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Post by Gludipow on Feb 6, 2017 15:20:21 GMT
Which is why it's all convenient that the straight romances can be revealed, since there likely to be full of content and material. But they won't reveal any of the non-straight ones since it seems likely they are going to be significantly lacking in content and material, and thus draw a lot of backlash, which they probably won't want to deal with prior to launch. After launch they can just ignore it, since the game is done, out, and sold. They would have no prerogative to address any criticisms of LGBT content after launch. I get your frustration, I really do. But I don't think it fair to be throwing out that kind of judgement at Bioware over a leak that, as you said, is not 100% confirmed and could very well have changed. You're losing your head over something you yourself have said to take with a grain of salt. I mean, if you're that upset then don't play the game or write the devs with concern about LGBT content. Considering they're the flagship studio for LGBT representation in the gaming industry, and one of the few studios to take fan criticism under strong consideration, I don't think it's fair to make it out like it's so cut and dried.
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Post by Ceoldoren on Feb 6, 2017 15:21:13 GMT
While it seems disappointing for m/m I doubt BW will make it less after it's been in demand more since Dorian. I still have faith they will pander to all their fans. Exactly, I think Prince is being a bit too pessimistic. I think Reyes and Jaal, if the leak is true. Will both be fully fledged romances. Dorian wasn't a starting squadmember by any means and he had plenty of content. So I think Jaal will be the same. As for Reyes, he's kind of a big question mark right now. But I love me some Nicholas Boulton. So I hope he's a great character.
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Post by Pon.ee on Feb 6, 2017 15:21:14 GMT
Which is why it's all convenient that the straight romances can be revealed, since there likely to be full of content and material. But they won't reveal any of the non-straight ones since it seems likely they are going to be significantly lacking in content and material, and thus draw a lot of backlash, which they probably won't want to deal with prior to launch. After launch they can just ignore it, since the game is done, out, and sold. They would have no prerogative to address any criticisms of LGBT content after launch. Maybe they're avoiding it because they know that no matter who they make available for whom there will be backlash anyway. I mean they're stuck between a rock and a hard place basically. They made certain character only available to certain genders and there was backlash because the charas certain people liked didn't match their orientation, so they made everyone available to everyone and then there was even more back lash because "it's not realistic". Now they're going to get backlash again because they can't please everyone. So far there's a lot of good hype going on for MEA and I can imagine the more they release the higher the chances of it getting thrown back in their face for a reason they probably anticipated. We know that they're not all playersexual, they've told us that. So they know they're going to get shouted at regardless. Probably wanting to keep morale high as they make that final push towards release. I get what they're going for. We should just have a little faith. Bioware are typically very good with their inclusivity and I get what it's like to have a chara you're interested in that wasn't interested in you. Felt the same for Dorian in DAI but I got the message and he still turned out to be my best bro for the entirety of the game. Sometimes it just works that way and I guess we have to be content. I mean you don't shut people out of your life because they don't want to bang ahha. But then that opens the door of "I use games as an escape I don't want to be turned down because that's like real life". Not going down that rabbit hole but Bioware are kinda damned if you do, damned if you don't right now. I feel for them lol
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 15:21:18 GMT
Zenith was the only male Twilek, and one of three humanoid alien companions out of 40 in SWTOR. He was gorgeous, came fairily early in the game, had awesome character, purple eyes to die for, and was voiced by Troy B.
He was not romeanceable.
The females got to romance a nice black soldier who gave up on his carrier in the Republic military, and the males got to romance an alien waif (of a variety that was not otherwise featured in the game) who got orphaned before their very eyes, and was also forced on them as their padawan. Both of them joined the crew after Zenith.
