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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jun 7, 2017 14:31:26 GMT
I've lost my respect for Bioware. If they care so little about their own writing that they would change a character just because some fans weren't happy with him, then I can't take them seriously. I would have 0 problem with Jaal being bi if he was written like that from the start, but he's been straight for years and now they decided to change him just to throw a bone the fans and shut them up. If those who wanted to romance him as Scott are happy with that then fine, I guess, but I know I wouldn't be happy with an afterthought. Well, Jaal will always be straight for me because that's how he was written from the start. If Bioware doesn't care about their original intent, then at least someone should. Hate away, I don't care. THE SALT IS SO DELIGHTFUL
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 14:31:46 GMT
I have to stop reading the patch thread or I might punch a brick wall. Is it dudebros saying they're oppressed? :srs: They want Suvi bi, they think they made up the gender thing about Angara, but the Ambassador states in-game about being gender-fluid, and some are acting like the game is ruined forever.
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Post by PenDev0us on Jun 7, 2017 14:32:44 GMT
Good afternooooooooooooooooooon everyone! Isnt life beautiful? It will be better this next tuesday This next? As in... I HAVE TO WAIT A WEEK?! :sob:
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Post by Salty Drell on Jun 7, 2017 14:33:18 GMT
Is it dudebros saying they're oppressed? :srs: They want Suvi bi, they think they made up the gender thing about Angara, but the Ambassador states in-game about being gender-fluid, and some are acting like the game is ruined forever. So, usual dudebro behaviour then. Don't worry about it, the patch is happening and they can whine about it but it won't matter.
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Post by pieszka89 on Jun 7, 2017 14:33:27 GMT
Good afternooooooooooooooooooon everyone! Isnt life beautiful? It will be better this next tuesday This next? As in... I HAVE TO WAIT A WEEK?! :sob: I feel that they will release patch at least before E3 xD
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 14:34:40 GMT
They want Suvi bi, they think they made up the gender thing about Angara, but the Ambassador states in-game about being gender-fluid, and some are acting like the game is ruined forever. So, usual dudebro behaviour then. Don't worry about it, the patch is happening and they can whine but it won't matter. I know lol it's just the lack of logic hurts me more than combining Harbinger and the Archon's battle taunts into a remix CD.
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Post by PenDev0us on Jun 7, 2017 14:35:35 GMT
This next? As in... I HAVE TO WAIT A WEEK?! :sob: I feel that they will release patch at least before E3 xD *stares longingly at my calendar*
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Post by ninaskye on Jun 7, 2017 14:35:53 GMT
Still remaining neutral on the whole Bi-Jaal thing. I play as female PCs almost exclusively, so in the end it doesn't affect me. I just hope for all our sakes it doesn't end up being a cut and paste of Sara's romance. I also wonder how they're going to do this, since he was originally always intended to be female exclusive. This is going to be a big patch if they do end up making new cinematics/recording new lines.
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Post by JewlieGhoulie on Jun 7, 2017 14:36:11 GMT
When the post is so woefully dumb and homophobic that all you can do is respond with a Beyonce gif... Queen bee is always relevant 🙌 But yes
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Post by caladrius on Jun 7, 2017 14:36:22 GMT
I agree Caythleen this place was always welcoming for all, and the 3 or 4 who don't like Jaal bi is outnumbered by those of us who love it, so this place should go back to friendly, and the hate ignored since it's small and really just people telling their POV, then bowing out. caladrius haha yeah that's so true! Zev was my babe from the start and he was still at my Warden's side in DAI! I'm glad you like Zev! I love him. Most people always pick Alistair. It's always good to find another Zev fan.
