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Post by CrutchCricket on May 10, 2017 22:34:23 GMT
I've reported someone who is not following the rules. Great. One of us will take a look. Kindly note that improper repeated or excessive reporting will also be actionable. |
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Post by oh deer on May 10, 2017 22:34:24 GMT
srry guise homophomia doesn't exit anymore because i saw gay kiss in a dreem once
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 10, 2017 22:35:10 GMT
"Be grateful for what they have," is literally the same thing they tell female gamers every time we dare complain about the general lack of female protagonists in gameplay, so it feels pretty hypocritical to say that given your gender flair. It's not the same at all. Female gaming community has grown exponentially. More and more girls and young women are growing up playing games now than ever before. Naturally, it makes sense that you'd see more female or female-oriented things in response. And more and more LGBT people have been playing games now more than ever before. And the ones that were already there have been coming out of the closet more often because of growing acceptance. |
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Post by Steelcan on May 10, 2017 22:35:19 GMT
I'd say the victimization complex in this thread is strong, but I do see why its there, m/m romances and players got screwed, but I don't see how jabs at the mods are really going to mitigate that.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 22:36:02 GMT
I've reported someone who is not following the rules. Great. One of us will take a look. Kindly note that improper repeated or excessive reporting will also be actionable. For objectivity, I would kindly suggest it be another mod. That way no conflict of interest can be inferred on the matter. |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 10, 2017 22:36:29 GMT
srry guise homophomia doesn't exit anymore because i saw gay kiss in a dreem once hey uh guise homophobia doesn't exist if you put "i'm not homophobic but..." or "i have lots of lgbt friends but..." in front of it.  |
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Post by Porter on May 10, 2017 22:37:25 GMT
Why should it matter that gay men only represent 2% of the population when it comes to video game content? Yes, you could say that Bioware should pander to the biggest demographics that buy their games, but why bother doing that when Inquisition shows that straight guys will still buy your product even if their romance content is tied with gay men and lesbians. Besides a vocal minority they don't seem mind equality all that much so why should Bioware worry about pandering all the time? This person has 7 posts on the forum and 5 of them are about (flawed) LGBT demographic percentages. They're either a troll or have an unhealthy obsession with queer people and a need to de-legitimize them. Not worth responding to either way. If the character has a history of at least normal flirting with the opposite sex, then he/she should not be changed. Don't change a character's sexual orientation or even create a new character for the sole purpose of diversity. Jaal is straight. Changing that would ruin his character. |
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Post by Kian on May 10, 2017 22:37:41 GMT
Ah yes, my friend CrutchCricket . No doubt here to explain again how being homophobic is free speech, but calling someone out on being homophobic is "personal attack". *reads* Oh what do you know, he/she already did it while I was writing my other message! Funny how several people on this thread were able to succinctly explain why a post was in error without attacking the user. Almost like they were operating on facts and reason, not reactions. Luckily for you, the moderating team works on the same principle.  If you want to pull off passive aggressive sarcasm, you need to be more subtle. Otherwise it will just be a simple example of lashing out when you have nothing good to say. |
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Post by Salty Drell on May 10, 2017 22:38:51 GMT
I'd say the victimization complex in this thread is strong, but I do see why its there, m/m romances and players got screwed, but I don't see how jabs at the mods are really going to mitigate that. Nothing wrong with disagreeing with a mod. They're not more important people because they're a mod, and if they think they are, that's a shame. |
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Post by The Doctor on May 10, 2017 22:39:32 GMT
This person has 7 posts on the forum and 5 of them are about (flawed) LGBT demographic percentages. They're either a troll or have an unhealthy obsession with queer people and a need to de-legitimize them. Not worth responding to either way. If the character has a history of at least normal flirting with the opposite sex, then he/she should not be changed. Don't change a character's sexual orientation or even create a new character for the sole purpose of diversity. Jaal is straight. Changing that would ruin his character. Not just about Jaal but thanks for the input. Also "create a new character for the sole purpose of diversity" well bioware has a problem w creating characters that just so happen to be gay so tell it to them to stop creating characters that are GAY and it's all about them being gay and not about them being them. |
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Post by Suaimhneas on May 10, 2017 22:39:33 GMT
