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Post by janalilith on Jun 9, 2017 4:48:18 GMT
I'm skimming a lot of posts here because I'm trying not to spoil the romance, so if I don't comment on part of your post, that's why lol. I played a lot today and got the first "friendship" thing with Jaal before signing off for the night. This is exciting.
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Post by Gilsa on Jun 9, 2017 5:11:18 GMT
This is the lucky stud who is gonna get it on with Jaal. God, why is this hairstyle attached to so many shitty people. Like Sloane and Jill. ;; You are giving that hairstyle a lot of class!
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Post by ninaskye on Jun 9, 2017 5:17:32 GMT
Am I the only one that often stops at the place where the Yavara are just to watch and listen to them? They should be an optional Jaal date.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Jun 9, 2017 5:31:42 GMT
lmao I just realized my Scott has the same haircut as his mom. OOPS. I'm keeping it This is the hairstyle I mentioned on the previous page that I liked on Scott. He wears it really well and looks damn good imo. When I do another Scott play through it's probably going to be the one that I use, well that one or the bob.
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 9, 2017 5:37:56 GMT
What makes Scott x Jaal very emotional is that it's essentially two soldiers finding love amidst troubling times, on the battlefield. Finding someone to lean on and depend on, someone who you fight for and with, and who also fights for you, it's fantastic.
One of my favorite books was about two Finnish soldiers falling in love with each other during WW2. Though that book ended with the other dude ending up with a wife and kids, and eventually dying, while the other ends up banging the other dudes (grand)son. Now I hope that won't be the case with me and Jaal..
The point is, the bonds created during war, on the battlefield, are usually the strongest ones, with a lot of emotional investment. It also really enhances the from strangers to friends to lovers aspect with Jaal.
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Post by ninaskye on Jun 9, 2017 5:42:45 GMT
Kind of like Jaal x Sara bonding over their curiosity of each other's species. It's wonderful how both the Ryder twins connect to him in different ways. I just got the email about the facial reconstruction. Apparently the suite runs on "antiquated xenon". More DA references.
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Jun 9, 2017 5:45:11 GMT
What makes Scott x Jaal very emotional is that it's essentially two soldiers finding love amidst troubling times, on the battlefield. Finding someone to lean on and depend on, someone who you fight for and with, and who also fights for you, it's fantastic. One of my favorite books was about two Finnish soldiers falling in love with each other during WW2. Though that book ended with the other dude ending up with a wife and kids, and eventually dying, while the other ends up banging the other dudes (grand)son. Now I hope that won't be the case with me and Jaal.. The point is, the bonds created during war, on the battlefield, are usually the strongest ones, with a lot of emotional investment. It also really enhances the from strangers to friends to lovers aspect with Jaal. That would be worse than a Jacob scenario O___O. I know that many have wanted a m/m KISA option for a while now, In your opinion does Jaal count as a KISA? I'm not entirely sure what goes into making one aside from them being lawfully good.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2017 5:49:20 GMT
What makes Scott x Jaal very emotional is that it's essentially two soldiers finding love amidst troubling times, on the battlefield. Finding someone to lean on and depend on, someone who you fight for and with, and who also fights for you, it's fantastic. One of my favorite books was about two Finnish soldiers falling in love with each other during WW2. Though that book ended with the other dude ending up with a wife and kids, and eventually dying, while the other ends up banging the other dudes (grand)son. Now I hope that won't be the case with me and Jaal.. The point is, the bonds created during war, on the battlefield, are usually the strongest ones, with a lot of emotional investment. It also really enhances the from strangers to friends to lovers aspect with Jaal. Perfect way of explaining it! And no worries, Jaal is not going to die. I would be shocked if he was killed off with how much we all love him. He's the new Garrus popularity-wise. I think there's no other way the Jaal and Scott romance could work but as you stated. Sara and Jaal bond through being curious, their thirst for knowledge and have this youthful love of adventure (hence the twirling). Scott and Jaal don't go from youthful to adult like Sara and Jaal, they are already adults and instead of maturing in their relationship, it's enhanced and strengthened on the battlefield.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2017 5:52:39 GMT
Kind of like Jaal x Sara bonding over their curiosity of each other's species. It's wonderful how both the Ryder twins connect to him in different ways. I just got the email about the facial reconstruction. Apparently the suite runs on "antiquated xenon". More DA references. AHHH I love it!!! Haha
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2017 5:59:52 GMT
OMG OMG OMG the new scene when you first get the Tempest is just I am drooling like Liam did over the Nomad!!!
