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Post by Obiwancomeblowme on Jun 7, 2017 23:29:52 GMT
Imma say it again for those in the back, you can have 100 girlfriends in your past, still end up with a guy, and be bisexual. It doesn't matter if Jaal had a childhood romance with a female, flirted with Peebee and others on the crew because that doesn't erase bisexuality. Bisexual people aren't straight when they're in a m/f pairing or gay when in m/m f/f pairing. This whole topic is simply biphobia plain and simple.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 23:30:59 GMT
Actually we don't know whether he was ever 'intended' to be bi or not, we can only guess. Considering they had to have the VA record lines though, I'd lean towards no. Who gives a damn at this point though? He's bi now. :hearteyes: Looking forward, not back. Based on the bi coding and how they took 5 years to decide what to do and only wrapped things up quickly 2 years ago, I get this feeling they had no idea how to make him bi because no one was actually sure what the Angaran lore would be, so they kept him for Sara and went on to other things before it launched.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 23:33:37 GMT
Imma say it again for those in the back, you can have 100 girlfriends in your past, still end up with a guy, and be bisexual. It doesn't matter if Jaal had a childhood romance with a female, flirted with Peebee and others on the crew because that doesn't erase bisexuality. Bisexual people aren't straight when they're in a m/f pairing or gay when in m/m f/f pairing. This whole topic is simply biphobia plain and simple. Pretty much, but you can actually feel it being shoved at you. Zev, Fenris, Anders, none of them felt shoved at me like Jaal does. Can't really explain it, but it just felt like they were trying to hide their original plans and keep people who are not aware of how bisexual people are oblivious and positive he's straight. Some have even said reading the stuff here has opened their eyes.
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Post by dhalion on Jun 7, 2017 23:34:37 GMT
I'M BACK and we get to have Jaal tomorrow except I can't because I'm going on a trip. Oh well, Scott waited for him, now he can wait a little bit too
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Post by shechinah on Jun 7, 2017 23:35:50 GMT
I would love to have a character be clearly part of the ace spectrum. My fool's hope right now is Lexi maybe getting the Garrus and Tali treatment and becomes a LI in MEA2 if we continue with Ryder and if she does she is ace. You know, you'd think the asari of all people would have individuals that wouldn't be interested in slot play or loin rubbing given their method of reproduction and their mind meld. But then again, they did originate to fit the Green-Skinned Space Babe trope for Mass Effect.
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Post by chococri on Jun 7, 2017 23:35:53 GMT
Writers and animators worked for it. Bi Jaal will make sense, just wait and see tomorrow. New lines and scenes incoming.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 23:36:36 GMT
Writers and animators worked for it. Bi Jaal will make sense, just wait and see tomorrow. New lines and scenes incoming. Yep! It'll be much better than those mods!
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Jun 7, 2017 23:36:36 GMT
Actually we don't know whether he was ever 'intended' to be bi or not, we can only guess. Considering they had to have the VA record lines though, I'd lean towards no. Who gives a damn at this point though? He's bi now. :hearteyes: Looking forward, not back. Yeah, at this point I don't care anymore what sexuality they intended for Jaal in the beginning as it's all moot to me. I'm just happy other's are happy and can enjoy him now. I also hope that Bioware now knows not to make another game so unbalanced/unfair in romance options again.
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Post by chococri on Jun 7, 2017 23:37:17 GMT
I'M BACK and we get to have Jaal tomorrow except I can't because I'm going on a trip. Oh well, Scott waited for him, now he can wait a little bit too Same. Cant play the game until this sunday or maybe saturday, not sure. Love your avatar btw xD
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 23:37:29 GMT
Actually we don't know whether he was ever 'intended' to be bi or not, we can only guess. Considering they had to have the VA record lines though, I'd lean towards no. Who gives a damn at this point though? He's bi now. :hearteyes: Looking forward, not back. Yeah, at this point I don't care anymore what sexuality they intended for Jaal in the beginning as it's all moot to me. I'm just happy other's are happy and can enjoy him now. I also hope that Bioware now knows not to make another game so unbalanced/unfair in romance options again. A day ago I said they learned their lesson though I was still worried, and then Jaal was announced, so I think they learned it. Hopefully other BW games learn from this too.
