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Post by fialka on Jan 30, 2017 5:51:38 GMT
The debates between fanboys are the main reason to go to the character forums. Didn't the Miranda fanboys end up getting the character forum closed for a few years on the old BSN? But off the topic of debates here, scrolling through I see a lot of talk about the Salarian pilot perhaps being an option of sorts. I didn't think Salarians entered romantic relationships? They only live for ~30 years and their processes are on overdrive, if Kallo was to fall in love with Ryder, he'd be out of love by morning, they just aren't wired for that sort of thing. All they care about is getting a good breeding contract so that their next generation is smarter than they are. Though I highly doubt we'll have a salarian romance, we do see salarians in relationships with asari - we even see a salrian father with an asari daughter. So unless you believe in asari mind tricks like that bachelor's party indicates (I actually sort of want to because it's cool) it wouldn't necessarily be out of the question for a salarian to find a female human, at least, appealing on some level.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 5:54:01 GMT
The debates between fanboys are the main reason to go to the character forums. Didn't the Miranda fanboys end up getting the character forum closed for a few years on the old BSN? But off the topic of debates here, scrolling through I see a lot of talk about the Salarian pilot perhaps being an option of sorts. I didn't think Salarians entered romantic relationships? They only live for ~30 years and their processes are on overdrive, if Kallo was to fall in love with Ryder, he'd be out of love by morning, they just aren't wired for that sort of thing. All they care about is getting a good breeding contract so that their next generation is smarter than they are. Though I highly doubt we'll have a salarian romance, we do see salarians in relationships with asari - we even see a salrian father with an asari daughter. So unless you believe in asari mind tricks like that bachelor's party indicates (I actually sort of want to because it's cool) it wouldn't necessarily be out of the question for a salarian to find a female human, at least, appealing on some level. Haha the bachelor party was the best! Also a human female had feelings for a Salarian in ME3.
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Post by Two Faces on Jan 30, 2017 5:57:36 GMT
The debates between fanboys are the main reason to go to the character forums. Didn't the Miranda fanboys end up getting the character forum closed for a few years on the old BSN? But off the topic of debates here, scrolling through I see a lot of talk about the Salarian pilot perhaps being an option of sorts. I didn't think Salarians entered romantic relationships? They only live for ~30 years and their processes are on overdrive, if Kallo was to fall in love with Ryder, he'd be out of love by morning, they just aren't wired for that sort of thing. All they care about is getting a good breeding contract so that their next generation is smarter than they are. Though I highly doubt we'll have a salarian romance, we do see salarians in relationships with asari - we even see a salrian father with an asari daughter. So unless you believe in asari mind tricks like that bachelor's party indicates (I actually sort of want to because it's cool) it wouldn't necessarily be out of the question for a salarian to find a female human, at least, appealing on some level. If a Turian can find humans attractive then of course a salarian can, female Turians are nothing like female humans, in fact doesn't a Turian in one of the games says all humans look alike to them? That was one of the things that bothered me about Garrus romance, why does he feel attracted to female humans? female turians don't have tits, neither are so short, neither have lips, nose, etc, if he feels attracted to humans he should feel attracted to a male shepard as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 6:01:36 GMT
Apparently Shepard was the exception for Garrus. He didn't see a human, he saw someone he admired and cared deeply for and wanted to try that with her. If he could nearly die from embarrassment trying to woo her, he would have died trying to woo another male I think haha but seriously Vetra by rights should be a Scott romance imo.
