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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 23:02:40 GMT
Are you even a Jaal fan or romanced him? Just curious. We're pretty sure we know who she is now. So this is an alt account'? I've seen her before.
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Post by Joey on May 10, 2017 23:03:06 GMT
So would you guys be ok with BioWare making Dorian straight/bi? Somehow I doubt that.
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Post by lightdrago3 on May 10, 2017 23:03:22 GMT
No she canonically likes synthetics. She is quite happy to receive organicxsynthetic porn from EDI so she totes wants mechanical v. Really? Where was this? Same. I never ran into that piece of info.
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Post by flog61 on May 10, 2017 23:03:36 GMT
No she canonically likes synthetics. She is quite happy to receive organicxsynthetic porn from EDI so she totes wants mechanical v. Really? Where was this? I'm guessing it's from one iteration of the citadel party
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Post by coldchrome on May 10, 2017 23:03:38 GMT
So would you guys be ok with BioWare making Dorian straight/bi? Somehow I doubt that. Well if 50% of his plot wasnt about him being gay and his dad using blood magic to make him straight* sure go for it. As long on the next games m/m is guaranteed a squadmate romance and not wtf Jill is and a 2nd hand animated fling. But thats just my opnion of course.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 10, 2017 23:03:54 GMT
So would you guys be ok with BioWare making Dorian straight/bi? Somehow I doubt that. Was Cullen being straight a significant part of his character arc and backstory? No. Was Solas being straight a significant part of his character arc and backstory? No. That's my logic here. There's a lot of straight characters that could have easily been bi and I'd be fine with them being bisexual because their whole story isn't about "My father tried to change my sexuality because he didn't want me to procreate." Meanwhile, Dorian's whole side quest is about magical fantasy conversion therapy for heirs.
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Post by Mihura on May 10, 2017 23:03:59 GMT
So would you guys be ok with BioWare making Dorian straight/bi? Somehow I doubt that. Are you even a Jaal fan or romanced him? Just curious.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 10, 2017 23:04:18 GMT
Are you even a Jaal fan or romanced him? Just curious. We're pretty sure we know who she is now. Who is it?
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Post by Ryzaki on May 10, 2017 23:04:24 GMT
So would you guys be ok with BioWare making Dorian straight/bi? Somehow I doubt that. Because that's actually dumb. The reverse argument doesn't work when you are taking away from those that have the minimum. Eh it's dumb either way. The ship's sailed. That said making Dorian bi would be more egregious considering f/m players in DAI have a wealth of options to choose from and giving them an additional option while causing m/m players to lose their exclusive one would be tone deaf.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 23:05:46 GMT
I'm sorry but you're misremembering. I've done committed mshenko runs of the while trilogy with the ME1 console command romance 10 times. I can tell you there's as much of a case to assume that Kaidan is gay as there is to assume he's straight. A good compromise is to consider him bi or just a playersexual option without a predetermined orientation. It makes no difference in the context of the romance content. Kaidan loves Shepard, any Shepard. No their really isn't. You discarding dialogue that doesn't fit your interpretation to claim he's gay is as dumb as the people who insist he's straight. And it's not a compromise to consider him bi/playersexual that's his orientation. That said Kaidan doesn't love any Shepard since my renedouche never got any confession :3 This argument doesn't work in a game with interchangeable canon options which can vary depending on selected dialogue options, order of missions etc. Not taking a specific dialogue option is not disregarding it. It's how the game is meant to be played. What you experience is your canon, anyone can dig deeper to fill in the blanks any way they want. Makes no difference to me, there's a subtle reference to multiverse theory in the game anyway so everyone gets their own canons in an infinite number of quantum realities.
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"I'm a doctor but not a doctor of medicine." Great now you reminded me of that dude who filled some women's butt with cement. Thanks for that. I love how, amidst the tepid matchflames of recent content posted today, you pull this out. I'm not sure why, or from where, but it is what it is. Obvious Troll trolls thread, but hey, about that woman with cement in her butt...
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 23:06:06 GMT
We're pretty sure we know who she is now. Who is it? I'd like to know because usually people that like Jaal post in our thread, so I am wonder why she never does. I don't call everyone a troll, though this is pretty obvious, but still, if someone likes Jaal that much, they usually post in our thread.
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Post by Aurora on May 10, 2017 23:06:28 GMT
So would you guys be ok with BioWare making Dorian straight/bi? Somehow I doubt that. Was Cullen being straight a significant part of his character arc and backstory? No. Was Solas being straight a significant part of his character arc and backstory? No. That's my logic here. There's a lot of straight characters that could have easily been bi and I'd be fine with them being bisexual because their whole story isn't about "My father tried to change my sexuality because he didn't want me to procreate." Meanwhile, Dorian's whole side quest is about magical fantasy conversion therapy for heirs. yup, it wouldn't work for this reason
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Post by Dirk on May 10, 2017 23:07:49 GMT
Are you even a Jaal fan or romanced him? Just curious. We're pretty sure we know who she is now. I have 2 candidates in mind. I've seen those exact wordings in some other thread before...