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jun 7, 2017 14:36:32 GMT
Found this on twitter and can't agree more: All in all congrats to everyone who desired to romance Jaal with Scott but sadly I can't share the hype. And no, I'm not homo/biphobic, I'm actually bi myself and eager to see properly represented gay/bi characters in games. Therefore I feel kinda offended that bio treats sexuality as something that can be 'patched'. For me representation of the character means something more than minor changes in dialogues added after game release with the same background. It's just really painful to see how eagerly fandom approves this, indulging devs to keep substituting properly represented bi/gay characters for patched straight characters in the future. First of all, lol at the notion that BioWare has "done well with representation". Being the ONLY one doesn't make them GOOD. Jaal is a FICTIONAL character, EVERYTHING about him is changeable. It's not a statement about RL sexuality, that is pure nonsense. Besides which, early datamining indicated that he WOULD be bisexual, so as far as I'm concerned, they are just restoring his sexuality to what was originally intended. We also know that, during development, higher-ups already TRIED to change Vetra to make her straight, and Suvi to make her bisexual. That threat already existed. We didn't cause it by asking for fairness. What's really painful is seeing other LGBT people shoot our community in the foot with weird conspiracy theories about how making things fairer is bad. As for "proper representation", I don't know what you think that entails, but I have a feeling I would hate it.
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Post by Salty Drell on Jun 7, 2017 14:36:48 GMT
So, usual dudebro behaviour then. Don't worry about it, the patch is happening and they can whine but it won't matter. I know lol it's just the lack of logic hurts me more than combining Harbinger and the Archon's battle taunts into a remix CD. Yeah this is me whenever I read one of their comments.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 14:36:57 GMT
Still remaining neutral on the whole Bi-Jaal thing. I play as female PCs almost exclusively, so in the end it doesn't affect me. I just hope for all our sakes it doesn't end up being a cut and paste of Sara's romance. I also wonder how they're going to do this, since he was originally always intended to be female exclusive. This is going to be a big patch if they do end up making new cinematics/recording new lines. It's not. It's going to be new it seems. They had to write, edit, animate and get the voice actors to record new stuff.
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Post by JewlieGhoulie on Jun 7, 2017 14:37:49 GMT
Shame on Bioware for wanting to do the right thing and spread the voice of equality. Wtf?
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Post by Ryzaki on Jun 7, 2017 14:37:58 GMT
Wait people think bi romances mean that? Leliana was not that way at all, neither was Josie! Fenris too! I think the only LI that canon cheats on you is hetero dude, Jacob. lol Do not get me started on the heap of unfortunate implications that is Jacob.
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Post by JewlieGhoulie on Jun 7, 2017 14:38:30 GMT
I agree Caythleen this place was always welcoming for all, and the 3 or 4 who don't like Jaal bi is outnumbered by those of us who love it, so this place should go back to friendly, and the hate ignored since it's small and really just people telling their POV, then bowing out. caladrius haha yeah that's so true! Zev was my babe from the start and he was still at my Warden's side in DAI! I'm glad you like Zev! I love him. Most people always pick Alistair. It's always good to find another Zev fan. Zev is top tier. Love him way more than alistair fam
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Post by Salty Drell on Jun 7, 2017 14:38:52 GMT
Shame on Bioware for wanting to do the right thing and spread the voice of equality. Wtf? I know right? Why would you want to do that? :sure:
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jun 7, 2017 14:38:53 GMT
I've lost my respect for Bioware. If they care so little about their own writing that they would change a character just because some fans weren't happy with him, then I can't take them seriously. I would have 0 problem with Jaal being bi if he was written like that from the start, but he's been straight for years and now they decided to change him just to throw a bone the fans and shut them up. If those who wanted to romance him as Scott are happy with that then fine, I guess, but I know I wouldn't be happy with an afterthought. Well, Jaal will always be straight for me because that's how he was written from the start. If Bioware doesn't care about their original intent, then at least someone should. Hate away, I don't care. Bioware did the same with ME3 ending lol People didn't like that Shepard died so they released extended ending for the game. I really do not like when developer changes/adds something in game story wise/character wise because players demand it. It's their game. Their vision. Also everybody has a right to state their opinion. I do not see why some people are agressive towards other people simply because they state their own opinion. Even if they are in minority. We all should be tolerant towards each other's opinion and not attack anyone. Yeah, let's all be super-nice to the jerks who want to deny equality to LGBT people, for selfish reasons that make no sense.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 14:38:56 GMT
I agree Caythleen this place was always welcoming for all, and the 3 or 4 who don't like Jaal bi is outnumbered by those of us who love it, so this place should go back to friendly, and the hate ignored since it's small and really just people telling their POV, then bowing out. caladrius haha yeah that's so true! Zev was my babe from the start and he was still at my Warden's side in DAI! I'm glad you like Zev! I love him. Most people always pick Alistair. It's always good to find another Zev fan. He was my first DAO love. I am not fond of Alistair or how he acts at the Landsmeet. I will never kill Loghain and if I have to in order to romance him, then he's not the kind of guy I want. When Aaryn compared Jaal to him I was worried, but Jaal is more like Cullen, Thane and Javik and he calibrates like Garrus lol
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Post by chococri on Jun 7, 2017 14:39:42 GMT
Good afternooooooooooooooooooon everyone! Isnt life beautiful? It will be better this next tuesday This next? As in... I HAVE TO WAIT A WEEK?! :sob: Every patch is released every tuesday I think. But hey, if we get if before E3 Im totally down lol GIMME.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 14:41:14 GMT
Patches come out a few days after the notes, so tomorrow would make sense.
