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Post by Davrin's boobs on Feb 6, 2017 18:42:21 GMT
That is true, but... maybe they wouldn't be so stuck if they'd consistently do the following: 1. Give equal amounts of content to all players. 2. Stop making the most significant characters straight. 3. Stop making "the gay option" NPCs. 4. For the love of god avoid stereotypes when writing LGBT characters. Some BioWare games have managed some of these, none has managed all.
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Post by Kimberly on Feb 6, 2017 18:43:33 GMT
I hope everyone gets what they want. However it will be impossible to make everyone happy. There will always be people who believe they were cheated. I hope they don't screw over gay/lesbian gamers.
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Post by Artemis on Feb 6, 2017 18:45:14 GMT
Oooh, I'd really like it if Jaal was the dominant and protective type... I'm kinda tired of awkward, insecure male romance options tbh. Would be nice to have that in a m/m romance, too! ...... WITHOUT HIM TYING ME TO A BED AND HAVING ROUGH PAINFUL SEX WITH ME Fuck you Iron Bull Nah just kidding babe, but seriously FUCK YOU
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Post by Artemis on Feb 6, 2017 18:47:21 GMT
and thats why we have fan fiction and art get all those kinky drawings ready XD Ah, I don't think anyone reads/writes fanfiction any more, but drawings are going be all the rage, I am sure Hmph!! archiveofourown.org/users/ArtemisMoonsong
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 18:48:05 GMT
It's hard to make everyone happy with limited amount of characters. There will always be disproportions and most favoured will always be straight men. Bioware is doing good job already. And I'm writing it even if I'm usually not entirely happy with what they've done. I agree with this sentiment, and tbh, if the lovestory interests me, I am willing to pick a different protagonist. As much as gay romance is appealing in that I can both play a protagonist that will look & sound appealing to me in every scene, romantic or not, & seeing a romance with an attractive male, I can certainly play a female, or if a female LI is neat, I would play through as a straight male. It's more about a love story for me that captures my imagination than about being able to play the character that is specifically of this or that sexual persuasion. I honestly do not know which love story appeals to me, because I liked different ones. I've liked a completely asexual as with Zenith and Bao Dur, and inverse one (for me) between Vette and Sith Warrior, I've like the one that aligns with my own sexuality/gender between F!Shepard and Thane and the gay male love story with Cytherat (and chances are Anders' as well). And in some stories, to be honest, my protagonist was the most interesting character around, so he went unattached to a mere NPC, he was all mine, lol. I do understand where the folks are coming from, because I used to feel very left out as a straight female player back in the day of BG2 and KOTOR and JE, but I found that refocusing on the romance itself was rewarding.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 18:49:45 GMT
I'm looking forward to a cinematic trailer with Sara too. Who knows maybe they'll have her kissing someone too. It would be nice if they had her kissing a female LI. I wonder how many heads would explode if they did. It's too bad we still have to sensor things like that. I don't see that happening, but... it sure would be friggin awesome. The Sims 4 has recently started putting same sex couples in their ads and I don't think they've gotten any negative backlash for it. But that's the Sims. Very different player base. In one point it will be wonderful, but in another... not so. Again with pleasuring a male base and not equality. But if they gave that to Scott and then for Sara too (tho it's impossible, but a girl can dream, like people say) it would be golden
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Post by Artemis on Feb 6, 2017 18:49:56 GMT
I've looked at ff.net for the last few games I've played, and it was so quiet compared to the heyday of the Baldur's gate fics I guess, there are more sites now anyways, so they do not get condensed so much, or maybe other games did not really generate the fics. Well, we'll see what happens with ME:A release. I might have to ask for where folks park the stories nowadays. I like good writing for video-games. Archive of our Own is where it's at these days. I haven't visited FFN in years...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 18:49:57 GMT
Basically the real question is, would you prefer a m/m romance just because it's m/m or would you prefer a romance that's m/m, f/m or f/f because it's a good love story?
If Liam is the serious one and Jaal is less important, I will be disappointed, but if Liam's is written well, then I will enjoy it.
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Post by Kimberly on Feb 6, 2017 18:52:59 GMT
I have a hard time playing anything other than a female when I have the choice. So I will always only play as females. However I do end up watching YouTube videos of the other romances.
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Post by Crim on Feb 6, 2017 18:53:05 GMT
Oooh, I'd really like it if Jaal was the dominant and protective type... I'm kinda tired of awkward, insecure male romance options tbh. Would be nice to have that in a m/m romance, too! ...... WITHOUT HIM TYING ME TO A BED AND HAVING ROUGH PAINFUL SEX WITH ME Fuck you Iron Bull Nah just kidding babe, but seriously FUCK YOU Aha. I also attempted his romance but gave up half way through, not my cup of tea it seems.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 18:54:39 GMT
Would be nice to have that in a m/m romance, too! ...... WITHOUT HIM TYING ME TO A BED AND HAVING ROUGH PAINFUL SEX WITH ME Fuck you Iron Bull Nah just kidding babe, but seriously FUCK YOU Aha. I also attempted his romance but gave up half way through, not my cup of tea it seems. It's too bad people felt that way. If you fully romance him it's a beautiful romance. Just hearing him tell you he loves you as he gentle strokes your face was so precious to me, and having him by my side at the end of Trespasser was the best
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Post by Rynnju on Feb 6, 2017 18:55:03 GMT
I'd be fine if Jaal's romantic confidence was more like Solas'. In that Solas never felt like he was pushing you around or trying to control, but his confidence shined through very clearly (once he stopped going "oh, we probably shouldn't"). There's a reason his kiss scenes were the best in the game. That man was no stuttering virgin. I'm totally not biased whatsoever by the way. Perish the thought!
