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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 19:29:01 GMT
The best way to judge her work is watching Kaidan and male Shep's romance. Female Shepard had to deal with a Kaidan we were all introduced to in ME1 by another writer and she would have to try and keep him as that character and add her own development, but with Kaidan and Male Shepard, she was able to be a bit more expressive. There's a reason a lot of us like the male Shep romance better with him. I did not have Kaiden on my M!Shepard, and I don't have Citadel. So, I will be judging her writing from scratch! Unless she wrote anything for SWTOR? She was the dialogue editor for it.
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Post by lilyenachaos on Feb 9, 2017 19:29:29 GMT
Leaked info given to someone who knows someone at BW had Vertra and Jaal as bi, Lexi as a lebsian, and PeeBeee as bi! I still can't see all 3 lesbian options being aliens. 2 of those Asari.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 19:29:34 GMT
I did not have Kaiden on my M!Shepard, and I don't have Citadel. So, I will be judging her writing from scratch! Unless she wrote anything for SWTOR? She was the dialogue editor for it. Respect.
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Post by Pon.ee on Feb 9, 2017 19:29:46 GMT
It is probably no surprise to you that I don't like Liara either! haha for the same reasons. Except x11 Haha... I didn't either. Like, her character was cool, and the one playthrough where I did get into her friendship arc I enjoyed it. But, then I tried to remain more neutral toward her and she just comes across as so pushy. And always there! Except in ME2, but they 'remedied' that by giving her her own DLC... At least Kaidan backs off after ME1 (you can play aloof with him in ME3 and he just accepts it - Or you can just kill him in ME1 and he goes away... I may have done that once for that very reason...). Where Liara just kinda sticks herself in so many scenes. Makes her go from a character I would've liked well enough into one I was just perpetually annoyed by. Especially since I couldn't help but wish that screen time had been given to the squadmates I really liked instead. So here's hoping there aren't any 'writer's favorites' in Andromeda, and that we get to dictate what our relationship is with the characters, and the way those characters react to us shifts accordingly. Yeah I spent the entire game pretty much resenting her, she ninjamanced me in ME1 despite being really mean to her all the time, then in ME2 despite it being my choise to not like her Shep was all up for hugs in Illium, romanced Garrus my OTP right there and then after I'd said goodbye to him before the run to the beam and I'd literally been sobbing in my chair Liara gave me that weird embrace eternity gift and I felt like I'd literally just cheated on him ._. I wasn't impressed. Yeah hoping Peebee won't be a writers fav, she's had a lot of screen time so far and was the first squaddie to have any deets on her revealed. C'mooon I really want to like you Peebee XD
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 9, 2017 19:30:40 GMT
That leak actually had a human female as lesbian, not Dr. Lexi. Great, she probably won't be a LI then. Wait, when and where was that posted? It was the one Davrin&Rook posted.
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Post by Rynnju on Feb 9, 2017 19:31:07 GMT
Leaked info given to someone who knows someone at BW had Vertra and Jaal as bi, Lexi as a lebsian, and PeeBeee as bi! I still can't see all 3 lesbian options being aliens. 2 of those Asari. This is what I thought too. An orientation has all alien LIs? That's weird to me.
I'm still thinking the redhead crew member who seems somewhat important might be one of the options. Also on Peebee, let's be real. She SCREAMS writer's pet for this game. Hopefully they're less obnoxious with it this time around, since she seems fun enough so far. I don't want her to be shoved in my face and somewhat ruined for me.
