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Post by Kimberly on Feb 7, 2017 21:10:14 GMT
With no new info on Jaal, weird happens a lot.
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Post by louy on Feb 7, 2017 21:11:42 GMT
well.... if its getting weird I drew this: Picture however its not that bad (theres a mature filter on it) because i got lazy cand couldnt be bothered to draw clothes, it started as a kiss and well..... ill let your brains decide XD xx
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Post by Yaslana on Feb 7, 2017 21:15:01 GMT
With no new info on Jaal, weird happens a lot. I'm pretty sure the Devs lurk in the BSN and are very proud of themselves...
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Post by louy on Feb 7, 2017 21:17:12 GMT
With no new info on Jaal, weird happens a lot. I'm pretty sure the Devs lurk in the BSN and are very proud of themselves... Oh yes and i bet they are quite proud as the character is not even confirmed and we 2 shots and 4 seconds of footage and have managed 116 pages and no one has tried to kill each other and support each other.... actually i think they'd be proud xx
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Post by fialka on Feb 7, 2017 21:20:36 GMT
Don't get me wrong, I like the idea. But just... looking at it both artistically and scientifically... it's unlikely. They have given some other alien species "special abilities" as well. The Protheans could convey information by touch, the Asari have this mind-melding thing, Hanar do communicate via light... There may be not much science involved in these things, but it doesn't seem unlikely to me. It actually would be cool to have the Angara have some sort of weird trippy ability like this... I love how things like this enhance the 'alien-ness' of a species. But the bio-luminescence thing doesn't really appeal to me. I guess it could be sort of cool, visually, but... from an artistic view I'm not seeing it. Games typically achieve that effect with glow maps, and that's not what that looks like to me. More like they just used brighter colors in that part of the texture to create the illusion of reflected light. And the idea of getting some sort of glowy emotional response in a romance... yeah, could be neat if done well, but it'd be very easy for that to enter cheesy territory. (an unfortunate memory of shimmery vampires might be contributing to this 'no thank you' feeling...)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 21:27:45 GMT
Someone directed PeeBee's writer to the page on her here, so I wouldn't be surprised if the devs have seen this thread too.
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Post by amleth on Feb 7, 2017 21:28:50 GMT
This is...getting creepy. Last time I checked beastiality is both illegal and defined as a form of animal abuse. And please don't try drawing parallels with the gay right movement, that's between two consenting adults but this...Seriously disappointed that bioware is pandering to this crowd.
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Post by louy on Feb 7, 2017 21:29:43 GMT
Someone directed PeeBee's writer to the page on her here, so I wouldn't be surprised if the devs have seen this thread too. and they will be either very happy or going "How? How did they manage this?????" kind of shocked XD Im thinking the last one hahahahaha xx
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 21:31:26 GMT
Someone directed PeeBee's writer to the page on her here, so I wouldn't be surprised if the devs have seen this thread too. and they will be either very happy or going "How? How did they manage this?????" kind of shocked XD Im thinking the last one hahahahaha xx Like I said before, if Jaal was from a race we already knew, we wouldn't talk as much. Speculating the creation of the Angara, their purpose, what they are like in society, why would they romance a human and if they are working with the Kett, will always lead to bigger discussions. Also my unnatural attraction to my bro Scott is because I just realized who he looked like. Cullen. He is a brown-haired Cullen
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Post by Obliviousmiss on Feb 7, 2017 21:35:59 GMT
This is...getting creepy. Last time I checked beastiality is both illegal and defined as a form of animal abuse. And please don't try drawing parallels with the gay right movement, that's between two consenting adults but this...Seriously disappointed that bioware is pandering to this crowd. Every time you post here your bait game is weaker and weaker.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 21:39:25 GMT
Someone directed PeeBee's writer to the page on her here, so I wouldn't be surprised if the devs have seen this thread too. Maybe Neil (peebee's writer) will finally make an account and talk tease with us at the peebee thread. Let's get all the writers to post here to talk tease with us.
