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Post by Phoenix2M on Feb 23, 2017 18:57:07 GMT
I'm dying with you T-T It's way too hot in here, I had to open my windows... *still too hot* Just keep turning the heat up on the Tempest until Jaal removes that armour. You, sir, are a genius. I just hope Angarans don't have too much of high temperature tolerance so that I don't burn along the way. I mean, damn, I'm already feverish
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Post by Pon.ee on Feb 23, 2017 18:57:48 GMT
. Cora is for broRyder. She was kissing him in a trailer. Oh you mean Female Squaddies with confirmed romances, right ok. Who knows, there's another cinematic trailer coming with Sara, I'll sure you'll see some kind of romance thing in there. Probably Liam but it'll even the playing field. I get why they'd use the humans in those videos though. Don't wanna spoil everything. Cora and Liam are like a given for at least straight romances so they were a safe bet.
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Post by ash on Feb 23, 2017 18:58:23 GMT
Just wanted to clear some confusion regarding Tom. Again, with nothing but my used-to-be-dev perspective. It is really pointless to ask him 90% of the things unless in Jaal romance there is a line from Scott that says "And I, Scott Ryder, shall pick Jaal as my lover now and forevah". And even if there is, chances that he knows about it are actually slim.
Most of the voice-recording things go not the way most people expect them to. With almost 100% probability Tom was given not a script, but a set of broRyder phrases with marks about needed emotions in his voice. Most of the time they are not even connected - one phrase could be from the moment when he's starting a convo with Vetra and the next one is from some romance scene with Cora. More than that - there could be some line that says "I love you, Jaal" but Tom's script had "I love you", <insert 10 pages of different phrases>, "Jaal". It's not his work to put it together where they belong. He can think: "Wow, that line was sure for some m/m romance", but has no actual idea with whom - no names nearby and things like that.
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Post by thedarkprince on Feb 23, 2017 19:01:35 GMT
Which female romances were confirmed? Did I miss something? I thought pretty much nothing had been confirmed at this point? "Confirm and tease" Cora is confirmed and they have teased Vetra and Peebee on twitter. The only male they have teased was Jaal, an alien, something ONLY m/m has never had. Whenever they get asked about potential m/m everything is suddenly NO SPOILERS, LE SECRET. It's only ok to tease options that aren't m/m apparently. Well they are doing a lot of teasing in general. Only character 100% confirmed is Cora. Not really trusting anything else they tweet or tease us about.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 19:01:40 GMT
Just wanted to clear some confusion regarding Tom. Again, with nothing but my used-to-be-dev perspective. It is really pointless to ask him 90% of the things unless in Jaal romance there is a line from Scott that says "And I, Scott Ryder, shall pick Jaal as my lover now and forevah". And even if there is, chances that he knows about it are actually slim. Most of the voice-recording things go not the way most people expect them to. With almost 100% probability Tom was given not a script, but a set of broRyder phrases with marks about needed emotions in his voice. Most of the time they are not even connected - one phrase could be from the moment when he's starting a convo with Vetra and the next one is from some romance scene with Cora. More than that - there could be some line that says "I love you, Jaal" but Tom's script had "I love you", <insert 10 pages of different phrases>, "Jaal". It's not his work to put it together where they belong. He can think: "Wow, that line was sure for some m/m romance", but has no actual idea with whom - no names nearby and things like that. Tom isn't the only one dodging m/m squad questions while teasing everything else though.
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Post by Scott Ryder on Feb 23, 2017 19:01:54 GMT
Just wanted to clear some confusion regarding Tom. Again, with nothing but my used-to-be-dev perspective. It is really pointless to ask him 90% of the things unless in Jaal romance there is a line from Scott that says "And I, Scott Ryder, shall pick Jaal as my lover now and forevah". And even if there is, chances that he knows about it are actually slim. Most of the voice-recording things go not the way most people expect them to. With almost 100% probability Tom was given not a script, but a set of broRyder phrases with marks about needed emotions in his voice. Most of the time they are not even connected - one phrase could be from the moment when he's starting a convo with Vetra and the next one is from some romance scene with Cora. More than that - there could be some line that says "I love you, Jaal" but Tom's script had "I love you", <insert 10 pages of different phrases>, "Jaal". It's not his work to put it together where they belong. He can think: "Wow, that line was sure for some m/m romance", but have no actual idea with whom - no names nearby and things like that. Even with disregarding that it's still pointless. He's literally not allowed to speak about the game other then being a fan.