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Post by pieszka89 on Jun 9, 2017 7:08:11 GMT
Final rant and then I'm finished! I can't believe I once thought Jaal being straight is how it should be once I got the game (a part of me didn't, but I wouldn't listen). He's so much still my precious guy and nothing has changed! It's like people think he'll act differently or something. The more I play, the more things are the same, the more angry I get at those who want him straight and the more angry I get at myself for once agreeing with them. So fucking ashamed of myself for letting them get to me like that... ok rant over! Ofcourse nothing changed after they changed him to Bi. He still treats Sara the way he does. Only problem is HOW Bioware did it and after WHAT time? 3 Months after game release. I will say it again if they weren't sure who Jaal should be maybe they should have not released game in March. They also had many more things to fix before game release so no just this one thing. I understand people who lost respect to Bioware because they change character on demand of other players. Would any of you like if someone demanded you to change in any aspect? For example making you to like something you don't? And ofcourse now the comments like "Omg stop being homophobe its just a game..." 1) Yes it is a game but it gives people example that they can force change people IRL to. Movies books, music and games are sometimes examples for others how to act. 2) Why calling someone homophobe only because they do not agree with Bioware that they change character after a game release (not that they are Bi but the way they do it). I can understand people who do not want to support developer (Bioware in this case) if they lost respect towards them. What is wrong with that? They can do what they want. It is not slavery that everyone has to agree with everybody else. And if they don't they are called idiots, stupid etc etc. (Copy paste any insulting phrase here.) Privately I lost respect to Blizzard, Ubisoft and slowly loosing all respect towards Bioware aswell. I do not like companies that give out not finished game/product or can't hang/stick to their vision of the game, story and characters and change them just to please others. It's like I have no trust to them that what I was expecting in the future with next products will not be suddenly changed after release. Also think how the writers of characters, story archs just feel when after release game company changed their vision, even if it was accepted by them before game release? Only company I still trust is CD Projekt Red and damn they can have all the damn time to make a perfect game out of Cyberpunk 2077 yet people complain that they are taking sooooo LONG. But if the game would be released earlier with a cost of tons of bugs and uncertainty (like MEA was released to early in my opinion) players also would not be happpy because "Oh god... unfinished game omg..." In other words developers can't make all players happy at the same time. And those players that aren't happy with how developer acts etc should not be attacted by those who agree with the developers. If it's what those players think it's their buisness untill ofcourse they do not force their vision on others.
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Post by caladrius on Jun 9, 2017 7:13:08 GMT
What makes Scott x Jaal very emotional is that it's essentially two soldiers finding love amidst troubling times, on the battlefield. Finding someone to lean on and depend on, someone who you fight for and with, and who also fights for you, it's fantastic. One of my favorite books was about two Finnish soldiers falling in love with each other during WW2. Though that book ended with the other dude ending up with a wife and kids, and eventually dying, while the other ends up banging the other dudes (grand)son. Now I hope that won't be the case with me and Jaal.. The point is, the bonds created during war, on the battlefield, are usually the strongest ones, with a lot of emotional investment. It also really enhances the from strangers to friends to lovers aspect with Jaal. That would be worse than a Jacob scenario O___O. I know that many have wanted a m/m KISA option for a while now, In your opinion does Jaal count as a KISA? I'm not entirely sure what goes into making one aside from them being lawfully good. I mean, don't be too hasty. Which one of us gets the grandson? :heh: IMO, Jaal fits a lot of the KISA tropes. I noticed in the old KISA thread, people have extremely varied views on what it meant. Some people only really thought a DA Cullen type would fill it, while others thought any vaguely "lawful good" type would. I'm usually only really into the ones on the fringes, though, so this works for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2017 7:24:42 GMT
It's sad people can't just be happy. Around the net you have people who hate bi Jaal, people who love him, people saying the Scott romance is better than Sara's and vice versa, people attacking straight women, people attacking gay men... what a world...
