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Post by sereture on Feb 23, 2017 17:15:53 GMT
About possible romance leak: It would just be so weird to me if every other of the major 4 orientations get at least 2 available squadmates, and gay guys get NONE? Even only having one would seem slightly insulted next to the others, and would require extra off-squad options to even it out. I find it strange that Bioware would decide to do something that would so obviously cause major backlash...
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Post by Little_Miss_Trancy on Feb 23, 2017 17:16:51 GMT
Has anyone tried perhaps asking the Devs about all this?
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Post by Rynnju on Feb 23, 2017 17:16:59 GMT
On romance leaks. I'm just going to hope that things changed. It can't be that hard to switch the models for any romance scenes, and I bet they recorded dialogue for a male Ryder and Jaal scene since they often do that. Because this is ridiculous. To be honest, I'm going to be pretty bitter if this is true and they made Vetra the bi one just to give straight dudes a "beloved Turian" that they've been craving . Because obviously that's more important than giving gay dudes an actual squadmate. I suppose the argument would be that this isn't the case because no way the devs were specifically limiting the number of bi options! But I actually think they were. Other interviews support that idea (the "it has to make sense" nonsense). I would have been much happier with bi Jaal, lesbian Vetra. It's the best balance.
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Post by Ceoldoren on Feb 23, 2017 17:17:03 GMT
Okay so Jaal hitting the door with his rifle is grand, great to see him moving. As for the romance leak I'm happy with it bcus I was hoping Vetra was into girls. And I can understand getting upset at the lack of options but like... Canceling your preorder seems a bit much. I'm excited for the game as a whole so even if Vetra hadn't been available to F/Ryder there's still a whole game for me to enjoy. Maybe it's just because I'm Pan but I tend to want to romance characters based on their personalities rather than which orientation the pairing is :/ Also @ladyconsular I don't blame you for any of the information, and I hope no one is harassing you! It was just one a guy a few nights ago here. He was pretty mean to me. Implied indirectly I was a homophobic and didn't care about my gay and bi friends... I don't know how it's your fault that bioware let us down here. Rather silly of him. It sucks, but it's not on you in anyway. Thank you for telling us now so I didn't buy it and then get really pissed off.
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Post by chococri on Feb 23, 2017 17:17:23 GMT
Has anyone tried perhaps asking the Devs about all this? They refuse to confirm anything about the romances :v
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Post by elanor on Feb 23, 2017 17:17:54 GMT
There may be important gay character to romance, you don't know that. I don't believe that they forgot completely about this. I'm recommending everyone to calm down and get some tea. I'm sure it will be fine.
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Post by sereture on Feb 23, 2017 17:18:28 GMT
I feel so bad guys. I tried to tell you to take all leaks with a grain of salt and not put too much faith in it because things could have changed overtime, but then I was attacked for that and then too upset to say anything and I couldn't because of my promise anyways. I want to say things might have changed, but I don't know. FAKE LEAKS ARE FAKE! Make forums great again! *pulls out a bag of weapons, cocking* Ok... who needs to die, m'Lady? Fake leaks? You mean ALTERNATIVE confirmation?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 17:18:32 GMT
It was just one a guy a few nights ago here. He was pretty mean to me. Implied indirectly I was a homophobic and didn't care about my gay and bi friends... I don't know how it's your fault that bioware let us down here. Rather silly of him. It sucks, but it's not on you in anyway. Thank you for telling us now so I didn't buy it and then get really pissed off. It was because I was trying to keep you guys from getting your hopes too high, it seems I came off pretty rudely and I'm sorry if I did. Hang in there! We still don't know anything legit!
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Post by Petroshenko on Feb 23, 2017 17:19:23 GMT
Has anyone tried perhaps asking the Devs about all this? Sexual orientation is a spoiler. Unless of course you're a straight guy, in that case you get kissing video with Cora & Scott in first cinematic trailer!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 17:20:19 GMT
And as to the new leaks: I really really hope that's not true. My heart literally skipped a beat when people were speculating Jaal might not be available for Sara, so I can sympathize. Just remember stuff can change in development. And there's a different leak in which Jaal and Scott had a romance scene, even if it wasn't explicit. At this point we don't know which is true! This would be a huge nasty mistake on Bioware's part of they chose to not allow an m/m option on the squad (especially since they had already made cinematics for it and everything), so, again, fingers crossed for your guys' sake that this leak just doesn't have the whole picture, and that Bioware has in fact learned from their mistakes. I won't say I'm sorry for you guys yet, not until we have confirmation. Gonna stay optimistic on your guys' behalf! Fingers and toes crossed! If I had to choose over his friendship only as Sara and making him gay for the male players, I would gladly give up any romance with him. That's really sweet of you @beautesombre But I wouldn't wish Jaal isn't available for female players, since I know how a lot of you would feel, since I'm going through it right now. Its even worse being in the situation we are in, having hoped things would get better for us, only to realize they've gotten worse.
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Post by theratpack55 on Feb 23, 2017 17:20:28 GMT
I have to say, regarding this leak... I'm honestly somewhat in shock. I genuinely believed there was no way that BW would not have at least one m/m option among the squad. Like, after all the justified complaints, after improving continuously in DA and including Kaidan in ME3, after embracing the 'LGBTQ friendly' label... this? I have no words, and I'm sorry for all their gay/bi male fans. It's just... ugly, on BW's part to do this. Maybe the leak wasn't final, maybe there's still hope, but due to their 'wait and see' policy it's gonna be an unpleasant month for a lot of people. That's shitty, BW.
