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Post by louy on Feb 6, 2017 9:25:56 GMT
Oh my, and the thread takes off again! I still hate time zones u.u Regarding romance tropes... What I would find interesting (not necessarily with Jaal but maybe one of the other male!LIs) A male damsel in distress. Classic scenario, the LI gets abducted/taken prisoner by the bad chief bandit/dragon/Archon and Ryder has to go on a quest to save them. We had Liara rescuing Felon but they didn't end up together (T'Sovik forever!) and in a way with Garrus. But I want it in a cheesy bad romance novel kind of fashion. Only now the girl is the hero. XD *sigh* Ignore my silly ideas, back to Jaal Regarding Jaal secretly working for Archon and then betraying them to help us... Reminder me to much of Solas. I love Solas. So much that I'm still not over him. Not at all. (gaaawwd just gimme Da4 now) But I don't want another lier. There are reasons why I forgive Solas, and I'm pretty sure they won't apply to Jaal. Which would fuck the relationship for me I would be totally happy with Jaal having no issues at all. We can have a fun and engaging Loyalty mission without it having to be about 'issues' the LI has. It could be something as simple as Jaal taking us to a planet where he was to show us some natural marvel. And someone destroyed it and now we have to find the culprit. Good morning! And time zones are annoying I agree. I do remember some one was asking if you can get married in MEA and they did say yes but not in the traditional way which makes me think our angaran friend? or possibly vetra however any milky way species would know (im guessing to some extent) the courtship and 'bonding/marriage' rituals. again it makes me think Jaal...... Just a guess but will quickly go and find the video as im sure it was on youtube xx EDIT: 0:22 and it was "no, not tradionally." which suggests to me theres a kind of way but not like what we think. (a bit excited)
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Post by Ceoldoren on Feb 6, 2017 10:29:34 GMT
Heya folks ! I've decided to stop lurking on here and signed up. So I could jump on the Jaal bandwagon with you guys. Hoping to make him my canon romance with my BroRyder. Don't let me down Bioware !
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Post by Gludipow on Feb 6, 2017 10:34:03 GMT
Oh! I found more!
The music made me think how cute it would be if Ryder taught Jaal how to dance to this kinda music like we do on Earth.
And I can't believe no one even suggested this song... XD
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Post by Ceoldoren on Feb 6, 2017 10:36:34 GMT
Oh my, and the thread takes off again! I still hate time zones u.u Regarding romance tropes... What I would find interesting (not necessarily with Jaal but maybe one of the other male!LIs) A male damsel in distress. Classic scenario, the LI gets abducted/taken prisoner by the bad chief bandit/dragon/Archon and Ryder has to go on a quest to save them. We had Liara rescuing Felon but they didn't end up together (T'Sovik forever!) and in a way with Garrus. But I want it in a cheesy bad romance novel kind of fashion. Only now the girl is the hero. XD *sigh* Ignore my silly ideas, back to Jaal Regarding Jaal secretly working for Archon and then betraying them to help us... Reminder me to much of Solas. I love Solas. So much that I'm still not over him. Not at all. (gaaawwd just gimme Da4 now) But I don't want another lier. There are reasons why I forgive Solas, and I'm pretty sure they won't apply to Jaal. Which would fuck the relationship for me I would be totally happy with Jaal having no issues at all. We can have a fun and engaging Loyalty mission without it having to be about 'issues' the LI has. It could be something as simple as Jaal taking us to a planet where he was to show us some natural marvel. And someone destroyed it and now we have to find the culprit. I seriously hope they don't pull a Solas with Jaal, mainly because that would be awfully lazy after how fresh and interesting Solas was. I'd hate for 'The Betrayer' to become another Bioware companion template. I don't think we'll have to worry about that though, I think the Angaran's are going to be a friendly race overall. Something tells me The Scourge and the Kett are negatively effecting them as well. Though I'm curious if the Kett control the Scourge. That seemed to be the implication in the cinematic trailer. Imo, anyway.