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Jun 9, 2017 7:28:05 GMT
That would be worse than a Jacob scenario O___O. I know that many have wanted a m/m KISA option for a while now, In your opinion does Jaal count as a KISA? I'm not entirely sure what goes into making one aside from them being lawfully good. I mean, don't be too hasty. Which one of us gets the grandson? :heh: IMO, Jaal fits a lot of the KISA tropes. I noticed in the old KISA thread, people have extremely varied views on what it meant. Some people only really thought a DA Cullen type would fill it, while others thought any vaguely "lawful good" type would. I'm usually only really into the ones on the fringes, though, so this works for me. lol :sure: Thanks for taking the time to answer. I remember talking to someone a while back where I thought Alistair would've made the perfect KISA but they told me he didn't qualify in their opinion, so I ended up being confused as to what exactly makes a KISA a KISA. As for myself, I've always leaned more towards the morally grey type or dashing rogues, Jaal being the one exception.
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Post by sinner07 on Jun 9, 2017 7:34:34 GMT
Lol I just got back and heard the news, bought the game upon release and been waiting for patches to play it. I can not tell you how surprised and thrilled I am that Jaal has been made bi. And screw all the dumb ass haters. You're a fool to think crying "BUT HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE STRAIGHT," isn't in any way homophobic. For one, your sexuality makes up but a fraction of who you are. And secondly, even I know that the there are hints in the coding and by devs in old statements and what not that Jaal was originally going to be bisexual. Get a grip. And on that note, time for me to FINALLY enjoy Andromeda!
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Jun 9, 2017 7:34:56 GMT
It's sad people can't just be happy. Around the net you have people who hate bi Jaal, people who love him, people saying the Scott romance is better than Sara's and vice versa, people attacking straight women, people attacking gay men... what a world... Did you wander into the general forums again? I stay out of there. Most in the romance thread and Jaal thread are happy now, don't let trolls get to you. I think the haters are in the minority......I hope. lol and Jaal is exactly the same, he didn't change one bit, just added more love to go around. People can be so looney.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2017 7:35:50 GMT
It's sad people can't just be happy. Around the net you have people who hate bi Jaal, people who love him, people saying the Scott romance is better than Sara's and vice versa, people attacking straight women, people attacking gay men... what a world... Did you wander into the general forums again? I stay out of there. Most in the romance thread and Jaal thread are happy now, don't let trolls get to you. I think the haters are in the minority......I hope. lol and Jaal is exactly the same, he didn't change one bit, just added more love to go around. People can be so looney. Was continuing watching a playthrough on YouTube... bad mistake...
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Jun 9, 2017 7:37:59 GMT
Did you wander into the general forums again? I stay out of there. Most in the romance thread and Jaal thread are happy now, don't let trolls get to you. I think the haters are in the minority......I hope. lol and Jaal is exactly the same, he didn't change one bit, just added more love to go around. People can be so looney. Was continuing watching a playthrough on YouTube... bad mistake... Bad comments? youtube is filled with horrible comments. I think people just shit on people on the internet most of the time because they can hide behind a screen.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2017 7:39:55 GMT
Was continuing watching a playthrough on YouTube... bad mistake... Bad comments? youtube is filled with horrible comments. I think people just shit on people on the internet most of the time because they can hide behind a screen. Oh yeah it was just disgusting! The poor girl was continuing her Jaal romance with Sara from weeks ago and these guys (who I KNOW were NOT gay) just went at her about it. When I checked back later she disabled comments then her vid was gone.
