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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 18:23:45 GMT
I have mixed feelings about Cathleen Rootsaert. I didn't really like Kaidan very much but I loved the Citadel DLC. I know it's not really anything to do with the writing that makes me like a character or not, I literally walk down the road sometimes and see people I've never met and I'm like "that guy I need to punch him". The worst I can feel about him is meh I suppose Hmm... yeah, I liked Kaidan a lot in ME1, but was kinda meh about him in ME3. To be fair, he didn't get much screen time though. He was kinda adorable in Citadel though. Citadel was fun, if a bit too ridiculous, but Leviathan is actually my favorite DLC in the entire trilogy. Lots of spooky stuff and I loved the investigation aspect of it. And I thought the characters were pretty great in it too. I also loved how Leviathan wasn't a non-stop quest. We could come back later and discover new things!
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Post by Pon.ee on Feb 9, 2017 18:25:02 GMT
I have mixed feelings about Cathleen Rootsaert. I didn't really like Kaidan very much but I loved the Citadel DLC. I know it's not really anything to do with the writing that makes me like a character or not, I literally walk down the road sometimes and see people I've never met and I'm like "that guy I need to punch him". The worst I can feel about him is meh I suppose The best way to judge her work is watching Kaidan and male Shep's romance. Female Shepard had to deal with a Kaidan we were all introduced to in ME1 by another writer and she would have to try and keep him as that character and add her own development, but with Kaidan and Male Shepard, she was able to be a bit more expressive. There's a reason a lot of us like the male Shep romance better with him. Honestly I don't think I'd be able to stand it. I absolutely despised him. The moment he started assuming I was interested in him by just being friendly (from that bug you know the one XD) in ME1 it just coloured everything to do with him in my eyes. I just started finding him really annoying like he was trying too hard to be my friend when I was being so outwardly mean to him to avoid romance. I think it's just ingrained in me since I've played the trilogy through like 20 times and every single time I've been mean to him then left him to die. I suppose it's nothing against her as a writer so I shall go into this with my boundless optimism haha
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 18:26:16 GMT
Nonsense. You are very handsome! And hey, it looks like your wishes for Jaal being bi might come true! Shucks thanks but I hate how I look, but I am so excited and happy and hopeful Jaal is bi, it keeps looking more and more likely When Jaal is available for Scott, too, I'll be the happiest person on earth...please, be bi, Jaal.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 18:26:21 GMT
The best way to judge her work is watching Kaidan and male Shep's romance. Female Shepard had to deal with a Kaidan we were all introduced to in ME1 by another writer and she would have to try and keep him as that character and add her own development, but with Kaidan and Male Shepard, she was able to be a bit more expressive. There's a reason a lot of us like the male Shep romance better with him. Honestly I don't think I'd be able to stand it. I absolutely despised him. The moment he started assuming I was interested in him by just being friendly (from that bug you know the one XD) in ME1 it just coloured everything to do with him in my eyes. I just started finding him really annoying like he was trying too hard to be my friend when I was being so outwardly mean to him to avoid romance. I think it's just ingrained in me since I've played the trilogy through like 20 times and every single time I've been mean to him then left him to die. I suppose it's nothing against her as a writer so I shall go into this with my boundless optimism haha Well the writer for Kaidan in ME1 is writing Liam, so I'm a little worried for Sara now.
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Post by Blue-Slates on Feb 9, 2017 18:26:47 GMT
Since Sentinel is my favorite class, I doubt I'll take Vetra very many places. It looks like Cora and Jaal will be my main squad! (Gotta take the bae, right?) Actually it looks like Peebee's our sentinel since Invasion is (might be???) tech based and all Asari have biotics. I know power armour was part of the sentinel class in the trilogy, but Vetra might be a more engineer focused character. Probably???