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Post by ames4u on Feb 9, 2017 19:31:20 GMT
It's possible he meant to put out a private tweet and flubbed it up. It wouldn't be the first time something like this has happened. But he reacted quick enough to take it down at least.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 19:31:33 GMT
The Elder King oh wow. I saw it a few days ago. Maybe the romance forum? It was something reposted on reddit or something. Not luke's! I need to look back through the pages and for Jaal, I have more than that to confirm his interests, but when I saw Vetra was bi in the leak, I thought "naww..." now I'm not so sure. ames4u chances are he forgot she was not confirmed and spoiled it, then deleted it in hopes he didn't mess up the reveal in the game.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 9, 2017 19:32:43 GMT
Wait, when and where was that posted? It was the one Davrin&Rook posted. Hmm, I don't recall him talking about those two when it happened. Maybe I misremember or he posted again.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 19:33:53 GMT
Hmm, I don't recall him talking about those two when it happened. Maybe I misremember or he posted again. No not him. It was another one I saw. Someone posted it here or in the romance area. I just can't remember who.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 9, 2017 19:34:25 GMT
Hmm, I don't recall him talking about those two when it happened. Maybe I misremember or he posted again. I asked him about it in a PM, so maybe he didn't post the lesbian human female in the public post. As for Dr. Lexi, that's just a guess on my part.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 19:36:36 GMT
Hmm, I don't recall him talking about those two when it happened. Maybe I misremember or he posted again. I asked him about it in a PM, so maybe he didn't post the lesbian human female in the public post. As for Dr. Lexi, that's just a guess on my part. Lexi was not in his leak. Only Jaal and PeeBee. The Lexi and Vetra one was someone else.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 9, 2017 19:37:56 GMT
I asked him about it in a PM, so maybe he didn't post the lesbian human female in the public post. As for Dr. Lexi, that's just a guess on my part. Lexi was not in his leak. Only Jaal and PeeBee. The Lexi and Vetra one was someone else. Do you have a link to it? I don't recall Lexi ever being in a 'leaked' romance lineup. I remember a few people thinking she may be one, but that's it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 19:38:32 GMT
Lexi was not in his leak. Only Jaal and PeeBee. The Lexi and Vetra one was someone else. Do you have a link to it? I don't recall Lexi ever being in a 'leaked' romance lineup. I remember a few people thinking she may be one, but that's it. I'm about to dive into the back pages here. Wish me luck!
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 9, 2017 19:39:57 GMT
Do you have a link to it? I don't recall Lexi ever being in a 'leaked' romance lineup. I remember a few people thinking she may be one, but that's it. I'm about to dive into the back pages here. Wish me luck! Good luck, live long and prosper, may the Force be with you, and may the odds forever be in your favor.
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Post by Talaith on Feb 9, 2017 19:41:32 GMT
Leaked info given to someone who knows someone at BW had Vetra and Jaal as bi, Lexi as a lebsian, and PeeBeee as bi! Wow, if that is true, then all of the alien squadmates (minus Drack, of course) are bi. I guess as long as a couple of them are straight they can keep their word that it isn't like DA2.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 19:47:28 GMT
Ah, the new information is making my planning a touch more difficult. I am still not sure if I'd like to play an M!Ryder or a F!Ryder. I've sort of thought about two PTs, with calling my Ryders Sunrise/Sunset or Voshod/Zakat (if I decide to translate the name into Russian for the OMG, fantasy name impact), but with Jaal and Vetra pretty much moving to the forefront and leaving all other team-mates way, way behind in the dust of Domi's liking race, and the game looking like it may be play-hour consuming, and padded with crafting, it's getting to the point of "I need a perfect choice for my protagonist!" It's all Jaal's fault! He's just too much of awesome. I was hoping the gender preference in romance will be helpful, but it seems not... I dunno if I can handle that much of the freedom of choice!
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 9, 2017 19:48:36 GMT
Thank you. Yeah it seems to be the leaks I knew about but someone put Dr. Lexi in a place that was not her in the original leak, maybe not knowing she is an Asari.
