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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 19:41:00 GMT
Hey I had blonde hair a week ago and all that Cora talk made me self conscious because I looked like her with that color. I actually went back to my dark brown hair just because it was getting to me. We're human. It's only normal to let things like that get to us. Also is it just me or are the male Angara more beautiful looking than the females? They seem to have this butch look and the males seem very majestic. I totally get you! I have a rather strong jawline for a woman myself (my face shape actually resembles Cassandra's a bit), so seeing all that stuff about Cass and now Cora is kind of... indirectly insulting, you know? But then I remind myself that these are exactly the types of guys I don't give a crap about impressing in real life either. Also, and perhaps this is childish of me, I imagine they can't get girlfriends in real life because their expectations are unrealistic and their personalities are crap. Also, they're ugly. SO THERE. Anyway I do wonder if Jaal will be unique in his good looks? I agree he's prettier (to me) than the females behind him, but they definitely look more feminine with their fuller lips and such. I just wonder if all the male Angara will have that slightly androgynous quality to them like he does (I actually wasn't 100% sure he was male at first, until I compared him to the females - which I love by the way! - I'm totally straight, but, I've always had this thing for really pretty, slightly feminine looking guys). And I wonder how humans look to the Angara? The Asari are considered universally attractive in the Milky Way, and Javik tells us that the Quarians were considered attractive to other species in his time, and that humans resemble them. It was always curious to me that that sentiment didn't translate toward attitudes toward the human species. I don't recall seeing any obvious human/other couples (unless, Asari) in the trilogy. So agree! I don't know. All the generic Angara really don't look like him. Maybe he's older, kind of like Mordin was, but not that old. Just a more matured Angara. And yeah the females are beautiful but have a more military stance than the men I noticed. They even stand taller. I was worried he wasn't male at first too but I was listening to the voice in the trailer and looking at him so I got confused lol and I am straight too but men with feminine looks are my weakness! I'm still curious about the courtship mentioned by the devs.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 19:43:17 GMT
As a Daenerys fan I am totally on board with a DanyxKhalDrogo esque romance And is the Cora thread really that bad *skips off to check* Sssh I am at work
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Post by Yaslana on Feb 7, 2017 19:43:35 GMT
Okay... here, have fun... archiveofourown.org/works/9618122Okay its not as fun as I intended it to be and its a bit cliche but gosh, writing it helped me through the waiting today so yayy O-oh my god I don't care if it's cliché I really enjoyed it. I love me some pining (also i super appreciate it being gender neutral ) Okay... here, have fun... archiveofourown.org/works/9618122Okay its not as fun as I intended it to be and its a bit cliche but gosh, writing it helped me through the waiting today so yayy OMG this is soooooo cute!!!!!!!! well done xxx Thank you guys so much. It was a challenge to write in a second pov, never done that. And that was the only way I thought I could do it without Ryders gender. Talking with you guys made me realize how important this is to a lot of you.
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Post by Gludipow on Feb 7, 2017 19:46:15 GMT
As a Daenerys fan I am totally on board with a DanyxKhalDrogo esque romance And is the Cora thread really that bad *skips off to check* Sssh I am at work It... really is that bad. As for the discussion surrounding Jaal looking slightly feminine. I guess he doesn't look "feminine" to me I guess because he has that broader shape compared to the females behind him so it didn't take me longer than a second to figure out he is male. Not bragging. But I will agree that he is pretty, I partially blame that on the eyes and the colors. Anyone ever notice that squadmates are always relatively different from other members of their race? They're like anime main characters...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 19:48:00 GMT
As a Daenerys fan I am totally on board with a DanyxKhalDrogo esque romance And is the Cora thread really that bad *skips off to check* Sssh I am at work It... really is that bad. As for the discussion surrounding Jaal looking slightly feminine. I guess he doesn't look "feminine" to me I guess because he has that broader shape compared to the females behind him so it didn't take me longer than a second to figure out he is male. Not bragging. But I will agree that he is pretty, I partially blame that on the eyes and the colors. Anyone ever notice that squadmates are always relatively different from other members of their race? They're like anime main characters... I grew up with Japanese RPG's and anime. It's only natural Jaal would be attracting me a bit lol and yes, his eyes were what struck me the first time I saw him. And I love Yu-Gi-Oh! I cosplayed as Anzu/Tea when I was younger!