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Post by Obliviousmiss on Feb 6, 2017 11:31:15 GMT
Heya folks ! I've decided to stop lurking on here and signed up. So I could jump on the Jaal bandwagon with you guys. Hoping to make him my canon romance with my BroRyder. Don't let me down Bioware ! Welcome!!!!!! And morning, Jaal fans! It's another week, full of possibilities and tweets..... hopefully some info!!!!
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Post by Kaazmiin on Feb 6, 2017 11:39:49 GMT
Wow, some of these lyrics are ON POINT! I mostly just listen to male (rock) singers, so here's my contribution to the Jaal side of the love song story
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 12:16:24 GMT
Wow. This ^ video really endeared me to Mac, anyway... *shakes fist at timezones* Also, in regards to the various romance leaks in and around these forums and the interwebs, I would highly recommend taking them all with a bucket of salty sea salt. Unless it is point blank confirmed by the developers, I'm not going to take anything to mean anything, even if trust the source, because the leaks are now venturing out everywhere at the moment, things are getting muddled, and its hard to now to keep track of and or rightly believe what is true or not. Which is why at this moment in time the only romances we know of is Cora for Scott, and Peebee for who, we don't know yet. Everything else should be taken as speculation. I hope that Valentine's Day they either confirm some more or just confirm them all. Otherwise more and more people are going to believe a leak, and may end up being disappointed etc. I think this whole keeping them secret thing has failed personally. Best to just get it over with already so people can let out their rage before the game comes out. Or maybe no rage. Maybe excitement. Maybe jubilation. Who knows. Just stop torturing us with the waiting BioWare *shakes fist*
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Post by Pon.ee on Feb 6, 2017 12:19:06 GMT
Oh mai songs I personally really like this one: It's a little more on the unrequited love side but I think it'd work perfectly if your Ryder was torn between two people fighting for their affection. Imagine, Jaal feeling bitter because another Squaddie is taking your time, monopolising on it and he thinks he's losing you even if you and him aren't really a thing yet.
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Post by Kaazmiin on Feb 6, 2017 12:28:22 GMT
I personally really like this one: It's a little more on the unrequited love side but I think it'd work perfectly if your Ryder was torn between two people fighting for their affection. [snip] Maan that's an awesome song, didn't even know the artist, even though it's totally my taste. A deep voice like this somehow fits Jaal really well in my imagination. Also really like the story you spun around it, but, ahh, poor Jaal!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 13:02:25 GMT
Random thing again You know, Scott is in more victorious position than Sara most likely will be in that scene with Jaal They both are the same height, so Scott don't have to lift his head for an eye contact, but he is also a little taller than Sara... I think you know, what i'm trying to say with my broken english, things may be (or may be not) harder for Sara, and if it's true, it will be interesting to see (please, Bioware, give me a little differences between brother and sister and their relationships with the others) i can't express it more, sorry
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Post by Ceoldoren on Feb 6, 2017 13:21:34 GMT
Also, in regards to the various romance leaks in and around these forums and the interwebs, I would highly recommend taking them all with a bucket of salty sea salt. Unless it is point blank confirmed by the developers, I'm not going to take anything to mean anything, even if trust the source, because the leaks are now venturing out everywhere at the moment, things are getting muddled, and its hard to now to keep track of and or rightly believe what is true or not. Which is why at this moment in time the only romances we know of is Cora for Scott, and Peebee for who, we don't know yet. Everything else should be taken as speculation. I hope that Valentine's Day they either confirm some more or just confirm them all. Otherwise more and more people are going to believe a leak, and may end up being disappointed etc. I think this whole keeping them secret thing has failed personally. Best to just get it over with already so people can let out their rage before the game comes out. Or maybe no rage. Maybe excitement. Maybe jubilation. Who knows. Just stop torturing us with the waiting BioWare *shakes fist* DaveLiam is the only truly reputable source when it comes to these leaks. He has a proven track record with DA:I so I trust him. Still take his with a grain of salt. The others you should take with a bucket of salt however, there's just no way of knowing whether they're telling the truth or if they're telling the truth and were lied to by the person who told them and so on. So who knows ? I think we can say for certain PeeBee is Bi however, Asari are canonically without gender and pansexual so she's almost certainly available to all. I agree though, I don't like this sudden switch from always revealing LI's pre-release to 'We're not going to reveal that info at all.' to now suddenly we're getting confirmations on LI's even though we were told we wouldn't. I dunno what's going on anymore. I hope they just decide to confirm all the LI's and their sexuality's but I don't know if that'll happen. As I said in the twitter thread, I don't want to get 40 hours into the game and find out Jaal isn't into BroRyder.