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Post by PhatePhoenix on Jan 30, 2017 6:15:22 GMT
The debates between fanboys are the main reason to go to the character forums. Didn't the Miranda fanboys end up getting the character forum closed for a few years on the old BSN? But off the topic of debates here, scrolling through I see a lot of talk about the Salarian pilot perhaps being an option of sorts. I didn't think Salarians entered romantic relationships? They only live for ~30 years and their processes are on overdrive, if Kallo was to fall in love with Ryder, he'd be out of love by morning, they just aren't wired for that sort of thing. All they care about is getting a good breeding contract so that their next generation is smarter than they are. There has been definitely one romantic relationship between a Salarian and an Asari ( ME2, the Salarian is talking with his step-daughter about getting something to be remembered by). Of course, there's been some in-game stuff that implies that Asari send out "YOU WANT ME" vibes to anything around them, which is creepy fyi. That being said, until it's said specifically by a Salarian in-game, I will hold out hope for my dollop of Strawberry Jello! [ PAUSES] Or I suppose someone could, like, tweet a dev. Ask if Salarians feel romantic attraction to non-Asari species. Someone braver. And less awkward.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 11:50:23 GMT
So now that I think about it, what was up with that asari and her Salarian father? She was a fully grown asari but salarians only live about 30 years. So how does that work? Her father should have been long dead by the time she was grown, no? you figure that even if he mated with her mother as soon as he was able to and was at the end of his life, she couldn't really be more than 25 years old. She should have been a child, right? Liara was a little over 100 and was just considered an adult.
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 30, 2017 11:55:36 GMT
So now that I think about it, what was up with that asari and her Salarian father? She was a fully grown asari but salarians only live about 30 years. So how does that work? Her father should have been long dead by the time she was grown, no? you figure that even if he mated with her mother as soon as he was able to and was at the end of his life, she couldn't really be more than 25 years old. She should have been a child, right? Liara was a little over 100 and was just considered an adult. Maybe he was her stepfather? Otherwise it wouldn't work.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 11:59:01 GMT
The debates between fanboys are the main reason to go to the character forums. Didn't the Miranda fanboys end up getting the character forum closed for a few years on the old BSN? But off the topic of debates here, scrolling through I see a lot of talk about the Salarian pilot perhaps being an option of sorts. I didn't think Salarians entered romantic relationships? They only live for ~30 years and their processes are on overdrive, if Kallo was to fall in love with Ryder, he'd be out of love by morning, they just aren't wired for that sort of thing. All they care about is getting a good breeding contract so that their next generation is smarter than they are. [PAUSES] Or I suppose someone could, like, tweet a dev. Ask if Salarians feel romantic attraction to non-Asari species. Someone braver. And less awkward.The question can always be answered with "yes", because even if the species on average isn't into humans, there are always individual characters that are outside the norm. There are, after all, human individuals who are attracted to animals, too. There are also different animal species, which sometimes have sex with each other and give birth to hybrids. It is rather unlikely that the salarian species loves human appearance by nature. Unlike Asaris, they can not reproduce with any other species, so humans don't appear to be beneficial to them. But there is not only the Salarian as a species, that is probably not into humans, but each salarian is also an individual, and between individuals there are genetic and behavioral deviations. That's why I believe that there will always be individuals who differ from the norm and are into humans (or other species). Even if the majority of Salarians don't enter any relationships at all, this should be the case. You can never refer to anyone, even if the majority shows/or don't show a certain behaviour.
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 30, 2017 12:32:44 GMT
So now that I think about it, what was up with that asari and her Salarian father? She was a fully grown asari but salarians only live about 30 years. So how does that work? Her father should have been long dead by the time she was grown, no? you figure that even if he mated with her mother as soon as he was able to and was at the end of his life, she couldn't really be more than 25 years old. She should have been a child, right? Liara was a little over 100 and was just considered an adult. Maybe he was her stepfather? Otherwise it wouldn't work. I guess it depends on what age Salarians/Asari reach physical maturity. As far as I'm aware we don't know exactly with either. It's possible that Asari are mostly fully grown physically at 20-25, but aren't considered to be mentally adults until much older. Perhaps she was supposed to be the Asari equivalent of a teenager, but they didn't want to create a new model.
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Post by PhatePhoenix on Jan 30, 2017 12:58:32 GMT
So now that I think about it, what was up with that asari and her Salarian father? She was a fully grown asari but salarians only live about 30 years. So how does that work? Her father should have been long dead by the time she was grown, no? you figure that even if he mated with her mother as soon as he was able to and was at the end of his life, she couldn't really be more than 25 years old. She should have been a child, right? Liara was a little over 100 and was just considered an adult. Yeah, the Asari was the Salarian's step-daughter. He mentionst that the Asari "barely remembers her real father" during their conversation, and the Asari replies that of course she did, and that this was why she and he were on the trip together, to make memories.