This person has 7 posts on the forum and 5 of them are about (flawed) LGBT demographic percentages. They're either a troll or have an unhealthy obsession with queer people and a need to de-legitimize them. Not worth responding to either way. If the character has a history of at least normal flirting with the opposite sex, then he/she should not be changed. Don't change a character's sexual orientation or even create a new character for the sole purpose of diversity. Jaal is straight. Changing that would ruin his character. Something tells me you don't like that somewhere in someone's canon ME3 play through Kaidan is getting plowed by M!Shep.  |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 10, 2017 22:39:52 GMT
This person has 7 posts on the forum and 5 of them are about (flawed) LGBT demographic percentages. They're either a troll or have an unhealthy obsession with queer people and a need to de-legitimize them. Not worth responding to either way. If the character has a history of at least normal flirting with the opposite sex, then he/she should not be changed. Don't change a character's sexual orientation or even create a new character for the sole purpose of diversity. Jaal is straight. Changing that would ruin his character. I don't know if I should find the irony of this comment being said by someone who has ME3 Kaidan as their avatar funny or sad. |
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Post by Obiwancomeblowme on May 10, 2017 22:40:13 GMT
This person has 7 posts on the forum and 5 of them are about (flawed) LGBT demographic percentages. They're either a troll or have an unhealthy obsession with queer people and a need to de-legitimize them. Not worth responding to either way. If the character has a history of at least normal flirting with the opposite sex, then he/she should not be changed. Don't change a character's sexual orientation or even create a new character for the sole purpose of diversity. Jaal is straight. Changing that would ruin his character. You can be a guy with 200 ex girlfriends and still end up with a guy. That's actually how bisexuality works. Both sexes. Ruin his character? Are you joking right now? Your biphobia is really starting to stink up the thread. |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 10, 2017 22:40:18 GMT
This person has 7 posts on the forum and 5 of them are about (flawed) LGBT demographic percentages. They're either a troll or have an unhealthy obsession with queer people and a need to de-legitimize them. Not worth responding to either way. If the character has a history of at least normal flirting with the opposite sex, then he/she should not be changed. Don't change a character's sexual orientation or even create a new character for the sole purpose of diversity. Jaal is straight. Changing that would ruin his character.Nah. A character being made bi wouldn't ruin a character. You know what ruins a character for people? Being rude to their gay fanbase. |
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Post by Crim on May 10, 2017 22:40:20 GMT
This thread has gone many places today...  I still miss Nat tho. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 22:40:49 GMT
If the character has a history of at least normal flirting with the opposite sex, then he/she should not be changed. Don't change a character's sexual orientation or even create a new character for the sole purpose of diversity. Jaal is straight. Changing that would ruin his character. Something tells me you don't like that somewhere in someone's canon ME3 play through Kaidan is getting plowed by M!Shep. I still think Male Shepard and Kaidan was the best and most realistic romance since it took 3 games to develop. Same with Garrus and Female Shepard starting off in ME2. |
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on May 10, 2017 22:41:00 GMT
srry guise homophomia doesn't exit anymore because i saw gay kiss in a dreem once hey uh guise homophobia doesn't exist if you put "i'm not homophobic but..." or "i have lots of lgbt friends but..." in front of it. Pretty much any sentence that begins with "I'm not X but..." should stop right there. Unless it's a glorious non sequitor. "I'm not a doctor, but pickles are delicious." "I'm not homophobic, but did you know that cats have nictating membranes in their eyes?' "I'm not a developer, but KITTIES." |
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Post by disgustednoise on May 10, 2017 22:41:03 GMT
It would be great if the normal people in the thread would stop glossing over this absurd "2%" nonsense. Look up the recent statistics (shockingly you have to avoid the fake ones created by religious organisations), look around in the world a bit, and just don't let the idiotic troll get away with it. "Yeah maybe we are or aren't 2%... bla bla but that's not the point". While accurate, and the argument itself for "they are ONLY x% so fk 'em" is objectively wrong and absurd, ignoring the very usage of this nonsense or letting it slide is just... I mean really?  