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Post by ninaskye on Jun 7, 2017 14:42:50 GMT
Still remaining neutral on the whole Bi-Jaal thing. I play as female PCs almost exclusively, so in the end it doesn't affect me. I just hope for all our sakes it doesn't end up being a cut and paste of Sara's romance. I also wonder how they're going to do this, since he was originally always intended to be female exclusive. This is going to be a big patch if they do end up making new cinematics/recording new lines. It's not. It's going to be new it seems. They had to write, edit, animate and get the voice actors to record new stuff. They did? Well colour me surprised, I was wrong. Congrats on all the guys that wanted to romance him and now will. I'm still going to stick to romancing him as Sara, though. And guys, please stop hating on people who have differing opinions. They're entitled to it.
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Post by CommonSpacePigeon on Jun 7, 2017 14:43:06 GMT
So ME also crept up on you and made itself comfortable in your heart? I mean, I'm usually... too detached from media I enjoy to even dare dip a toe in fandom (like I'm trying to do now, timidly), partly (maybe?) because I'm too much into the dev side of games (just a hobbyist with a degree and no desire for AAA dev, though, for now), but I think back at those scenes (Mordin, Rannoch to name a few) even when I'm nowhere near doing a playthrough and not in an analytical "how did they do this" way and then I knew I might possibly be able to call myself a fan. The ME3 soundtrack is part of my working-on-stuff-playlist, and I had to stop at a few tracks, because "too soon" x"D (Sry for messed-up grammar, today I even talk glrbsh in my native language x,x) *sniff* *sniff* DO I SMELL A POTENTIAL SOFTWARE DEV?! I was in my final year of Software Development at uni before leaving due to life+"sods law" happening, so I know the feel when playing a game and just suddenly slipping into thinking on the "how", rather than "wow"... and I gotta admit, I too usually stay on the sidelines of any fandom (usually for reasons of salt/toxicity avoidance hell you can even see it on this thread when salt is happening and I'm just tiptoeing round it all) but yeah... Mass Effect is a black hole that just sucked me in! Also the fanfics. Those glorious gifts from above that keep me wanting more~ Haha, nah, close-ish, in a way (we were in the same building as those guys in uni, though : D), but not quite. My degree is in game design and I'm more on the concept design/art side of things, but I do dabble in narrative design and, on occasion, systems design for personal projects as well. xD But yay for a fellow "how"-thinker! : D (not so yay for the bad-sounding things though D: ) (Oh yes, the avoidance is another reason! D: I'm ridiculously susceptible to other people's emotions if I don't detach myself quickly enough and when things get salty and heated I run away and hide). I didn't get into fanfics (yet?). Mostly because some ten years ago when I was into... Naruto was it, I think, I spent way too much of my time reading them. x"D Better not get tempted. Gotta need that spare time for other stuff. Like lurking here.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 14:44:33 GMT
It's not. It's going to be new it seems. They had to write, edit, animate and get the voice actors to record new stuff. They did? Well colour me surprised, I was wrong. Congrats on all the guys that wanted to romance him and now will. I'm still going to stick to romancing him as Sara, though. And guys, please stop hating on people who have differing opinions. They're entitled to it. Yeah and Tom said they were good lines and Nyasha tweeted today!
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jun 7, 2017 14:45:32 GMT
What I find horribly disgusting it's being sad over a fictional character while REAL PEOPLE were fucked with this situation. ANYWAY JAAL IS OURS NOW
I have to buy the game in about one hour when Game opens their doors, full price as I promised
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