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Post by sosolaris on Feb 7, 2017 19:48:06 GMT
I think it's a bit of an exaggeration, expecially because some of the criticism is limited to the hairstyle without going on other topics as a few did. Discussions on her character still goes on for most of the time. It always seems to gravitate back to "she has a square jawline and short hair so she's too masculine like Cassandra" Umm... nooo, if any fool has ever been to the United States Midwest or fucking GERMANY they'd know that women of Germanic (or related) descent are going to have square or pear-shaped faces because that's just how fucking genetics works. Every female is not going to have that thin jawline with soft features like they want, and considering this is Mass Effect and not Barbie Fashion Show they should get used to seeing women that actually look like real women. *snip* Sort of unrelated, but I think women with strong jaw lines are so striking. I know beauty is subjective and all that, but I was truly baffled when I found out just how vehement people were in their criticism of Cass. It's also why I think Samara (and by extension, Morinth) are the most beautiful asari in the trilogy, and was also similarly affronted when I came across those "man jaw" memes. >:I
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Post by Rynnju on Feb 7, 2017 19:51:21 GMT
I never thought Jaal was female. Not even for a half second. He looks pretty darn male to me, and the pink color and slim face didn't really say otherwise to me? I thought it was funny that so many people were confused about his gender to the point where a dev had to confirm. Not that I'd have a problem with any gender he was, but I thought it was obvious.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 19:51:54 GMT
I never thought Jaal was female. Not even for a half second. He looks pretty darn male to me, and the pink color and slim face didn't really say otherwise to me? I thought it was funny that so many people were confused about his gender to the point where a dev had to confirm. Not that I'd have a problem with any gender he was, but I thought it was obvious. The voice in the trailer. People thought it was Jaal.
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Post by louy on Feb 7, 2017 19:52:14 GMT
O-oh my god I don't care if it's cliché I really enjoyed it. I love me some pining (also i super appreciate it being gender neutral ) OMG this is soooooo cute!!!!!!!! well done xxx Thank you guys so much. It was a challenge to write in a second pov, never done that. And that was the only way I thought I could do it without Ryders gender. Talking with you guys made me realize how important this is to a lot of you. As someone who has written fan fics (and can't write the open gender thing well) It was so tasteful and beautifully sweet you should be very proud xxxx
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Post by Gludipow on Feb 7, 2017 19:52:40 GMT
It always seems to gravitate back to "she has a square jawline and short hair so she's too masculine like Cassandra" Umm... nooo, if any fool has ever been to the United States Midwest or fucking GERMANY they'd know that women of Germanic (or related) descent are going to have square or pear-shaped faces because that's just how fucking genetics works. Every female is not going to have that thin jawline with soft features like they want, and considering this is Mass Effect and not Barbie Fashion Show they should get used to seeing women that actually look like real women. *snip* Sort of unrelated, but I think women with strong jaw lines are so striking. I know beauty is subjective and all that, but I was truly baffled when I found out just how vehement people were in their criticism of Cass. It's also why I think Samara (and by extension, Morinth) are the most beautiful asari in the trilogy, and was also similarly affronted when I came across those "man jaw" memes. >:I Well, and as it's been stated previously, it can be kind of insulting when you're a woman with a square jawline of Germanic descent. And I'm from the Midwest. Dozens upon dozens of women have sharp features and square jawlines here. Because there are a lot of women with Germanic and Polish ancestry around here. Also as someone else said, they're chauvenistic pigs who are likely too ugly inside and outside to actually find themselves a real girlfriend and so they have to complain about how fictional women don't revolve around their sad, pathetic little boners. Honestly, as I said before if they want plastic barbie dolls they should just go play with them. *sigh* But yea, this is a Jaal thread so we should really stay on topic. Though I do appreciate what you said. And completely understand.
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Post by KingDarious BBB on Feb 7, 2017 19:54:12 GMT
Does anyone knows if the Angaran female will be romanceable? She kinds looks like Angelina Jolie. I get the feeling that an Angaran female will be one of the smaller romances. When someone asked if we could 'kiss' and 'bang' Angara, the answer kind of seemed plural to me. Plus the Angaran females seem to be a little less intensely alien (less tentacle-y, less bent legs, etc) and more similar to human women than the males, which appeals more to male players. I'm sure that was a purposeful design choice. That's good to know. I'm usually don't romance other species besides female humans, but with Andromeda I probably will change that.
