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Post by Mintty on Feb 26, 2017 18:59:19 GMT
True enough, but I thought Alistair's strong feelings on that also made sense. I always just let him do it, since it's more his beef and he can have that blood on his hands. Thinking back, it's interesting how much more DAO was immersed in its time period and the "this is how things were done, this is how disputes were settled". I feel like the later games felt much less immersed in the fantasy past in a lot of ways and were modernized to an extent. I think this is why Alistair's romance path is one of my favorites from a design perspective, because it turned on player choice and RP. Even if you're not a female noble, you can still run off into the sunset with Alistair. You just have to decide how much you're willing to sacrifice for that happiness. Loghain's life? Ferelden's political stability? Not to mention the Dark Ritual with Morrigan. What matters to you as a player? That was something I really dug about Alistair's romance, and to a lesser extent, Morrigan's too. That's exactly why it's my "canon". I'm clearly a glutton for complicated, painful romances because in my "canon" playthrough I also romanced Anders and Solas.
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Post by Kaazmiin on Feb 26, 2017 18:59:49 GMT
I could never finish DA:O again after my first playthrough, even though I played through all Origins, because I knew I'd have to romance Alistair again, and even if I didn't, I'd have to make the Ultimate Sacrifice again, because under no circumstances may any harm (Morrigan included) come to my precious dear Alistair!! *sob*
Let's hope Jaal doesn't force us to decide between forcing him unto another woman or dying ourselves, then all will be well. Oh yes and please no Solas, Anders, or Thane... I realize BioWare has rarely been kind to us... ahh no, hope, hope for the best!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 19:00:42 GMT
If i knew how to draw... Never give up! Do it for Jaal! Oh god, it would be monstrous! But the motivation is so good... Maybe will train for a few days when devs release the kit... haha
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Post by theratpack55 on Feb 26, 2017 19:01:03 GMT
This is why I liked DAO's plot the best! Well, I actually liked DA2 too, it had that more intimate, personal plot going for it. But the politics and tough morally grey decisions were really interesting in the first game. DAI was very meh for me in comparison, I don't care about another 'unite people, kill big bad, save world' plot. Hopefully MEA will go back to the roots with a more nuanced plot and choices. Yay, someone else who liked DA2! I did enjoy DA:I, but let's be honest, that was mostly because of Solas. Romancing the eventual big bad gave me an emotional link to the plot that I felt was otherwise lacking. Yep, I really liked DA2. I see all of its flaws, but I enjoyed playing it, oh, 6 or 7 times. Unlike DAI, which was so long and at times tedious I only managed 2 playthroughs. DA2 had great characters and a great protagonist.
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Post by Rynnju on Feb 26, 2017 19:02:17 GMT
True enough, but I thought Alistair's strong feelings on that also made sense. I always just let him do it, since it's more his beef and he can have that blood on his hands. Thinking back, it's interesting how much more DAO was immersed in its time period and the "this is how things were done, this is how disputes were settled". I feel like the later games felt much less immersed in the fantasy past in a lot of ways and were modernized to an extent. I think this is why Alistair's romance path is one of my favorites from a design perspective, because it turned on player choice and RP. Even if you're not a female noble, you can still run off into the sunset with Alistair. You just have to decide how much you're willing to sacrifice for that happiness. Loghain's life? Ferelden's political stability? Not to mention the Dark Ritual with Morrigan. What matters to you as a player? That was something I really dug about Alistair's romance, and to a lesser extent, Morrigan's too. And then from the other perspective, how much are you willing to sacrifice your LI's happiness to get the ending you want. Even with "best ending" Queen Cousland, you have to push Alistair to a job he said time and time again that he didn't want, harden him to do so, convince Alistair to give Morrigan her Old God baby, which he's incredibly uncomfortable with, etc. Who really won here? Gosh this is making me miss DAO! I hope a future game has this level of difficulty with RP choices. I really feel like the only thing that approached that morally was DA2's Anders choice. No Mass Effect decision was really hard for me. Come on, Andromeda! Make me think!
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 26, 2017 19:02:17 GMT
I could never finish DA:O again after my first playthrough, even though I played through all Origins, because I knew I'd have to romance Alistair again, and even if I didn't, I'd have to make the Ultimate Sacrifice again, because under no circumstances may any harm (Morrigan included) come to my precious dear Alistair!! *sob* I don't think Morrigan harms Alistair in any way with the DR. I can see problems for the world with the choice (although I doubt something will happen), but not for the person involved in the ritual. But my canon Warden in a male HN romancing Morrigan with the DR, so...
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Post by Jaal's Ankles on Feb 26, 2017 19:03:04 GMT
We did it!! 500 pages! So I was inspired by all the lovely people from this thread and I made something. We can celebrate with more Jaal cuteness. Jaal 's Lower Abdomen love it, love it, love it! Kto jeszcze jest z Polski? Dawac originy i tumblry.
