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Post by Artemis on May 10, 2017 22:05:16 GMT
Hey, look guys! Those fancy new outfits everyone's talking about. God they look like fuckin tools
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 10, 2017 22:05:26 GMT
"Be grateful for what they have," is literally the same thing they tell female gamers every time we dare complain about the general lack of female protagonists in gameplay, so it feels pretty hypocritical to say that given your gender flair. It's not the same at all. Female gaming community has grown exponentially. More and more girls and young women are growing up playing games now than ever before. Naturally, it makes sense that you'd see more female or female-oriented things in response. But by that logic, it naturally makes sense that we'd see more LGBT+ or LGBT+-oriented things as well in response to more LGBT+ players playing video games.
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on May 10, 2017 22:05:54 GMT
Right there with you. At least Deus Ex got DLC and support before it went on hiatus. Hopefully ME:A gets something like that. Well, there is that tweet from Cora's VA mentioning her doing new stuff for Cora so we have at least one DLC coming. I could see them supporting the planned DLC cycle and then enacting the hiatus, hopefully. I think it'd take more than one DLC to address the remaining loose threads (quarian ark, Benefactor, the Primus, etc.) But they might have intended some if those to be sequel bait, not DLC. Thanks for the info on Cora's VA It's nice to hear that they didn't just scrap the whole thing only a few months after release.
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Post by Salty Drell on May 10, 2017 22:06:03 GMT
Alright, you can disagree with people and you don't have to be nice about it, but the line stops at personal attacks, yes? Good. What? Context please?
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Post by Artemis on May 10, 2017 22:06:20 GMT
Alright, you can disagree with people and you don't have to be nice about it, but the line stops at personal attacks, yes? Good. This forum is okay with someone saying one group of humanity doesn't deserve the same care and attention as the rest? That line of thinking is really concerning.
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Post by Dirk on May 10, 2017 22:07:09 GMT
I really needed to ask this to both Frasier and Gamble. I sincerely hope that either one of them can give a reply to it Thank you. Though I doubt they will respond.
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Post by cespar on May 10, 2017 22:08:53 GMT
Right also OH BLACK PEOPLE/PEOPLE OF COLOUR ARE A MINORITY SO THEY'RE NOT IMPORTANT THEY CAN JUST GET ENSLAVED AND SHOT DOWN IN THE STREETS WITH NO CONSEQUENCE. Really? You really wanna use stats to talk about social issues? Oh homeless people don't contribute to society while working people contribute 100% to a country's GDP so fuck homeless people. Please don't compare black people/people of color struggles to Bioware fixing something in a game. You could've used a different example or something that was closer to the situation.
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Post by CrutchCricket on May 10, 2017 22:09:50 GMT
This forum is okay with someone saying one group of humanity doesn't deserve the same care and attention as the rest? That line of thinking is really concerning. This forum is not ok with one user directly attacking another for any reason. Hyperbole won't change that.
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Post by The Doctor on May 10, 2017 22:10:53 GMT
Right also OH BLACK PEOPLE/PEOPLE OF COLOUR ARE A MINORITY SO THEY'RE NOT IMPORTANT THEY CAN JUST GET ENSLAVED AND SHOT DOWN IN THE STREETS WITH NO CONSEQUENCE. Really? You really wanna use stats to talk about social issues? Oh homeless people don't contribute to society while working people contribute 100% to a country's GDP so fuck homeless people. Please don't compare black people/people of color struggles to Bioware fixing something in a game. You could've used a different example or something that was closer to the situation. Sorry I jump the gun a lot (also am really salty today) but I did talk about LGBT people in a later reply tho. Not sure if it's better, but I was trying to relate minorities earlier.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 10, 2017 22:10:59 GMT
Well, there is that tweet from Cora's VA mentioning her doing new stuff for Cora so we have at least one DLC coming. I could see them supporting the planned DLC cycle and then enacting the hiatus, hopefully. I think it'd take more than one DLC to address the remaining loose threads (quarian ark, Benefactor, the Primus, etc.) But they might have intended some if those to be sequel bait, not DLC. Thanks for the info on Cora's VA It's nice to hear that they didn't just scrap the whole thing only a few months after release. I saw an interview that talked about some of these loose threads. Can't recall what it said regarding the Primus, but I know the Benefactor story was planned to be a part of the megastory in the Andromeda games, so yeah that one was meant for sequels. The Quarian Ark is pretty much guaranteed for DLC with how on the hammer they are about it at the end of the game. You're welcome. Yeah the fact she is doing that only a few days ago means they didn't just quit completely.
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Post by Obiwancomeblowme on May 10, 2017 22:11:22 GMT
I'm not in the mood to see homophobia being defended because there are more straight people than gay people. I'm just... no, this is not happening. Any mod that allows this to happen is a joke.
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Post by ComedicSociopathy on May 10, 2017 22:11:38 GMT
"Be grateful for what they have," is literally the same thing they tell female gamers every time we dare complain about the general lack of female protagonists in gameplay, so it feels pretty hypocritical to say that given your gender flair. It's not the same at all. Female gaming community has grown exponentially. More and more girls and young women are growing up playing games now than ever before. Naturally, it makes sense that you'd see more female or female-oriented things in response. Why should it matter that gay men only represent 2% of the population when it comes to video game content? Yes, you could say that Bioware should pander to the biggest demographics that buy their games, but why bother doing that when Inquisition shows that straight guys will still buy your product even if their romance content is tied with gay men and lesbians. Besides a vocal minority they don't seem mind equality all that much so why should Bioware worry about pandering all the time?
