The Character Romance thread (Official)

normally i would agree, he had a rich life, and did much, it's okay to die a hero. BUT that line from flemeth to hawke from da2 (when on the edge of the abyss let go, only then you learn to fly- something cryptic like that) are really nagging at me. what if hawke is meant to stay in fade and only if he/she stays everybody survives? i dont know

I did that with Alistair and I dont want to be in this situation ever again



Either way I dont know how feasible it is to bring the all eight LIs in DA4 to choose between your quizzy and their LI... SO NOP, NOT HAPPENING NOT TODAY SATAN

The reason why catering to straight men isn't the same as catering to gay men or any other orientation is that catering to straight men is frequently synonymous with misogyny.
Lots of what centers around straight male desire in this world is fundamentally rooted in a devaluing of women as anything other than objects for male desire, and as fundamentally very susceptible to male control. This is pretty basic, obvious stuff.

The camera zooming in on Cora as she winces during the exact moment of penetration because the totally hetero Scott has a huge dick is a misogynistic moment. Cora saying things like "don't be charming when I'm mad at you" plays into straight male desires about how their charm can woo women out of facing consequences for their actions, the whole loveable rogue thing is very rooted in a sexism.
There is no equivalent system in place for gay male fantasies within bioware as it is overwhelmingly clear the devs for MEA are all straight men. When they animate Cora's ass and linger on it lovingly to titillate straight dudes, they're going an extra mile they'd never go for any other group and feeding into objectification of women in the process.
When they don't follow through on m/m improvements but take the time to add makeup to Sara because straight men complained she's ugly, that's feeding into misogynistic straight male fantasies that women are always peak fuckable all the time, even in wars and comas,
as demonstrated by countless apocalypse TV shows where all the women still have perfectly shaved body hair just to name one example.

That's what makes it stand out as incomparable to any other orientation.

Reyes doesn't get a scene where the camera lingers on his bare ass for ten minutes, and it never would. What gay men fantasise about isn't considered a priority whatsoever. What straight men fantasise about, no matter the sexist consequences that might entail, is priority number 1.

It does note on the tarot card of whoever you left that they're either dead or lost in the fade right? I wouldn't be surprised to see them again... maybe not Stroud? I dunno. 

I'm talking about my Warden and Alistair you fluffy ball 

Yeah and when you get the choice it implies they'll "likely" die.

Ah I see. That makes sense now. You did play MWarden with the mod right?

Yeah I agree because the others are kind of done already imo. Hawke has a purpose yet to be fulfilled. The DA2 ending was not exactly resolved in DAI, and though Hawke helps Varric rebuild, they still feel unfinished to me.

i agree, something is off. her words suggest that hawke should find peace or some kind of content through the great trials, but nothing in her/his story gives that conclusion. on the contrary, hawke constantly loses what they hold dear and often lacks clear purpose.
in fact, when that spirit of faith/compasion in the fade apologises to hawke for dissapointing her/him, hawke look very sad, a first genuine emotion since we meet him/her in dai. up to that point she/he is just an angy person doing what needs to be done, severely damaged and distrustful

My Warden and Alistair were my favourite, until the DA Keep came out and my canon could no longer exist, so now Alistair rules alone.  :sob:  I don't even use that Warden for imports anymore, made me too sad to see him as unromanced in the Keep.

i agree, something is off. her words suggest that hawke should find peace or some kind of content through the great trials, but nothing in her/his story gives that conclusion. on the contrary, hawke constantly loses what they hold dear and often lacks clear purpose.
in fact, when that spirit of faith/compasion in the fade apologises to hawke for dissapointing her/him, hawke look very sad (that was purposefully animated), a first genuine emotion since we meet him/her in dai, showing perhaps how hawke really feels inside. not glorious, simply doing what needs to be done, severely damaged and distrustful.

it seems really weird that that should end with dying in the fade. unless hawke would find this death/sacrifice a worthy end to a constant fighting? sigh. come on da4, be here already -.-