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Post by Pon.ee on Feb 9, 2017 18:31:27 GMT
Honestly I don't think I'd be able to stand it. I absolutely despised him. The moment he started assuming I was interested in him by just being friendly (from that bug you know the one XD) in ME1 it just coloured everything to do with him in my eyes. I just started finding him really annoying like he was trying too hard to be my friend when I was being so outwardly mean to him to avoid romance. I think it's just ingrained in me since I've played the trilogy through like 20 times and every single time I've been mean to him then left him to die. I suppose it's nothing against her as a writer so I shall go into this with my boundless optimism haha Well the writer for Kaidan in ME1 is writing Liam, so I'm a little worried for Sara now. Oh god
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 9, 2017 18:32:39 GMT
Since Sentinel is my favorite class, I doubt I'll take Vetra very many places. It looks like Cora and Jaal will be my main squad! (Gotta take the bae, right?) Actually it looks like Peebee's our sentinel since Invasion is (might be???) tech based and all Asari have biotics. I know power armour was part of the sentinel class in the trilogy, but Vetra might be a more engineer focused character. Probably??? I think she's a soldier. They are traditionally tank characters, her favorite weapons is an assault rifle, and power armour might be a new and improved version of fortification.
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Post by Psychedelic on Feb 9, 2017 18:32:40 GMT
Since Sentinel is my favorite class, I doubt I'll take Vetra very many places. It looks like Cora and Jaal will be my main squad! (Gotta take the bae, right?) Actually it looks like Peebee's our sentinel since Invasion looks to be tech based and all Asari have biotics. I know power armour was part of the sentinel class in the trilogy, but Vetra looks to be a more engineer focused character. Probably??? People on the twitter-thread seem to have agreed upon Vetra being a soldier. I personally can't decide between her and Liam as soldier, one of them has to be an engineer. Unless Jaal is an engineer, but I doubt it. The bios aren't much help, either.
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Post by Pon.ee on Feb 9, 2017 18:34:50 GMT
Actually it looks like Peebee's our sentinel since Invasion looks to be tech based and all Asari have biotics. I know power armour was part of the sentinel class in the trilogy, but Vetra looks to be a more engineer focused character. Probably??? People on the twitter-thread seem to have agreed upon Vetra being a soldier. I personally can't decide between her and Liam as soldier, one of them has to be an engineer. Unless Jaal is an engineer, but I doubt it. The bios aren't much help, either. Liam went to a fancy engineering college before he joined Crisis Response. I think he's the engineer personally. Or at least he'll have the most tech skills
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Post by fialka on Feb 9, 2017 18:36:12 GMT
Since Sentinel is my favorite class, I doubt I'll take Vetra very many places. It looks like Cora and Jaal will be my main squad! (Gotta take the bae, right?) Actually it looks like Peebee's our sentinel since Invasion looks to be tech based and all Asari have biotics. I know power armour was part of the sentinel class in the trilogy, but Vetra looks to be a more engineer focused character. Probably??? I actually think Vetra is more a pure soldier. As you say, Vega had fortification, which sounds similar to what she does with her armor. She also uses an assault rifle, which tends to be favored by soldier types (Ashley, Vega, Grunt all had them as their starting/preferred weapon if I recall correctly). Definitely thinking more tank than engineer. Her light armor is kinda throwing me, but it might just be that she prefers tech shields over heavy armor for maneuverability. Liam actually studied engineering and his over-clocked omni-tools and the shots of him using tech powers in the gameplay demo makes me think he's our engineer. He just prefers to stab people with his omnblades than use a shotgun like Tali when he gets up close. So I'm thinking Jaal is going to be the techie/soldier hybrid. (As we already know Cora and PeeBee use biotics, and Drack's got that shaman look that people speculate means he'll be a space-mage biotic as well... unless Drack surprises us with a geeky side and Jaal has funky Andromeda-biotics instead... Would be a neat twist but I don't see it as likely.)
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 9, 2017 18:37:58 GMT
A thing to point out is that squadmates don't always fall in the same 'type' of the classes as for the PC. Thanks was a mixture between infiltrator and biotics, for example. Apart of Cora which is clearly the classical Vanguard, Liam might be a more offensive/close range engineer, with Vetra being a more defensive type of soldier. Peebee is a caster-type of Sentinel instead the ME2-ME3 defensive one.
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Post by kumazan on Feb 9, 2017 18:38:38 GMT
Since Sentinel is my favorite class, I doubt I'll take Vetra very many places. It looks like Cora and Jaal will be my main squad! (Gotta take the bae, right?) Actually it looks like Peebee's our sentinel since Invasion is (might be???) tech based and all Asari have biotics. I know power armour was part of the sentinel class in the trilogy, but Vetra might be a more engineer focused character. Probably??? Vetra seems like a soldier to me, I think Power Armor could take Fortification's place.