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Post by palinopsia on Feb 7, 2017 21:39:31 GMT
and they will be either very happy or going "How? How did they manage this?????" kind of shocked XD Im thinking the last one hahahahaha xx Like I said before, if Jaal was from a race we already knew, we wouldn't talk as much. Speculating the creation of the Angara, their purpose, what they are like in society, why would they romance a human and if they are working with the Kett will always lead to bigger discussions. Also my unnatural attraction to my bro Scott is because I just realized who he looked like. Cullen. He is a brown-haired Cullen I was thinking the same thing about Cullen after seeing the character kits... I can't put my finger on it but there's something about his face that resembles him a lot. Also can I just mention that the eyes in the character kits... They look so dead? Is it just me? (also Sara and Scott look nothing like each other. I mean sure twins don't have to look exactly like each other but they barely look like siblings imo but maybe it's just me. Oh well, I'll be playing a custom Ryder anyway so it's no big deal)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 21:41:03 GMT
Like I said before, if Jaal was from a race we already knew, we wouldn't talk as much. Speculating the creation of the Angara, their purpose, what they are like in society, why would they romance a human and if they are working with the Kett will always lead to bigger discussions. Also my unnatural attraction to my bro Scott is because I just realized who he looked like. Cullen. He is a brown-haired Cullen I was thinking the same thing about Cullen after seeing the character kits... I can't put my finger on it but there's something about his face that resembles him a lot. Also can I just mention that the eyes in the character kits... They look so dead? Is it just me? (also Sara and Scott look nothing like each other. I mean sure twins don't have to look exactly like each other but they barely look like siblings imo but maybe it's just me. Oh well, I'll be playing a custom Ryder anyway so it's no big deal) Oh yeah and that weird eye thing with Scott is why I realized he looked like Cullen. When Haven is being attacked, Cullen sometimes has an eye glitch and it looked just like that!
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Post by carcinnamon on Feb 7, 2017 21:42:27 GMT
The conversation seems to have passed a bit, but if you read the artist's profile on the Angaran head model, he says the following of the project: "alien head I worked on 3 years ago on the MEA game / the sides of the model were changed a bit and they added stains to the textures on the top / final model and textures by the MEA team / image from the last trailer" (source). Comparing the generic male Angara model to the still-shot provided of Jaal on the page I linked above, I think it's fairly obvious that Jaal's skin was "smoothed out," so to speak, in order to make him look younger to human sensibilities. My guess for his age is still around the late twenties to early thirties (I really enjoy the idea of him being slightly more experienced than our Ryders, but perhaps not nearly so much as actual grandpa Drack), but the wrinkled textures are more reflective of Jaal being inhuman, rather than any suggestion about his age. The comparison to fur-less cats is an apt one. Not every species is going to have firm, elastic skin like humans! About the bioluminescence debate, though. While I highly doubt that the Angara will be so, it wouldn't be too strange for it to occur in a sapient species. Nothing fact-breaking about it, otherwise you'd have to discount the entire existence of the hanar, cnidarian complexity aside. The Protheans with their biochemical psychometry were stretching it, even in a science fiction setting. I figure if that's believable, then a bit of glowing isn't that much of a stretch. The biggest thing is figuring out a reason for it. Bioluminescence isn't exactly commonplace in species that see a lot of light. Maybe the Angaran homeworld is near a dim star, out near the edge of the Goldilocks zone? But then, it looks a bit too tropical for that, and Mass Effect has always been extremely good about keeping their planetary temperatures and compositions accurate to what modern astronomy understands about their formations. Sorry to ramble like that. I have a lot of Opinions about hypothetical xenobiology, since I've been doing a lot of research for world-building purposes for my own sci-fi series.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 21:45:06 GMT
The conversation seems to have passed a bit, but if you read the artist's profile on the Angaran head model, he says the following of the project: "alien head I worked on 3 years ago on the MEA game / the sides of the model were changed a bit and they added stains to the textures on the top / final model and textures by the MEA team / image from the last trailer" (source). Comparing the generic male Angara model to the still-shot provided of Jaal on the page I linked above, I think it's fairly obvious that Jaal's skin was "smoothed out," so to speak, in order to make him look younger to human sensibilities. My guess for his age is still around the late twenties to early thirties (I really enjoy the idea of him being slightly more experienced than our Ryders, but perhaps not nearly so much as actual grandpa Drack), but the wrinkled textures are more reflective of Jaal being inhuman, rather than any suggestion about his age. The comparison to fur-less cats is an apt one. Not every species is going to have firm, elastic skin like humans! About the bioluminescence debate, though. While I highly doubt that the Angara will be so, it wouldn't be too strange for it to occur in a sapient species. Nothing fact-breaking about it, otherwise you'd have to discount the entire existence of the hanar, cnidarian complexity aside. The Protheans with their biochemical psychometry were stretching it, even in a science fiction setting. I figure if that's believable, then a bit of glowing isn't that much of a stretch. The biggest thing is figuring out a reason for it. Bioluminescence isn't exactly commonplace in species that see very little light. Maybe the Angaran homeworld is near a dim star, out near the edge of the Goldilocks zone? But then, it looks a bit too tropical for that, and Mass Effect has always been extremely good about keeping their planetary temperatures and compositions accurate to what modern astronomy understands about their formations. Sorry to ramble like that. I have a lot of Opinions about hypothetical xenobiology, since I've been doing a lot of research for world-building purposes for my own sci-fi series. Must be the design Tom was talking about on his Twitter account. He said he saw the concept art a few years ago, but Jaal's reveal was a first for him like us. He added he was an "interstellar Sir" probably because of the monocle that the art lacked back then.