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Post by JewlieGhoulie on Feb 6, 2017 13:28:51 GMT
As a Varricthread veteran bsn who comforted many when finding out he was not a romance, know worst come to worst i will still be here dancing on tables offering comfort!
Also, I wanted to ask if they said anything about teammate equipment / making gear? Is t going to be like in DAI wear you can make equipment but it fits the persons individual style? If so, I'm curious about armor for the Angara (if he is a teammate was that even confirmed? XD)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 13:29:30 GMT
DaveLiam is the only truly reputable source when it comes to these leaks. He has a proven track record with DA:I so I trust him. Still take his with a grain of salt. The others you should take with a bucket of salt however, theirs just no way of knowing whether they're telling the truth or if they're telling the truth and we're lied to by the person who told them and so on. So who knows ? I agree though, I don't like this sudden switch from always revealing LI's pre-release to 'We're not going to reveal that info at all.' to now suddenly we're getting confirmations on LI's even though we were told we wouldn't. I dunno what's going on anymore. I hope they just decide confirm all the LI's and their sexuality's but I don't know if that'll happen. As I said in the twitter thread, I don't want to get 40 hours into the game and find out Jaal isn't into BroRyder. I trust the source also, but even they themselves have said, that it should be taken lightly, and not as 100% confirmed, as those elements can be changed and developed from the time they were shown and to the when the game is launched. And as to others, even if trustworthy and well meaning, it is best to still not take it as confirmed fact, again because of the way things can change, and end up being different when the game arrives. Take into account the way things get inflated when passed around, and now its nearly impossible what to determine as trustworthy or not anymore, which is why now I am only going by what the developers themselves confirm. I personally can't keep speculating, hoping, and worrying about the state of m/m romances in the game. I'm exhausted by it, and I've already spent enough time writing posts speculating, hoping and worrying. Now I guess I just have to wait, and remain hopeful, with a healthy dose of realism and pessimism. I just hope whatever I end up getting, it doesn't detract too much from my experience of the game.
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Post by Ceoldoren on Feb 6, 2017 13:34:31 GMT
DaveLiam is the only truly reputable source when it comes to these leaks. He has a proven track record with DA:I so I trust him. Still take his with a grain of salt. The others you should take with a bucket of salt however, theirs just no way of knowing whether they're telling the truth or if they're telling the truth and we're lied to by the person who told them and so on. So who knows ? I agree though, I don't like this sudden switch from always revealing LI's pre-release to 'We're not going to reveal that info at all.' to now suddenly we're getting confirmations on LI's even though we were told we wouldn't. I dunno what's going on anymore. I hope they just decide confirm all the LI's and their sexuality's but I don't know if that'll happen. As I said in the twitter thread, I don't want to get 40 hours into the game and find out Jaal isn't into BroRyder. I trust the source also, but even they themselves have said, that it should be taken lightly, and not as 100% confirmed, as those elements can be changed and developed from the time they were shown and to the when the game is launched. And as to others, even if trustworthy and well meaning, it is best to still not take it as confirmed fact, again because of the way things can change, and end up being different when the game arrives. Take into account the way things get inflated when passed around, and now its nearly impossible what to determine as trustworthy or not anymore, which is why now I am only going by what the developers themselves confirm. I personally can't keep speculating, hoping, and worrying about the state of m/m romances in the game. I'm exhausted by it, and I've already spent enough time writing posts speculating, hoping and worrying. Now I guess I just have to wait, and remain hopeful, with a healthy dose of realism and pessimism. I just hope whatever I end up getting, it doesn't detract too much from my experience of the game. Ah, are you a fellow gay dude ?!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 13:38:51 GMT
Ah, are you a fellow gay dude ?! I think that is a given by the quantitative amount of time I've spent in both the Liam and Jaal threads + endless speculation about the state of and availability of male romance options for Scott Ryder, specifically in regards to Liam and Jaal.
