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Post by lightdrago3 on May 10, 2017 10:24:42 GMT
You can have "representation" OUTSIDE of romance options. When it comes to romance options, I believe accessibility should be prioritised. That said, I still want exclusive gay alien romances, because I need the bitter tears of heteros to live. How do you do that though. Like, how do I know this male NPC that has a husband is gay and not bisexual, like the rest of the romanceable characters in this game. You're making it more complicated than it should be. How do we know if that female NPC with a husband isn't bisexual, asexual, or trans herself? Sure, we won't know, but in the case of the male NPC, the fact that they decided to show an M/M relationship instead of an M/F relationship is a nice touch for representation. |
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Post by witchcocktor on May 10, 2017 10:25:45 GMT
How do you do that though. Like, how do I know this male NPC that has a husband is gay and not bisexual, like the rest of the romanceable characters in this game. You're making it more complicated than it should be. How do we know if that female NPC with a husband isn't bisexual, asexual, or trans herself? Sure, we won't know, but in the case of the male NPC, the fact that they decided to show an M/M relationship instead of an M/F relationship is a nice touch for representation. I like gay characters I guess, sorry. |
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Post by lightdrago3 on May 10, 2017 10:27:56 GMT
You're making it more complicated than it should be. How do we know if that female NPC with a husband isn't bisexual, asexual, or trans herself? Sure, we won't know, but in the case of the male NPC, the fact that they decided to show an M/M relationship instead of an M/F relationship is a nice touch for representation. I like gay characters I guess, sorry. Then why try ruining it for yourself by assuming they're bi instead of gay? it doesn't do you any good. |
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 10, 2017 10:28:51 GMT
You can have "representation" OUTSIDE of romance options. When it comes to romance options, I believe accessibility should be prioritised.
That said, I still want exclusive gay alien romances, because I need the bitter tears of heteros to live. WHY WERE WE EVEN FIGHTING COMRADE Lol, I think we were talking at cross purposes. I was trying to address posters who think lacking a clearly defined sexuality makes characters "not as well written" or some crap. To me, it makes as much sense as demanding to know their preferred flavour of milkshake, and which milkshakes they have tried in the past.  |
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 10, 2017 10:29:18 GMT
You're making it more complicated than it should be. How do we know if that female NPC with a husband isn't bisexual, asexual, or trans herself? Sure, we won't know, but in the case of the male NPC, the fact that they decided to show an M/M relationship instead of an M/F relationship is a nice touch for representation. I like gay characters I guess, sorry. So, are you really going to say that Avitus and Macen don't count, just because Avitus doesn't pull Ryder aside and say, "Just so you know, both of us were totally into dudes. No girls allowed on these carapaces!" You can second guess anyone that way. |
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Post by witchcocktor on May 10, 2017 10:29:50 GMT
I like gay characters I guess, sorry. Then why try ruining it for yourself by assuming they're bi instead of gay? it doesn't do you any good. Well with this logic anyone who isn't specified could be anything. So even Jaal could be bisexual because he has never specified that he is straight. It doesn't work for me. |
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 10, 2017 10:31:07 GMT
Well, there's no way to ever know for certain, "representation" specifically only refers to what can be seen. I have never had this problem, personally. I don't feel like I lack representation in DA2 because Anders and Fenris are "bisexual" according to the writers. As far as I'm concerned, we're all equal and valued members of the Cocklovers Club. I still like G-A-Y representation so I'm going to disagree with... whatever we are debating I don't know. And Anders and Fenris ARE bisexual. Not '' bisexual. '' They never use that word to refer to themselves. You can choose to interpret them as bisexual because David Gaider said, but I don't consider an author's word to be gospel on any subject. |
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Post by witchcocktor on May 10, 2017 10:31:11 GMT
I like gay characters I guess, sorry. So, are you really going to say that Avitus and Macen don't count, just because Avitus doesn't pull Ryder aside and say, "Just so you know, both of us were totally into dudes. No girls allowed on these carapaces!" You can second guess anyone that way. I don't know, do they? For all we know Avitus is going to find a nice lady in DLC or MEA2. I don't like assuming things. But I do like Avitus, don't get me wrong. But assuming things is pretty meh. |
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Post by witchcocktor on May 10, 2017 10:32:09 GMT
I still like G-A-Y representation so I'm going to disagree with... whatever we are debating I don't know. And Anders and Fenris ARE bisexual. Not '' bisexual. '' They never use that word to refer to themselves. You can choose to interpret them as bisexual because David Gaider said, but I don't consider an author's word to be gospel on any subject. Well I disagree there completely. And that's fine. |
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 10, 2017 10:33:41 GMT