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Post by sereture on Feb 23, 2017 17:20:59 GMT
Okay so Jaal hitting the door with his rifle is grand, great to see him moving. As for the romance leak I'm happy with it bcus I was hoping Vetra was into girls. And I can understand getting upset at the lack of options but like... Canceling your preorder seems a bit much. I'm excited for the game as a whole so even if Vetra hadn't been available to F/Ryder there's still a whole game for me to enjoy. Maybe it's just because I'm Pan but I tend to want to romance characters based on their personalities rather than which orientation the pairing is :/ Also @ladyconsular I don't blame you for any of the information, and I hope no one is harassing you! It was just one a guy a few nights ago here. He was pretty mean to me. Implied indirectly I was a homophobic and didn't care about my gay and bi friends... Yeah, he was way over the line. Wouldn't even back down when you made it clear that it wasn't your own opinion or what you wanted.
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Post by elanor on Feb 23, 2017 17:22:57 GMT
Tom Taylorson@taylorson mika_walters It is. But rest assured, there are options for most everyone. It's just that every Ryder can't hook up w/ every NPC.
From twitter thread.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 17:23:15 GMT
It was just one a guy a few nights ago here. He was pretty mean to me. Implied indirectly I was a homophobic and didn't care about my gay and bi friends... Yeah, he was way over the line. Wouldn't even back down when you made it clear that it wasn't your own opinion or what you wanted. *groans* And I lost it and yelled horribly at him. I feel so bad. I hope whatever the end results of this horrible marketing, we all find something that makes the game worth buying.
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Post by geometricflowers on Feb 23, 2017 17:23:34 GMT
Well, guess I'm rolling a Sara. Still might go after Jaal, but might just see where the story leads me.
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Post by chococri on Feb 23, 2017 17:24:13 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 17:24:14 GMT
Yeah, he was way over the line. Wouldn't even back down when you made it clear that it wasn't your own opinion or what you wanted. *groans* And I lost it and yelled horribly at him. I feel so bad. I hope whatever the end results of this horrible marketing, we all find something that makes the game worth buying. I'm a romance fiend as much as the next person but the combat alone makes the game worth buying for me. Everything else is icing on the cake.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 17:25:16 GMT
On romance leaks. I'm just going to hope that things changed. It can't be that hard to switch the models for any romance scenes, and I bet they recorded dialogue for a male Ryder and Jaal scene since they often do that. Because this is ridiculous. To be honest, I'm going to be pretty bitter if this is true and they made Vetra the bi one just to give straight dudes a "beloved Turian" that they've been craving . Because obviously that's more important than giving gay dudes an actual squadmate. I suppose the argument would be that this isn't the case because no way the devs were specifically limiting the number of bi options! But I actually think they were. Other interviews support that idea (the "it has to make sense" nonsense). I would have been much happier with bi Jaal, lesbian Vetra. It's the best balance.
A million times this.
I'd love straight guys to get the female turian romance they've wanted, but for them to have gotten the priority on which bi romance is available, for gay guys to get no squadmates? I don't know I'm just really bitter too.
Also Tom Taylorson has replied to some tweets that in my mind confirm the leak that gay guys get no squadmate.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 17:26:37 GMT
Well, guess I'm rolling a Sara. Still might go after Jaal, but might just see where the story leads me. We don't even know if that works because players had mixed reactions with her and Jaal too. Basically this is how it works. We are on a trust system this time. Low trust and you are getting nothing. High trust and you might be on your way to something special providing you're his/her type. And they don't forget what you said in the past either.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 17:27:14 GMT
On romance leaks. I'm just going to hope that things changed. It can't be that hard to switch the models for any romance scenes, and I bet they recorded dialogue for a male Ryder and Jaal scene since they often do that. Because this is ridiculous. To be honest, I'm going to be pretty bitter if this is true and they made Vetra the bi one just to give straight dudes a "beloved Turian" that they've been craving . Because obviously that's more important than giving gay dudes an actual squadmate. I suppose the argument would be that this isn't the case because no way the devs were specifically limiting the number of bi options! But I actually think they were. Other interviews support that idea (the "it has to make sense" nonsense). I would have been much happier with bi Jaal, lesbian Vetra. It's the best balance.
A million times this.
I'd love straight guys to get the female turian romance they've wanted, but for them to have gotten the priority on which bi romance is available, for gay guys to get no squadmates? I don't know I'm just really bitter too.
Also Tom Taylorson has replied to some tweets that in my mind confirm the leak that gay guys get no squadmate.
As a straight guy that wanted Vetra I really am disheartened to hear this news if it is true. I know gay male romances have been practically forgotten about in mass effect so I hope something changes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 17:27:43 GMT
My depression has gotten to really low levels I have to get off the internet for a while I can't stay here and get more upset about this
So much for this game being escapism for me
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Post by feainn on Feb 23, 2017 17:27:53 GMT
Tom Taylorson@taylorson mika_walters It is. But rest assured, there are options for most everyone. It's just that every Ryder can't hook up w/ every NPC. From twitter thread. What exactly is this in reply to?
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Post by Pon.ee on Feb 23, 2017 17:28:29 GMT
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Post by chococri on Feb 23, 2017 17:28:32 GMT
About m/m romances. Tom please...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 17:28:53 GMT
Tom Taylorson@taylorson mika_walters It is. But rest assured, there are options for most everyone. It's just that every Ryder can't hook up w/ every NPC. From twitter thread. What exactly is this in reply to? Asked if we could romance a male squadmate as Scott, Tom directed it to NPC romances.
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