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Post by Salty Drell on Feb 23, 2017 19:03:24 GMT
Just keep turning the heat up on the Tempest until Jaal removes that armour. You, sir, are a genius. I just hope Angarans don't have too much of high temperature tolerance so that I don't burn along the way. I mean, damn, I'm already feverish I wonder if Angarans sweat...
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Post by sandalisthemaker on Feb 23, 2017 19:03:41 GMT
(I say the following with empathy and concern, not to be a jerk, despite me personally not caring one way or the other if Jaal is Bi.) A word of advice to all male Jaal fans. You should prepare for the worst. This is Mass Effect, remember. If you end up pleasantly surprised, then great, but don't get all your hopes up. I appreciate the honesty friend, it would be nice to get some from BioWare too. To elaborate, I'm gay. So if Jaal turns out to be straight, I won't be upset that I can't romance him since I have no interest in him as a LI. I will however be very upset because regardless of me being interested in him or not as a LI, that's yet another instance where we get another straight male squadmate. A Bisexual Jaal would be great simply for representation's sake. That is important to me. Having Jaal be straight along with Liam and Drak, (because I have absolutely zero hope for Liam at this point, and Drak will likely just default to hetero as well) just hammers home the point that the Mass Effect team simply refuses to give us male squadmates who are not straight. (Kaidan was an afterthought. I like him, but his gay romance was just femShep's romance hacked to pieces) Combined with the fact that they keep saying that the characters sexualities have to 'fit' and 'make sense' and 'be a part of who they are', and it just leads to really unfortunate implications. I just wish that a bisexual Jaal or Liam 'made sense' to BioWare.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 19:04:44 GMT
I see lot of people pretending m/m fans are worried about not having options AT ALL. No, we're worried about not having SQUADMATES as options and only getting NPCs.
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Post by Phoenix2M on Feb 23, 2017 19:05:32 GMT
You, sir, are a genius. I just hope Angarans don't have too much of high temperature tolerance so that I don't burn along the way. I mean, damn, I'm already feverish I wonder if Angarans sweat... Are we going to discuss what Angaran sweat smells like again? Someone wondered about that some time ago...
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Post by Salty Drell on Feb 23, 2017 19:07:44 GMT
Just wanted to clear some confusion regarding Tom. Again, with nothing but my used-to-be-dev perspective. It is really pointless to ask him 90% of the things unless in Jaal romance there is a line from Scott that says "And I, Scott Ryder, shall pick Jaal as my lover now and forevah". And even if there is, chances that he knows about it are actually slim. Most of the voice-recording things go not the way most people expect them to. With almost 100% probability Tom was given not a script, but a set of broRyder phrases with marks about needed emotions in his voice. Most of the time they are not even connected - one phrase could be from the moment when he's starting a convo with Vetra and the next one is from some romance scene with Cora. More than that - there could be some line that says "I love you, Jaal" but Tom's script had "I love you", <insert 10 pages of different phrases>, "Jaal". It's not his work to put it together where they belong. He can think: "Wow, that line was sure for some m/m romance", but has no actual idea with whom - no names nearby and things like that. That...actually makes alot of sense. We might see what he said as m/m with NPCs only but he may have said there is m/m in the squad he doesn't know who with though.
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Post by ash on Feb 23, 2017 19:08:38 GMT
Tom isn't the only one dodging m/m squad questions while teasing everything else though. They are dodging pretty much everything rn, until some important guy (or gal) tells them that it's okay to tease. They were completely silent regarding Vetra earlier and now they tease about her. Same thing goes for Peebee. Jaal, judging by everything we know, can be our last guy to get. No wonder they are pretty silent about MOST of thingeys about him (except for the pretty good banging joke that gets kinda old). Once we have his profile who knows what happens. I just was clearing some confusion regarding Tom knowing anything on that matter. I know he can't say anything, but chances are he doesn't know it at all.
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Post by Pon.ee on Feb 23, 2017 19:08:41 GMT
You, sir, are a genius. I just hope Angarans don't have too much of high temperature tolerance so that I don't burn along the way. I mean, damn, I'm already feverish I wonder if Angarans sweat... THAT IS A DANGEROUS LINE OF THINKING
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Post by Rynnju on Feb 23, 2017 19:10:49 GMT
I wonder if Angarans sweat... Are we going to discuss what Angaran sweat smells like again? Someone wondered about that some time ago... LOL that was probably me! For those unaware, most of the sweat comments are a joke and referencing an infamous BSN thread from years back.