Spoiler alert 1: No, the population of gay people is not "just" 2%. Spoiler alert 2: Even if it was, that would not justify anything the troll was babbling about. Spoiler alert 3: DUH! If we follow demographic trends, more millennials identify as LGBT than any previous generation, not including people still closeted even in that generation. Meaning they could easily tap more of a market from young people if they had more important LGBT rep and didn't sideline us when convenient. So that's just yet another detail of why their marketing for ME:A was shit. Instead of being ashamed of having any LGBT stuff at all, they should have marketed the hell out of it. Following the generational trend (of more percentage identifying as LGBT each new generation), we could also easily see an increase in LGBT people among Generation Z (Post-Millennials) and Generation Alpha (Post-Generation Z). And I don't think it's due to "LGBT propaganda" that conservatives like to whine about, or the "transtrenders" that anti-SJW people like to complain about. I think it's due to general growth in both population and growing acceptance in the western world. I mean, I only found out about Bioware because they put those gay romances in there. And then I even went back and bought games that didn't have gay content because I enjoyed them so much. If it wasn't for Anders and Kaidan, they wouldn't have the copious amounts of money they've gotten from me over the past four years. Imagine who they could get if they didn't treat it like a half-dyed Easter egg. |
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Post by Dirk on May 10, 2017 22:41:43 GMT
It would be great if the normal people in the thread would stop glossing over this absurd "2%" nonsense. Look up the recent statistics (shockingly you have to avoid the fake ones created by religious organisations), look around in the world a bit, and just don't let the idiotic troll get away with it. "Yeah maybe we are or aren't 2%... bla bla but that's not the point". While accurate, and the argument itself for "they are ONLY x% so fk 'em" is objectively wrong and absurd, ignoring the very usage of this nonsense or letting it slide is just... I mean really? Spoiler alert 1: No, the population of gay people is not "just" 2%. Spoiler alert 2: Even if it was, that would not justify anything the troll was babbling about. Spoiler alert 3: DUH! If we follow demographic trends, more millennials identify as LGBT than any previous generation, not including people still closeted even in that generation. Meaning they could easily tap more of a market from young people if they had more important LGBT rep and didn't sideline us when convenient. So that's just yet another detail of why their marketing for ME:A was shit. Instead of being ashamed of having any LGBT stuff at all, they should have marketed the hell out of it. Following the generational trend (of more percentage identifying as LGBT each new generation), we could also easily see an increase in LGBT people among Generation Z (Post-Millennials) and Generation Alpha (Post-Generation Z). And I don't think it's due to "LGBT propaganda" that conservatives like to whine about, or the "transtrenders" that anti-SJW people like to complain about. I think it's due to general growth in both population and growing acceptance in the western world. I would like to add that in some eastern world more lgbt population is more visible and more tolerated too. It's quite fascinating really that within my lifetime I could see a huge shift in terms of lgbt visibility, and I hope the overall trend continues. |
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Post by farferello on May 10, 2017 22:42:03 GMT
If the character has a history of at least normal flirting with the opposite sex, then he/she should not be changed. Don't change a character's sexual orientation or even create a new character for the sole purpose of diversity. Jaal is straight. Changing that would ruin his character. Something tells me you don't like that somewhere in someone's canon ME3 play through Kaidan is getting plowed by M!Shep. Well he's busy plowing MShep in my canon.  |
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Post by SofaJockey on May 10, 2017 22:42:30 GMT
I'd say the victimization complex in this thread is strong, but I do see why its there, m/m romances and players got screwed, but I don't see how jabs at the mods are really going to mitigate that. Indeed... Mods' priority is normally calm and productive threads. The Character Romance thread is a popular thread, it's not a place for fights, vendettas or hate (veiled or otherwise). How about this thread draws a line under those things and carries on with a discussion about, I don't know, 'Character Romance' perhaps... |
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Post by sandalisthemaker on May 10, 2017 22:42:39 GMT
Natashina we miss you so much! Please come baaaaaaack!!!!!
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 10, 2017 22:43:18 GMT
hey uh guise homophobia doesn't exist if you put "i'm not homophobic but..." or "i have lots of lgbt friends but..." in front of it. Pretty much any sentence that begins with "I'm not X but..." should stop right there. Unless it's a glorious non sequitor. "I'm not a doctor, but pickles are delicious." "I'm not homophobic, but did you know that cats have nictating membranes in their eyes?' "I'm not a developer, but KITTIES." I'm not a man, but I'm sure it's the same experience as drinking a piña colada and getting caught in the rain. |
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Post by Dirk on May 10, 2017 22:43:18 GMT
Something tells me you don't like that somewhere in someone's canon ME3 play through Kaidan is getting plowed by M!Shep. Well he's busy plowing MShep in my canon. He and my Shepard are very busy plowing each other in my canon. #VersPride  |
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