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Post by disgustednoise on May 10, 2017 23:08:02 GMT
We're pretty sure we know who she is now. So this is an alt account'? I've seen her before. I mean, they have a whopping two posts in their history that aren't complaining about queer men, so that doesn't look particularly legitimate. They probably just forgot to log into their real account for them.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 23:08:12 GMT
No she canonically likes synthetics. She is quite happy to receive organicxsynthetic porn from EDI so she totes wants mechanical v. Really? Where was this? Citadel party, upper level, Tali, Traynor, EDI discuss the voice attraction and Tali is like awwwkwaaard.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 23:08:56 GMT
So this is an alt account'? I've seen her before. I mean, they have a whopping two posts in their history that aren't complaining about queer men, so that doesn't look particularly legitimate. They probably just forgot to log into their real account for them. I saw them last time things got heated here when I was still ladyconsular. This is the second time in months.
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Post by uirebhiril on May 10, 2017 23:09:13 GMT
I could've sworn he mentioned it during the dinner where you initiate his romance. That and while he's cooped up in the hospital. Nope. Rana is optional dialogue in ME1 only. The only time he mentioned women to me was in ME1 when he said he didn't fancy asari. Yet another damn reason to love Kaidan. I never got the feeling his crush on Rana was anything serious anyway. She gets brought up a lot about his "past issues," but the dialogue clearly says he was troubled by how she became afraid of him for how he used his biotics, and that was his problem. Not that a girl broke his heart or some other such bullshit. Just that he had this power and it was something that could be harmful if he's not careful.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 10, 2017 23:09:16 GMT
So this is an alt account'? I've seen her before. I mean, they have a whopping two posts in their history that aren't complaining about queer men, so that doesn't look particularly legitimate. They probably just forgot to log into their real account for them. She must be super lame if she dedicates a special forum account just to whining about LGBT men.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 10, 2017 23:09:41 GMT
Citadel party, upper level, Tali, Traynor, EDI discuss the voice attraction and Tali is like awwwkwaaard. Ah, okay. That's why I don't remember hearing it. I retract my earlier statement then. Thank you for answering.
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Post by disgustednoise on May 10, 2017 23:11:00 GMT
I'm sorry but you're misremembering. I've done committed mshenko runs of the while trilogy with the ME1 console command romance 10 times. I can tell you there's as much of a case to assume that Kaidan is gay as there is to assume he's straight. A good compromise is to consider him bi or just a playersexual option without a predetermined orientation. It makes no difference in the context of the romance content. Kaidan loves Shepard, any Shepard. No their really isn't. You discarding dialogue that doesn't fit your interpretation to claim he's gay is as dumb as the people who insist he's straight. And it's not a compromise to consider him bi/playersexual that's his orientation. That said Kaidan doesn't love any Shepard since my renedouche never got any confession :3 It bums me out when I see people try to headcanon or rationalize a bi character as either straight or gay. Kaidan is a super bi and he should be loved for it.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 23:11:05 GMT
Nope. Rana is optional dialogue in ME1 only. The only time he mentioned women to me was in ME1 when he said he didn't fancy asari. Yet another damn reason to love Kaidan. I never got the feeling his crush on Rana was anything serious anyway. She gets brought up a lot about his "past issues," but the dialogue clearly says he was troubled by how she became afraid of him for how he used his biotics, and that was his problem. Not that a girl broke his heart or some other such bullshit. Just that he had this power and it was something that could be harmful if he's not careful. Yeah he mentions that Vyyrnus "hurt a girl" Kaidan's defending one of his classmates is hardly indicative of sexuality, just him being a nice guy.
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Post by Ryzaki on May 10, 2017 23:11:07 GMT
No their really isn't. You discarding dialogue that doesn't fit your interpretation to claim he's gay is as dumb as the people who insist he's straight. And it's not a compromise to consider him bi/playersexual that's his orientation. That said Kaidan doesn't love any Shepard since my renedouche never got any confession :3 This argument doesn't work in a game with interchangeable canon options which can vary depending on selected dialogue options, order of missions etc. Not taking a specific dialogue option is not disregarding it. It's how the game is meant to be played. What you experience is your canon, anyone can dig deeper to fill in the blanks any way they want. Makes no difference to me, there's a subtle reference to multiverse theory in the game anyway so everyone gets their own canons in an infinite number of quantum realities. It'd discarding information in game about a character to suit whatever backstory you want them to have. It's like pretending Jack doesn't have survivor's guilt because you didn't play her romance. In game yeah not working off that information makes sense because the PC and the player are not the same being and have access to the same information. And while the PC is interchangeable the NPCs are not. They always have the same baseline personality and traits even if certain decisions are changed through the PC's intervention. But my main issue with the "he's gay" thing is it can just as easily be used to say "he's straight" and half this thread has been complaining about just that.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 23:11:41 GMT
Citadel party, upper level, Tali, Traynor, EDI discuss the voice attraction and Tali is like awwwkwaaard. Ah, okay. That's why I don't remember hearing it. I retract my earlier statement then. Thank you for answering. Of course. It's a very funny scene, one of my favourites from the party.
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Post by Porter on May 10, 2017 23:11:52 GMT
So would you guys be ok with BioWare making Dorian straight/bi? Somehow I doubt that. Are you even a Jaal fan or romanced him? Just curious. Yes, and that's why i don't want him to be another character that was ruined by "forced diversity".
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