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Post by Sole Survivor on Feb 24, 2017 17:37:16 GMT
They have just Cora, the other ones are bisexual. Why women are going to get exclusive characters like Liam and Jaal, plus 50 lesbian romances, but men only can choose 1 straight women and other women that you risk they leave you for another girl? Hey, Soul Survivor, don't look now, but Piper, Cait, Curie and Magnolia were all bi. 😇 And all men are bi too, that means my character is not going ot have less content than female characters, even though is unfair women have 6 straight romances while men have just 3, and it is already hard to roleplay a gay character in Fallout 4.
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Post by Natashina on Feb 24, 2017 17:37:41 GMT
They have just Cora, the other ones are bisexual. Why women are going to get exclusive characters like Liam and Jaal, plus 50 lesbian romances, but men only can choose 1 straight women and other women that you risk they leave you for another girl? Jesus Christ. Even ignoring how much of this is baseless speculation and outright exaggeration (fifty lesbian romances lmfao), believing that a bisexual LI is going to drop you for the other gender reeks of insecurity and ignorance. That's not how sexuality works. The only LI in all these games who dumps you for no reason is Jacob, and that's 'cause he's a tool. Yeah, BioWare has never done that move, nor do I think they ever will. I'd be the first to call "foul" if they did that. That is the last depiction bisexuality I'd ever want to see. It plays into some awful stereotypes and while BW (the ME team in particular) have had their missteps, they've never been so short-sighted as to put that into their games. I've been a little hard on BW in the past for their mistakes in depicting my sexuality. I could have seen them doing that, say, back when ME1 was being developed. Not about a decade later.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Feb 24, 2017 17:38:18 GMT
I've been quite busy with work and studying the last day so I haven't really caught up with all the new info. Is there any information on whether or not Cora is available for female Ryder? I'm going to be so disappointed if she isn't as females have never had a female human sqaudmate as a love interest. Even gay males were able to have a male squad mate LI. As much as I love my aliens, humans are still humans and I want them haha. According to my friend's leak, which you should take with a grain of salt and heavy skepticism, there are no bi/gay male squadmate romances and Cora is not an option for FemRyder. Peebee and Vetra are bi, according to his source, however.
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Post by Sole Survivor on Feb 24, 2017 17:38:20 GMT
I've been quite busy with work and studying the last day so I haven't really caught up with all the new info. Is there any information on whether or not Cora is available for female Ryder? I'm going to be so disappointed if she isn't as females have never had a female human sqaudmate as a love interest. Even gay males were able to have a male squad mate LI. As much as I love my aliens, humans are still humans and I want them haha. Look at what you did now! you made her cry! Asari looks just human, at least you had a lesbian romance since ME1 and your shepard didn't have to wait 3 years for Kaidan to turn gay or to push Cortez.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 24, 2017 17:38:47 GMT
Part of me even wonders if Dr Lexi will be an option at all. It's hard to believe that there will be a fourth f/f option with substantial content, so that would just leave her solely as a m/f option, but that doesn't make much sense to me either. If there's another female option for guys, it seems more likely that it would be a human woman. Maybe an Angaran woman, but human seems more likely. Then again, she's voiced by Natalie freaking Dormer, for goodness sake. And they're aware of how upset people were when they couldn't romance Samara. I can see her being a fourth f/f option and m/f option among the squad/crew if they go the nonsexual route with her since then it is a new kind of option for players.
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Post by Panda on Feb 24, 2017 17:39:27 GMT
So troll or serious?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 17:39:51 GMT
I dunno, I guess I don't see the problem. I don't care about numbers, just characters.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Feb 24, 2017 17:40:36 GMT
Part of me even wonders if Dr Lexi will be an option at all. It's hard to believe that there will be a fourth f/f option with substantial content, so that would just leave her solely as a m/f option, but that doesn't make much sense to me either. If there's another female option for guys, it seems more likely that it would be a human woman. Maybe an Angaran woman, but human seems more likely. Then again, she's voiced by Natalie freaking Dormer, for goodness sake. And they're aware of how upset people were when they couldn't romance Samara. I can see her being a fourth f/f option and m/f option among the squad/crew if they go the nonsexual route with her since then it is a new kind of option for players. If that occurs, I am not looking forward to the backlash from a certain corner of the straight male playerbase.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 24, 2017 17:41:52 GMT
I can see her being a fourth f/f option and m/f option among the squad/crew if they go the nonsexual route with her since then it is a new kind of option for players. If that occurs, I am not looking forward to the backlash from a certain corner of the straight male playerbase. They have no objectively good footing for any backlash. They have three squadmate romances, two other aliens romances, and one other asari romance that will be sexual. And tht's just among the Tempest people. All the bases are covered.