BioWare make strange descision when it comes to romances. So, as long as Jaal is a romance for any gender Ryder, I will breathe a sigh of relief, gay or straight. I just do not want the repeat of Zenith situation.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 15:22:52 GMT
While it seems disappointing for m/m I doubt BW will make it less after it's been in demand more since Dorian. I still have faith they will pander to all their fans. Exactly, I think Prince is being a bit too pessimistic. I think Reyes and Jaal, if the leak is true. Will both be fully fledged romances. Dorian wasn't a starting squadmember by any means and he had plenty of content. So I think Jaal will be the same. As for Reyes, he's kind of a big question mark right now. But I love me some Nicholas Boulton. So I hope he's a great character. From the leak it seems Reyes is not part of the crew, but I have faith it'll still be amazing. They said they put a lot of effort into the romances and non-romances to make it all feel satisfying, so I will remain optimistic for my male friends. Zenith was the only male Twilek, and one of three humanoid alien companions out of 40 in SWTOR. He was gorgeous, came fairily early in the game, had awesome character, purple eyes to die for, and was voiced by Troy B. H He was not romeanceable. The females got to romance a nice black soldier who gave up on his carrier in the Republic military, and the males got to romance an alien waif (of a variety that was not otherwise featured in the game) who got orphaned before their very eyes, and was also forced on them as their padawan. Both of them joined the crew after Zenith. BioWare make strange descision when it comes to romances. So, as long as Jaal is a romance for any gender Ryder, I will breathe a sigh of relief, gay or straight. I just do not want the repeat of Zenith situation. Oh man don't even go there. Zenith was just... wow! I felt so satisfied when he finally opened up to me. I couldn't romance him, but I adored his friendship with my Consular. And while Troy Baker has a dreamy voice, it was not enough just to romance Theron in place of untouchable Zenith lol
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Post by Psychedelic on Feb 6, 2017 15:23:23 GMT
As a Varricthread veteran bsn who comforted many when finding out he was not a romance, know worst come to worst i will still be here dancing on tables offering comfort! Also, I wanted to ask if they said anything about teammate equipment / making gear? Is t going to be like in DAI wear you can make equipment but it fits the persons individual style? If so, I'm curious about armor for the Angara (if he is a teammate was that even confirmed? XD) I have the feeling there will be a trailer/briefing just about crafting and inventory-management in general, which would include how equipping and customising your party is handled. Some time ago there was a question on twitter if you could tint your armour like in DAI and the answer was "soon™" again. They could have answered such a small non-spoilery question with a simple yes or no, but they didn't, so I think they are going to release information about this in one package, preferably in its own video.
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Post by Ceoldoren on Feb 6, 2017 15:28:15 GMT
Exactly, I think Prince is being a bit too pessimistic. I think Reyes and Jaal, if the leak is true. Will both be fully fledged romances. Dorian wasn't a starting squadmember by any means and he had plenty of content. So I think Jaal will be the same. As for Reyes, he's kind of a big question mark right now. But I love me some Nicholas Boulton. So I hope he's a great character. From the leak it seems Reyes is not part of the crew, but I have faith it'll still be amazing. They said they put a lot of effort into the romances and non-romances to make it all feel satisfying, so I will remain optimistic for my male friends. Zenith was the only male Twilek, and one of three humanoid alien companions out of 40 in SWTOR. He was gorgeous, came fairily early in the game, had awesome character, purple eyes to die for, and was voiced by Troy B. H He was not romeanceable. The females got to romance a nice black soldier who gave up on his carrier in the Republic military, and the males got to romance an alien waif (of a variety that was not otherwise featured in the game) who got orphaned before their very eyes, and was also forced on them as their padawan. Both of them joined the crew after Zenith. BioWare make strange descision when it comes to romances. So, as long as Jaal is a romance for any gender Ryder, I will breathe a sigh of relief, gay or straight. I just do not want the repeat of Zenith situation. Oh man don't even go there. Zenith was just... wow! I felt so satisfied when he finally opened up to me. I couldn't romance him, but I adored his friendship with my Consular. And while Troy Baker has a dreamy voice, it was not enough just to romance Theron in place of untouchable Zenith lol Reyes is indeed apparently a Tempest crewmember. Much like Dr. Lexi who was just confirmed in the twitter thread. Lots of people think She'll be the Lesbian option and Peebee is the bi option. Which would fit with the Reyes/Jaal leaks as well. One alien, one human.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 15:29:58 GMT
From the leak it seems Reyes is not part of the crew, but I have faith it'll still be amazing. They said they put a lot of effort into the romances and non-romances to make it all feel satisfying, so I will remain optimistic for my male friends. Oh man don't even go there. Zenith was just... wow! I felt so satisfied when he finally opened up to me. I couldn't romance him, but I adored his friendship with my Consular. And while Troy Baker has a dreamy voice, it was not enough just to romance Theron in place of untouchable Zenith lol Reyes is indeed apparently a Tempest crewmember. Much like Dr. Lexi who was just confirmed in the twitter thread. Lots of people think She'll be the Lesbian option and Peebee is the bi option. Which would fit with the Reyes/Jaal leaks as well. One alien, one human. That's why these leaks are probably based on old stuff before they added more content.
