Jaal Ama Darav (Official Thread)

Half my followers do lol I'm totally fine with it!

I was so into Skyrim and the new SE and it was my life from November to January. That darn cinematic trailer goes up and I only have MEA on the brain now!

I was on ladyinsanity's Twitch the day we first saw the Angara. She kept calling them Ivan Ooze and we spent hours studying them. Then I spoke up in the chat and said I'd romance one if available lol a few others agreed. Everytime we'd get into the Twitch chat after that I would keep insisting I would only romance an Angara.

I don't get one thing though about the Angara though... they all look the same, but Jaal looks... slightly different.

I guess he looks more feline than the others to me. I can see the scars, his piercings and monocle standing out, but his whole face? Maybe it's because his skin is lighter than the other males I saw. I just can't see those same feline features in them. They look more like the ones in the gameplay trailer.

I actually gasped out loud when I saw him. Not at all what I was expecting.

Yes! That's a great way of describing it! I was just so in awe of his appearance and drawn to the Angara even more than before. My intrigue shot right up to 100%!

This thread moves too fast at night. Lot of Americans around I guess

On some points.

Angaran's design especially men's look quite heavy. Jaal has broad-shoulders, but looks bit lighter in build than those earlier models of Angarans. Maybe they got changed a bit slimmer or Jaal has unique model? Or then Jaal just looks slimmer in the cinematic scene and might be quite heavily build other-wise. Not a bad thing, just some observation.

I don't have lot of problems with fangirling even though it goes over-the-top sometimes for me (but then people have different things they like. I go over the top with shipping myself, but not some other fangirly stuff). I have more problems with anti-fans and people going against fangirls really. The reason I joined in BSN first place was cause tumblr was filled annoying anti-fans of Cullen and I wanted to talk about my- at that time- favorite DA character in friendlier place. Cullen thread was that and I'm grateful for that, wouldn't have joined in Bioware fandom otherwise and met lot of people.

Tumblr in general is both good and bad. Has tons of nice fanart and funny text-posts, memes and fandom stuff. It also has strong discource mentality while discouraging actual discussion (which results in some users and posts just being hornet nests you should avoid poking in)- so it's better to not get into political or controversial talk in there.

In terms of Jaal's fans being obsessive. Well, this is big thread moving fast that has fangirls (and fanboys but people don't usually have problems with them) in it speaking about romance. That's really enough for it being labeled like that, as annoying that is. I see thread like this as fun to be around though.

I don't think she ment it in a negative way... I know why you guys understood it that way but she wrote me that this is what makes ME fandom great.

Since I personally never encountered the bad sides of Tali and Garrus fandom I didn't feel like she was attacking me?

I have planned two characters, Norman and Mandy, twins.

I'll play other game with Norman and other with Mandy so when I'm not playing as Norman Mandy is the other twin. Sara, Scott who? It's going to be bit annoying having other twin being called Sara or Scott, but got idea from another user (props to her) to headcanon it as middle name people are calling them with for some reason. I'll try to make them look same in both games. Also since other is NPC in first game I guess I'll try to adopt whatever personality BW gives to them in that one. If it's something I like anyways.

I liked vanguard most (biotic chargest FTW!) in trilogy so I guess other goes with that. Norman probably since I had my fem!Shep was vanguard. No idea about other at the moment. I don't have basic personalities down either, have been thinking a bit, but I think I'll wait a bit longer. Two squaddies. Well if Norman gets to romance Jaal he'll take him and same with mandy and Vetra. No idea about other yet.

Ohhh, trust me. The devs don't really overreact to fandoms. I think you're right that they're likely more amused by the situation more than anything. But even if it were something negative, I can kind of understand why. David Gaider, when he still worked with Bioware as an example, was harassed CONSTANTLY as the writer for Iron Bull. Because women were claiming Bull was an abusive relationship for Dorian, and they were romanticizing emotional and mental abuse. And they would harass him on both Tumblr and Twitter, telling him that he knew nothing about his character or abuse, to the point that Gaider had to block people. Which is really crazy, since to my understanding Gaider is a pretty cool dude. But when he got snarky at this one chick in particular on Twitter and blocked her, the Tumblr fandom went absolutely insane. Which may have been a contribution to why Gaider is no longer on Tumblr.
The Bioware fandom can get pretty nasty, and it's unfortunate when the devs are the targets. But when I witness stuff like that, it makes me really understanding why they'd be so wary. 
But again, I do think that the devs are more amused far more than anything else.

I love Gaider's work but he can be very rude to fans (some of which are admittedly just as rude), somewhat pretentious and rather defensive when it comes to critique. There are a lot of people in the fandom (not just on tumblr) who dislike him for the way he acts so even if, as you say, he got snarky before blocking someone- it would be at the bottom of a long list of reasons, many being very valid so I wouldn't call the tumblr fandom insane because of it.

Considering it's Gaider and not Weekes I've seen in these interviews talking about Iron Bull, I'm going to assume it's Gaider. I did look and I could swear I've seen other interviews where he says he is the writer for Bull, but conveniently I can't find them. u.u 
Well, either way... I know what you mean about that block button. There is just no pleasing people. They'll demand one thing, then when they get it, they'll want something else. Basically what they're wanting is a fairytale with an OP hero that never dies with companions that never die. Unfortunately, a game like that would become very boring very fast. And I do agree with you, I was really happy that Dorian and Bull got together. I found their romance... well... aDORIBULL. XD 

Hopefully we'll see less people throwing tantrums like that and actually enjoy the game. I'm sure there will always be a few toxic people, but I'm hoping it will be less prevalent this go-round.

Hmmm...I hated the Dorian/Iron Bull relationship-but that's not really important to the Jaal thread.

I saw very little of the drama with David Gaider, but his posts on bsn(official) seemed to show that he was not having a good time anymore-interacting with fans I mean. I hope he's happier in his new position either way, cause no matter what he played a big part in making a game series I adore!

(still off topic doh..gotta really pull this post together somehow)

Jaal is kewl!

(nailed it)