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Post by Rynnju on Feb 16, 2017 16:34:50 GMT
To be quite and perhaps unflatteringly honest, the preciousness over Garrus by both a lot of the fandom and some of the devs annoys me. Characters don't exist to 'top' Garrus as if he was THE highlight of the original Mass Effect squadmates. Not everything is trying to "replace" Garrus in people's hearts. Visors don't belong to Garrus, they're typical scifi, Mass Effecty things. I see some callbacks design-wise to Garrus, but to dislike a new character over that already is silliness. I don't see anyone else saying that other characters are trying to 'top' original trilogy characters. That sole honor goes to the oh so amazing and irreplaceable Garrus.
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Post by elanor on Feb 16, 2017 16:38:16 GMT
Well it is near and around this time(ish) or in about an hour they drop something. I think today'll probably the day to expect anything. If there is nothing today, I doubt tomorrow will bring anything new either. Will just have to wait and see, though I'm keeping my fingers crossed. This week has been dyer ( ) Did they drop the last cinematic trailer on a Thurs or Friday? I CAN'T REMEMBER. It was not friday because I was working and didn't have time to see it the day it was released. I'm pretty sure about it. I want new trailer!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 16:38:53 GMT
To be quite and perhaps unflatteringly honest, the preciousness over Garrus by both a lot of the fandom and some of the devs annoys me. Characters don't exist to 'top' Garrus as if he was THE highlight of the original Mass Effect squadmates. Not everything is trying to "replace" Garrus in people's hearts. Visors don't belong to Garrus. I see some callbacks design-wise to Garrus, but to dislike a new character over that already is silliness. I don't see anyone else saying that other characters are trying to 'top' original trilogy characters. That sole honor goes to the oh so amazing and irreplaceable Garrus. Ouch... did you see the replies they got for that Jaal comment? People were not happy!
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Post by maskedbird on Feb 16, 2017 16:40:16 GMT
Just because they are both aliens and have visors doesn't mean that they are trying to replace Garrus with Jaal, at this point we know nothing about his personality, and to assume that he is just a replacement is pretty silly, I think a lot of people have to remember that these are two, separate, standalone characters.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 16:40:38 GMT
Well it is near and around this time(ish) or in about an hour they drop something. I think today'll probably the day to expect anything. If there is nothing today, I doubt tomorrow will bring anything new either. Will just have to wait and see, though I'm keeping my fingers crossed. This week has been dyer ( ) It's 9:32 AM in Edmonton and 11:32 AM in Montreal. I'm going by the time the last trailer dropped here in the UK, it was around 5:00pm, so 10:00am in Edmonton and midday in Montreal? Though a tweet in the Twitter thread seems to suggest we are getting the video next week now and nothing this week since the BioWare team are busy flying around promoting the game and showing it to the press.
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Post by scoundrel on Feb 16, 2017 16:40:58 GMT
To be quite and perhaps unflatteringly honest, the preciousness over Garrus by both a lot of the fandom and some of the devs annoys me. Characters don't exist to 'top' Garrus as if he was THE highlight of the original Mass Effect squadmates. Not everything is trying to "replace" Garrus in people's hearts. Visors don't belong to Garrus. I see some callbacks design-wise to Garrus, but to dislike a new character over that already is silliness. I don't see anyone else saying that other characters are trying to 'top' original trilogy characters. That sole honor goes to the oh so amazing and irreplaceable Garrus. While I have to agree with you over the defensive nature of lots of people in the fandom (which I don't really understand nor like for any character) I have to disagree with the "Well no one's comparing anyone else." I've seen people compare Jaal to Thane as well, Peebee to Liara, Vetra to Garrus and Nyreen, and Sara and Ryder of course to Shepard. I don't know about any of the other characters but I wouldn't be surprised. It just sort of comes with being a sequel (although I prefer not to compare characters like that, it sort of discredits the devs efforts)
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Post by lilyenachaos on Feb 16, 2017 16:41:03 GMT
To be quite and perhaps unflatteringly honest, the preciousness over Garrus by both a lot of the fandom and some of the devs annoys me. Characters don't exist to 'top' Garrus as if he was THE highlight of the original Mass Effect squadmates. Not everything is trying to "replace" Garrus in people's hearts. Visors don't belong to Garrus. I see some callbacks design-wise to Garrus, but to dislike a new character over that already is silliness. I don't see anyone else saying that other characters are trying to 'top' original trilogy characters. That sole honor goes to the oh so amazing and irreplaceable Garrus. I'm not looking at ANY of the new characters in MEA as 'replacements'. People that do are either talking out of their rears or setting themselves up for disappointment. There may be some similarities, but not like people seem to be hunting for.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 16:42:12 GMT
It's 9:32 AM in Edmonton and 11:32 AM in Montreal. I'm going by the time the last trailer dropped here in the UK, it was around 5:00pm, so 10:00am in Edmonton and midday in Montreal? Though a tweet in the Twitter thread seems to suggest we are getting the video next week now and nothing this week since the BioWare team are busy flying around promoting the game and showing it to the press. There's different things. One is the press (the gameplay one most likely), the cinematic trailer is still unknown and the profiles are totally separate as well as the briefings.
