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Post by witchcocktor on Feb 23, 2017 23:24:13 GMT
Wow, everyone. Tons of new information. Holy crap! I'm going to wade through everything. I did want to share a quick update that might help calm some nerves here a bit. My "inside source" was kind enough to give me more information earlier since she was able to see additional romance scenes recently. I won't share all of it in the thread because I've been attacked recently in this thread so I'd rather not set myself up for more of that. I'm not here for drama. So, like before they added this new section, if you want any additional information, just PM me. The stuff that I WILL post here (in spoiler tags, even though it's not necessary) is related to m/m content and I feel bad for my gay brothers on this one, so I want to help ease a little bit of the sting. In addition to the dark skinned guy with a dark high and tight haircut and stubble that my friend saw earlier, there is a second human male LI. He is a paler skinned red headed guy with an Alistair like haircut and stubble. This scene was also a fade-to-black, which is a bummer, but it DOES mean that there will be multiple options for gay Scott.
I don't know who the guys are. I don't have names for them. But I say for sure that there are two options. So hopefully this helps take the edge off. We will still get a choice in some way, which is nice to hear. I won't bother doing any speculation because apparently that's too confusing for some people, so just take this as a leak and speculate away on your own! Thanks for the additional info! But eh, this just scares me more. It seems us gay alien lovers will be walking with our nuts full, not getting to unload
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Post by Dirk on Feb 23, 2017 23:26:57 GMT
Wow, everyone. Tons of new information. Holy crap! I'm going to wade through everything. I did want to share a quick update that might help calm some nerves here a bit. My "inside source" was kind enough to give me more information earlier since she was able to see additional romance scenes recently. I won't share all of it in the thread because I've been attacked recently in this thread so I'd rather not set myself up for more of that. I'm not here for drama. So, like before they added this new section, if you want any additional information, just PM me. The stuff that I WILL post here (in spoiler tags, even though it's not necessary) is related to m/m content and I feel bad for my gay brothers on this one, so I want to help ease a little bit of the sting. In addition to the dark skinned guy with a dark high and tight haircut and stubble that my friend saw earlier, there is a second human male LI. He is a paler skinned red headed guy with an Alistair like haircut and stubble. This scene was also a fade-to-black, which is a bummer, but it DOES mean that there will be multiple options for gay Scott.
I don't know who the guys are. I don't have names for them. But I say for sure that there are two options. So hopefully this helps take the edge off. We will still get a choice in some way, which is nice to hear. I won't bother doing any speculation because apparently that's too confusing for some people, so just take this as a leak and speculate away on your own! I appreciate this. Some good leak to counteract some bad leak at least. I wonder if This new guy is Gil.
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Post by amleth on Feb 23, 2017 23:28:52 GMT
Wait so you're the one calling me a shithead and a spiteful prick and I'm the one shouting unnecessary quips when all I've said is to wait for more info? And that dating isn't the most important aspect of the game? Lol, don't act a victim when you damn well know nothing you said was anything but condescending and shows total lack of empathy towards what other people feel and their frustration. You've made a point, I understand it and I somewhat agree, it is true that we should wait for more info, but this thread is for discussing spoilers and leaks about romance options. Those who visit this thread, possibly are very eager to know about who can date who, and it's their freedom to do so and be invested in the romances. Coming here, taking a huge shit on everyone feeling frustrated by leaks, even if wrong, is just pitiful and maybe next time, you could discuss the current topic with more tact and post something that's more constructive, so that people don't mistake your innocent '' you should wait for more info '' posts as something they aren't. What exactly is there to be frustrated about?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 23:29:25 GMT
BioFan @biofanofficial This may likely change today/tomorrow, but here's the current updated version of the #MEAndromeda romance chart! #PrettyGoodBanging #BioWare
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Post by jjdxb on Feb 23, 2017 23:30:00 GMT
Thanks for the info.
I have to say, while both being non-squaddies doesn't phase me, both being fade to black does irk me.
But I suppose the key word is when does it fade to black?
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Post by uirebhiril on Feb 23, 2017 23:34:41 GMT
BioFan @biofanofficial This may likely change today/tomorrow, but here's the current updated version of the #MEAndromeda romance chart! #PrettyGoodBanging #BioWare That's starting to look a little unevenly stacked for "...we want to let people figure out in game who can be romanced..."
