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Post by feainn on Mar 1, 2017 16:46:54 GMT
I noticed that so many people are very sceptic about Andromeda outside of BSN. I don't know, so far I am feeling positive about it. For most part I'm happy with what they showing us. Am I blinded by hype or something? You're allowed to feel whatever you wish, elanor. Many still can't forgive BW for the ME3 endings so aren't giving the game a chance. I'm excited too and believe they've learned their lesson (I hope). My one friend is really excited for the game despite the endings in the OT but my other friend was very sceptical until just recently. Each person is allowed their own opinion. Just enjoy yourself!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 16:47:12 GMT
Yeah but I feel like there's a difference between "I don't mind" and "Let's try this together". First one is more of an open relationship, while the second one goes more into threesomes and poly relationships. And I was just curious if they would ever go into that second territory. If I recall correctly, Bioware stated that if they were to ever do a poly relationship, the only way they could feasibly do it is if the protagonist joins an existing couple or the other two characters get together no matter what. Anything else they said is an absolute nightmare to try to program. Forcing Liam on Sara or PeeBee on Jaal without any chance of stopping it would not sit well with many.
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Post by Obiwancomeblowme on Mar 1, 2017 16:48:52 GMT
If I recall correctly, Bioware stated that if they were to ever do a poly relationship, the only way they could feasibly do it is if the protagonist joins an existing couple or the other two characters get together no matter what. Anything else they said is an absolute nightmare to try to program. Forcing Liam on Sara or PeeBee on Jaal without any chance of stopping it would not sit well with many. I can't imagine enjoying that situation as a broRyder, if Jaal becomes an option for him, with the inclusion of Peebee. I know that Asari are a bit ambiguous "down there," but I don't think I could do it. hahaha
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 1, 2017 16:49:01 GMT
If I recall correctly, Bioware stated that if they were to ever do a poly relationship, the only way they could feasibly do it is if the protagonist joins an existing couple or the other two characters get together no matter what. Anything else they said is an absolute nightmare to try to program. Forcing Liam on Sara or PeeBee on Jaal without any chance of stopping it would not sit well with many. Exactly, which is why they said they'd more likely have it be where the protagonist joins an existing couple. Like say we have a companion and NPC that are in a relationship from the start of the game, the protagonist could later join in if the player pursues them.
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Post by J'all need Jaal on Mar 1, 2017 16:49:38 GMT
This is interesting, but spoilery: Peebee expresses curiosity about Jaal, wondering if the Asari ability to mate with all Milky Way species extended to the Andromeda natives. Woah. I thought PB will have a thing for Vetra (didn't Mac tell us so), it's kinda surprising to me tbh.
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Post by Rynnju on Mar 1, 2017 16:49:42 GMT
O-oh. I popped in just in time to be the first post on.... HAPPY PAGE 600, JAAL THREAD! Shine on, you crazy diamonds! And while I have this platform, I must draw your attention to an important cause started by our dear Solas #FreeRyanJaalkins!!!Having a personal tie would be interesting. Still wonder if his scar is part of it. I just find it interesting that Jaal has a voice that's different from the other Angara and he sounds similar to The Archon. He sure knows who is Archon. I think at least it is safe to say. I even did a cut from their voices and then join them together, cause wow, who is who? I said before that I think Jaal probably knows something about Archon/how the Kett really operate. If not, then he knows something about Remnant tech or something else vital. There has to be a reason he comes along on our team over any other Angara, especially if he's as important as we suspect. I think he has inside knowledge that we need. I also think someone having personal stakes against Archon grounds the "mysteeeeerious evil villain" a little and adds good drama to the game. Jaal is the only one on our team who could have that. Oh my god whyyyyyy is this post giving me such a hard time????
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 16:50:21 GMT
Forcing Liam on Sara or PeeBee on Jaal without any chance of stopping it would not sit well with many. Exactly, which is why they said they'd more likely have it be where the protagonist joins an existing couple. Like say we have a companion and NPC that are in a relationship from the start of the game, and the protagonist can later join in. I did notice PeeBee and Jaal match in colors and equally wish to explore new things, so I am not surprised if that was intentional. I can just imagine the banter!
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 1, 2017 16:50:35 GMT
I noticed that so many people are very sceptic about Andromeda outside of BSN. I don't know, so far I am feeling positive about it. For most part I'm happy with what they showing us. Am I blinded by hype or something? No we just invest more in the story/characters and not the combat and animations. I think story and characters are actually things a lot of people outside are worried about. We have already there people concerned about those things, it's normal that people that don't follow the game as deep as in here, are concerned.
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Post by fialka on Mar 1, 2017 16:51:07 GMT
Yeah but I feel like there's a difference between "I don't mind" and "Let's try this together". First one is more of an open relationship, while the second one goes more into threesomes and poly relationships. And I was just curious if they would ever go into that second territory. If I recall correctly, Bioware stated that if they were to ever do a poly relationship, the only way they could feasibly do it is if the protagonist joins an existing couple or the other two characters get together no matter what. Anything else they said is an absolute nightmare to try to program. Ugh. I really hope they don't go this route with a 'main' romance. If it's one of the more casual/fling type ones it's fine, but... there's so few LIs, particularly male ones (in ME thus far, anyway), I'd be kinda ticked off if they went that route with a male squadmate romance. At least have it be optional, anyway? I know there's some fans out there who would like this, but I think that's a pretty small niche. Most people would be pretty ticked off by it, I feel. I certainly would be. I mean, it's one thing if Jaal doesn't mind of we have something going on on the side, provided we're not serious, but I really don't want him hooking up with someone else after my character commits to him.