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Post by Mintty on Feb 23, 2017 19:11:01 GMT
Which female romances were confirmed? Did I miss something? I thought pretty much nothing had been confirmed at this point? *Also in the dark here* With the Dev's tweets and the Previews what we know is: Women who are "romances" of some kind: Cora (squadmate, can be romanced by Scott) Peebee (squadmate, possibly bisexual) Vetra (squadmate, DK sexuality) Suvi (crew member, responds well to flirting, DK sexuality)
Men who are "romances" of some kind:
Jaal (squadmate, DK sexuality) Gil (crew member, responds well to flirting, possibly gay)
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Post by bioana on Feb 23, 2017 19:11:23 GMT
I appreciate the honesty friend, it would be nice to get some from BioWare too. To elaborate, I'm gay. So if Jaal turns out to be straight, I won't be upset that I can't romance him. I will however be very upset because regardless of me being interested in him or not as a LI, that's yet another instance where we get another straight male squadmate. A Bisexual Jaal would be great simply for representation's sake. That is important to me. Having Jaal be straight along with Liam and Drak, (because I have absolutely zero hope for Liam at this point, and Drak will likely just default to hetero as well) just hammers home the point that the Mass Effect team simply refuses to give us male squadmates who are not straight. (Kaidan was an afterthought. I like him, but his gay romance was just femShep's romance hacked to pieces) Combined with the fact that they keep saying that the characters sexualities have to 'fit' and 'make sense' and 'be a part of who they are', and it just leads to really unfortunate implications. I just wish that a bisexual Jaal or Liam 'made sense' to BioWare. i agree completely. at first i was giving them the benefit of the doubt with the whole 'sexuality needs to fit the character' thing, considering i'm not a writer and have no idea how that kind of stuff is normally decided, but the more i think about it the worse it comes across. you can't look at a person and their personality/backstory and say 'yeah they must be -insert sexuality here' or 'it doesn't make sense for them to be this'. like if they're written well, wouldn't it be realistic to make their sexualities completely random, while keeping in mind the necessary representation for the fanbase? just easy peasy 2 straight, 2 bi, 1 gay, 1 lesbian, and do the same throughout the crew beyond the squad? this jab at 'realism' or whatever that they're going for right now is falling really flat, makes it feel pretty obvious that there's not many LGBT devs high up on the ladder.
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Post by Salty Drell on Feb 23, 2017 19:12:26 GMT
I wonder if Angarans sweat... Are we going to discuss what Angaran sweat smells like again? Someone wondered about that some time ago... It's like a soft spice in the wind...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 19:12:54 GMT
I'm deleting my account here, and probably my Twitter account also.
I've made some friends here in this thread, and I've had a nice time for the most part, but I just thought I'd explain or just let people know before leaving.
I honestly can't keep up being here and on Twitter preceding the launch of this game.
I probably shouldn't be brutally honest, hell, in reality you are all strangers, albeit lovely friendly ones.
But I have been going through PTSD and depression and anxiety for most of my life, and its gotten really, really bad in the past few years.
Games and worlds and universes like Mass Effect are escapism for me. I can be me in these games and don't feel sad or depressed or suicidal, and can have fun and just enjoy being a part of this world.
Leak or not, confirmed or not, I am seriously worried about the m/m options in the game, and the heavily favour skewing of straight, hetero romances in this game on the squad, and a complete afterthought for gay male players like me.
I've struggled enough coping with the ups and lows of BioWare's marketing for this game, this new information and "leak" or whatever has just made things worse in regards to my once high anticipation levels for this game.
I've also gotten personal stuff thrown at me as well, here, on Twitter, just for speaking out against the silence on the developer's part about the m/m romances, and the suspicions we have about why they are being particularly silent about the m/m content on the squad, or lack thereof.
If this was affecting a straight romance, or a m/f romance, I'm sure there would be plenty of worry and fear and asking the developers and voice actors for something to stop our fears or whatnot. I wouldn't make assumptions or personally attack another person for wanting some clarification.
Either way I am done here. Its too taxing to keep up here, to go through the highs and lows and not be effected.
