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Post by Panda on Feb 23, 2017 16:52:50 GMT
why would they make them shit in the first place though? Maybe the same reason it took 3 games to any gay male option at all in this franchise? It's not a reach to say that gay men are at the very bottom of the 'food-chain' in this series and an afterthought in developers' minds It has been multiple years. They should know better by now.
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Post by Solas on Feb 23, 2017 16:52:58 GMT
okay, thanks my friend gaycaravaggio more reaction from me on the leaked romances list I'm praying Liam or Jaal turns out in the end to be bi :/ what could BW be thinking not having an m/m romance on the squad?????????????
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Post by elanor on Feb 23, 2017 16:54:17 GMT
I just watched video. Is that confirmation that we have only six squadmates?
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Post by relay314 on Feb 23, 2017 16:54:28 GMT
4 DAMN GAMES WITHOUT M/M ALIEN LI Bioware what are you SO AFRAID OF. </3
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 16:55:02 GMT
omg would you tell us? no worries if you can't. I'll tell you over PM. I've already been way too chatty about it, tbh. I need more self-restraint. Can you or Solas paste the info you send and pm me. I'm curious.
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Post by chococri on Feb 23, 2017 16:55:22 GMT
But if Bioware have a huge wave of preorders being cancelled? That would be a signal for them? lol
They can change before the release the orientation of the squadmates, right? Or is too much work for less than a month? I still want to believe... *Cries*
I dont want to play as female again... Pls...
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Post by Panda on Feb 23, 2017 16:55:41 GMT
About ladyconsular 's leak
I still hope that isn't true. Because not only it would really kill my buzz about Jaal and ME:A at the moment- it would really made me mad at Bioware too. It is unfair. I can't really believe they would be moving backwards. They should know their players by now and also what is expected from them. Sorry, but this is making me really mad.
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Post by Salty Drell on Feb 23, 2017 16:56:26 GMT
If there truly is no m/m option in the squad, I am not buying. I will not give BioWare money and encourage this complete lack of care for m/m romances. I seriously hope it's not true and there is a m/m option but if it is then it's just not okay.
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Post by Petroshenko on Feb 23, 2017 16:56:43 GMT
I just watched video. Is that confirmation that we have only six squadmates? Pretty much. There may be some temprorary Prologue squadmate (like Jien, Alec) but otherwise, unless there's some super spoilery plot-critical squadmate added/replacing later in the game like The Archon (aka main villain switching sides like Death's Hand in Jade Empire) then that's it. And they reconfirmed cut Salarian squadmate.
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Post by Ajna on Feb 23, 2017 16:56:47 GMT
Okay guys. Confession time. gaycaravaggio has been informing me of stuff and yes, she knows people at BW. My list I made that caused homophobic hate directed at me? I got from her, from her friend there. I promised to keep it secret and now I can be honest about my suddenly changing in mood toward Jaal's romance rumors. She also wants you to know anything could have changed, but so far: Straight Scott with Cora/PeeBee/Vetra Straight Sara with Liam/Jaal Lesbian Sara with PeeBee/Vetra is correct... Wow, never thought we'd go back to ME1 standards of not giving a fuck. Disappointed that I'm wrong.
I remember you leaving the Solas thread disappointed too Ceol, it's not fair
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Post by chococri on Feb 23, 2017 16:56:55 GMT
I just watched video. Is that confirmation that we have only six squadmates? For now seems like that. I expected 9 but if we have 6 elaborated squadmates I'm fine with that.
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Post by fialka on Feb 23, 2017 16:57:11 GMT
And my news summary for page 380 is complete! Phew! I tagged the spoilers very carefully, so it should be safe for everyone!
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Post by Pon.ee on Feb 23, 2017 16:57:26 GMT
A++++ His visor is on the wrong eye?
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Post by relay314 on Feb 23, 2017 16:57:55 GMT
@ ladyconsular leak:
Man this is ME3 and Garrus all over again, OPENING ALL THESE OLD WOUNDS. ;___________;
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 16:58:00 GMT
About ladyconsular 's leak
I still hope that isn't true. Because not only it would really kill my buzz about Jaal and ME:A at the moment- it would really made me mad at Bioware too. It is unfair. I can't really believe they would be moving backwards. They should know their players by now and also what is expected from them. Sorry, but this is making me really mad.
I know. Like I said we and I spent nights talking about it and trying to find a loop hole. It's always still a possibility, it's just the info today is not helping convince me we are wrong.
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Post by carcinnamon on Feb 23, 2017 16:58:19 GMT
Alright, just gonna vent about this romance spoiler. Thanks to gaycaravaggio and @ladyconsular for sharing it, but I've got to get my feelings on the matter out there. I'm seriously hoping it's not true, but I've officially dropped my expectations. Not sure what my first playthrough will be anymore, knowing that I apparently can't have an m/m romance on the squad...it's literally something that BioWare has never done, and apparently, something they will never do! Which I find absolutely ridiculous.
I just don't know if I could force myself to play as a female Ryder only to romance Jaal, you know? It feels ridiculous to me that they would pull this AGAIN, after three games in a row having no bi/gay male options on the squad. So if this leak happens to be true, I'm gonna have some words for BioWare, supposed "champion" of LGBT+ content that they claim to be. Alright, rant over. Phew! Hopefully that'll make me feel a bit better about all this.