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Post by Rynnju on Feb 16, 2017 16:42:36 GMT
To be quite and perhaps unflatteringly honest, the preciousness over Garrus by both a lot of the fandom and some of the devs annoys me. Characters don't exist to 'top' Garrus as if he was THE highlight of the original Mass Effect squadmates. Not everything is trying to "replace" Garrus in people's hearts. Visors don't belong to Garrus. I see some callbacks design-wise to Garrus, but to dislike a new character over that already is silliness. I don't see anyone else saying that other characters are trying to 'top' original trilogy characters. That sole honor goes to the oh so amazing and irreplaceable Garrus. While I have to agree with you over the defensive nature of lots of people in the fandom (which I don't really understand nor like for any character) I have to disagree with the "Well no one's comparing anyone else. I've seen people compare Jaal to Thane as well, Peebee to Liara, Vetra to Garrus and Nyreen, and Sara and Ryder of course to Shepard. I don't know about any of the other characters but I would be surprised. It just sort of comes with being a sequel (although I prefer not to compare characters like that, it sort of discredits the devs efforts) I've seen comparisons, but I haven't seen PEEBEE IS LITERALLY JUST TRYING TO TOP AND REPLACE LIARA IN OUR HEARTS. Same with the other characters. I could be wrong, but I just haven't seen it. Sorry, I'll be more happy now. I woke up in kind of a bad mood and this whole thing just made me roll my eyes hard.
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Post by lilyenachaos on Feb 16, 2017 16:44:37 GMT
I'm going by the time the last trailer dropped here in the UK, it was around 5:00pm, so 10:00am in Edmonton and midday in Montreal? Though a tweet in the Twitter thread seems to suggest we are getting the video next week now and nothing this week since the BioWare team are busy flying around promoting the game and showing it to the press. There's different things. One is the press (the gameplay one most likely), the cinematic trailer is still unknown and the profiles are totally separate as well as the briefings. Hopefully they left someone behind to press the button to send news to us.
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Post by Crim on Feb 16, 2017 16:44:49 GMT
To be quite and perhaps unflatteringly honest, the preciousness over Garrus by both a lot of the fandom and some of the devs annoys me. Characters don't exist to 'top' Garrus as if he was THE highlight of the original Mass Effect squadmates. Not everything is trying to "replace" Garrus in people's hearts. Visors don't belong to Garrus, they're typical scifi, Mass Effecty things. I see some callbacks design-wise to Garrus, but to dislike a new character over that already is silliness. I don't see anyone else saying that other characters are trying to 'top' original trilogy characters. That sole honor goes to the oh so amazing and irreplaceable Garrus. Well shit, and here was me thinking Liara was queen bee for fan hate. No, I'm not okay with this.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 16:46:07 GMT
I'm going by the time the last trailer dropped here in the UK, it was around 5:00pm, so 10:00am in Edmonton and midday in Montreal? Though a tweet in the Twitter thread seems to suggest we are getting the video next week now and nothing this week since the BioWare team are busy flying around promoting the game and showing it to the press. There's different things. One is the press (the gameplay one most likely), the cinematic trailer is still unknown and the profiles are totally separate as well as the briefings. That's true. Hopefully we'll know either way soon. Might not stick around near the Twitter Thread though if its another day of no news. I reckon things are going to get even more negative there
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Post by elanor on Feb 16, 2017 16:48:50 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that Jaal is significantly better looking than other male Angara we see even when everything is finalized. I doubt they'll all be as detailed as him with markings on his head either. Now I'm imagining Jaal being a major heartthrob among his people. Uh oh! Check out the fashion sense! i.imgur.com/GdSc9Kq.pngIt looks terrible, I hope it won't be in game like that.