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Post by Obiwancomeblowme on Jun 7, 2017 23:37:48 GMT
I'm so ready for the patch tomorrow at 8 AM PST. That's 11 AM EST for me. Does this mean the game will update then or that it'll be done at that time? I'm so antsy and an emotional wreck over the excitement for this that I can't think clearly about patches.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 23:38:54 GMT
I'm so ready for the patch tomorrow at 8 AM PST. That's 11 AM EST for me. Does this mean the game will update then or that it'll be done at that time? I'm so antsy and an emotional wreck over the excitement for this that I can't think clearly about patches. I think it'll start downloading at 11 AM (my time too)!
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Post by chococri on Jun 7, 2017 23:39:07 GMT
I'm so ready for the patch tomorrow at 8 AM PST. That's 11 AM EST for me. Does this mean the game will update then or that it'll be done at that time? I'm so antsy and an emotional wreck over the excitement for this that I can't think clearly about patches. You need to go to Origin and get the update. Origin usually let you know theres an update ready.
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Post by Obiwancomeblowme on Jun 7, 2017 23:39:31 GMT
I'm so ready for the patch tomorrow at 8 AM PST. That's 11 AM EST for me. Does this mean the game will update then or that it'll be done at that time? I'm so antsy and an emotional wreck over the excitement for this that I can't think clearly about patches. I think it'll start downloading at 11 AM (my time too)! Yippee! I think I will directly link my PC to the Internet via an Ethernet cord, so the download is faster. I hate that WiFi is slower.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 23:40:35 GMT
I think it'll start downloading at 11 AM (my time too)! Yippee! I think I will directly link my PC to the Internet via an Ethernet cord, so the download is faster. I hate that WiFi is slower. I'm on WIFI but connected to my home modem, so it might take 30 minutes or less for me.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 7, 2017 23:42:12 GMT
I would love to have a character be clearly part of the ace spectrum. My fool's hope right now is Lexi maybe getting the Garrus and Tali treatment and becomes a LI in MEA2 if we continue with Ryder and if she does she is ace. You know, you'd think the asari of all people would have individuals that wouldn't be interested in slot play or loin rubbing given their method of reproduction and their mind meld. But then again, they did originate to fit the Green-Skinned Space Babe trope for Mass Effect. Exactly. I've had a few good discussions with people about how the asari would great as an ace romance and that was a part of it. Due to how the asari work, they are the best at showing the different between romantic and sexual attraction. For example the culmination scene could be the protagonist and the asari cuddling somewhere and maybe doing a mindmeld but not have sex involved, sort of like the scene with Liara on Earth in ME3.
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Post by janalilith on Jun 7, 2017 23:43:10 GMT
Yay Gwyvian . She returns. Yes, summary of last, what 20 something pages... hmmm... JAAL IS BI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*Cough* Ok, I'll go calm down now. *climbs back into Onecrazymonkey1 's pocket for safekeeping* Just chirp when you're hungry so I can feed you. I'll keep you safe but I don't want you to starve. also @ anyone who can answer. I saw something about kestrel mentioning a shitshow on the previous page. Is the patch not going to be out tomorrow or did I miss something? Oh no worries, I always come prepared with snacks lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 23:44:02 GMT
I have a question! PeeBee says the Angara are like the Asari, Liam says they are like the Turians, and the Angara want to ally with the Krogan. Who do you think they are most like?
Edit: Oh and Jaal says they are like the Quarians!