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Post by witchcocktor on Feb 23, 2017 23:36:35 GMT
Lol, don't act a victim when you damn well know nothing you said was anything but condescending and shows total lack of empathy towards what other people feel and their frustration. You've made a point, I understand it and I somewhat agree, it is true that we should wait for more info, but this thread is for discussing spoilers and leaks about romance options. Those who visit this thread, possibly are very eager to know about who can date who, and it's their freedom to do so and be invested in the romances. Coming here, taking a huge shit on everyone feeling frustrated by leaks, even if wrong, is just pitiful and maybe next time, you could discuss the current topic with more tact and post something that's more constructive, so that people don't mistake your innocent '' you should wait for more info '' posts as something they aren't. What exactly is there to be frustrated about? Well, you.
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Post by Artemis on Feb 23, 2017 23:37:22 GMT
That is... a terrible chart. Literally only one of those romances is confirmed, so far as I know (Cora for Scott).
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Post by amleth on Feb 23, 2017 23:40:25 GMT
What exactly is there to be frustrated about? Well, you. Rude
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Post by Petroshenko on Feb 23, 2017 23:42:10 GMT
Interesting
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 23:43:03 GMT
That is... a terrible chart. Literally only one of those romances is confirmed, so far as I know (Cora for Scott). Feel free to tell BioFan that lol
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Feb 23, 2017 23:48:05 GMT
Biofan always seems so hopeful, so optimistic. He just wants to romance a hunky dude in a gold Nomad, and I can respect that. I hope he gets options he's satisfied with.
Hell, maybe a miracle will happen, and we'll even get three m/m options? I don't know. I think I'm still in denial of what my friend told me.
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Post by witchcocktor on Feb 23, 2017 23:52:14 GMT
I'm honestly going to be surprised if the only male options for a male Ryder are humans. Maybe there hasn't been a big enough outcry from the gay community for more aliens to consensually fondle? That's my experience anyway, whether it's DA or ME, most gay/bi men seem to be more interested in humans. Such a shame... hopefully I do get a male alien to romance ughhh!
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Post by Petroshenko on Feb 24, 2017 0:00:21 GMT
Hell, maybe a miracle will happen, and we'll even get three m/m options? Now u know that one DEFINITELY ain't happening sis
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Post by Dirk on Feb 24, 2017 0:03:19 GMT
Biofan always seems so hopeful, so optimistic. He just wants to romance a hunky dude in a gold Nomad, and I can respect that. I hope he gets options he's satisfied with. Hell, maybe a miracle will happen, and we'll even get three m/m options? I don't know. I think I'm still in denial of what my friend told me. They did claim that there are more romances than any other ME games. There were 2 m/m romances in ME3, so it makes sense to have 3 m/m this time, right? I am full on the first stage of grief right now lol.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 0:04:23 GMT
I'm honestly going to be surprised if the only male options for a male Ryder are humans. Maybe there hasn't been a big enough outcry from the gay community for more aliens to consensually fondle? That's my experience anyway, whether it's DA or ME, most gay/bi men seem to be more interested in humans. Such a shame... hopefully I do get a male alien to romance ughhh! I'm honestly mostly concerned about Liam, but I do hope everyone has at least one alien option if they don't want humans.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Feb 24, 2017 0:06:59 GMT
Hell, maybe a miracle will happen, and we'll even get three m/m options? Now u know that one DEFINITELY ain't happening sis I know, I know. I'm in such complete denial right now. I just didn't want this part of the leak to be true... God, if we're taking it this bad, can you imagine the reaction from tumblr? -shudders-
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Post by witchcocktor on Feb 24, 2017 0:10:22 GMT
I'm honestly going to be surprised if the only male options for a male Ryder are humans. Maybe there hasn't been a big enough outcry from the gay community for more aliens to consensually fondle? That's my experience anyway, whether it's DA or ME, most gay/bi men seem to be more interested in humans. Such a shame... hopefully I do get a male alien to romance ughhh! I'm honestly mostly concerned about Liam, but I do hope everyone has at least one alien option if they don't want humans. I think you're concern is valid, sadly... but I'm not too confident about a gay male alien either.