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Post by Rynnju on Feb 16, 2017 16:49:45 GMT
To be quite and perhaps unflatteringly honest, the preciousness over Garrus by both a lot of the fandom and some of the devs annoys me. Characters don't exist to 'top' Garrus as if he was THE highlight of the original Mass Effect squadmates. Not everything is trying to "replace" Garrus in people's hearts. Visors don't belong to Garrus, they're typical scifi, Mass Effecty things. I see some callbacks design-wise to Garrus, but to dislike a new character over that already is silliness. I don't see anyone else saying that other characters are trying to 'top' original trilogy characters. That sole honor goes to the oh so amazing and irreplaceable Garrus. Well shit, and here was me thinking Liara was queen bee for fan hate. No, I'm not okay with this. Maybe I'm just reading this wrong because I'm half awake, but just in case I'll emphasize: I'm not hating on Garrus at all. Garrus was my Shepard's LI, he's a cool dude. I'm just irritated at the idea that Jaal must have only been created because the devs realized they had to try and top Garrus because he was clearly the best.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 16:50:15 GMT
There's different things. One is the press (the gameplay one most likely), the cinematic trailer is still unknown and the profiles are totally separate as well as the briefings. That's true. Hopefully we'll know either way soon. Might not stick around near the Twitter Thread though if its another day of no news. I reckon things are going to get even more negative there Cheer up! Look at this and smile!
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Post by elanor on Feb 16, 2017 16:50:42 GMT
Waiting for any info is like:
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 16:51:09 GMT
HOLY SHIT!
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Post by Kymira on Feb 16, 2017 16:51:52 GMT
It looks terrible, I hope it won't be in game like that. Hah don't worry. Those Angara are unfinished texture and mesh wise. Those bright color blocks on them are a tool the dev's use to map where the armor meshes and such are going to go.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 16:52:58 GMT
It looks terrible, I hope it won't be in game like that. Hah don't worry. Those Angara are unfinished texture and mesh wise. Those bright color blocks on them are a tool the dev's use to map where the armor meshes and such are going to go. Yep! But I don't think it's just going to be armor. I think some are going to be civilian clothing too.
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Post by Kymira on Feb 16, 2017 16:54:19 GMT
Hah don't worry. Those Angara are unfinished texture and mesh wise. Those bright color blocks on them are a tool the dev's use to map where the armor meshes and such are going to go. Yep! But I don't think it's just going to be armor. I think some are going to be civilian clothing too. Yeah. Which is why I said armor meshes and such. Can't wait to seeeee!
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Post by Rynnju on Feb 16, 2017 16:55:07 GMT
It looks terrible, I hope it won't be in game like that. Oh they will look like that. The Angara are a race of unfinished, literal squishy Play-Doh people. Jaal is the only finished one, but even he's in danger of falling apart if you handle him too hard. Careful in those romance scenes. But for real, the idea of a bunch of the Angara coming at Ryder still looking like that is honestly horrifying. It'd be the scariest thing in the game!
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Post by scoundrel on Feb 16, 2017 16:55:51 GMT
There's different things. One is the press (the gameplay one most likely), the cinematic trailer is still unknown and the profiles are totally separate as well as the briefings. That's true. Hopefully we'll know either way soon. Might not stick around near the Twitter Thread though if its another day of no news. I reckon things are going to get even more negative there If we still don't get anything this week the Twitter thread is going to start caving in on itself!
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Post by Crim on Feb 16, 2017 16:56:36 GMT
Well shit, and here was me thinking Liara was queen bee for fan hate. No, I'm not okay with this. Maybe I'm just reading this wrong because I'm half awake, but just in case I'll emphasize: I'm not hating on Garrus at all. Garrus was my Shepard's LI, he's a cool dude. I'm just irritated at the idea that Jaal must have only been created because the devs realized they had to try and top Garrus because he was clearly the best. I meant that Liara must remain the most hated among the BSN fans, it has sustained me for years. No Jaal you are not Garrus 2.0, no Garrus, you cannot share Liara's crown.
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Post by Talaith on Feb 16, 2017 16:56:38 GMT
Wow, they have way too much loyalty to a fictional character. Also, we know nothing about him other than his name and species.
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Post by feainn on Feb 16, 2017 16:56:53 GMT
All characters are going to have similarities to past companions which is understandable, but to consider them to be replacements? Lmao no... Garrus isn't the be-all-and-end-all of companions and while yes, Jaal has a visor and yes he seems to be the most popular companion so far but in no way is he there to replace Garrus. Jaal is to be his own person, as well as the others. Why are people like this
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