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Post by Obiwancomeblowme on Jun 7, 2017 23:46:12 GMT
I have a question! PeeBee says the Angara are like the Asari, Liam says they are like the Turians, and the Angara want to ally with the Krogan. Who do you think they are most like? Honestly, I feel the Resistance is like the Turians, emotionally and intellectually on a similar level to the Asari, and the Roekaar could be like the Krogan. I can see why the Angara would want to ally themselves with the Krogan for protection purposes. I feel the Angara could be a lot like the Drell. I don't know much about them, as I only have read the Wiki on them, but aren't they religious and pretty sneaky? Sounds like Angara to me! Awesome sauce everywhere! Edit: Also I can see Angara being like Quarians because they're a small number of people and are quite techie!
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Post by ninaskye on Jun 7, 2017 23:47:19 GMT
I have a question! PeeBee says the Angara are like the Asari, Liam says they are like the Turians, and the Angara want to ally with the Krogan. Who do you think they are most like? Edit: Oh and Jaal says they are like the Quarians! I get the impression that they're a composite of all of them. But they're also their own thing as well. EDIT: Speaking of the Drell, have we heard anything about their Ark? I've noticed that, outside of Thane and Kolyat, we never saw any Drell NPCs. Would be nice to see some of them in future ME games.
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Post by maskedbird on Jun 7, 2017 23:47:49 GMT
I have a question! PeeBee says the Angara are like the Asari, Liam says they are like the Turians, and the Angara want to ally with the Krogan. Who do you think they are most like? Edit: Oh and Jaal says they are like the Quarians! I feel like they are a mix of the Asari and the quarians?
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Post by vana on Jun 7, 2017 23:47:55 GMT
No need to see biophobia everywhere, I think that a lot of people just don't know much about bi people, OR just like Lady Consular said, were really ok with the idea of Jaal being bi from the start, but then in-game it seems the devs made a lot of efforts to make him the ladies'men, and now going back and making him bi could be a bit confusing for a lot of people. It's not about the fact that of course you can be bi even after 100 girlfriends, it's about how people have perceived the character through all these flirt, dialogues, etc.
It would have been better if there were hints here and there to show he was really open to both, especially if they pretend that the angaras are soooo open about that.
They say angaras are emotional, too, and open with their feelings, but Jaal hides his feelings for a long time and many angaras do not seem open at all with their feelings, so it's a bit confusing too. I wish we had more proof of how emotional or open with feelings the angaras are. The main other Angaras we can talk with are Evfra and the Moshae and they're not open at all...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2017 23:48:18 GMT
I have a question! PeeBee says the Angara are like the Asari, Liam says they are like the Turians, and the Angara want to ally with the Krogan. Who do you think they are most like? Honestly, I feel the Resistance is like the Turians, emotionally and intellectually on a similar level to the Asari, and the Roekaar could be like the Krogan. I can see why the Angara would want to ally themselves with the Krogan for protection purposes. I feel the Angara could be a lot like the Drell. I don't know much about them, as I only have read the Wiki on them, but aren't they religious and pretty sneaky? Sounds like Angara to me! Awesome sauce everywhere! Edit: Also I can see Angara being like Quarians because they're a small number of people and are quite techie! Yeah I agree and like nina said, it's almost as if they are a mix of all of them, and also unique too.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 7, 2017 23:48:47 GMT
I have a question! PeeBee says the Angara are like the Asari, Liam says they are like the Turians, and the Angara want to ally with the Krogan. Who do you think they are most like? Edit: Oh and Jaal says they are like the Quarians! Humans. Just like humans, angara show a combination of the traits of the other Milky Way races.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Jun 7, 2017 23:49:00 GMT
I have a question! PeeBee says the Angara are like the Asari, Liam says they are like the Turians, and the Angara want to ally with the Krogan. Who do you think they are most like? Edit: Oh and Jaal says they are like the Quarians! They don't seem as strict or militaristic like the Turian's, or as brash and warlike as Krogans. Honestly the Angara seem the most like humans in their randomness to me.
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