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Post by Panda on Feb 9, 2017 18:40:43 GMT
I'm not fan of Kaidan and his romance in ME3, though I admit those started bit on wrong foot for me and my Shepard. Rebound romances just don't feel right. I did love Citadel though, it was perfect DLC middle of ME3 apocalyptic feel.
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Post by Blue-Slates on Feb 9, 2017 18:41:32 GMT
Actually it looks like Peebee's our sentinel since Invasion is (might be???) tech based and all Asari have biotics. I know power armour was part of the sentinel class in the trilogy, but Vetra might be a more engineer focused character. Probably??? I think she's a soldier. They are traditionally tank characters, her favorite weapons is an assault rifle, and power armour might be a new and improved version of fortification. Huh, it'd be kinda weird that they'ed change the name though. But I suppose without class restrictions , there wouldn't be much point in have two different powers that basically do the same thing. Actually it looks like Peebee's our sentinel since Invasion looks to be tech based and all Asari have biotics. I know power armour was part of the sentinel class in the trilogy, but Vetra looks to be a more engineer focused character. Probably??? People on the twitter-thread seem to have agreed upon Vetra being a soldier. I personally can't decide between her and Liam as soldier, one of them has to be an engineer. Unless Jaal is an engineer, but I doubt it. The bios aren't much help, either. I think it depends if BW wants to take an ME1 approach where each class was represented by a companion. And then there's also the cut squaddie to take into consideration. Maybe there isn't such a clear distinction between them anymore? Like, Cora might not be a pure vanguard and Liam might not be a pure soldier. If that makes nay sense?? As long as Jaal isn't a biotic I'll be happy with whatever
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Post by Psychedelic on Feb 9, 2017 18:42:40 GMT
People on the twitter-thread seem to have agreed upon Vetra being a soldier. I personally can't decide between her and Liam as soldier, one of them has to be an engineer. Unless Jaal is an engineer, but I doubt it. The bios aren't much help, either. Liam went to a fancy engineering college before he joined Crisis Response. I think he's the engineer personally. Or at least he'll have the most tech skills Yes, no formal education was mentioned in Vetra's bio, so she is less likely an engineer, unless self-taught. But Liam's supposed fighting style is quite aggressive, with his two omniblades, which made me think he is a soldier. Doesn't make much difference, as long as Jaal really gets the tech/combat class, I find pure combat a bit boring characterwise.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 18:45:19 GMT
I'm having trouble seeing Jaal as a biotic, but someone pointed out the gauntlet thing he wore and wondered if there was more to it.
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Post by fialka on Feb 9, 2017 18:48:47 GMT
Well the writer for Kaidan in ME1 is writing Liam, so I'm a little worried for Sara now. Oh god He also wrote a million other things (he's worked on a ton of games, and written a very diverse group of characters, and some great missions) so I'm really not worried about it personally. Liam sounds really cool, so I'm optimistic that he'll be pretty awesome. I agree that Kaidan's romance is kinda pushed on you in ME1, but I felt like Liara's was too, if not as strongly. But I think it's more the game devs being like <we made this nice cute guy with a sad past why wouldn't you want to romance him ladies!?> I just think the whole romance aspect was kinda new to them, and that's why it turned out that way. I didn't think the romance was bad though, provided you actually wanted it of course... I'm a big fan of unresolved sexual tension stuff, and he kinda nailed it on that front, I think. As long as it's optional with Liam we're good!