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Post by naytnavare on Feb 24, 2017 17:43:46 GMT
Kate Bishop avatar. Alien fetish. ... can we be friends? 😍 Person who recognizes Kate Bishop and approves of my alien fetish? Delighted. My kingdom for a Kate/Chavez Netflix show. Or romance. Or both.
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Post by Sole Survivor on Feb 24, 2017 17:45:07 GMT
I dunno, I guess I don't see the problem. I don't care about numbers, just characters. Numbers means you have more options. They can make Gil the best romance of Mass Effect Andromeda, with the most content in the base game and in DLCs, just like they did with Cullen, but what if you don't like Gil? What if his character is boring? You lose the gay romance because they couldn't make quality and quantity work? Same as they did with Dragon Age Inquisition, straight men had either Cassandra or Josephine, do you prefer a short romance with a sweet princess and the ending is living with her parents, plus no sex scene and no content in Trespasser, or do you prefer a manly warrior with short hair, scars, that acts like a brat asking you to do everything for the relationship and that adds almost no special content to the game, plus shitty ending.
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Post by SaraRyder on Feb 24, 2017 17:45:25 GMT
I've been quite busy with work and studying the last day so I haven't really caught up with all the new info. Is there any information on whether or not Cora is available for female Ryder? I'm going to be so disappointed if she isn't as females have never had a female human sqaudmate as a love interest. Even gay males were able to have a male squad mate LI. As much as I love my aliens, humans are still humans and I want them haha. Look at what you did now! you made her cry! Asari looks just human, at least you had a lesbian romance since ME1 and your shepard didn't have to wait 3 years for Kaidan to turn gay or to push Cortez. Oh don't get me wrong I loved Liara and she was my canon Romance I just wanted a human female squamate for once. I'm tired of being rejected first by Ashley, then Miranda, then Jack and I was hoping for a change in Andromeda.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Feb 24, 2017 17:45:30 GMT
If that occurs, I am not looking forward to the backlash from a certain corner of the straight male playerbase. They have no objectively good footing for any backlash. They have three squadmate romances, two other aliens romances, and one other asari romance that will be sexual. And tht's just among the Tempest people. All the bases are covered. Considering they complain about lesbian options, that corner of fandom seems to complain without basis often. I go back and forth from the idea of whether Dr Lexi would be a romance option at all. Even Bioware would have to look at that and go, "hmm, straight men and lesbians both have 4 options each on the Tempest. That seems really, really uneven." Then again, they did say they're not aiming to make it even in that article about their handling of sexuality in ME:A.
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Post by lilyenachaos on Feb 24, 2017 17:45:33 GMT
So a straight man can't romance a bisexual female? I'm confused. A bisexual female, means + 1 romance for Straight male + 1 romance for Lesbian female So, that would mean +3 romances for FemRyder plus her straight and specifically lesbians ones While men get +1 for Cora (That is not standard beauty) and +1 for Gil (And we know how Mass Effect treat M/M) So, if I am good at maths, that would mean, similar to Dragon age inquisition, 5 romances for MaleRyder, and 99999999 romances for FemRyder, plus marriage and romancing the antagonist, I wouldn't be surprise if they give the kett to women too. I'm sorry. You're not good at the maths. You are adding 2+2 and getting banana. Banana is not the answer.