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Post by fialka on Mar 1, 2017 16:51:49 GMT
Happy 600 Pages!!!!!In honor of this milestone, I have collected everything we know about Jaal thus far! Spoiler-free! (Though I did include some spoilers below, and ways to get more...) My last update, featuring some official Jaal concept art, is here! But first! Jaal related stuff that cropped up during the last 10 pages (any images within spoilered for size, not content): And everything we know about Jaal at this point, 20 days from release:1. According to IMdb, his full name is Jaal Ama Darav, and Nyasha Hatendi is his voice actor. His voice is supposed to be amazing. It is very likely the voice in the first cinematic trailer that says 'This is incredible...' and 'I have a bad feeling.' We'll call this a very educated guess. (Note: None of this is confirmed by the devs, but we do know Nyasha is, for sure, in Mass Effect. And when Fryda Wolff complimented his performance in a T.V. show and mentioned he was the voice of Jaal, he thanked her for the compliment and did not correct her.) 2. He is a squadmate! 100% confirmed now! 3. He has been described as 'dapper,' and an 'interstellar sir.' Also, when asked if Jaal is shy and awkward, the response was 'oh no.' 4. He carries a sniper rifle, and a dev tweet recommended speccing him to detonate combos from afar if you plan to pair him with a close-range fighter like Liam in your squad. 5. He is very likely a romance. We know we can sleep with him, but no official confirmation on with who. A recent tweet suggests he is in fact a romance rather than just a fling. 6. His writer, Cathleen Rootsaert, is responsible for Kaidan in ME3, and parts of the Citadel and Leviathan DLCs. 7. He has a loyalty mission. Our spirit animal Ryan "Jaalkins" Jenkins apparently worked on it. He is a level designer who has also worked on Skyrim and Fallout 4. 8. According to his squad selection screen, he is a 'Resistance Fighter.' Image dump incoming!The first time we saw him: His Funko Pop: His desktop wallpaper: Here is his phone wallpaper: His squad selection screen: This gif is from the teaser for combat gameplay video #2: And an image of him from said video (since it's easy to miss): Here is an Angaran head concept art model, from Rodrigue Pralier (a lead bioware artist on MEA - source): And some Jaal concept art from the leaked art book (more Angara-related images can be found in my earlier update on page 590): (This little one is from the squad group pic. Again, you can find the entire image with the rest of our peeps on page 590.) SPOILER ALERT!!! DO NOT CLICK if you do not want info from non-official sources!Here's some Jaal related quotes from the articles that came out after the press embargo lift. This is not all of them - there's recent stuff I'm unaware of because I met my spoiler quota about a week ago! DO NOT RE-POST OR DISCUSS ANY OF THESE WITHOUT SPOILER TAGS!!! Note: keep in mind, for romance-related stuff, everyone quoted here played as Sara, to my knowledge. I have not actually read any on the sourced articles beyond what's been quoted here. "The angara seem to have a little bit more to them, living in large close-knit familial groups with spirituality being passed on by parents to their offspring." www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/02/23/mass-effect-andromeda-is-looking-good/"I could flirt with every squadmate I came across on the ship (Vetra, Liam, Jaal). That doesn’t necessarily mean a relationship can be born out of all of these during the course of the game, since in Mass Effect 2 Samara shuts you down after you flirt with her, but I did flirt with them." www.gameinformer.com/games/mass_effect_andromeda/b/playstation4/archive/2017/02/23/50-things-we-noticed-during-our-hands-on-time-with-the-game.aspx?utm_content=buffer367f2&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer"There is GTA-esque squadmate banter as you’re driving around - Jaal, as an Andromeda native, doesn’t understand Milky Way idioms, so, much like Drax from Guardians of the Galaxy, he takes everything literally." www.pcgamesn.com/mass-effect-andromeda/mass-effect-andromeda-gameplay-hands-on-preview"His background provides a window into that culture and its factions in a way which reminds me of Javik from ME3 - and he's also got a lot of fans very hot under the collar. (It goes without saying that yes, you can try to flirt with everybody.)" www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-02-22-four-hours-with-mass-effect-andromedaApparently you can hug Jaal. Though in this particular instance Sara was unable to flirt with him. I have not watched this video personally so I can't speak to the context. We know different players were able to flirt with him as Sara (see above). source: "Poking around the Tempest gave me a chance to meet some of the new crew members – Peebee the Asari (edgy), Drack the Krogan (angry), and Jaal the Angaran (new!). Angaran is a new alien race for Mass Effect: Andromeda, so he was the one I spent the most time with. Jaal the Angaran speaks slowly, solemnly, and seriously. He has cat-like eyes and broad shoulders, and reminds us of Mass Effect 3’s Javik, although Jaal seems to be a more sympathetic character. He’s also bloody huge." www.godisageek.com/2017/02/mass-effect-andromeda-is-a-refreshing-return-to-biowares-space-opera/"My highlight was Jaal, a soulful alien with a mysterious past touched by the Kett. I’m betting he’ll quickly become a fan favorite." blog.us.playstation.com/2017/02/23/first-hands-on-with-mass-effect-andromeda/"Jaal, who is part of the new Angara race native to the Andromeda galaxy, is an outsider trying to find footing among people from unfamiliar cultures." www.gamespot.com/articles/how-mass-effect-andromedas-characters-deal-with-sc/1100-6448130/And here's a brief, humorous article about one journalist's attempts to romance Jaal as Sara: www.ausgamers.com/news/read/3569337/you-will-find-out-if-human-angaran-genitals-are-compatible-if-you-play-mass-effect-andromedaWant more? Here is a post by @beautesombre , with some spoiler-tagged info on Jaal with more info than I have here. Want even MOAR!? Shoot Rynnju a PM. She's created a spoiler-group for people who want to know ALL THE THINGS about Jaal. I'm sure she'd be happy to add you.