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Post by Artemis on Jan 30, 2017 20:06:15 GMT
Though I highly doubt we'll have a salarian romance, we do see salarians in relationships with asari - we even see a salrian father with an asari daughter. So unless you believe in asari mind tricks like that bachelor's party indicates (I actually sort of want to because it's cool) it wouldn't necessarily be out of the question for a salarian to find a female human, at least, appealing on some level. Haha the bachelor party was the best! Also a human female had feelings for a Salarian in ME3. God that was so adorable. It gets me every time... I ALWAYS have to listen to the whole conversation.
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Post by Artemis on Jan 30, 2017 20:07:46 GMT
[...] That was one of the things that bothered me about Garrus romance, why does he feel attracted to female humans? female turians don't have tits, neither are so short, neither have lips, nose, etc, if he feels attracted to humans he should feel attracted to a male shepard as well. Think of it like this: how many straight male gamers found Garrus "attractive"? None, assuming they're straight. But many straight/bi females found Garrus attractive, and not just his voice. /shrug Just how sexuality works, I guess.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 20:17:59 GMT
[...] That was one of the things that bothered me about Garrus romance, why does he feel attracted to female humans? female turians don't have tits, neither are so short, neither have lips, nose, etc, if he feels attracted to humans he should feel attracted to a male shepard as well. Think of it like this: how many straight male gamers found Garrus "attractive"? None, assuming they're straight. But many straight/bi females found Garrus attractive, and not just his voice. /shrug Just how sexuality works, I guess. I am gonna regret this, but actually Garrus' preferences are fairly well documented. he is certainly not attracted to a masculine-like races as he is adamant that he is very much NOT attracted to Eve. He is recounting an experience of being sexually attracted to his female sparring partner among the Turians, and on Normandy, he picks either a presumably fairly feminine Shepard, or Tali that has an exaggerated female form. So, what he is after in his girls is camaraderie, and a nice form, rather than facial features.
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Post by Artemis on Jan 30, 2017 20:37:14 GMT
Think of it like this: how many straight male gamers found Garrus "attractive"? None, assuming they're straight. But many straight/bi females found Garrus attractive, and not just his voice. /shrug Just how sexuality works, I guess. I am gonna regret this, but actually Garrus' preferences are fairly well documented. he is certainly not attracted to a masculine-like races as he is adamant that he is very much NOT attracted to Eve. He is recounting an experience of being sexually attracted to his female sparring partner among the Turians, and on Normandy, he picks either a presumably fairly feminine Shepard, or Tali that has an exaggerated female form. So, what he is after in his girls is camaraderie, and a nice form, rather than facial features. He likes girls lol Yeah that's what I'm saying. He's a, well, straight turian dude. I'm sure most straight male gamers aren't phsyically attracted to Eve. Femininity may have something to do with it, but also the fact that she resembles a humongous amphibious beast lol love for my girl Eve but she's very very non-humanoid.
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Post by turianlannister on Jan 31, 2017 3:54:38 GMT
If I recall Thane had m/m dialouge that was cut and Cullen too (when romancing Dorian), so anything can change/happen before the official release. Feedback might help so that's why they wont confirm anything but tease to see how we react. Seems strange with Cullen since they stated he was straight as shown in the mage origin in DAO. Mass Effect in general has tons of cut content about straight LI with same gender Shep, but I think they're not related to their intentions of making them bi. The only I'm sure was intended to be bi from the start of her romance arc was Tali, but her VA refused because she wasn't comfortable with it, I think. That rumour about Tali's VA being uncomfortable is just a rumour, people keep bringing it up but no one has produced any proof or source for this rumour. Before ME3 came out it was rumoured that MShep didn't have male romance options because Mark Meer was homophobic, well he's said that MShep/Kaidan was his favourite romance so I think that rumour can be quashed.