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on Feb 26, 2017 19:03:33 GMT
That's exactly why it's my "canon". I'm clearly a glutton for complicated, painful romances because in my "canon" playthrough I also romanced Anders and Solas. LOL. I did the exact same thing That Thedas worldstate is thoroughly boned. I don't exactly prefer complicated and painful romances. My personal favorite is still Garrus, and he's one of the relatively drama-free partners. But the romances with plot-critical characters have more emotional weight for me, because characters have to deal with whatever they've got going in in the main plot, as well as their relationship. That's why I gravitate toward characters like Morrigan, Alistair, Anders, and Solas.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 19:04:15 GMT
I think this is why Alistair's romance path is one of my favorites from a design perspective, because it turned on player choice and RP. Even if you're not a female noble, you can still run off into the sunset with Alistair. You just have to decide how much you're willing to sacrifice for that happiness. Loghain's life? Ferelden's political stability? Not to mention the Dark Ritual with Morrigan. What matters to you as a player? That was something I really dug about Alistair's romance, and to a lesser extent, Morrigan's too. That's exactly why it's my "canon". I'm clearly a glutton for complicated, painful romances because in my "canon" playthrough I also romanced Anders and Solas. If you think about it, the most "canon" romances in DA (meaning the ones that tie to the plot) are Alistair, Anders and Solas. ME never really had a canon vibe for me. It would be nice if MEA does, but Liam doesn't connect that way imo. For Scott, if Cora is a certain Harper we know well, she would be the perfect canon for him, so that leaves Sara. Jaal makes sense because of the plot, so it does make me wonder if they are digging a bit deeper and making the plot and certain relationships feel more connected.
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Post by Phoenix2M on Feb 26, 2017 19:04:49 GMT
For those who are joining the thread now, this is the topic of today: ''Admiring'' Jaal body for no fucking reason. They are all horny... In a sunday!! WTF Oh and yeah, I fixed my pc lol I HAD to draw some Jaal... Sigh... That's some quality content I signed up for
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Post by Phoenix2M on Feb 26, 2017 19:05:18 GMT
Never give up! Do it for Jaal! Oh god, it would be monstrous! But the motivation is so good... Maybe will train for a few days when devs release the kit... haha You can always ask me for some tips if you need some :3
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Post by Jaal's Ankles on Feb 26, 2017 19:05:31 GMT
Now please help me, my browser went crazy. How can i delete those posts? Edit: now it's ok. Sorry.
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Post by Phoenix2M on Feb 26, 2017 19:05:48 GMT
This is why I liked DAO's plot the best! Well, I actually liked DA2 too, it had that more intimate, personal plot going for it. But the politics and tough morally grey decisions were really interesting in the first game. DAI was very meh for me in comparison, I don't care about another 'unite people, kill big bad, save world' plot. Hopefully MEA will go back to the roots with a more nuanced plot and choices. Yay, someone else who liked DA2! I did enjoy DA:I, but let's be honest, that was mostly because of Solas. Romancing the eventual big bad gave me an emotional link to the plot that I felt was otherwise lacking. That makes me want to replay DAI and romance him instead of Cullen...
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Post by Phoenix2M on Feb 26, 2017 19:06:33 GMT
To be honest I think Jaal gives off those Beast vibes in general. He's just suitable for that role :3 It's the shoulders, I think. Garrus was tall too, but I never got the Beauty and the Beast vibe as strongly from him as I do from Jaal, even though Garrus's face is much more alien-looking. True. But I also think his personality may have some similarities. And probably even his voice
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 19:06:50 GMT
Now please help me, my browser went crazy. How can i delete those posts? Next to the edit button, click the settings one (gears) and the delete post option is there.
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Post by Phoenix2M on Feb 26, 2017 19:07:34 GMT
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY HAPPY 500TH PAGE HERE IS SOMETHING TO CELEBRATE WITH! Oh my. Oh my. *melts* I need this in the game, BioWare please!! Yeah, they did mention Ryder is a good dancer once, do I remember correctly? So maybe.... it will be done?
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Post by Rynnju on Feb 26, 2017 19:07:44 GMT
That's exactly why it's my "canon". I'm clearly a glutton for complicated, painful romances because in my "canon" playthrough I also romanced Anders and Solas. If you think about it, the most "canon" romances in DA (meaning the ones that tie to the plot) are Alistair, Anders and Solas. ME never really had a canon vibe for me. It would be nice if MEA does, but Liam doesn't connect that way imo. For Scott, if Cora is a certain Harper we know well, she would be the perfect canon for him, so that leaves Sara. Jaal makes sense because of the plot, so it does make me wonder if they are digging a bit deeper and making the plot and certain relationships feel more connected. Oh yeah, Mass Effect never had the super canon-connected LI. That was always a Dragon Age thing. I imagine that will continue to be the case, but I can see Jaal being the most canon connected just because of his particular position. Especially if we're somewhat on the money with our theorizing. I'm just hoping that they blow me away with Andromeda's romances in general! In my opinion, Dragon Age was always did the romances much better than Mass Effect, choice-wise and story-wise. Time to turn things around!