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CN7 @rancidbiscuit Can you tell us who is the writer behind our lovely Angaran? I'm suspecting a #soon Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon Cathleen Rootsaert! She's done an *outstanding* job with him. Alas, she's not on Twitter. OMG, they answered me, bwahaha. That was my first time ever asking a dev too. #LuckoftheIrish Just saw this now, had to step out for a bit. Yay, Ian tweeted you back! I didnt realise Kaidan had a different writer for ME3 but now I have high hopes for Jaal Mans I'm 23 myself, will be 24 in June, yikes
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Post by Blue-Slates on Feb 9, 2017 18:51:11 GMT
I'm having trouble seeing Jaal as a biotic, but someone pointed out the gauntlet thing he wore and wondered if there was more to it. I don't know. I'm having a bit of trouble getting a read on what that is, but it looks less like a gauntlet and more like a part of his outfit?? It might just be some kind of interface, maybe.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 18:52:11 GMT
He also wrote a million other things (he's worked on a ton of games, and written a very diverse group of characters, and some great missions) so I'm really not worried about it personally. Liam sounds really cool, so I'm optimistic that he'll be pretty awesome. I agree that Kaidan's romance is kinda pushed on you in ME1, but I felt like Liara's was too, if not as strongly. But I think it's more the game devs being like <we made this nice cute guy with a sad past why wouldn't you want to romance him ladies!?> I just think the whole romance aspect was kinda new to them, and that's why it turned out that way. I didn't think the romance was bad though, provided you actually wanted it of course... I'm a big fan of unresolved sexual tension stuff, and he kinda nailed it on that front, I think. As long as it's optional with Liam we're good! No one knew the power Garrus' voice held over the ladies! This is why I think Jaal will be interesting as a LI. Kaidan was rather forward with his feelings in ME3 and also very sweet and understanding if you turn him down. He was always the shoulder Shepard could cry on if she was romancing another, and he was loyal to you to the end. Based on Ian's reply about how hard she worked on Jaal, she wrote someone that's going to sweep us off our feet.
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Post by palinopsia on Feb 9, 2017 18:53:48 GMT
I'm having trouble seeing Jaal as a biotic, but someone pointed out the gauntlet thing he wore and wondered if there was more to it. If anything, that probably proves he's more of a tech guy tbh, and we know he has some combat skills (that's a big ass rifle he's carrying, even if it looks kinda small compared to him, but he's huge) so I'd say that's almost proof he's an infiltrator, since it looks like some kind of omni tool maybe? It looks like there's definitely something tech-y about it I also can't really picture him as a biotic
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 18:54:00 GMT
I'm having trouble seeing Jaal as a biotic, but someone pointed out the gauntlet thing he wore and wondered if there was more to it. I don't know. I'm having a bit of trouble getting a read on what that is, but it looks less like a gauntlet and more like a part of his outfit?? It might just be some kind of interface, maybe. It just seems to stand out like the Omni-tools to me. palinopsia yeah I was thinking that too. He seems to have a tech vibe.
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Post by Pon.ee on Feb 9, 2017 18:55:17 GMT
He also wrote a million other things (he's worked on a ton of games, and written a very diverse group of characters, and some great missions) so I'm really not worried about it personally. Liam sounds really cool, so I'm optimistic that he'll be pretty awesome. I agree that Kaidan's romance is kinda pushed on you in ME1, but I felt like Liara's was too, if not as strongly. But I think it's more the game devs being like <we made this nice cute guy with a sad past why wouldn't you want to romance him ladies!?> I just think the whole romance aspect was kinda new to them, and that's why it turned out that way. I didn't think the romance was bad though, provided you actually wanted it of course... I'm a big fan of unresolved sexual tension stuff, and he kinda nailed it on that front, I think. As long as it's optional with Liam we're good! It is probably no surprise to you that I don't like Liara either! haha for the same reasons. Except x11
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Post by louy on Feb 9, 2017 19:01:18 GMT
He also wrote a million other things (he's worked on a ton of games, and written a very diverse group of characters, and some great missions) so I'm really not worried about it personally. Liam sounds really cool, so I'm optimistic that he'll be pretty awesome. I agree that Kaidan's romance is kinda pushed on you in ME1, but I felt like Liara's was too, if not as strongly. But I think it's more the game devs being like <we made this nice cute guy with a sad past why wouldn't you want to romance him ladies!?> I just think the whole romance aspect was kinda new to them, and that's why it turned out that way. I didn't think the romance was bad though, provided you actually wanted it of course... I'm a big fan of unresolved sexual tension stuff, and he kinda nailed it on that front, I think. As long as it's optional with Liam we're good! No one knew the power Garrus' voice held over the ladies! This is why I think Jaal will be interesting as a LI. Kaidan was rather forward with his feelings in ME3 and also very sweet and understanding if you turn him down. He was always the shoulder Shepard could cry on if she was romancing another, and he was loyal to you to the end. Based on Ian's reply about how hard she worked on Jaal, she wrote someone that's going to sweep us off our feet. I cant deny i'm a bit excited regarding whatever they throw at us, and im really excited to find out what Jaal is like. XD As for kaidans romance it was not my sort of thing. However Garrus!!!!!! that was an unexpected yes please XD xx
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