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Post by Ceoldoren on Feb 6, 2017 15:34:39 GMT
Exactly, I think Prince is being a bit too pessimistic. I think Reyes and Jaal, if the leak is true. Will both be fully fledged romances. Dorian wasn't a starting squadmember by any means and he had plenty of content. So I think Jaal will be the same. As for Reyes, he's kind of a big question mark right now. But I love me some Nicholas Boulton. So I hope he's a great character. From the leak it seems Reyes is not part of the crew, but I have faith it'll still be amazing. They said they put a lot of effort into the romances and non-romances to make it all feel satisfying, so I will remain optimistic for my male friends. *Snip*
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 15:35:56 GMT
From the leak it seems Reyes is not part of the crew, but I have faith it'll still be amazing. They said they put a lot of effort into the romances and non-romances to make it all feel satisfying, so I will remain optimistic for my male friends. *Snip* Ah, hold on, I see what you were talking about now. My mistake. So Reyes is just a fling according to leaks then ? Well that sort of gives me hope that we might have a yet to revealed crewmember that is our fully fledged gay romance.
Assuming it isn't actually Reyes and you just visit him on a planet every now and again to continue the romance. Yeah it came from the same leak about Jaal. Also I think a dev said their fav romance only took place on a planet. Might be that one.
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Post by Crim on Feb 6, 2017 15:38:43 GMT
From the leak it seems Reyes is not part of the crew, but I have faith it'll still be amazing. They said they put a lot of effort into the romances and non-romances to make it all feel satisfying, so I will remain optimistic for my male friends. Oh man don't even go there. Zenith was just... wow! I felt so satisfied when he finally opened up to me. I couldn't romance him, but I adored his friendship with my Consular. And while Troy Baker has a dreamy voice, it was not enough just to romance Theron in place of untouchable Zenith lol Reyes is indeed apparently a Tempest crewmember. Much like Dr. Lexi who was just confirmed in the twitter thread. Lots of people think She'll be the Lesbian option and Peebee is the bi option. Which would fit with the Reyes/Jaal leaks as well. One alien, one human. Huh, Lexi being only a lesbian choice and an asari, that'd be a first. If true. But then that would mean Vetra is pretty much confirmed for not available. Which if true I'm not all that surprised. This is all guessing tho, we'll just have to wait and see, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 15:39:55 GMT
Reyes is indeed apparently a Tempest crewmember. Much like Dr. Lexi who was just confirmed in the twitter thread. Lots of people think She'll be the Lesbian option and Peebee is the bi option. Which would fit with the Reyes/Jaal leaks as well. One alien, one human. Huh, Lexi being only a lesbian choice and an asari, that'd be a first. If true. But then that would mean Vetra is pretty much confirmed for not available. Which if true I'm not all that surprised. This is all guessing tho, we'll just have to wait and see, lol. Another leak surfaced confirmed the previous leak of Jaal being bi, and added Lexi as a lesbian and Vetra bi, so we'll see soon enough I guess!
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Post by Talaith on Feb 6, 2017 15:41:22 GMT
Here's few more to add to the playlist:
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Post by Kaazmiin on Feb 6, 2017 15:43:28 GMT
Thank you! I love Ashes Remain - Without You... hyahh *goes off to dream about fluffy alien romances* I'm still debating getting Origin access for March... I don't want to go into the game rushed just because there is a time limit, only to start over again on official release day, but I also dont want to pay 5 bucks for early character creation... although now that I've written that, it's really not that much money... still, it would be a terrible tease, getting cut off after 10 hours. I'm not using it as an opportunity to play the game, I'm going to get in, look at how the systems like inventory and skills work. Wandering around the start environment looking at how everything is so pretty. Spend forever in the CC and just ultimately use the time to get a feel for the game and let it help me create my Ryder for the actual release. Any left over time will be on MP which won't be spoilerific for the main plot. Anything you do carries over to the game when it's released so there's no rushing anywhere. Your plan is super logical and I admire your determination! I don't think I could restrain myself from getting into the story as soon as possible, and then become sleep-deprived and at risk of spoiling myself because I'd be unable to do anything non-Andromeda-related *sigh*
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Post by Ceoldoren on Feb 6, 2017 15:43:31 GMT
Reyes is indeed apparently a Tempest crewmember. Much like Dr. Lexi who was just confirmed in the twitter thread. Lots of people think She'll be the Lesbian option and Peebee is the bi option. Which would fit with the Reyes/Jaal leaks as well. One alien, one human. Huh, Lexi being only a lesbian choice and an asari, that'd be a first. If true. But then that would mean Vetra is pretty much confirmed for not available. Which if true I'm not all that surprised. This is all guessing tho, we'll just have to wait and see, lol. I really think it's more likely that the same sex options for both genders are set up the same: One crewmember that's gay, one squadmember that's bi. That would seem to make sense.