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Post by Ceoldoren on Feb 6, 2017 13:38:53 GMT
As a Varricthread veteran bsn who comforted many when finding out he was not a romance, know worst come to worst i will still be here dancing on tables offering comfort! Also, I wanted to ask if they said anything about teammate equipment / making gear? Is t going to be like in DAI wear you can make equipment but it fits the persons individual style? If so, I'm curious about armor for the Angara (if he is a teammate was that even confirmed? XD) Ah, Jewlie ! I don't suppose you remember me from the Varric thread during those days of praying he was an LI ? I had a piece of art of Varric reading a book while wearing glasses as my avatar and later a portrait of Dorian. I had the same name as well. I haven't heard anything about gear, but my personal speculation is that we'll only be able to craft/acquire armor for Ryder. While Squadmates will only be able to get new weapons. And yes, Jaal is confirmed to be a Squadmate, and also we can bang him. That doesn't necessarily make him an LI though. He could be a one night stand. No word on sexuality for any squadmate so far.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 13:40:52 GMT
Oh, i afraid that even in these two days between releases at least Europeans (and Americans in these period of time) can't get a confirmation in a neighborhood's romance thread if Jaal's romanceable... You're cruel, Bioware, but i still adore you for Mass Effect universe
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Post by Ceoldoren on Feb 6, 2017 13:42:38 GMT
Ah, are you a fellow gay dude ?! I think that is a given by the quantitative amount of time I've spent in both the Liam and Jaal threads + endless speculation about the state of and availability of male romance options for Scott Ryder, specifically in regards to Liam and Jaal. Haha, well a virtual highfive for you then. I'm curious, what's your current speculation for our M/M options ? I assume you're hoping we'll get Liam/Jaal/Reyes like me ? And I imagine that, also like me, those are merely hopes and your actually expecting to only get two options ?
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Post by JewlieGhoulie on Feb 6, 2017 13:43:11 GMT
As a Varricthread veteran bsn who comforted many when finding out he was not a romance, know worst come to worst i will still be here dancing on tables offering comfort! Also, I wanted to ask if they said anything about teammate equipment / making gear? Is t going to be like in DAI wear you can make equipment but it fits the persons individual style? If so, I'm curious about armor for the Angara (if he is a teammate was that even confirmed? XD) Ah, Jewlie ! I don't suppose you remember me from the Varric thread during those days of praying he was an LI ? I had a piece of art of Varric reading a book while wearing glasses as my avatar and later a portrait of Dorian. I had the same name as well. I haven't heard anything about gear, but my personal speculation is that we'll be able to get armor for only Ryder. Our squadmates will only be able to chance weapons. Speculation of course. I could be absolutely wrong. I do remember your name, but I don't remember the avatars! I was resident mom along with natashina after all! Hahah Anyway, welcome and it's good to 'see' you again! Where the armor goes, I was never really disappointed with the choice for companion armor in me2-3 so if that's the case so be it. I personally feel they made good choices per character in the past.
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Post by Pon.ee on Feb 6, 2017 13:45:00 GMT
Oh, i afraid that even in these two days between releases at least Europeans (and Americans in these period of time) can't get a confirmation in a neighborhood's romance thread if Jaal's romanceable... You're cruel, Bioware, but i still adore you for Mass Effect universe Guarantee on day 2 there will be a list on a wiki somewhere of romance availability for the Ryders. Someone will definitely speed run it.