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Post by Gludipow on Feb 7, 2017 19:55:36 GMT
It... really is that bad. As for the discussion surrounding Jaal looking slightly feminine. I guess he doesn't look "feminine" to me I guess because he has that broader shape compared to the females behind him so it didn't take me longer than a second to figure out he is male. Not bragging. But I will agree that he is pretty, I partially blame that on the eyes and the colors. Anyone ever notice that squadmates are always relatively different from other members of their race? They're like anime main characters... I grew up with Japanese RPG's and anime. It's only natural Jaal would be attracting me a bit lol and yes, his eyes were what struck me the first time I saw him. And I love Yu-Gi-Oh! I cosplayed as Anzu/Tea when I was younger! I had/still have two best friends who, when we were younger, would watch that show every Saturday. We had little fangirl crushes on different characters. My friend Emi liked Joey, my friend Becca liked Seto, and I liked Bakura. So we made OCs (because we really didn't like the female characters and how weak they were... but that's Japan, I guess) and we'd stay up every night and write fanfiction in our heads. I took it upon myself to write it all down eventually, and that is actually where I discovered my love of writing. XD Funnily enough... we were 12. XDD
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Post by Rynnju on Feb 7, 2017 19:56:02 GMT
Yes, and let's not start some weird inter-thread animosity. I flinch a little when I see people bring up the Jaal thread's length and conversations in other characters' threads. It's not a competition and really the game was rigged from the start considering Jaal is a brand new alien representing a brand new race. Of course there's 10x more to discuss on him than the other squadmates.
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Post by palinopsia on Feb 7, 2017 19:56:47 GMT
I still cannot get over these. So much detail. And I also noticed he has a lot of wrinkles on his face... Like, a lot a lot. It might just be an alien thing, but what if he's old? Like a lot older than we thought? They changed the model a bit though, and he looks younger in the trailer. But then again it might just be the pretty colours and lighting. Either way I feel like a lot of work went into designing the Angara and making them look very alien. I'm happy about that.
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Post by Crim on Feb 7, 2017 19:57:28 GMT
I never thought Jaal was female. Not even for a half second. He looks pretty darn male to me, and the pink color and slim face didn't really say otherwise to me? I thought it was funny that so many people were confused about his gender to the point where a dev had to confirm. Not that I'd have a problem with any gender he was, but I thought it was obvious. The voice in the trailer. People thought it was Jaal. That's Claudia Black, sounds damn like her at least.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 19:58:21 GMT
I grew up with Japanese RPG's and anime. It's only natural Jaal would be attracting me a bit lol and yes, his eyes were what struck me the first time I saw him. And I love Yu-Gi-Oh! I cosplayed as Anzu/Tea when I was younger! I had/still have two best friends who, when we were younger, would watch that show every Saturday. We had little fangirl crushes on different characters. My friend Emi liked Joey, my friend Becca liked Seto, and I liked Bakura. So we made OCs (because we really didn't like the female characters and how weak they were... but that's Japan, I guess) and we'd stay up every night and write fanfiction in our heads. I took it upon myself to write it all down eventually, and that is actually where I discovered my love of writing. XD Funnily enough... we were 12. XDD Look at Bakura and his evil half and their hair, now look at Jaal's head
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Post by Gludipow on Feb 7, 2017 19:59:57 GMT
I had/still have two best friends who, when we were younger, would watch that show every Saturday. We had little fangirl crushes on different characters. My friend Emi liked Joey, my friend Becca liked Seto, and I liked Bakura. So we made OCs (because we really didn't like the female characters and how weak they were... but that's Japan, I guess) and we'd stay up every night and write fanfiction in our heads. I took it upon myself to write it all down eventually, and that is actually where I discovered my love of writing. XD Funnily enough... we were 12. XDD Look at Bakura and his evil half and their hair, now look at Jaal's head Pfffft... well, to be fair I did romance a bald egg in DAI... sooo...
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Post by sosolaris on Feb 7, 2017 20:00:04 GMT
I still cannot get over these. So much detail. And I also noticed he has a lot of wrinkles on his face... Like, a lot a lot. It might just be an alien thing, but what if he's old? Like a lot older than we thought? They changed the model a bit though, and he looks younger in the trailer. But then again it might just be the pretty colours and lighting. Either way I feel like a lot of work went into designing the Angara and making them look very alien. I'm happy about that. Where did you find this? Is this official?