They never use that word to refer to themselves. You can choose to interpret them as bisexual because David Gaider said, but I don't consider an author's word to be gospel on any subject. Well I disagree there completely. And that's fine. Lol, my literature and poetry classes actively required me to disregard author intention. I stopped listening to David Gaider when he told me Wade and Herren were gay. >__> |
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Post by lightdrago3 on May 10, 2017 10:33:45 GMT
Then why try ruining it for yourself by assuming they're bi instead of gay? it doesn't do you any good. Well with this logic anyone who isn't specified could be anything. So even Jaal could be bisexual because he has never specified that he is straight. It doesn't work for me. Do you want them to go up to you and say "Hey, I love men and totally have no sexual interest at girls at all!" ? That would be shoving it in your face, tasteless, unneeded, and tacked on. |
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Post by Pain Delta on May 10, 2017 10:36:30 GMT
listen, I know the patch lands in like less than 5 hours, we're all a little riled up and rowdy,
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Post by witchcocktor on May 10, 2017 10:38:46 GMT
Well with this logic anyone who isn't specified could be anything. So even Jaal could be bisexual because he has never specified that he is straight. It doesn't work for me. Do you want them to go up to you and say "Hey, I love men and totally have no sexual interest at girls at all!" ? That would be shoving it in your face, tasteless, unneeded, and tacked on. *sigh* Of course not?! Don't start getting pissy with me. That's why I ASKED how do you represent a group of people in a world of '' bisexuals. '' Because the obvious answer '' they tell you that they are gay '' is not going to work and sounds lame. That's why I don't know if I fully support all-bisexual LIs. That's it, nothing more. |
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 10, 2017 10:42:33 GMT
Well, that IS how it works now. Gil is only available to Scott, but that's meta information. You know he's GAY because he says so.
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Post by witchcocktor on May 10, 2017 10:45:07 GMT
Romances are obviously a loophole on that regard.
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Post by lightdrago3 on May 10, 2017 10:46:59 GMT
Do you want them to go up to you and say "Hey, I love men and totally have no sexual interest at girls at all!" ? That would be shoving it in your face, tasteless, unneeded, and tacked on. *sigh* Of course not?! Don't start getting pissy with me. That's why I ASKED how do you represent a group of people in a world of '' bisexuals. '' Because the obvious answer '' they tell you that they are gay '' is not going to work and sounds lame. That's why I don't know if I fully support all-bisexual LIs. That's it, nothing more. By having a male NPC paired up with another male NPC? Or a female NPC paired up with another female NPC? We don't know if they're gay sure, but at the same time we don't know if they're bisexual either. So really, to me it is satisfying enough to see the representation for it is. If you can't accept it for what it is, then tough luck I suppose. |
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Post by Panda on May 10, 2017 10:48:52 GMT
listen, I know the patch lands in like less than 5 hours, we're all a little riled up and rowdy, I'll have to restock the salt that I have enough ready when it's out  Maybe this time there will be good news. It's small maybe. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 10:59:04 GMT
I wonder how that casual romance outfits will look like, I bet it will be revealing for females and fully covered for males  |
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 10, 2017 11:05:02 GMT
I wonder how that casual romance outfits will look like, I bet it will be revealing for females and fully covered for males Pathfinder Thong and Nipple Tassles. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 11:08:33 GMT
I wonder how that casual romance outfits will look like, I bet it will be revealing for females and fully covered for males Pathfinder Thong and Nipple Tassles. I bet!  Well after all they said it's for our romances  I'm more concerned about what they fixed and improved in this whole month after patch v1.05, I hope they fixed some quest issues. |
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Post by witchcocktor on May 10, 2017 11:35:39 GMT
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Post by Pain Delta on May 10, 2017 11:41:51 GMT
Leaked image of the upper half of Scott's casual romance outfit If Scott gets that and Sara gets this Andromeda is Saved. |
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Post by witchcocktor on May 10, 2017 11:43:22 GMT
Leaked image of the upper half of Scott's casual romance outfit If Scott gets that and Sara gets this Andromeda is Saved. To be fair I'd wear this all the time. Maybe paired with some tight jeans that really showcases your ass, mmm. |
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Post by Pain Delta on May 10, 2017 11:51:53 GMT
If Scott gets that and Sara gets this Andromeda is Saved. To be fair I'd wear this all the time. Maybe paired with some tight jeans that really showcases your ass, mmm. No Pants Friday is a thing in space right? Y'all got Fridays in Andromeda? |
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Post by Lionrage on May 10, 2017 11:54:35 GMT
listen, I know the patch lands in like less than 5 hours, we're all a little riled up and rowdy, I'll have to restock the salt that I have enough ready when it's out Maybe this time there will be good news. It's small maybe. You do realize your having all these hopeful expectations of Bioware...Montreal right?  |
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