Jaal Ama Darav (Official Thread)

LOL I peek in the Cora thread every once in awhile. They still have a problem with her hair. I like her hair. I want a version of it for my Ryder. Not the same. I don't like my characters having the same hair as my squadmates. My first Ryder I want curly hair and 2nd a version of Cora's. I hope they give us good hair options. We've been complaining about crappy hair options for years.

I really love Coras hair too.
Had a similar cut a few years ago and loved it!

And yassss curly hair. I really really hope they give us curly hair this time.

I modded ME3 so that my Shep looked like this. I really love this short curly hair.
I guess I'll be happy enough if the hair in MEA wont be tooooo cringe worthy... XD

First off, thanks for the warm welcome

I actually wrote an answer already but because of my stupidity and the lack of a proper saving system for posts you're already working on ...it's gone now and I have to start again.
I should start to save my texts manually every few minutes or so.
Anyway...don't wanna complain anymore just going to try to scrap together what I wanted to say before.


I do get the urge to think about romance stuff in detail as well. I'm a very curious person at times it's just...this is an open forum. You can read here without registration so...the whole world can read here if it choses to do so and I think that some thoughts ought to be a little more private. Or in fanfictions.

I love romances in games.
I was a bit disappointed with ME1 there because I didn't think that Kaidan was that interesting so my F!Shep ended up with Liara and I stayed loyal to her even through ME2 when she's really trying her hardest to give you the cold shoulder. And it was a bit hard because when Garrus came up...well...I loved him. Dunno why...I liked him in 1, sure but usually I wouldn't take him with me and sometimes his world view was a bit...but when he appeared in 2...wow...it was just like magic in the air and excitement (and that damn voice!) and everything was just...perfect. So had to do a second playthrough for him (and a third with M!Shep for Tali...but...well...)

I disgress...

I love romances. In ME, Dragon Age, etc...for me it is an very important part of a story and helps me relate and live out my really sappy soft side but it's not everything. And I tend to be a bit careful where I invest my feelings in. So even though I was really positively surprised by Jaal - there were a few others like me that only knew the Angarans through some wishy washy looking npcs in Saras last trailer when she talks to Sloane - and that got me for the first time really interested into the Angaran race, I'm a bit wary. It doesn't help me to go imagine stuff when the reality might be completely different and I end up disappointed. Though I doubt it. I started a new game in DA:I recently and I'm surprised by how much I love the dialogues and interaction between all the characters. So...I'm very certain that I will get drawn into the dynamics by Andromeda as well and love every minute of it!
Other aspects for me for now are just more important than his bare chest oder butt...though I admit I will have a look on his pixel behind if given the chance
But I might not tell you what I think


So...okay...this ended up a lot longer then my initial attempt and carried me over to another side...but yeah...I will take your advice and take perverted comments with humor or look out for another topic.


On that note...I did write about a little, far fetched theory of mine with a lot of logic holes in it. Will give it another try.


While reading this thread a lot of people voiced a lot of my thoughts already. I spotted the Angarans in one of the first trailers as well...



And since trailers are mostly a mixture of different scenes and voice over often not even related to the shown scene that tell a story that might not even have anything to do with what the game is really about...it made me wonder about the Pathfinder's first meeting with the Angaran or more specific: Jaal.

The Angarans in the picture above seem to be in the vault. What if they actually took the Pathfinder prisoner? So we are in the vault doing our exploration and then a couple of (wild) Angarans appear with some heavy armored battle ships and all that and 'invite' us to come visit them in their city.
As a sign of good faith they let us take our own shuttle/ship but draw a gun in our face once we step out on their home ground and escort us to their leader.

I think it might be interesting if Ryder and Jaal if not met face to face maybe spoke before...Jaal as a kind of military leader that ordered the capture of that alien found in the vault (and who looked rather smug to me when he came down the stairs) and invited him via radio in the first place. Maybe he was even there in the first place but didn't reveal himself.

I think I like the idea of the Angarans taking a more practical approach themselves. If they are indeed in conflict with the Kett and if humans or the Pathfinder is in someway special (in controlling the Remnant tech maybe) they could try to take advantage of that and try to use these newcomers to that end.