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Post by ames4u on Feb 9, 2017 19:48:45 GMT
Welp, since you've all posted photos. I'm kinda surprised a lot of you thought Kaidan was toned down in ME3- I always felt the opposite. However good writers are capable of writing drastically different characters so even not being a big fan of the last(?) character she wrote, I have no doubt she is capable of writing one I am a fan of. I think the epic swan dive into his sh*tfit during ME2 caused that. He was a bit cagey at first in ME3 but nowhere near as bad as he was in the previous iteration. So I can see where the 'toning down' may have been perceived. Ja'al makes me wonder if he has a bit of Solas' underlying intentions going on. Because I remember when the two new races were mentioned there was the added sting in the tail of "Is the peaceful race really peaceful? Do they have your best interests at heart?" This may have been an editorial though, but it does make me wonder all the same. Or he could just be curious as to what the weird bald ape creatures are doing on his turf while observing them like fish in a goldfish bowl....and now I'm imagining him watching fish swimming around in a fish bowl with his pupils the size of dinner plates. Thank you brain, I didn't expect that but I appreciate the effort. Hmm, I wonder if the Angarans have cat-like tendencies? Could you imagine using a lazor pointer to f*ck with him? Introduce him to catnip? Well, I've just given fanfiction writers and fan-artist's something to play with. Do with this info what you will.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 19:50:28 GMT
Oh sorry Mintty things got a bit crazy here with the leaks. You look lovely!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 19:50:29 GMT
And what have we learned today children? Release the goddayum list of love interests and thus prevent mass confusion, fear, panic, hopes, dreams, crushed dreams, and forum chaos and anxiety in speculating all your teasing Hopefully they'll just rip the Band Aid off on Valentine's
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Post by fialka on Feb 9, 2017 19:52:12 GMT
Leaked info given to someone who knows someone at BW had Vetra and Jaal as bi, Lexi as a lebsian, and PeeBeee as bi! Wow, if that is true, then all of the alien squadmates (minus Drack, of course) are bi. I guess as long as a couple of them are straight they can keep their word that it isn't like DA2. My issue with that leak is that that screenshot is the only source we have. I haven't see anyone link it back the conversation it originated from, or what website it refers to. So I'm not inclined to believe it. Where with the BSN leaks you can trace it back to the specific people, and even how they got their info. So yeah, I wouldn't put much stock in it. Though I wouldn't be surprised if Vetra was a bi LI, even if PeeBee turns out to be also. Considering ME's track history with female LIs in our squad (where even the non-romanceable ones tend to become LIs in later games).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2017 19:53:51 GMT
Wow, if that is true, then all of the alien squadmates (minus Drack, of course) are bi. I guess as long as a couple of them are straight they can keep their word that it isn't like DA2. My issue with that leak is that that screenshot is the only source we have. I haven't see anyone link it back the conversation it originated from, or what website it refers to. So I'm not inclined to believe it. Where with the BSN leaks you can trace it back to the specific people, and even how they got their info. So yeah, I wouldn't put much stock in it. Though I wouldn't be surprised if Vetra was a bi LI, even if PeeBee turns out to be also. Considering ME's track history with female LIs in our squad (where even the non-romanceable ones tend to become LIs in later games). This is all because a BW guy accidentally said Vetra was a space wife and then deleted it.
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Post by palinopsia on Feb 9, 2017 19:54:40 GMT
Ah, the new information is making my planning a touch more difficult. I am still not sure if I'd like to play an M!Ryder or a F!Ryder. I've sort of thought about two PTs, with calling my Ryders Sunrise/Sunset or Voshod/Zakat (if I decide to translate the name into Russian for the OMG, fantasy name impact), but with Jaal and Vetra pretty much moving to the forefront and leaving all other team-mates way, way behind in the dust of Domi's liking race, and the game looking like it may be play-hour consuming, and padded with crafting, it's getting to the point of "I need a perfect choice for my protagonist!" It's all Jaal's fault! He's just too much of awesome. I was hoping the gender preference in romance will be helpful, but it seems not... I'm having pretty much the exact same problem. This is actually stressing me out. I want to romance Jaal as Scott and Vetra as Sara. I don't know if I will do a second playthrough, and I don't want to wait that long anyway (it's going to be long game) to romance the other one. My original plan assumed Vetra wasn't a romance option, or wasn't really that interesting, and I really like Tom's voice so I was planning on going with Scott for my (first?) playthrough. Also I never play male characters in games, so this would be a new experience and everything was fine until Vetra's profile. And then her character kit. And the "space wife" thing. And then there's her voice... And I think I'm a little bit in love with her, so all my plans are ruined, I don't even know where to start planning my playthrough at this point. I want to romance her so badly, but then there's Jaal and I just. I can't decide. Bioware what have you done to me
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