No guarantee's of course. But we'll see. I honestly didn't expect Vetra to ever be an option. I know a ton of people wanted her to be because female turian. But she just never seemed likely.
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Post by Ceoldoren on Feb 6, 2017 15:45:39 GMT
Huh, Lexi being only a lesbian choice and an asari, that'd be a first. If true. But then that would mean Vetra is pretty much confirmed for not available. Which if true I'm not all that surprised. This is all guessing tho, we'll just have to wait and see, lol. Another leak surfaced confirmed the previous leak of Jaal being bi, and added Lexi as a lesbian and Vetra bi, so we'll see soon enough I guess! I saw Vetra in the leaks thread but I didn't know if that actually came from a leak or not. Good to know at least. Theirs so many leaks now that it's kinda gotten weird. Sort of have to just take in the news while expecting nothing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 15:47:29 GMT
Another leak surfaced confirmed the previous leak of Jaal being bi, and added Lexi as a lesbian and Vetra bi, so we'll see soon enough I guess! I saw Vetra in the leaks thread but I didn't know if that actually came from a leak or not. Good to know at least. Theirs so many leaks now that it's kinda gotten weird. Sort of have to just take in the news while expecting nothing. I'm sticking with the obvious. Cora, PeeBee and Jaal. All have been pretty much confirmed by the devs, just not in detail for the last 2.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 15:49:51 GMT
My apologies for my harsh post a while back about BioWare and the LGBT romances, I can get a bit heated about this, mainly stemming from my pessimism and worries. I've deleted the post and will refrain from voicing such negative statements again in the future, I should have thought more before I posted and am sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 15:51:41 GMT
My apologies for my harsh post a while back about BioWare and the LGBT romances, I can get a bit heated about this, mainly stemming from my pessimism and worries. I've deleted the post and will refrain from voicing such negative statements again in the future, I should have thought more before I posted and am sorry. There is nothing wrong with what you said, nor should you have felt the need to delete it. We already said this thread is filled with people that are like family, and everyone is understanding and accepting of each others opinions. Some might voice them louder than others, but you should never feel you have to censor yourself.
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Post by Ceoldoren on Feb 6, 2017 15:52:24 GMT
My apologies for my harsh post a while back about BioWare and the LGBT romances, I can get a bit heated about this, mainly stemming from my pessimism and worries. I've deleted the post and will refrain from voicing such negative statements again in the future, I should have thought more before I posted and am sorry. Hey man, don't worry about it. Negativity like that needs to be let out and I totally understand where you're coming from because I'm worried as hell too. Just gotta try to stay positive until we get some real confirmation on M/M stuff or the game releases and we can finally see for ourselves.
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Post by Yaslana on Feb 6, 2017 15:58:29 GMT
Guarantee on day 2 there will be a list on a wiki somewhere of romance availability for the Ryders. Someone will definitely speed run it. That would be so so so impressive. Also guaranteed, the first 10 hour spoilers for people with EA access. Going to have to go COMPLETELY dark after the 16th of March, (AKA no BSN until I finish the game....except maybe Birthday thread. ) Oh gosh me too... Tbh I'm scared. No Twitter, no bsn, no nothing. I will feel so alone. And then it seems it doesn't even start on 16th.for Europeans b/c we can download the game on 17th 6pm earliest. *sigh* And then I have to put 10h into 7 days... I think I will knit. A lot.
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Post by Crim on Feb 6, 2017 16:03:45 GMT
My apologies for my harsh post a while back about BioWare and the LGBT romances, I can get a bit heated about this, mainly stemming from my pessimism and worries. I've deleted the post and will refrain from voicing such negative statements again in the future, I should have thought more before I posted and am sorry. Everyone needs to vent now and again and I completely get where you're coming from, no apologies needed. We're in the same boat, hey.
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Post by Kimberly on Feb 6, 2017 16:05:27 GMT
I'm hoping they release something this week. We 5 weeks after this week left.
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Post by Ceoldoren on Feb 6, 2017 16:07:15 GMT
I'm hoping they release something this week. We 5 weeks after this week left. I remember seeing from one of the more credible leakers on I believe neogaf (Don't quote me on that.) That we're supposed to be getting some lengthy gameplay this month. Fingers crossed.
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Post by Ceoldoren on Feb 6, 2017 16:08:24 GMT
Oh and completely unrelated. But I've got Nioh pre-ordered on PS4 and I'm hype as fuck for that to unlock tonight.
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