The Character Romance thread (Official)

Niles is eh. Rhajat is a cheap knockoff of Tharja.

I'm not gonna lie I hardcore read all the Xander/MCorrin fanfic I can get my hands on. I kind of wish the siblings had been bi tho I get why Xander isn't given the whole need royal heir thing. But damnit he could've just boned some rando for his kid like Chrom randomly does if you marry/kill off all the females before he can marry them.

I admit I was fine with the implications? But I'm into some messed up romances so *shrug* Plus everyone in that family had some weird attachment issues so I could totally see that happening.

I need a "into weird shit" tag. XD

The children being LIs is always kind of creepy because there's some routes the PC clearly was around them as they developed so it's kind of like.

Yeah I'm into weird/kinky shit but not that Lolita grooming shit. Get that outta here.

People who experience homophobia are gonna know more about homophobia than people who aren't the targets of it.

Indeed, especially when it comes to the thinly veiled stuff that people can try and weasel out of. For this to be more easily identified would help with moderation. And let's be can frank responding to homophobia by calling it homophobia is not a personal attack. When homophobic comments are left as they are and those that challenge it punish, it paints negative images for the moderation.

Also, I think people get weirdly defensive when people say a statement is homophobic.

Like, a person who isn't (usually) rude can still say something rude, you know? So acting like that's a personal attack is stupid.

I think that it depends largely on how it is done and on the character in question.  I will note however, I don't think anyone qualified their statements, so I'm inclined to agree with you tentatively. 

In the case of Jaal, I don't think we can say it would ruin his character because there's nothing there to ruin....unless his Angaran family just isn't willing to extend their acceptance to a Male Ryder, but I will not claim to be even familiar with his romance.

Damn that shit still stings. They should have come clean in the first place by releasing all LI info, rather than revealing two m/f romance, insinuating other m/f and f/m romances, and being so quiet on m/m and f/f. 

And now they are doing it again with the supposed m/m improvement. They don't learn.

And the other half dozen times you've left in the past few months? Come on. 

Jaal's mostly kind of dull which is why I don't get the fervor around him.

Also if he speaks any slower I'd want my Ryder to punch him in the face.

The issue with Jaal is they went overboard with his woman-crazy attitude. It's like they were trying so hard to shove him being straight in our face. Even his comment strictly referring to females liking his scar and not the crew itself. That's why some think making him bi is wrong. Not me. Others.

For me I am just worried he would be literally ruined aka broken.

I think a lot of people don't distinguish between "You said a homophobic thing, whether intentionally or not" and "YOU'RE A FUCKING​ HOMOPHOBE, GET OUT". I think a lot of people hear the first thing and think they're being told the second thing.

Yep! To us, being called something we aren't is as bad as you guys being called homos in a bigotry way.
 
TELL US WHAT WE SAID SO WE KNOW NOT TO SAY IT THAT WAY AGAIN

It's worth keeping in mind that sometimes what you consider an inflammatory post just isn't seen as being against the site rules by the moderator staff, or that banning the person and removing the post isn't always the solution that's decided on.

Also an actual report of the post by clicking on the gear on the top right and selecting "report post" is the proper way to report a post. When you a PM a moderator then it only goes to that moderator, but the actual report function sends it to a list that all moderators have access to and can comment on before action is taken. Sometimes it takes a little bit for us to reach a decision, but we'll always discuss it at that point.

I noticed that earlier Gil's Salty Gloves said he reported an inflammatory post and yet, I can't find any record of it. I looked as far back in the archives as 2 months and I don't see any posts reported by him. I'm not intending on calling him out here but if there was such a post that he wanted somebody to look at, I'd love to see it so it can be handled.

and it's impossible for a mod to actually delete something out of the record. If it gets reported, it's in that list.

I'm also going to play a bit of devil's advocate here and say that it's entirely possible to take up some of the points of view frequently called homophobic in this thread from a stance that isn't homophobic. Just because somebody disagrees that Jaal being made bi would ruin his character doesn't mean that there is no other reason for having that opinion.

The politics thread has made me be more aware of things like that. A lot of stuff got reported in that thread whenever two opposing opinions clashed.

but it's only by having opposing points of view and having our ideas actually be challenged that things grow stronger. An echo chamber doesn't serve anybody, and admittedly this thread has a bit of a habit of being one.

I'm here to try to remove homophobic and heterophobic(which are just as unacceptable) comments, not to try to remove opposing points of view. The trick is being able to tell the difference between the two, which can become a very blurred line.

I like to think that I personally have always tried to be fair to everybody, but if there's no trust I don't imagine as there is much as I can actually say to bring it back.