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Post by naytnavare on Feb 24, 2017 17:46:32 GMT
If that occurs, I am not looking forward to the backlash from a certain corner of the straight male playerbase. They have no objectively good footing for any backlash. They have three squadmate romances, two other aliens romances, and one other asari romance that will be sexual. And tht's just among the Tempest people. All the bases are covered. If all that's true, agreed. If a hetero male can romance PeeBee, Vetra and Cora as options, I will accept lamentations of 'I liked Lexi, wish she was an LI,' but calling it unfair would be preposterous. In short, 'I wish' is fine, calling foul would not be. Personal opinion.
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Post by Panda on Feb 24, 2017 17:47:56 GMT
Didn't they hype the game up saying it had more romances than previous ME games? Or was it previous Bioware games, hmm. Found quote: “By my count, if you include squad, crew, and light romances, we have more romances than we've ever had before," , but it could mean either one I guess. Maybe ME then? If lighter romances and flings are counted in ME3 also it had 12 + 3 (citadel). Since our squad seems to only have 5 LIs there is supposed to be at least 8 romances outside of the squad. That would be minimum amount. Some of that would be crew romances, soem probably as big or almost as big as squadmate romances (especially if some orientation is stranded to crew LIs). Kallo, Reyes, Dr.Lexi and I think there was another human guy are speculated as crew romances so that's 4. Would mean that 4 outside of it, likely in planets, I think BW have been talking about one romance that was on some planet. So there still should be quite many LIs to go. If flings and one-night-stands can be counted as such really. The thing is, we don't know whether they're counting every romance from the trilogy. My friend got the impression they're not counting all of them in the "more than we had previously" statement. So we can count on more than 6, yes, but I don't think we can count on more than 12. Sure the statement could be just exaggeration, but he's math should be really off if he only thought of main romances or something. And what's up comparing how many main romances they had to one-night stands, you could sleep with three nugs in the DAO, but I'm sure those aren't comparable to actual LIs. Sigh, but I guess it could be true that he only thought of options that give paramount achievement. That would mean 10 in ME3 still. If he meant less than that.. he should know the game better or go back to school ^^;
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Post by Natashina on Feb 24, 2017 17:47:57 GMT
gaycaravaggio Try to do what I do these days: Laugh at them. I know that's easier said than done. I've been on BioWare-related forums for 5 years now. Seriously, think about it. They are running with the idea that one less LI that (usually) contains scenes of heavily-edited video game sex is a part of some sort of greater agenda by the company. I've been hearing this for a long time and for me, the humor grows as the gaming culture continues to evolve. I'm not dismissing how you feel, just giving you some perspective. The mods will make sure that there is only one thread on the subject if/when the time comes. We want people to voice their opinions, but not with 10 different new threads on the same point.
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Post by vertigomez on Feb 24, 2017 17:49:14 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 17:50:11 GMT
If straight men get Peebee, Vetra and Cora I'd wipe my hands and call it a day.
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Post by Natashina on Feb 24, 2017 17:51:51 GMT
If straight men get Peebee, Vetra and Cora I'd wipe my hands and call it a day. Keep Peebee for all I care, but I'd like Vetra to be available to us bisexual gals as well. No, I don't hate the Asari. They just aren't my favorite race, whereas the Turians are #2.
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Post by Sole Survivor on Feb 24, 2017 17:52:31 GMT
If straight men get Peebee, Vetra and Cora I'd wipe my hands and call it a day. If lesbian women do it too I'd start a revolution!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 17:53:52 GMT
(scroll, scroll, scroll...) still no actual confirmations, right? Was not that supposed to come in today with the previews of the game or something like that?
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Post by Sole Survivor on Feb 24, 2017 17:54:39 GMT
(scroll, scroll, scroll...) still no actual confirmations, right? Was not that supposed to come in today with the previews of the game or something like that? Biofan said he is gathering all the information together, he seem to have a source saying that Jaal is only for human female.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Feb 24, 2017 17:55:43 GMT
Part of me really thinks they can't be so stupid so as to get Natalie Dormer and not make her a romance option. I mean they knew what they paying for, surely.
Then again, part of me remembers others times I've said "I'm sure BioWare isn't dumb enough to do x" and sure enough x was right there.
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