Well...I might be completely wrong of course and Ryder landed in the midst of the Angarans more by accident or because he tried to establish his first official contact with them (after all the Angarans met humans before I would think) but when I look at Jaal I see a very ambitious confident man with experience. Battle scars and all that.

But maybe he is a bit like Garrus who wasn't always as confident as he looked.
But I hope that the similarities are mostly on the visible front. Though I really loved Garrus, Jaal being like him would well...for one rob me of the uniqueness that was Garrus for me and the two the chance to get to know another very interesting character.

And on Jaal concerning his age...(going to borrow another picture here without highlighting the proper area myself)



I see laugh lines around his eyes

And that's something I mostly see in men around thirty-ish. Okay, it might more be a skin thing...maybe it's a bit leathery and we dunno how old Angarans can get and stuff...but as a human looking at it I see a man in his mid to end-thirties with a sense of humor I hope it's dry. I like subtle dry remarks.

I love that theory! Also, where is that picture from? The Angaran in the vault? Is it from the first cinematic trailer? I completely missed that, wow. 
I can totally see something like that happening - the Angara hearing about these aliens looking for the vaults and they decide it's better to be safe than sorry. Also notice how Ryder is on his own in the entire scene? When soldiers are there to greet him, pointing their guns at him AND when he's meeting Jaal. I can't see any squadmates anywhere? So maybe he was the only one that got captured, I can totally see that happening. But that would mean the Angara are interested in the vaults as much as the Kett are (which, I'm assuming is a lot) so that might be a reason for why the Kett and Angara aren't friendly - if that is the case, at least. But I have a feeling it is, because why else would the Angara accept to ally with us? We must have a common enemy- or at least that's my guess. (Also, he does look smug, doesn't he? I can almost see a smile, even. Smug military leader with a dry sense of humour. I like that idea, I think it fits his design.)

Also yeah I noticed the laugh lines as well. Makes him look kinda old though? Maybe that's just me. It could also be a race thing, it kinda reminds me of cats.
Btw even the funko pop toy looks like he has bags under his eyes? Along with the crow's feet, makes me think he's kinda tired as well - in the sense that he won't take shit from anyone. 

I actually just noticed this yesterday, but if you watch the N7 day cinematic trailer, when you see what appears to be Angarans from the side for a split second, areas on their head do seem to be glowing!



I tend to be really fascinated by bioluminescent things so this makes me even more excited to get to know the Angarans.

Oh man. I hope you're right and that's not just weird lighting. I love bioluminescence as well, it's so pretty and just? Ahhh 

Think that's just lighting from whatever is in front of them personally.

Not sure bioluminescence would be that great a thing considering that in the animal world it is usually a defence method to illustrate a hazard, thus it doesn't make so much sense for what you'd presume is one of the apex species in Andromeda.

They've got stuff like this sprinkled everywhere! It's why I constantly rewatch trailers to see if I can spot any other sneaky inclusions we all overlooked. XD

It should be the N7 trailer. Someone mentioned it and I'm a bit lazy to look it up myself, sorry.

But I have to shoot that question right back at you for this picture:




In what trailer does this one come up and...what minute...?

I tried to get a better look at the Angara in their reveal scene by going through the frames in hope to determine if one of the Angarans might be Jaal or if it's possible to see where he comes from before he stands right in front of Ryder...but the picture above...where to find it?

True, but I'm sure they could come up with some absurd reason and besides, I'm no expert but there are other uses for bioluminescence in nature. It could be used for luring prey or attracting mates (wink wink nudge nudge). It could be a defense method as well. Maybe an ancestral thing that they don't really have much use for anymore but haven't evolved to the point where it's completely gone? We don't know anything about other life forms on their homeworld, what kind of predators there are, etc. So I guess we can't really say anything.

But it does look like lighting to me as well, so I'm trying not to get my hopes up. It'd just be really nice if it was true.

Also since they look like squids and what with the concept art with the waterfall, people were speculating they could be semi-aquatic right? Well, then it would make more sense for them to be bioluminescent, since it's more common in aquatic animals. 

Yeah it's the N7 trailer, I found it hahah. Also that picture is from the second cinematic trailer, as Jaal is walking down the stairs and we see the back of his head, that guy's face is there in the top right corner. The exact minute (or rather, second) is 1:08 and he's not even there for a full second, so.