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Post by witchcocktor on Feb 24, 2017 0:11:51 GMT
Now u know that one DEFINITELY ain't happening sis I know, I know. I'm in such complete denial right now. I just didn't want this part of the leak to be true... God, if we're taking it this bad, can you imagine the reaction from tumblr? -shudders- So we basically know our two gay options, lol. Short haired dark guy, short haired pale guy. Both NPCs. Oh boy.
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Post by Artemis on Feb 24, 2017 0:12:19 GMT
That is... a terrible chart. Literally only one of those romances is confirmed, so far as I know (Cora for Scott). Feel free to tell BioFan that lol Actually I can't because he blocked me on Twitter lol A holdover from some BSN-dramz a few years back.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 24, 2017 0:13:27 GMT
I read in one article that other than Ryder the Tempest has ten people aboard: six squadmates and four crewmembers. As such, I think we can make a pretty accurate list from the various leaks, articles, and Bioware's own words.
Cora: Men only Drack: ??? Gil: Men only Jaal: Women, maybe Men Kallo: ??? Lexi: ??? Liam: Women only PeeBee: Men and Women Suvi: Women only Vetra: Men and Women
That leaves the spread of options aboard the Tempest as: Straight Men: 3 Gay Men: 1, maybe 2 Straight Women: 2 Gay Women: 3
Not accounting for Drack, Lexi, or Kallo since their romance status is still unknown.
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Post by zaefkol on Feb 24, 2017 0:20:14 GMT
Usually the squad members have more content and in my opinion it's a little unfair that usually (not always) m/m romances are the ones that have less content than the others. They have more content in their capacity as squadmates, but not in their capacity as romance options. That distinction is why I'm not really concerned about it. Sure, it'd be nice to take them out on missions, but how much of their in-field content is at all relevant to their romance? Some oblique (and occasionally not very subtle) references to the relationship and that's it. Like I said, I know why it's important for many players that squaddies be romance options, but I don't see things from that perspective. I liked being able to romance Kaidan in ME:3. In fact, that was 90% of the reason I got into ME in the first place, but it wouldn't have made a difference to me whether he was a full squaddie or just someone who happened to be on board. I mean, I rarely took him out on missions. I didn't think it was necessary for me to RP the relationship as being important to Shepard. In fact, that's partly the reason I didn't take him out that often. Romance for me is an extra cherry on top of a character. My preferred LI rarely tops the the list of my favourite characters. All power to you guys though if that's what you want, and I do hope you all get that. But the content that they have as squadmates and the content that they have as romance options are not actually so distinct as your post implies.
I don't know about other people, but when I'm romancing a character in a game, the totality of that romance is more than the collection of flirts and romantic dialogue scenes. The romance is informed by and developed through every single interaction that the player has with the character they romance.
So sure, a non-squadmate LI may have just as much content specifically about their romance as a squadmate LI, but they invariably have less overall content. And the overall amount of content that a LI has invariably impacts the way that romance feels to the player. The more overall content, the greater the chance for a deeper connection to the character.
On top of that, you can never underestimate the impact that taking your LI with you through every step of the game can have to further develop that connection. You not doing so with Kaidan does not mean that other players feel the same.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 0:20:40 GMT
I'm honestly going to be surprised if the only male options for a male Ryder are humans. Maybe there hasn't been a big enough outcry from the gay community for more aliens to consensually fondle? That's my experience anyway, whether it's DA or ME, most gay/bi men seem to be more interested in humans. Such a shame... hopefully I do get a male alien to romance ughhh! Agreed! I was really hoping for a quarian guy. But I'm usually told by other gay gamers that they just want hunky human guys. C'est la vie!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 0:21:29 GMT
This is the kind of crap that's annoying m/m fans. They respond to literally everything other than questions about m/m squad mates. wtf
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Post by naychan on Feb 24, 2017 0:21:37 GMT
What do we actually learn about him today? Sorry I am lost in all these news and leaks. But I do hope I can romance him. I really like male Hawke's voice. That we meet him on Kadara, where we help him with something. Considering he has his own writer, he's gotta at least be a character we interact with frequently, right? It doesn't matter, he have human voice. Still no alien gay.
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