I am not even sure if I am still getting this game now.
I know I just can't stay here any longer.
Sorry.
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Post by palinopsia on Feb 23, 2017 19:15:18 GMT
Just wanted to clear some confusion regarding Tom. Again, with nothing but my used-to-be-dev perspective. It is really pointless to ask him 90% of the things unless in Jaal romance there is a line from Scott that says "And I, Scott Ryder, shall pick Jaal as my lover now and forevah". And even if there is, chances that he knows about it are actually slim. Most of the voice-recording things go not the way most people expect them to. With almost 100% probability Tom was given not a script, but a set of broRyder phrases with marks about needed emotions in his voice. Most of the time they are not even connected - one phrase could be from the moment when he's starting a convo with Vetra and the next one is from some romance scene with Cora. More than that - there could be some line that says "I love you, Jaal" but Tom's script had "I love you", <insert 10 pages of different phrases>, "Jaal". It's not his work to put it together where they belong. He can think: "Wow, that line was sure for some m/m romance", but has no actual idea with whom - no names nearby and things like that. That...actually makes alot of sense. We might see what he said as m/m with NPCs only but he may have said there is m/m in the squad he doesn't know who with though. I feel like they would know though. Because I watched every interview I could find with Tom and Fryda and apparently they were introduced to the races to get a feel for what they were like, Tom even joked about how they tried to explain to him what a Krogan was and what they were like and he was just like, "I know, I played the games" so that made the whole process easier. So I got the impression they knew who they were talking to. There's also other stuff in the interviews that seems to suggest that, like how they were very surprised to finally see the characters they've been talking to when they first saw concept art for them or saw them in trailers and stuff. So while I wish you guys were right... I think they know who they were talking to. They seem to know the personalities and quirks and stuff of all the characters they talk to. And they said they were very happy and excited to actually hear the lines of the other person voiced sometimes, while they were recording, and said it helped. And apparently when they were recording, if the other character's part hadn't been recorded yet, (don't quote me on this) someone else just read that line (like, an audio person) so idk. I don't know anything about how recording stuff usually works though, and I obviously don't have any used-to-be-dev experience or anything even close to that, so there's a good chance I'm wrong. I'm just talking about what I heard from the interviews
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Post by Ianamus on Feb 23, 2017 19:15:54 GMT
Just wanted to clear some confusion regarding Tom. Again, with nothing but my used-to-be-dev perspective. It is really pointless to ask him 90% of the things unless in Jaal romance there is a line from Scott that says "And I, Scott Ryder, shall pick Jaal as my lover now and forevah". And even if there is, chances that he knows about it are actually slim. Most of the voice-recording things go not the way most people expect them to. With almost 100% probability Tom was given not a script, but a set of broRyder phrases with marks about needed emotions in his voice. Most of the time they are not even connected - one phrase could be from the moment when he's starting a convo with Vetra and the next one is from some romance scene with Cora. More than that - there could be some line that says "I love you, Jaal" but Tom's script had "I love you", <insert 10 pages of different phrases>, "Jaal". It's not his work to put it together where they belong. He can think: "Wow, that line was sure for some m/m romance", but has no actual idea with whom - no names nearby and things like that. Tom isn't the only one dodging m/m squad questions while teasing everything else though. because everybody who knows who the LI's are is under NDA not to talk about it, obviously. It's not a personal choice on the part of each individual not to talk about it. If the guy/girl in charge says they can't, they can't.