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Post by Phoenix2M on Feb 26, 2017 19:08:04 GMT
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY HAPPY 500TH PAGE HERE IS SOMETHING TO CELEBRATE WITH!
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Post by Phoenix2M on Feb 26, 2017 19:08:17 GMT
Yoooo it's almost time for the page 500 celebra- *sees Jaal's body parts holding down a conversation* ..... H-have we done it? Have we become meta? Have we become Jaal? you're welcome
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Post by Phoenix2M on Feb 26, 2017 19:08:55 GMT
I have no idea what's going on in this thread But have some Twitter gems How about I CAN'T wait? ._.
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Post by Kaazmiin on Feb 26, 2017 19:09:08 GMT
I could never finish DA:O again after my first playthrough, even though I played through all Origins, because I knew I'd have to romance Alistair again, and even if I didn't, I'd have to make the Ultimate Sacrifice again, because under no circumstances may any harm (Morrigan included) come to my precious dear Alistair!! *sob* I don't think Morrigan harms Alistair in any way with the DR. I can see problems for the world with the choice (although I doubt something will happen), but not for the person involved in the ritual. But my canon Warden in a male HN romancing Morrigan with the DR, so... I didn't mean harming him physically (even though, as you said, the general consequences might be bad) but rather emotionally, because that scene with Alistair and Morrigan is just so creepy and it is very obvious he is unhappy with it, even though he agreed to go through with it. If I played a male Warden who romanced Morrigan, I'd have done the ritual in a second. I mean it gives you a love child, Morrigan is happy, the world is saved (for the moment) and you get to live! Who cares about any other consequences
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 19:09:14 GMT
Oh god, it would be monstrous! But the motivation is so good... Maybe will train for a few days when devs release the kit... haha You can always ask me for some tips if you need some :3 Thank you! In truth, i always wanted to learn to draw (and learn german lol) but it's impossible with these hands (in Russia we say "hands that grow from an ... you know ") Anyway, you can always try, just need to wait for a kit first... Or it'll surely be monstrous
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2017 19:09:37 GMT
If you think about it, the most "canon" romances in DA (meaning the ones that tie to the plot) are Alistair, Anders and Solas. ME never really had a canon vibe for me. It would be nice if MEA does, but Liam doesn't connect that way imo. For Scott, if Cora is a certain Harper we know well, she would be the perfect canon for him, so that leaves Sara. Jaal makes sense because of the plot, so it does make me wonder if they are digging a bit deeper and making the plot and certain relationships feel more connected. Oh yeah, Mass Effect never had the super canon-connected LI. That was always a Dragon Age thing. I imagine that will continue to be the case, but I can see Jaal being the most canon connected just because of his particular position. Especially if we're somewhat on the money with our theorizing. I'm just hoping that they blow me away with Andromeda's romances in general! In my opinion, Dragon Age was always did the romances much better than Mass Effect, choice-wise and story-wise. Time to turn things around! Yeah it took a long time before I finally decided to play ME. DA was just completely different and felt way more immersive regarding relationships. I mean if anything in ME was truly canon it was TIM and Legion and they were not romance options though Legion's interest in Shep did unnerve me sometimes...
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Post by feainn on Feb 26, 2017 19:09:54 GMT
Man the "we want people to find out playing" on the question of whether both Ryders have a chance combined with the constant teasing is going to cause a meltdown if it turns out only Sara had a chance. Every time I personally start ignoring this in favor of game play hype something happens with a dev teasing people about Jaal. All I can say is people are going to go apeshit. They clearly know that Jaal is now wanted for both genders, all I can say is rip devs if it turns out he's not available for both.
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Post by palinopsia on Feb 26, 2017 19:12:36 GMT
Yay, someone else who liked DA2! I did enjoy DA:I, but let's be honest, that was mostly because of Solas. Romancing the eventual big bad gave me an emotional link to the plot that I felt was otherwise lacking. That makes me want to replay DAI and romance him instead of Cullen... Literally what I am doing right now. I "endured" this game for over 140 hours (it was enjoyable for the first 10 hours) with DLC and in the end I was glad it was over but I've heard so much talk about Solas's romance in this thread since joining, I couldn't help myself... I'm gonna be in so much emotional pain lmao I can't wait
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