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Post by Yaslana on Feb 7, 2017 20:00:11 GMT
Thank you guys so much. It was a challenge to write in a second pov, never done that. And that was the only way I thought I could do it without Ryders gender. Talking with you guys made me realize how important this is to a lot of you. As someone who has written fan fics (and can't write the open gender thing well) It was so tasteful and beautifully sweet you should be very proud xxxx You are the sweetest
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Post by louy on Feb 7, 2017 20:00:21 GMT
That's what I was thinking too! I admit Jaal looks important in the trailer, but the females just give me a vibe of confidence and control, and that they could snap your neck if you intend any harm to their people. I noticed that they seem to go out of their way to make the Angara males and females noticeably different. There's no one you can mistake their sexes. I agree with you there for sure. I mean, it's possible that they're like... I'm not sure of a 100% perfect comparison, but I guess like Vikings. Women were considered some form of sacred and were also trained as warriors that could have fought alongside the men. Or like in Celtic culture where figures often thought in today's society to be positions for men (crafting, war, etc) are personified by female deities (sorry, I know a lot about ancient Pagan cultures cuz I'm nerdy). But something like that would actually be frigign' awesome. A culture that really respects it's females and treats that as either sacred or as equals capable of everything a man can and more. I will happily back this as a lady with a lot of viking bloodlines running in both sides of my family. Everyone is blonde hair blue eyes on dads side (inc. me and 1 of my brothers) and on my mums side there are a few brunettes and gingers but again blue eyes) Also mum is fascinated with family history. But all the women in my family have more fiery tempers than the males (apart from my dad). And when we all meet up there's usually at least one fist fight..... and its normally at least one of the 'ladies'. Most of my friends don't usually have this aggressive streak, but it can be amusing to watch.
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Post by Rynnju on Feb 7, 2017 20:00:27 GMT
I still cannot get over these. So much detail. And I also noticed he has a lot of wrinkles on his face... Like, a lot a lot. It might just be an alien thing, but what if he's old? Like a lot older than we thought? They changed the model a bit though, and he looks younger in the trailer. But then again it might just be the pretty colours and lighting. Either way I feel like a lot of work went into designing the Angara and making them look very alien. I'm happy about that. Yeah, this concept threw me off a lot when it came to Jaal's age. Combine that with the snippet of his voice, and he's starting to seem...up there. I hope he's not super old. Ugh, none of this would matter to me if they didn't make Ryder so canonically young.
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Post by Yaslana on Feb 7, 2017 20:01:48 GMT
I still cannot get over these. So much detail. And I also noticed he has a lot of wrinkles on his face... Like, a lot a lot. It might just be an alien thing, but what if he's old? Like a lot older than we thought? They changed the model a bit though, and he looks younger in the trailer. But then again it might just be the pretty colours and lighting. Either way I feel like a lot of work went into designing the Angara and making them look very alien. I'm happy about that. I really wonder about his forhead. It looks much bigger than in the trailer but this could be just the pov we have on him in there... Or do you think they changed him a bit?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 20:02:07 GMT
Look at Bakura and his evil half and their hair, now look at Jaal's head Pfffft... well, to be fair I did romance a bald egg in DAI... sooo... Yeah Solas did not turn me on when I first saw his look. I kept getting Captain Picard images. His voice though is what drew me in, and soon I was crazy about the rotten egg. But honestly Jaal reminds me of an anime character.
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Post by Gludipow on Feb 7, 2017 20:03:20 GMT
I agree with you there for sure. I mean, it's possible that they're like... I'm not sure of a 100% perfect comparison, but I guess like Vikings. Women were considered some form of sacred and were also trained as warriors that could have fought alongside the men. Or like in Celtic culture where figures often thought in today's society to be positions for men (crafting, war, etc) are personified by female deities (sorry, I know a lot about ancient Pagan cultures cuz I'm nerdy). But something like that would actually be frigign' awesome. A culture that really respects it's females and treats that as either sacred or as equals capable of everything a man can and more. I will happily back this as a lady with a lot of viking bloodlines running in both sides of my family. Everyone is blonde hair blue eyes on dads side (inc. me and 1 of my brothers) and on my mums side there are a few brunettes and gingers but again blue eyes) Also mum is fascinated with family history. But all the women in my family have more fiery tempers than the males (apart from my dad). And when we all meet up there's usually at least one fist fight..... and its normally at least one of the 'ladies'. Most of my friends don't usually have this aggressive streak, but it can be amusing to watch. My family is primarily German and Irish (which if I recall both were integrated into Viking culture at one time or another in some part) so I can kind of understand where you're coming from. Members of my family, especially the women, can be hot-tempered and stubborn. But we are less likely to fight with our fists than we are to slay with our sharp tongues. I'm not kidding, the women in my family are sass masters.
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Post by palinopsia on Feb 7, 2017 20:03:26 GMT
I still cannot get over these. So much detail. And I also noticed he has a lot of wrinkles on his face... Like, a lot a lot. It might just be an alien thing, but what if he's old? Like a lot older than we thought? They changed the model a bit though, and he looks younger in the trailer. But then again it might just be the pretty colours and lighting. Either way I feel like a lot of work went into designing the Angara and making them look very alien. I'm happy about that. Where did you find this? Is this official? Someone else posted them in the thread, I don't remember who (I'm so sorry) but yes, they're official though 3 years old. Here's the link.
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