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Post by feainn on Mar 1, 2017 16:52:27 GMT
This is interesting, but spoilery: Peebee expresses curiosity about Jaal, wondering if the Asari ability to mate with all Milky Way species extended to the Andromeda natives. Woah. I thought PB will have a thing for Vetra (didn't Mac tell us so), it's kinda surprising to me tbh. Nah, just that they'd have an interesting relationship.
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Post by feainn on Mar 1, 2017 16:53:01 GMT
Happy 600!
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Post by Obiwancomeblowme on Mar 1, 2017 16:53:34 GMT
No we just invest more in the story/characters and not the combat and animations. I think story and characters are actually things a lot of people outside are worried about. We have already there people concerned about those things, it's normal that people that don't follow the game as deep as in here, are concerned. The hate in Youtube comments, discourse on Tumblr, Twitter, and Facebook... it is quite the bad situation in my eyes. Here, we care about other things than stupid animations because let's face it, Bioware never did well. I have been told my multiple people that Horizon Zero Dawn is amazing but has some awful facial animations, too! People are just asshats and want to complain. Then again, Bioware is not doing a great marketing job for Andromeda and creating rifts between the developers and the fan base. We must have hope!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 16:54:24 GMT
What if the sad part of the romance is Jaal ends up with PeeBee?
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Post by sereture on Mar 1, 2017 16:55:16 GMT
Party hard!!!
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Post by sereture on Mar 1, 2017 16:55:49 GMT
What if the sad part of the romance is Jaal ends up with PeeBee? Don't say things like that!
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Post by Obiwancomeblowme on Mar 1, 2017 16:56:03 GMT
What if the sad part of the romance is Jaal ends up with PeeBee? *jettisons them both out of rage*
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Post by Kymira on Mar 1, 2017 16:56:08 GMT
What if the sad part of the romance is Jaal ends up with PeeBee? LOL yeah, no.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2017 16:56:36 GMT
HAHA just joking! I think if anything it'll be a Fenris/Isabela thing in banter if we don't romance Jaal. I doubt she'll pine for him like Tali did with Garrus.
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Post by akanrae on Mar 1, 2017 16:56:58 GMT
Yay 600 pages!!! It seems I came back just in time, this thread is growing fast!
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Post by theratpack55 on Mar 1, 2017 16:57:01 GMT
If I recall correctly, Bioware stated that if they were to ever do a poly relationship, the only way they could feasibly do it is if the protagonist joins an existing couple or the other two characters get together no matter what. Anything else they said is an absolute nightmare to try to program. Ugh. I really hope they don't go this route with a 'main' romance. If it's one of the more casual/fling type ones it's fine, but... there's so few LIs, particularly male ones (in ME thus far, anyway), I'd be kinda ticked off if they went that route with a male squadmate romance. At least have it be optional, anyway? I know there's some fans out there who would like this, but I think that's a pretty small niche. Most people would be pretty ticked off by it, I feel. I certainly would be. I mean, it's one thing if Jaal doesn't mind of we have something going on on the side, provided we're not serious, but I really don't want him hooking up with someone else after my character commits to him. Yeah, I'm very much not into that either. If it was obligatory like the BW statement suggests that would pretty much rule out Jaal as a LI for me... Anyway, happy 600!
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Post by Solas on Mar 1, 2017 16:57:03 GMT
I don't think this is spoilery because it's a joke/light-hearted comment I made 3 weeks ago before the embargo lifted, but just in case they say: “romances are different now and have more diversity and you can pursue multiple intimate relationships” i hear: “you can have beautiful polyamorous wedded bliss with vetra and jaal”
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happy 600 jaal thread!
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on Mar 1, 2017 16:57:46 GMT
What if the sad part of the romance is Jaal ends up with PeeBee? LOL! That would be cruel. Of course, the last time they pulled something like that with ME3 Jacob, it went over spectacularly well
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