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Post by Artemis on May 10, 2017 22:11:41 GMT
This forum is okay with someone saying one group of humanity doesn't deserve the same care and attention as the rest? That line of thinking is really concerning. This forum is not ok with one user directly attacking another for any reason. Hyperbole won't change that. You have made the first point quite clear, and I think that is a very laudable rule to enforce. However, you have not addressed my original inquiry.
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Post by Salty Drell on May 10, 2017 22:12:14 GMT
This forum is okay with someone saying one group of humanity doesn't deserve the same care and attention as the rest? That line of thinking is really concerning. This forum is not ok with one user directly attacking another for any reason. Hyperbole won't change that. Proof? Context? How's anyone supposed to understand what's going on here?
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Post by Suaimhneas on May 10, 2017 22:13:13 GMT
Anyway now that ME:A is nearly dead in a ditch how about that DA:4 countdown.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 22:13:48 GMT
I suppose the romances could be worse, at least Kelly Chambers probably died between ME2 and ME3
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Post by disgustednoise on May 10, 2017 22:15:30 GMT
It's not the same at all. Female gaming community has grown exponentially. More and more girls and young women are growing up playing games now than ever before. Naturally, it makes sense that you'd see more female or female-oriented things in response. Why should it matter that gay men only represent 2% of the population when it comes to video game content? Yes, you could say that Bioware should pander to the biggest demographics that buy their games, but why bother doing that when Inquisition shows that straight guys will still buy your product even if their romance content is tied with gay men and lesbians. Besides a vocal minority they don't seem mind equality all that much so why should Bioware worry about pandering all the time? This person has 7 posts on the forum and 5 of them are about (flawed) LGBT demographic percentages. They're either a troll or have an unhealthy obsession with queer people and a need to de-legitimize them. Not worth responding to either way.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 10, 2017 22:16:36 GMT
I suppose the romances could be worse, at least Kelly Chambers probably died between ME2 and ME3 Do you mean ingame or in a more meta sense taking all playthroughts into account?
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Post by Suaimhneas on May 10, 2017 22:17:24 GMT
Why should it matter that gay men only represent 2% of the population when it comes to video game content? Yes, you could say that Bioware should pander to the biggest demographics that buy their games, but why bother doing that when Inquisition shows that straight guys will still buy your product even if their romance content is tied with gay men and lesbians. Besides a vocal minority they don't seem mind equality all that much so why should Bioware worry about pandering all the time? This person has 7 posts on the forum and 5 of them are about (flawed) LGBT demographic percentages. They're either a troll or have an unhealthy obsession with queer people and a need to de-legitimize them. Not worth responding to either way. I suspect I can guess what thread their main account lives in.
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Post by The Doctor on May 10, 2017 22:17:42 GMT
Why should it matter that gay men only represent 2% of the population when it comes to video game content? Yes, you could say that Bioware should pander to the biggest demographics that buy their games, but why bother doing that when Inquisition shows that straight guys will still buy your product even if their romance content is tied with gay men and lesbians. Besides a vocal minority they don't seem mind equality all that much so why should Bioware worry about pandering all the time? This person has 7 posts on the forum and 5 of them are about (flawed) LGBT demographic percentages. They're either a troll or have an unhealthy obsession with queer people and a need to de-legitimize them. Not worth responding to either way. I bet Kaidan, an unapologetic BISEXUAL wouldn't be pleased.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 10, 2017 22:17:58 GMT
This person has 7 posts on the forum and 5 of them are about (flawed) LGBT demographic percentages. They're either a troll or have an unhealthy obsession with queer people and a need to de-legitimize them. Not worth responding to either way. I suspect I can guess what thread their main account lives in. The Politics Thread?
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 22:18:28 GMT
I suppose the romances could be worse, at least Kelly Chambers probably died between ME2 and ME3 Do you mean ingame or in a more meta sense taking all playthroughts into account? A little of both. Personally I think it's more likely she comitted suicide in prison after Cerberus was destroyed. Loyal to the end type. Probably sold herself to the Illusive Man on occasion.
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Post by Kian on May 10, 2017 22:18:49 GMT
It would be great if the normal people in the thread would stop glossing over this absurd "2%" nonsense. Look up the recent statistics (shockingly you have to avoid the fake ones created by religious organisations), look around in the world a bit, and just don't let the idiotic troll get away with it. "Yeah maybe we are or aren't 2%... bla bla but that's not the point". While accurate, and the argument itself for "they are ONLY x% so fk 'em" is objectively wrong and absurd, ignoring the very usage of this nonsense or letting it slide is just... I mean really? Spoiler alert 1: No, the population of gay people is not "just" 2%. Spoiler alert 2: Even if it was, that would not justify anything the troll was babbling about. Spoiler alert 3: DUH!
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Post by Crim on May 10, 2017 22:19:00 GMT
Anyway now that ME:A is nearly dead in a ditch how about that DA:4 countdown. I am getting some epic mileage outta this gif, thanks ME:A team.
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