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Post by Obliviousmiss on Feb 6, 2017 13:48:59 GMT
Oh, i afraid that even in these two days between releases at least Europeans (and Americans in these period of time) can't get a confirmation in a neighborhood's romance thread if Jaal's romanceable... You're cruel, Bioware, but i still adore you for Mass Effect universe Guarantee on day 2 there will be a list on a wiki somewhere of romance availability for the Ryders. Someone will definitely speed run it. That would be so so so impressive. Also guaranteed, the first 10 hour spoilers for people with EA access. Going to have to go COMPLETELY dark after the 16th of March, (AKA no BSN until I finish the game....except maybe Birthday thread. )
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Post by JewlieGhoulie on Feb 6, 2017 13:51:38 GMT
I personally believe that when the game comes out be it for early access or otherwise, any discussion should be put under spoiler tags for at least a month or a few weeks. Just proper interwebs ettiquite if people would like to drop by and chat here but not be spoiled. Just my opinion ^^
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Post by Ceoldoren on Feb 6, 2017 13:53:18 GMT
Oh, i afraid that even in these two days between releases at least Europeans (and Americans in these period of time) can't get a confirmation in a neighborhood's romance thread if Jaal's romanceable... You're cruel, Bioware, but i still adore you for Mass Effect universe Guarantee on day 2 there will be a list on a wiki somewhere of romance availability for the Ryders. Someone will definitely speed run it. I'm almost certain we'll start getting story and character spoilers around a week or two before release. As that's when people start getting the game early usually. We might also get some datamining with spoilers from early access if it's also on origins and not just EA Access. We'll probably know all our LI's by the time March 21st rolls around. As well as most of the plot if you want to get that info. I want to go in as blind as possible myself. Just wanna know if Jaal is a gay/bi romance.
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Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights
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Post by Gludipow on Feb 6, 2017 13:53:50 GMT
Wow, some of these lyrics are ON POINT! I mostly just listen to male (rock) singers, so here's my contribution to the Jaal side of the love song story I am screaming, omg! These are awesome! I can't even! Oh mai songs I personally really like this one: It's a little more on the unrequited love side but I think it'd work perfectly if your Ryder was torn between two people fighting for their affection. Imagine, Jaal feeling bitter because another Squaddie is taking your time, monopolising on it and he thinks he's losing you even if you and him aren't really a thing yet. Dude, this song is amazing and the vocals are fantastic! I've added both of your contributions to the Jaal playlist I've assembled here. With more songs, I'll add to it. In the meantime, here are more songs I'll likely add to the list: And this one, because the world the Angara seem to live on kind of remind me of the planet in this movie... This song, idk why, but I decided to listen to it and all I can imagine is if for whatever reason Ryder has to leave Jaal behind for something... I don't think I'll put it on the Jaal list, but still... Guarantee on day 2 there will be a list on a wiki somewhere of romance availability for the Ryders. Someone will definitely speed run it. I'm almost certain we'll start getting story and character spoilers around a week or two before release. As that's when people start getting the game early usually. We might also get some datamining with spoilers from early access if it's also on origins and not just EA Access. We'll probably know all our LI's by the time March 21st rolls around. As well as most of the plot if you want to get that info. I want to go in as blind as possible myself. Just wanna know if Jaal is a gay/bi romance. I believe the assumption currently is that Jaal is going to be a bi/pan romance option like Bull was. I don't think it likely they'll make him exclusively gay or straight. Especially considering his popularity.
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Post by lilyenachaos on Feb 6, 2017 13:59:30 GMT
Guarantee on day 2 there will be a list on a wiki somewhere of romance availability for the Ryders. Someone will definitely speed run it. That would be so so so impressive. Also guaranteed, the first 10 hour spoilers for people with EA access. Going to have to go COMPLETELY dark after the 16th of March, (AKA no BSN until I finish the game....except maybe Birthday thread. ) I might have to do this also. I don't want any big spoilers, but I don't consider who can romance who a spoiler, sooo...they should bring that info on already. I've said it before but their marketing concept for MEA confuses me utterly.
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