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Post by caladrius on Jun 9, 2017 7:41:06 GMT
I mean, don't be too hasty. Which one of us gets the grandson? :heh: IMO, Jaal fits a lot of the KISA tropes. I noticed in the old KISA thread, people have extremely varied views on what it meant. Some people only really thought a DA Cullen type would fill it, while others thought any vaguely "lawful good" type would. I'm usually only really into the ones on the fringes, though, so this works for me. lol :sure: Thanks for taking the time to answer. I remember talking to someone a while back where I thought Alistair would've made the perfect KISA but they told me he didn't qualify in their opinion, so I ended up being confused as to what exactly makes a KISA a KISA. As for myself, I've always leaned more towards the morally grey type or dashing rogues, Jaal being the one exception. I guess maybe Alistair wasn't "lawful" enough for them. I can believe it, because I actually don't hate Alistair. Having read a lot of the old KISA thread, I know there isn't a single, agreed upon definition. It was debated pretty much all the time. I think most people would still consider Alistair a KISA, though. I totally relate to your preference, though. I'm really into the dashing rogues. Zev, Reyes and Dorian are easy some of my favorites, but then I saw people argue for pages, again and again, that Dorian is a KISA in the old thread. I think a lot of gay/bi men will be really happy with Jaal as a plot important, very romantic and clearly committed LI without any betrayal subplots or anything like that. Personally, I like Jaal because he's "good" without being self-righteous or too blindly committed to ideology over context.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2017 7:45:43 GMT
Oh dear the 2 naked Jaal's bug is back it seems! Also "Earn Your Badge" is fixed SofaJockey ! Time for bed! Good night all!
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Post by witchcocktor on Jun 9, 2017 8:04:48 GMT
God, this face reconstruction tool is going to be the end of me.. The fact that it's THERE and easily accessible just makes me continuously go back to it whenever there's one bad angle that makes my Ryder look meh.
Then, there are those frivolous changes one makes like '' Jaal can't grab my hair, so I gotta change my hairstyle to something longer and something he can grab in his fist. '' And then you end up changing more until your Ryder is not the same person you started out with. Damn..
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Post by Onecrazymonkey1 on Jun 9, 2017 8:05:55 GMT
Bad comments? youtube is filled with horrible comments. I think people just shit on people on the internet most of the time because they can hide behind a screen. Oh yeah it was just disgusting! The poor girl was continuing her Jaal romance with Sara from weeks ago and these guys (who I KNOW were NOT gay) just went at her about it. When I checked back later she disabled comments then her vid was gone. Probably like that guy who said women ruin gaming? I drink their salty tears. Sad for the girl, people can really suck. Hopefully she's ok. lol :sure: Thanks for taking the time to answer. I remember talking to someone a while back where I thought Alistair would've made the perfect KISA but they told me he didn't qualify in their opinion, so I ended up being confused as to what exactly makes a KISA a KISA. As for myself, I've always leaned more towards the morally grey type or dashing rogues, Jaal being the one exception. I guess maybe Alistair wasn't "lawful" enough for them. I can believe it, because I actually don't hate Alistair. Having read a lot of the old KISA thread, I know there isn't a single, agreed upon definition. It was debated pretty much all the time. I think most people would still consider Alistair a KISA, though. I totally relate to your preference, though. I'm really into the dashing rogues. Zev, Reyes and Dorian are easy some of my favorites, but then I saw people argue for pages, again and again, that Dorian is a KISA in the old thread. I think a lot of gay/bi men will be really happy with Jaal as a plot important, very romantic and clearly committed LI without any betrayal subplots or anything like that. Personally, I like Jaal because he's "good" without being self-righteous or too blindly committed to ideology over context. I don't hate Alistair either, I think what saves him for me is his sense of humor but he's still no match for zev, imo of course. As for Dorian, I loved him as well,( up until he ditched me with crystal skype) but I never saw him as a KISA, so that's something new for me to think over. I think humor is probably what will end up attracting me the most and can save a goody goody character for me, even if they're generally not my preference. I really had trouble liking Aveline, or Cullen for example. I don't know how far you've gotten with Jaal yet so I wont spoil anything, but I think you'll notice that after a while he likes to troll people a bit and it's glorious. Also, If there is ever going to be an Andromeda 2 we need to make sure Bioware doesn't get ideas about betrayal or death, a little drama is fine as long as you can work through it but I can see how it can get old after a while. I can just imagine what the next dragon age will be like for Solas fans, and frankly I'm afraid of Dorian or zev popping up in future games because I don't want them killed off. Solas I kind of accepted already that he'll die. Uhhhh I'm starting to ramble but I'm a bit tired, so I'm going to sign off now. Sweet dreams J'all
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Post by Obiwancomeblowme on Jun 9, 2017 8:13:34 GMT
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I made a silly photo! Not silly, I signed in just to like it . Both look like total bad asses. I'm really going to bed now though so goodnight again.
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