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Post by palinopsia on Feb 7, 2017 21:45:59 GMT
I was thinking the same thing about Cullen after seeing the character kits... I can't put my finger on it but there's something about his face that resembles him a lot. Also can I just mention that the eyes in the character kits... They look so dead? Is it just me? (also Sara and Scott look nothing like each other. I mean sure twins don't have to look exactly like each other but they barely look like siblings imo but maybe it's just me. Oh well, I'll be playing a custom Ryder anyway so it's no big deal) Oh yeah and that weird eye thing with Scott is why I realized he looked like Cullen. When Haven is being attacked, Cullen sometimes has an eye glitch and it looked just like that! Lol it's not just Scott though, it's everyone. And sometimes it's in the trailers too? But not always. Like even in the scene with Jaal, Scott's eyes looked so dead and soulless. But we also have footage of some characters that look very alive. I'm guessing those won't actually be in the game... This is not me complaining about bad graphics or anything, I just think eyes are very important, and seeing them like that in the character kits worried me because I'm assuming those are final versions of the characters.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 21:49:50 GMT
Oh yeah and that weird eye thing with Scott is why I realized he looked like Cullen. When Haven is being attacked, Cullen sometimes has an eye glitch and it looked just like that! Lol it's not just Scott though, it's everyone. And sometimes it's in the trailers too? But not always. Like even in the scene with Jaal, Scott's eyes looked so dead and soulless. But we also have footage of some characters that look very alive. I'm guessing those won't actually be in the game... This is not me complaining about bad graphics or anything, I just think eyes are very important, and seeing them like that in the character kits worried me because I'm assuming those are final versions of the characters. Ya know that's exactly like Tarkin in Rogue One! They used an actor for the scenes, and added the deceased actor's original face to it, but you can't replicate eyes, so they always have this dead sort of look because a game does not have a soul even if the face is scanned from one with a soul. And the more realistic the character looks, the more noticeable the dead eyes become. Jaal doesn't have that look because he is an alien and his eyes are not based on a human's, same with Drack and Vetra. PeeBee though also has a strange stare.
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Post by Crim on Feb 7, 2017 21:49:58 GMT
Someone directed PeeBee's writer to the page on her here, so I wouldn't be surprised if the devs have seen this thread too. Maybe Neil (peebee's writer) will finally make an account and discuss tease with us at the peebee thread. Let's get all the writers to post here to discuss tease us. Back on the old BSN, Lukas used to drop in now and again into the Sera thread. It was pretty cool.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Feb 7, 2017 21:51:55 GMT
This is...getting creepy. Last time I checked beastiality is both illegal and defined as a form of animal abuse. And please don't try drawing parallels with the gay right movement, that's between two consenting adults but this...Seriously disappointed that bioware is pandering to this crowd. Your loss. Furry pride is going to dominate the world like or not, Jaal will be his messiah
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Post by jjdxb on Feb 7, 2017 21:52:09 GMT
Also, I know we keep seeing the same image of Jaal but can we talk about this scene for a minute? Ryder looks like he's either thinking "oh no, he's hot" or "oh no, I might be fucked" ... or both of those things at once. Hopefully he is both? In a very positive way. I really hope Scott can romance him
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Post by dalinne on Feb 7, 2017 21:57:33 GMT
speaking of which... We are not that many, 4 Arks a 20k people plus the nexus. It will be less than 200k newcomers. Donyou think they really care? Also, different thought I had... Do you guys think that the pilgrims in Andromeda ever learn about milky ways fate?I theorized about it. Maybe the last piece of information we have is about the Reaper Invasion. Aftermath, MW totally forgot / are not interested in Andromeda Initiative Fate, so they didn't update the current situation. So we maybe know about the war at some point but we don't know about the outcome afterwards, so we presume the worst. However, if they plan no reconect with the MW, devs probably think some way to evolve the three possible endings (Control, Synthesis and Destroy) in one outcome so...