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Post by turianlannister on Jan 31, 2017 3:58:37 GMT
I really hope Reyes, since I'm all but convinced he's the gay LI, has his own face model. That may be too much to ask, but still. The presets in the character creator have face models as well not just default MRyder and FRyder, hopefully that also means Reyes has a face model
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Post by turianlannister on Jan 31, 2017 4:29:58 GMT
Seems strange with Cullen since they stated he was straight as shown in the mage origin in DAO. Mass Effect in general has tons of cut content about straight LI with same gender Shep, but I think they're not related to their intentions of making them bi. The only I'm sure was intended to be bi from the start of her romance arc was Tali, but her VA refused because she wasn't comfortable with it, I think.Wait, really? Don't want to jump the gun in case it's not true, but what the hell? It's called freaking voice acting for a reason! You'd probably be okay with voicing a horrible person, but same-sex content? Nope, that crosses the line, it does! And you can bet that if it was a gay actor refusing to do a straight scene because it "made them uncomfortable" they wouldn't be able to get away with it nearly as easily. This kind of thing genuinely pisses me off. It's an unconfirmed rumour that people keep spreading.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 7:01:52 GMT
Sincerely hope Vetra isn't a lesbian though I'll probably romance her anyway if she is. I will romance her even if she is totally unromanceable... somehow...
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Post by projectpatdc on Jan 31, 2017 7:12:33 GMT
I just hope one of the romances involves a broad named Yennifer on top of a unicorn that you purchase from the Nexus.
And technically boobs and butt aren't nudity unless there's some nip showing. Unless that's the case, it's equal amounts of nudity. Even if nip is showing, most feminists would not consider it nudity anyways so again...even
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 7:32:15 GMT
I just hope one of the romances involves a broad named Yennifer on top of a unicorn that you purchase from the Nexus. And technically boobs and butt aren't nudity unless there's some nip showing. Unless that's the case, it's equal amounts of nudity. Even if nip is showing, most feminists would not consider it nudity anyways so again...even Funniest sex scene in a game (if you don't count drunk Shani)! DAI had nipples so I expect the same with MEA. I would say the nudity in MEA will be the same as DAI. What makes the scenes "hotter" as devs teased is probably the realism of them. The kiss itself in the trailer was very well done and improved since DAI. Other things more sexual might be more obvious but also properly censored for the sake of being able to sell the game in other countries. Witcher had detailed sex scenes, including realistic moans and such, but the recycled animations started to make it funny imo.
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Post by London on Jan 31, 2017 8:05:17 GMT
I called Gerald the "One Hit Wonder" for his recycled sex scenes. No wonder he only slept with most women once. Learn some new moves dude!
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Post by jediguardian on Jan 31, 2017 8:42:43 GMT
My speculation is....
1 Full Romance (Squad mate) 1 Full Romance (Crew member) 2 Light Romance 3-4 (Casual/Bang)
Straight Male/Female may get a bit more option.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 9:24:33 GMT
My speculation is.... 1 Full Romance (Squad mate) 1 Full Romance (Crew member) 2 Light Romance 3-4 (Casual/Bang) Straight Male/Female may get a bit more option. My personal hope is... 1(2) Gay/Bi Human male Squad mate Full Romance 1 Gay Human male Crew member Full Romance 1 Bi Human male Crew member Full romance 2 (or more) Gay/Bi Human male Light Romance 2 or more Human Male Casual Don't want any bang option (IF I not have to) as much as i like your hope list, i really doubt it might happen:(
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 31, 2017 9:59:27 GMT
[...] That was one of the things that bothered me about Garrus romance, why does he feel attracted to female humans? female turians don't have tits, neither are so short, neither have lips, nose, etc, if he feels attracted to humans he should feel attracted to a male shepard as well. Think of it like this: how many straight male gamers found Garrus "attractive"? None, assuming they're straight. But many straight/bi females found Garrus attractive, and not just his voice. /shrug Just how sexuality works, I guess. I still really don't get that, particularly with the Turians. How alien does a species need to get before their gender, assuming the species even has them, becomes irrelevant?
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Post by NextOfQuinn on Jan 31, 2017 11:03:38 GMT
Think of it like this: how many straight male gamers found Garrus "attractive"? None, assuming they're straight. But many straight/bi females found Garrus attractive, and not just his voice. /shrug Just how sexuality works, I guess. I still really don't get that, particularly with the Turians. How alien does a species need to get before their gender, assuming the species even has them, becomes irrelevant? It doesn't matter when it's Arc Turian, baby! This joke has never been made before. >_>
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