romance. I don't have this impression with Reyes for example because he's meant to be like this from the beginning and he's not talking about soulmate or anything, he's a more pragmatic character. Well like LC said if you look at it from the POV that it's an AU, then in this universe Scott is the soulmate while at the same time in a different universe it is Sara. They exist at the same time and yet separately. That's rather romantic.
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Post by Aurora on Jun 7, 2017 1:38:01 GMT
guys, i know this will sound a little harsh but i am so disgusted right now with the LGBT community, dont get me wrong i am happy they got new gay romance option but imagine the shitstorm it would have created if Dorian was made bi from gay, its like they want things for themselves but if we ask for the same we get attacked just for asking, the double standards makes me wanna puke. I bet this post is going to get deleted by the time i get out of bed since i am straight and thus i have less rights than the gay, i cant insult them but they can insult me :DD: equality ...yeah :oki: so you are going to be disgusted with a whole community over a game? That is a little....unhealthy. I am not going to even respond to your comments about how straight people have less rights than gay people. My sister is a lesbian, so I take offense to that. I see firsthand how difficult she has it. Now, moving on. EDIT: Also, no one insulted you. Just pointing that out
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 1:38:31 GMT
The thing is that: - Yes, m/m gay romances had less content than the ones for females players - BUT we should not forget that the female gamers (especially the straight ones) also had way less content than straight male gamers (remember ME3, straight female gamers could end up with NO romance just like me, who romanced Thane before, was locked with him/Kaidan could die in ME1 so yes, we could end up with absolutly NOTHING) so both gay AND straight females always had less options than straight males, so instead of fighting each other, let's fight together for more options for both straight women AND gay/bi people. - I'm glad that gay/bi gamers can enjoy Jaal now, you'll see, he's fantastic! - I can also understand some straight females who see the magic broken somewhere because, in opposition to Shepard who was either female or male, Scott Ryder AND Sara Ryder both exist in this story, at the same time. It means that the fairytale of the alien who says that Sara is his soulmate, came from another galaxy and luck and fate made them meet and fall in love, sounded romantic and like "it's you and only you, no one could have taken your place" (Jaal seems to have resisted the seduction attempts of all the other Angaras, and doesn't even end up with Peebee) but NOW in fact, they rewrite that in a way meaning "hey in fact, Sara would be the one in the coma, Jaal would have fallen in love with her brother instead". Story-wise is breaks the magic of the "unique soulmate". And I would have reacted the same way if Jaal was only m/m gay for example and said that Scott was his soulmate, and suddenly he's available for Sara and you realize that if Scott had stayed in the Hyperion, Jaal would have gone for Sara instead. It would break the magic of the "unique soulmate". I would feel the same if an unromanced Jaal would have ended up with Peebee or another person, it would be less romantic than the soulmate story. This is roleplay/story-wise. It has nothing to do with being bi or not (to bi or not to bi ) For gaming experience I totally understand that he is proposed for a new and cool experience for players who want m/m romance, and I'm happy for the people who will do that, especially if there is new content, that's cool. Storywise, it's up to you as the player. So if you decide to play as Scott for one playthrough, why not just make sure he doesn't romance Jaal, and then you can RP that when Sara wakes up and after Meridian she still romances Jaal? You're in control of who Jaal romances, it's not like this mandates that Scott has to romance Jaal. guys, i know this will sound a little harsh but i am so disgusted right now with the LGBT community, dont get me wrong i am happy they got new gay romance option but imagine the shitstorm it would have created if Dorian was made bi from gay, its like they want things for themselves but if we ask for the same we get attacked just for asking, the double standards makes me wanna puke. I bet this post is going to get deleted by the time i get out of bed since i am straight and thus i have less rights than the gay, i cant insult them but they can insult me :DD: equality ...yeah :oki: This is the worst thinly veiled argument I have ever seen. "You guys I'm totally happy for you but I want to puke and now I feel threatened that a minority group has more rights than me because a fictional character is bi." Not even considering the fact that your post history already lets everyone know how "happy" you really are for others. Luckily you can claim yourself a victim since you'll consider any response to your passive aggressive attack post as a demonstration of how you have less rights.
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Post by JewlieGhoulie on Jun 7, 2017 1:39:11 GMT
guys, i know this will sound a little harsh but i am so disgusted right now with the LGBT community, dont get me wrong i am happy they got new gay romance option but imagine the shitstorm it would have created if Dorian was made bi from gay, its like they want things for themselves but if we ask for the same we get attacked just for asking, the double standards makes me wanna puke. I bet this post is going to get deleted by the time i get out of bed since i am straight and thus i have less rights than the gay, i cant insult them but they can insult me :DD: equality ...yeah :oki: dorian being made bi and Jaal being bi are literally two different things 🙃Shhhhhh Also are you sure you're happy about this because last time you were sick over the gay community/ bi Jaal and posting some nasty stuff? Things you never apologized for or should I forget that I won't
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 1:39:16 GMT
Why does interacting with a few gay people on a gaming forum cause you to be disgusted with the LGBT community as a whole? If I'm arguing with a person on a gaming forum who is straight, would it make sense for me to suddenly be disgusted with all heterosexuals? On the entire planet? Wat? It's simple. She's a homophobe. One of the biggest ones I've seen on here. oh yeah homophobe that is why i have like 10 gay books in my kindle (Bloodraven by P.L. Nunn been my favourite) and watching gay porn when i want to have a good time, as i said i dont have a voice because if i speak i get attacked by people like u, but.... equality, yeeeeaaah
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Post by fuzzyshep on Jun 7, 2017 1:39:27 GMT
Yeaaaa. Guys, we're all better off not responding to ghostpants. They're just making another transparent attempt to stir things up.
