The Character Romance thread (Official)

Does he tell her that? That seems to contradict about two dozen comments I remember from him in the game. But that might be largely because he often has to be The Angara rather than just Jaal, so because angara are into families and he's the only one around to remind us, he has to bring it up a lot. Likely it's just the general editing.

Also, if he wants loyal and steadfast, maybe Jaal can stop hitting on my romanced Vetra.

This might be an unpopular opinion, but I like Iron Bull/Dorian more than either of them with the Inquisitor. (And I very much ship either of them with the Inquisitor)

Most canonical companion/companion (or squadmate/squadmate) pairings though I can't get into. I'm not against them, at least in theory, but none of them have gotten me as invested as Dorian and Iron Bull's relationship. Maybe it's better that way.

go ahead then, twist the knife further if you must...

The amount of salt I'll have if Bull/Dorian is mentioned in DA4 more than Bull/Quizzy.

I doubt there will be much content with Bull either way. He could be dead (or not even recruited into the Inquisition), so that fact alone is limiting. In comparison, Dorian is always a magister, regardless of player choice. The Inquisitor's presence might also be spare, so what little of it there is might not have much time for romance mentions.

As Dorian is expected to be a major player in DA4, I don't even think there will be a great deal of Inquisitor/Dorian content either. While it would be awesome, I don't expect my DA4 PC to walk in on them making out, or anything.

Even so, I don't think it would be fair to players who don't import a Dorian romance. Small comments aside (like with Hawke and their LI), Dorian is actually there, and the Inquisitor might be there as well. The only romance where it wouldn't be unfair is for the Solas-mancers, since they need closure, and PW has said he wants that to happen.

Haha yeah and on Meridian he's a bit grumpy his whole family wants to visit, and during sibling talk with Vetra he admits the family thing. Banter as usual.

I look at as, he likes Ryder so much, he can't control how he feels, so he says stupid things lol and it's easier to flirt with the ones he's not serious about.

Also if you flirt with Reyes, Jaal questions your interest, and Sara asks if he's jealous lol

I always compare Jaal to Cole. Both say things that are a bit too bold or unacceptable sometimes. They also have a similar fighting style with their daggers.

Yeah, I doubt there'll be much about Iron Bull since he can be dead and he's not enough of a fan favorite to resurrect him no matter what.

As for Dorian, if his role in DA4 is at all similar to Leliana's (plot important NPC that you interact with often), there might be a couple lines if he's romanced like how there was for Leliana if romanced. However, I doubt it'll be much. Probably a few lines of dialogue, mentions of their relationship in a codex entry or two, and maybe a banter with someone. Like maybe some guy flirts with him and he's like, "Sorry, I'm spoken for." Oh and of course mentions of the relationship continuing in the epilogue.

I didn't feel like there was much closure for the Dorian romance in DA:I, personally, since he goes to Tevinter no matter what. I hope they at least update us on how the long distance relationship is going and give us some closure through him talking about returning to be with the Inquisitor in DA4. That is, if they don't kill him off for the sake of drama.

I'm really just lurking now and have been catching up on the last few pages. But having read through the past 20 pages or so, I find the bolded a little ironic. The drama started because an obvious troll account told LGBT players that we are a minority and we should be grateful for what we received. So...it doesn't feel good, does it?

I know that you and the other moderators do a lot of work, all unpaid and probably a lot of unrewarding work to keep this place up. Kudos go to you all for that. But it's also your choice to be a moderator and if you feel like some of your points have gone unheard or you are wrongly being attacked for misunderstanding your views, you can very easily walk away and never have to deal with it again. If an out LGBT person wants to avoid feeling like this in the real world it can be a lot harder. Not in all cases and things are getting better overall, though from an American perspective LGBT rights have been backsliding the past...100 days or so. And in Chechnya right now gay men are being rounded up and killed.

So I think it's because the concept of "heterophobia" suggests that heterosexuals can face discrimination because of their sexuality that using that term in a discussion is not helpful. It's similar IMO to people saying if black people get a month for history, why can't white people? Or if there's a gay pride parade, why not a straight pride? It completely trivializes prejudice and discrimination that minority groups have had for years and are still facing. White people don't need white history month, 11 months out of the year is white history month. And straight people don't need a pride parade, no straight person ever has felt ashamed of their sexuality.

Of course heterosexuals can be attacked on the basis of their sexuality and that still sucks. No one should be attacked or discriminated against for sexuality of any kind or any other inherent quality of a person. But one person on a board calling someone a breeder is not in the same ball park as going to any YouTube comments section, reddit thread, Twitter, whatever and consistently seeing remarks against fags. 

I also think it was just unfortunate timing when mods stepped into the discussion. Just from reading through the recent posts, the "you should be grateful you 2% 'ers" account posted multiple inflammatory things which rightly should have just been ignored. People responded, things didn't seem to be reaching critical mass. Then we see a mod step in and say they deleted a post and everyone play nice. We didn't see what the content of the deleted post was (later learning it was a personal attack which is bad) but at that moment in time it looked like the mods only got involved when enough people had "ganged up" on this person who was clearly fishing for a reaction. And by telling everyone across the board to "play nice" and be respectful felt like a slap in the face when the majority of people were standing up for their basic rights as humans. It feels like the mods are willing to look the other way if troll accounts are telling LGBT people to shut up, but as soon as we speak back mods intervene. I know that is not the intention but that feels to me how many on this thread have felt it played out. Just something to think on.

I didn't feel like there was much closure for the Dorian romance in DA:I, personally, since he goes to Tevinter no matter what. I hope they at least update us on how the long distance relationship is going and give us some closure through him talking about returning to be with the Inquisitor in DA4. That is, if they don't kill him off for the sake of drama.