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Post by louy on Feb 6, 2017 18:55:06 GMT
It's hard to make everyone happy with limited amount of characters. There will always be disproportions and most favoured will always be straight men. Bioware is doing good job already. And I'm writing it even if I'm usually not entirely happy with what they've done. I agree with this sentiment, and tbh, if the lovestory interests me, I am willing to pick a different protagonist. As much as gay romance is appealing in that I can both play a protagonist that will look & sound appealing to me in every scene, romantic or not, & seeing a romance with an attractive male, I can certainly play a female, or if a female LI is neat, I would play through as a straight male. It's more about a love story for me that captures my imagination than about being able to play the character that is specifically of this or that sexual persuasion. I honestly do not know which love story appeals to me, because I liked different ones. I've liked a completely asexual as with Zenith and Bao Dur, and inverse one (for me) between Vette and Sith Warrior, I've like the one that aligns with my own sexuality/gender between F!Shepard and Thane and the gay male love story with Cytherat (and chances are Anders' as well). And in some stories, to be honest, my protagonist was the most interesting character around, so he went unattached to a mere NPC, he was all mine, lol. I do understand where the folks are coming from, because I used to feel very left out as a straight female player back in the day of BG2 and KOTOR and JE, but I found that refocusing on the romance itself was rewarding. I completely agree with this, if you like the character but are not currently playing as that characters interest switch to something else so you can romance them. I know it can be annoying but I am a female player (who prefers to play as a female) but happily played as a male inquisitor just so i could bang dorian (even if my character was a very feminine looking elf, still a dude) xx
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Post by Dirk on Feb 6, 2017 18:56:07 GMT
Basically the real question is, would you prefer a m/m romance just because it's m/m or would you prefer a romance that's m/m, f/m or f/f because it's a good love story? If Liam is the serious one and Jaal is less important, I will be disappointed, but if Liam's is written well, then I will enjoy it. Being m/m romance and being a good love story are both prerequisites to my preference.
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Post by Artemis on Feb 6, 2017 18:56:08 GMT
Basically the real question is, would you prefer a m/m romance just because it's m/m or would you prefer a romance that's m/m, f/m or f/f because it's a good love story? If Liam is the serious one and Jaal is less important, I will be disappointed, but if Liam's is written well, then I will enjoy it. I always go for m/m first (then later f/f). But if it's a REALLY BAD romance and I just definitely don't like it, I will go for alternate romances. That happened in DAI. I forced myself to do Bull's romance, and though I love him, the BDSM is 1000% not for me and genuinely upset me (emotionally). I don't care for Dorian romantically in any way shape or form. So after indulging myself with modded m!solavellan, lol, I started Blackwall, Sera, and Josephine romances. Looking forward to completing them all For me "a good love story" rarely happens in m/f romances because they are almost always so cliche. I do have plenty of het ships but they usually involve very strong women (like Shiro x Allura in Voltron). Otherwise I gravitate towards m/m and f/f romances.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 18:56:27 GMT
I'd be fine if Jaal's romantic confidence was more like Solas'. In that Solas never felt like he was pushing you around or trying to control, but his confidence shined through very clearly (once he stopped going "oh, we probably shouldn't"). There's a reason his kiss scenes were the best in the game. That man was no stuttering virgin. Solas pushed the grounds with grabbing my butt then dumping me right after that if I romance Jaal and he grabs at me and then says it can't be more than a fling, I'm flinging him off a cliff.
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Post by theratpack55 on Feb 6, 2017 18:57:10 GMT
Oooh, I'd really like it if Jaal was the dominant and protective type... I'm kinda tired of awkward, insecure male romance options tbh. I'd be fine with this, but they better not railroad us into being his "sub" like they did with Iron Bull. No thanks, I'd rather take him to task. Honestly, if I feel "weaker" than him in the romance, that'll turn me off it pretty darn fast. I wouldn't mind feeling "weaker" in the physical sense, I admit I like my men big, strong and buff... But that's just my personal preference. Otherwise, I agree, no more BDSM please.