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Post by saberchic on Feb 23, 2017 16:58:23 GMT
Okay guys. Confession time. gaycaravaggio has been informing me of stuff and yes, she knows people at BW. My list I made that caused homophobic hate directed at me? I got from her, from her friend there. I promised to keep it secret and now I can be honest about my suddenly changing in mood toward Jaal's romance rumors. She also wants you to know anything could have changed, but so far: Straight Scott with Cora/PeeBee/Vetra Straight Sara with Liam/Jaal Lesbian Sara with PeeBee/Vetra is correct... But it's not correct because it is still a leak- a leak that might not be true anymore, if it was even true to begin with. The truth is we have no idea about Jaal's sexuality. None. Indeed. We have this leak here and then contradicting observations (among themselves even) released today from the press. I think people need to be cautious to the "information" that is out there.
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Post by azogthenailfiler on Feb 23, 2017 16:59:46 GMT
A++++ His visor is on the wrong eye? Yeah I noticed that too. Maybe it's not him???
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 17:00:11 GMT
But it's not correct because it is still a leak- a leak that might not be true anymore, if it was even true to begin with. The truth is we have no idea about Jaal's sexuality. None. Indeed. We have this leak here and then contradicting observations (among themselves even) released today from the press. I think people need to be cautious to the "information" that is out there. Everything we know is from a person at BW who is also not sure, so let's just take a breath.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 17:00:20 GMT
Okay guys. Confession time. gaycaravaggio has been informing me of stuff and yes, she knows people at BW. My list I made that caused homophobic hate directed at me? I got from her, from her friend there. I promised to keep it secret and now I can be honest about my suddenly changing in mood toward Jaal's romance rumors. She also wants you to know anything could have changed, but so far: Straight Scott with Cora/PeeBee/Vetra Straight Sara with Liam/Jaal Lesbian Sara with PeeBee/Vetra is correct... :( Not going to lie, this is enough to make me want to cancel my preorder. It is heartbreaking to me that we are the only ones who aren't allowed to enjoy a romance with a squadmate. Sorry to hear that. Maybe there will be a fairly easy code access to remove the gender lock. I sort of grew attached to the idea of a MM romance with Jaal as well, so I'd apply the mod if it becomes available. If the game is replayable....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 17:00:20 GMT
About ladyconsular 's leak
I still hope that isn't true. Because not only it would really kill my buzz about Jaal and ME:A at the moment- it would really made me mad at Bioware too. It is unfair. I can't really believe they would be moving backwards. They should know their players by now and also what is expected from them. Sorry, but this is making me really mad.
Yep. There is no excuse for it. All my hype and excitement has been totally drained. It is a huge insult to me, that we are an afterthought again. That they actually think this is justifiable. If there truly is no m/m option in the squad, I am not buying. I will not give BioWare money and encourage this complete lack of care for m/m romances. I seriously hope it's not true and there is a m/m option but if it is then it's just not okay. I'm considering this as well. I've sent some tweets wanting to get clarification on this. I hope this news spreads so it reaches the developers that there is concern, just to get an answer. Its way too late now for them to change it if it is true.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Feb 23, 2017 17:00:23 GMT
Okay guys. Confession time. gaycaravaggio has been informing me of stuff and yes, she knows people at BW. My list I made that caused homophobic hate directed at me? I got from her, from her friend there. I promised to keep it secret and now I can be honest about my suddenly changing in mood toward Jaal's romance rumors. She also wants you to know anything could have changed, but so far: Straight Scott with Cora/PeeBee/Vetra Straight Sara with Liam/Jaal Lesbian Sara with PeeBee/Vetra is correct... But it's not correct because it is still a leak- a leak that might not be true anymore, if it was even true to begin with. The truth is we have no idea about Jaal's sexuality. None. Yeah, exactly. All I'm passing on is an impression someone got from what someone at Bioware told them. Even if that story is legit, it's still pretty much a game of telephone. All I'm saying is it's a good idea to have low expectations.
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Post by Ceoldoren on Feb 23, 2017 17:00:53 GMT
If there truly is no m/m option in the squad, I am not buying. I will not give BioWare money and encourage this complete lack of care for m/m romances. I seriously hope it's not true and there is a m/m option but if it is then it's just not okay. Yeah, I'm not buying it, at least not at launch. I'll evaluate what options they do gives us. Decide after if I want to buy (Probably some shitty flings and one night stands. And maybe Reyes who I'm not interested in and will probably end up as underdeveloped as Steve.)
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Post by ash on Feb 23, 2017 17:00:57 GMT
Regarding all leaks and stuff... Pretty much getting a slim chance to romance Jaal as a male Ryder was my only real thing about getting myself a preorder and stuff. DAI had gay male squadmate, ME3 had male bi squadmate. I don't know now. Will still take this with a huge pound of salt - there were so muck "leaks", about non-romanceable Jaal, straight Jaal, bi Jaal, one even had SAM as a romance option.
I worked in a gamedev previously and if things are done the way we did it, there could've been builds without romance at all, with bi romance, with male option turned off. This is the only thing that keeps me sane and hoping that even if people were legit seeing this things they were seeing the wrong build (because the game hasn't gone gold yet) - nobody but a few selected people actually get to see the FULL one before the release, actually, because of the secrecy stuff. Buuuut if turns out there is no chance for Scott/Jaal romance - not gonna lie, I will have my sweet 7 days to refund it.
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Post by elanor on Feb 23, 2017 17:01:31 GMT
I just watched video. Is that confirmation that we have only six squadmates? For now seems like that. I expected 9 but if we have 6 elaborated squadmates I'm fine with that. I don't know. I feel a need for something more.
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