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Post by sandalisthemaker on Feb 23, 2017 19:16:17 GMT
I'm deleting my account here, and probably my Twitter account also. I've made some friends here in this thread, and I've had a nice time for the most part, but I just thought I'd explain or just let people know before leaving. I honestly can't keep up being here and on Twitter preceding the launch of this game. I probably shouldn't be brutally honest, hell, in reality you are all strangers, albeit lovely friendly ones. But I have been going through PTSD and depression and anxiety for most of my life, and its gotten really, really bad in the past few years. Games and worlds and universes like Mass Effect are escapism for me. I can be me in these games and don't feel sad or depressed or suicidal, and can have fun and just enjoy being a part of this world. Leak or not, confirmed or not, I am seriously worried about the m/m options in the game, and the heavily favour skewing of straight, hetero romances in this game on the squad, and a complete afterthought for gay male players like me. I've struggled enough coping with the ups and lows of BioWare's marketing for this game, this new information and "leak" or whatever has just made things worse in regards to my once high anticipation levels for this game. I've also gotten personal stuff thrown at me as well, here, on Twitter, just for speaking out against the silence on the developer's part about the m/m romances, and the suspicions we have about why they are being particularly silent about the m/m content on the squad, or lack thereof. If this was affecting a straight romance, or a m/f romance, I'm sure there would be plenty of worry and fear and asking the developers and voice actors for something to stop our fears or whatnot. I wouldn't make assumptions or personally attack another person for wanting some clarification. Either way I am done here. Its too taxing to keep up here, to go through the highs and lows and not be effected. I am not even sure if I am still getting this game now. I know I just can't stay here any longer. Sorry. Prince, no! It looks bleak, but nothing has been confirmed, dear. You need a hug. *Hugs Prince E*
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Post by Jaal Ama Darav (Kierro) on Feb 23, 2017 19:17:18 GMT
I'm deleting my account here, and probably my Twitter account also. I've made some friends here in this thread, and I've had a nice time for the most part, but I just thought I'd explain or just let people know before leaving. I honestly can't keep up being here and on Twitter preceding the launch of this game. I probably shouldn't be brutally honest, hell, in reality you are all strangers, albeit lovely friendly ones. But I have been going through PTSD and depression and anxiety for most of my life, and its gotten really, really bad in the past few years. Games and worlds and universes like Mass Effect are escapism for me. I can be me in these games and don't feel sad or depressed or suicidal, and can have fun and just enjoy being a part of this world. Leak or not, confirmed or not, I am seriously worried about the m/m options in the game, and the heavily favour skewing of straight, hetero romances in this game on the squad, and a complete afterthought for gay male players like me. I've struggled enough coping with the ups and lows of BioWare's marketing for this game, this new information and "leak" or whatever has just made things worse in regards to my once high anticipation levels for this game. I've also gotten personal stuff thrown at me as well, here, on Twitter, just for speaking out against the silence on the developer's part about the m/m romances, and the suspicions we have about why they are being particularly silent about the m/m content on the squad, or lack thereof. If this was affecting a straight romance, or a m/f romance, I'm sure there would be plenty of worry and fear and asking the developers and voice actors for something to stop our fears or whatnot. I wouldn't make assumptions or personally attack another person for wanting some clarification. Either way I am done here. Its too taxing to keep up here, to go through the highs and lows and not be effected. I am not even sure if I am still getting this game now. I know I just can't stay here any longer. Sorry. Just stay Prince. Lets let it run it's course.
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Post by thedarkprince on Feb 23, 2017 19:17:52 GMT
I'm deleting my account here, and probably my Twitter account also. I've made some friends here in this thread, and I've had a nice time for the most part, but I just thought I'd explain or just let people know before leaving. I honestly can't keep up being here and on Twitter preceding the launch of this game. I probably shouldn't be brutally honest, hell, in reality you are all strangers, albeit lovely friendly ones. But I have been going through PTSD and depression and anxiety for most of my life, and its gotten really, really bad in the past few years. Games and worlds and universes like Mass Effect are escapism for me. I can be me in these games and don't feel sad or depressed or suicidal, and can have fun and just enjoy being a part of this world. Leak or not, confirmed or not, I am seriously worried about the m/m options in the game, and the heavily favour skewing of straight, hetero romances in this game on the squad, and a complete afterthought for gay male players like me. I've struggled enough coping with the ups and lows of BioWare's marketing for this game, this new information and "leak" or whatever has just made things worse in regards to my once high anticipation levels for this game. I've also gotten personal stuff thrown at me as well, here, on Twitter, just for speaking out against the silence on the developer's part about the m/m romances, and the suspicions we have about why they are being particularly silent about the m/m content on the squad, or lack thereof. If this was affecting a straight romance, or a m/f romance, I'm sure there would be plenty of worry and fear and asking the developers and voice actors for something to stop our fears or whatnot. I wouldn't make assumptions or personally attack another person for wanting some clarification. Either way I am done here. Its too taxing to keep up here, to go through the highs and lows and not be effected. I am not even sure if I am still getting this game now. I know I just can't stay here any longer. Sorry. Dude....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 19:17:57 GMT
Wow and we talked about this. This is so funny! A 4 second vid and I said he would be curious, want to learn more, had a sadness about him and was a Resistance fighter.
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