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Post by Artemis on Feb 6, 2017 18:57:39 GMT
Aha. I also attempted his romance but gave up half way through, not my cup of tea it seems. It's too bad people felt that way. If you fully romance him it's a beautiful romance. Just hearing him tell you he loves you as he gentle strokes your face was so precious to me, and having him by my side at the end of Trespasser was the best He is very sweet, very romantic. I do love him. I think it was really, really unfair to shove the BDSM in in there and not make it voluntary. Especially when the options for some player characters (gay males, female dwarfs and qunari) were so limited.
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Post by Rynnju on Feb 6, 2017 18:58:54 GMT
I'd be fine if Jaal's romantic confidence was more like Solas'. In that Solas never felt like he was pushing you around or trying to control, but his confidence shined through very clearly (once he stopped going "oh, we probably shouldn't"). There's a reason his kiss scenes were the best in the game. That man was no stuttering virgin. Solas pushed the grounds with grabbing my butt then dumping me right after that if I romance Jaal and he grabs at me and then says it can't be more than a fling, I'm flinging him off a cliff. Similar confidence to Solas, not a romance that turns out like Solas'! Like someone else in here said, there were a myriad of reasons why that story worked for me with Solas that I highly doubt Jaal would have. Plus I don't want another "betrayer" romance.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 18:59:21 GMT
It's too bad people felt that way. If you fully romance him it's a beautiful romance. Just hearing him tell you he loves you as he gentle strokes your face was so precious to me, and having him by my side at the end of Trespasser was the best He is very sweet, very romantic. I do love him. I think it was really, really unfair to shove the BDSM in in there and not make it voluntary. Especially when the options for some player characters (gay males, female dwarfs and qunari) were so limited. Yeah it is too bad about that. I just tried to ignore that one time. Every other time was pillow talk, and let's face it, the walking in on us after we'd done the deed was the best scene! Cullen was hilarious and Cass was so adorable! Josie just kept staring LOL
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Post by Artemis on Feb 6, 2017 19:00:24 GMT
He is very sweet, very romantic. I do love him. I think it was really, really unfair to shove the BDSM in in there and not make it voluntary. Especially when the options for some player characters (gay males, female dwarfs and qunari) were so limited. Yeah it is too bad about that. I just tried to ignore that one time. Every other time was pillow talk, and let's face it, the walking in on us after we'd done the deed was the best scene! Cullen was hilarious and Cass was so adorable! Josie just kept staring LOL Honestly? I hated that seen. I felt like my romance had turned into a joke. I'm into very serious, very loving romances in my stories. I was really unhappy with that scene, even though it was spoilered for me before the game came out. I knew it was coming, it still annoyed me.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2017 19:01:50 GMT
Yeah it is too bad about that. I just tried to ignore that one time. Every other time was pillow talk, and let's face it, the walking in on us after we'd done the deed was the best scene! Cullen was hilarious and Cass was so adorable! Josie just kept staring LOL Honestly? I hated that seen. I felt like my romance had turned into a joke. I'm into very serious, very loving romances in my stories. I was really unhappy with that scene, even though it was spoilered for me before the game came out. I knew it was coming, it still annoyed me. Ah I love that stuff. After the Solas romance, Bull was the perfect cure for me! My canon though was Cullen. We got married and everything! Speaking of marriage, since that's also possible in MEA, I wonder how it'll happen with our LI's, especially alien ones? I suspect the Angara will be a bit on the old fashioned side.
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Post by louy on Feb 6, 2017 19:03:36 GMT
How ever (getting everything back on topic) leaked or not I still think it would be wise for them to have characters like Ja'al (the new alien everyone wants to bang) and vetra bisexual. honestly i think thats the most logical thing but i have not clue if they will or not, again good old guess work. XD xx
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Post by Rynnju on Feb 6, 2017 19:05:57 GMT
How ever (getting everything back on topic) leaked or not I still think it would be wise for them to have characters like Ja'al (the new alien everyone wants to bang) and vetra bisexual. honestly i think thats the most logical thing but i have not clue if they will or not, again good old guess work. XD xx I'm not sure she'll be bisexual, but I'm one of those who will be very, very shocked if Vetra isn't romanceable considering everyone's Turian obsession and the long wait for a female Turian companion. And I've said before in response to the "then all female companions would be romanceable", how do we know there isn't another female squadmate we'll get? Female Kett, anyone? That'd be friggin awesome!
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Post by louy on Feb 6, 2017 19:07:21 GMT
Honestly? I hated that seen. I felt like my romance had turned into a joke. I'm into very serious, very loving romances in my stories. I was really unhappy with that scene, even though it was spoilered for me before the game came out. I knew it was coming, it still annoyed me. Ah I love that stuff. After the Solas romance, Bull was the perfect cure for me! My canon though was Cullen. We got married and everything! Speaking of marriage, since that's also possible in MEA, I wonder how it'll happen with our LI's, especially alien ones? I suspect the Angara will be a bit on the old fashioned side. Well im hoping the 'marriage/courtship' will be totally different to anything we have ever seen before, Like how turians have head bumps, angarans could brush their faces on things/people like big cats do when they are claiming something as their own. And the 'marriage' side could be something like his people finding out and throwing a party. xx
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