MOVING ON FROM THAT. Does anyone still have that gif of BroRyder walking up to Jaal when they first land on Aya? I know somebody made it back in the trailer days and I miss it now.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 7, 2017 1:39:30 GMT
Here you go. How did you do that? I've been looking everywhere! Write : facepalm: without the space between the first : and the f. It's also among the emojis available on this site.
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Post by lilyenachaos on Jun 7, 2017 1:40:01 GMT
It was the case for Shepard and if it was Shepard instead of Ryder, I wouldn't have that impression, because both Shepards could not live in the same game at the same time. but Sara and Scoot live in the game at the same time, they even wake up, so for me they are really different characters, and if Jaal says to Sara she is his soulmate, to me he's not going to fall for ANYONE else, eve Peebee, Cora, Scott, anyone. Just like Gil is not going to fall in love with Sara if Scott is not around. That's how I see things so it breaks the magic of the romance. I don't have this impression with Reyes for example because he's meant to be like this from the beginning and he's not talking about soulmate or anything, he's a more pragmatic character. I'm with the people who think Reyes killed Jien to be honest. It fits too perfectly with how he acts. The fact that Reyes doesn't die when you shoot at him makes me think there is more importance to his character than what we see now. I want this patch yesterday. I was just commenting this morning on how I was bored with the game, but this news has made me want to play again. Next up, DLC news!
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Post by Rynnju on Jun 7, 2017 1:40:27 GMT
So anyways how about that Jaal? Anyone got that quality fic or fanart?
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Post by SofaJockey on Jun 7, 2017 1:40:55 GMT
guys, i know this will sound a little harsh but i am so disgusted right now with the LGBT community, dont get me wrong i am happy they got new gay romance option but imagine the shitstorm it would have created if Dorian was made bi from gay, its like they want things for themselves but if we ask for the same we get attacked just for asking, the double standards makes me wanna puke. I bet this post is going to get deleted by the time i get out of bed since i am straight and thus i have less rights than the gay, i cant insult them but they can insult me :DD: equality ...yeah :oki: Yes, it does sound harsh. As a straight guy, I'm not an expert on the gay experience, but let me share some points where in my opinion you are dead wrong, others have added their civil expert input already. First Jaal is Angaran, a race who have been said to be very emotional and loving - that a m/m has not previously been expressed in-game does not invalidate its existence. That's entirely different from Dorian who's sexuality as a gay person is much more explicit. No addition of this m/m romance impacts or reduces anyone else's enjoyment of the romances already existing in the game. There have been less m/m options in the game so far, so requests are not entitlement, that's just asking to play the game and get the achievements everyone else can. So no double standards at all. So no, I'm sorry that your post won't be deleted, I'll be leaving your views here to be seen.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 1:41:32 GMT
There is too much baggage for LGBT+ folks to do things "the other way around", equality is about bringing the people up from the fringes not making everything available to everybody. I'm sure an actual LGBT+ person can explain this better than I can, but yeah it doesn't work "in reverse" like that. Gay and bi people get almost zero rep in media. It is 99% straight. This is why it would be wrong to take a gay character like Dorian amake him bi. Some straight people see that they now get 95% of the rep instead of 99% of it and call it "inequality." hmm, its a good point.... pff your avatar though :lmfao:
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Post by Salty Drell on Jun 7, 2017 1:42:33 GMT
It's simple. She's a homophobe. One of the biggest ones I've seen on here. oh yeah homophobe that is why i have like 10 gay books in my kindle (Bloodraven by P.L. Nunn been my favourite) and watching gay porn when i want to have a good time, as i said i dont have a voice because if i speak i get attacked by people like u, but.... equality, yeeeeaaah Hahaha, so you watch gay porn and get off to it. That doesn't stop you from being a homophobe at all. What is that argument?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 1:42:52 GMT
I'm with the people who think Reyes killed Jien to be honest. It fits too perfectly with how he acts. The fact that Reyes doesn't die when you shoot at him makes me think there is more importance to his character than what we see now. I want this patch yesterday. I was just commenting this morning on how I was bored with the game, but this news has made me want to play again. Next up, DLC news! He won't even show himself when he wins, and we know it's a human man in similar clothing who killed her. I'd love for this to be fact! I was and still am planning to flirt with him up to when he reveals himself, end it and then accept Jaal's affections. Just add a bit of drama.
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Post by janalilith on Jun 7, 2017 1:43:00 GMT
guys, i know this will sound a little harsh but i am so disgusted right now with the LGBT community, dont get me wrong i am happy they got new gay romance option but imagine the shitstorm it would have created if Dorian was made bi from gay, its like they want things for themselves but if we ask for the same we get attacked just for asking, the double standards makes me wanna puke. I bet this post is going to get deleted by the time i get out of bed since i am straight and thus i have less rights than the gay, i cant insult them but they can insult me :DD: equality ...yeah :oki: But ghostpants, honestly the reason there would be people upset for Dorian being turned bi is because there wasn't a fully gay male character in a Bioware game (I think at least in Bioware, but also in a lot of other games I'm sure) at all that was a romance option. And one that wasn't bi and hitting on females in game; he liked men and talked about men and had a back story that was very important for his writer to share. It was a very important character for gay players to have. It's not the same thing you are alluding to when you realize this; there are no double standards when you take that into account. I wish you wouldn't say you were disgusted either; that's hurtful.
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