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Post by palinopsia on Feb 7, 2017 22:00:43 GMT
Lol it's not just Scott though, it's everyone. And sometimes it's in the trailers too? But not always. Like even in the scene with Jaal, Scott's eyes looked so dead and soulless. But we also have footage of some characters that look very alive. I'm guessing those won't actually be in the game... This is not me complaining about bad graphics or anything, I just think eyes are very important, and seeing them like that in the character kits worried me because I'm assuming those are final versions of the characters. Ya know that's exactly like Tarkin in Rogue One! They used an actor for the scenes, added the deceased actor's original face to it, but you can't replicate eyes, so they always have this dead sort of look because a game does not have a soul even if the face is scanned from one with a soul. And the more realistic the character looks, the more noticeable the dead eyes become. Jaal doesn't have that look because he is an alien and his eyes are not based on a human's, same with Drack and Vetra. PeeBee though also has a strange stare. It's not that, look at Cora and Liam for exaple. It's about the textures I think, the surface is supposed to be a bit shinier and reflective as opposed to matte and dull. Maybe it's just weird lighting but idk. I guess we'll see when the game comes out. I'm just kinda disappointed I guess? I wouldn't care nearly as much if it was anything else that didn't look super realistic, but eyes are important man. Sorry this is very off topic
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2017 22:03:42 GMT
Ya know that's exactly like Tarkin in Rogue One! They used an actor for the scenes, added the deceased actor's original face to it, but you can't replicate eyes, so they always have this dead sort of look because a game does not have a soul even if the face is scanned from one with a soul. And the more realistic the character looks, the more noticeable the dead eyes become. Jaal doesn't have that look because he is an alien and his eyes are not based on a human's, same with Drack and Vetra. PeeBee though also has a strange stare. It's not that, look at Cora and Liam for exaple. It's about the textures I think, the surface is supposed to be a bit shinier and reflective as opposed to matte and dull. Maybe it's just weird lighting but idk. I guess we'll see when the game comes out. I'm just kinda disappointed I guess? I wouldn't care nearly as much if it was anything else that didn't look super realistic, but eyes are important man. Sorry this is very off topic Cora and Liam have darker eyes. The Ryder twins are very light. That's why you notice the lack of life in them. However we can change their eyes and the color, so with the right size and darkness/lightness you might make it look a bit more real.
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Post by Pon.ee on Feb 7, 2017 22:07:18 GMT
Also, I know we keep seeing the same image of Jaal but can we talk about this scene for a minute? Ryder looks like he's either thinking "oh no, he's hot" or "oh no, I might be fucked" ... or both of those things at once. Hopefully he is both? In a very positive way. Fucked in the good way?
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Post by Pon.ee on Feb 7, 2017 22:11:24 GMT
It's not that, look at Cora and Liam for exaple. It's about the textures I think, the surface is supposed to be a bit shinier and reflective as opposed to matte and dull. Maybe it's just weird lighting but idk. I guess we'll see when the game comes out. I'm just kinda disappointed I guess? I wouldn't care nearly as much if it was anything else that didn't look super realistic, but eyes are important man. Sorry this is very off topic Cora and Liam have darker eyes. The Ryder twins are very light. That's why you notice the lack of life in them. However we can change their eyes and the color, so with the right size and darkness/lightness you might make it look a bit more real. My Ryder will have eyes of liquid gold. They will be a stark contract to Jaal's icy blue and if he doesn't get lost in them I'm going back into the CC for another 6 hours tweeking the colour sliders
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