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Post by barderic on May 12, 2017 2:49:22 GMT
I just hate it when they tease as with this 'choice' like at least in ME1 and DAI we didn't see either option die. (I dread playing a certain chapter in SWTOR on new characters now because of the neck snap. Especially as they fucking teased us and made it look like we had a chance to save the person we didn't initially choose. It's just over used and feels often forced. I get that sometimes we can't always win and sacrifices must be made, but come the fuck on. I hate the overuse of it. I'd have much preferred that cut choice of being able to save both Kaidan and Ashley rather than the shitty sacrifice. Sure it has less impact and meaning, but I'm fed up of them making you choose who to lose/save and then doing nothing with either choice ever again. At least the Virmire survivor you saw more of them (though I'll forever be pissed that they were out of action for half the game in ME3.) I agree that it's pretty overused, especially by BioWare. I think maybe it might be worth while for them to look into ways to make the story feel like there is real threat and loss without it always coming down to a party member or squadmate. The loss of Haven is a strong point in DA:I for example. It puts some loss on the good guys, and it establishes the bad guy as a legitimate threat. It's just a shame that Corypheus didn't really have much presence in the plot after that until it came time to kill him. The attack on Haven was then da3 peaked for me, tbh. It's really the only time you actually have any significant setbacks, the only time Corypheus felt like a real threat, and the only time I actually got legitimately emotionally invested in the story. I really felt it when those side characters I'd spent the first how many hours of the game talking to and doing little quests for were in danger and/or died (I even reloaded a save because I was too slow to save Threnn the first time), and I'd actually gotten attached to Haven as a home base enough to feel it when I saw it burn. The rest of the main questline was just kinda blah once you reach Skyhold to me, and I never really felt the same attachment to Skyhold or to the new npcs who replaced the ones from Haven even if they survived. |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 12, 2017 2:49:44 GMT
I believe that she's basically a het-locked Reyes on that front. No, Avela doesn't lock out any of the others, whereas Reyes locks out half of them so functionally they're very different (and she's described in the codex as a flirtation rather than a relationship, so that's a distinction between the two of them as well). Het-locked means she's only for people playing hetero. |
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Post by raikas on May 12, 2017 2:53:17 GMT
No, Avela doesn't lock out any of the others, whereas Reyes locks out half of them so functionally they're very different (and she's described in the codex as a flirtation rather than a relationship, so that's a distinction between the two of them as well). Het-locked means she's only for people playing hetero. I know that. But by calling Avela the equivalent to Reyes (het-locked or no) that implies they're functionally the same when it comes to locking out other relationships. So yeah, Avela is only available to Scott, but she doesn't lock out any of Scott's options. Reyes is available to both, but does lock out some of the others, thus they're not actually equivalent. Since the original question was whether Avela locks out other options, that's what I was clarifying. |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 12, 2017 3:00:59 GMT
Het-locked means she's only for people playing hetero. I know that. But by calling Avela the equivalent to Reyes (het-locked or no) that implies they're functionally the same when it comes to locking out other relationships. So yeah, Avela is only available to Scott, but she doesn't lock out any of Scott's options. Reyes is available to both, but does lock out some of the others, thus they're not actually equivalent. Since the original question was whether Avela locks out other options, that's what I was clarifying. Ah, gotcha. |
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Post by Gilsa on May 12, 2017 3:19:17 GMT
I'm nearing the end of PT2 as Sara Ryder. - Romance #1 was Vetra
- Romance #2 was Peebee
Any suggestions for the next best romance for Sara for PT3, I'd like my achievement*?
*yes I know that's not yet available to all, hope that works out...I agree with cespar about Liam. If you liked him as a bro, then when he turns his focus from other people onto you, it's more of the same thoughtfulness, but better. I've heard Jaal is like a romance novel so if you like the idea of winning over an angarian Fabio, there's that, too. =p (I don't know enough about Suvi to know how to endorse her yet.) Re: The Abyss choice I've always left Hawke in the Fade. 1) I prefer to play as a dwarf because I like their lore, their culture. I don't mind playing as a human, but DA2 dropped the ball on multiple levels for dwarf fans. No dwarf female model (ow), barely any gossip about Orzammar, no dwarf romance. I had very little emotional attachment to Hawke. I liked the game fine, played it four times, but Hawke reminded me of my disappointment with the dwarf content so I was not conflicted when it came to making the choice of who to leave behind. I genuinely liked Stroud. 2) The mess the Grey Wardens created was one thing, but of all the situations to bring Hawke back for, this was it. Why? Had to be more than merely "to make a difficult choice." Which brings me to ... 3) You're familiar with Flemeth's quote: "We stand upon the precipice of change. The world fears the inevitable plummet into the abyss. Watch for that moment... and when it comes, do not hesitate to leap. It is only when you fall that you learn whether you can fly." My suspicion is that of the two choices, Hawke is more likely to survive the Abyss. If the Grey Warden is left behind, then they are probably doomed. I'll find out if I'm wrong soon enough. |
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Post by uirebhiril on May 12, 2017 3:50:33 GMT
2) The mess the Grey Wardens created was one thing, but of all the situations to bring Hawke back for, this was it. Why? Had to be more than merely "to make a difficult choice." That's another reason the Fade choice annoyed me. Why, again, was my Hawke just standing there eagerly awaiting her orders from the Inquisitor? Why was it anyone's choice to make but Hawke and/or the Warden? My Hawke was a lot of things, including willing to throw herself into danger if a situation called for it, but she's also not all-sacrificing and willing to just jump off a cliff because some relative stranger told her to. Having a choice to make was fine. Having that choice to make was less difficult and more "why." |
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Post by dgcatanisiri on May 12, 2017 4:01:11 GMT
Not to mention the STAGING of things, oh my god. The party rushes on ahead and for no apparent reason the Inquisitor, Hawke, and the Warden hang back, just long enough for the Nightmare to reappear all of a sudden. Which ALSO defeats the purpose of Justinia's sacrifice...
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Post by Steelcan on May 12, 2017 4:14:49 GMT
Not to mention the STAGING of things, oh my god. The party rushes on ahead and for no apparent reason the Inquisitor, Hawke, and the Warden hang back, just long enough for the Nightmare to reappear all of a sudden. Which ALSO defeats the purpose of Justinia's sacrifice... That decision was an utter mess all around. They really hamfisted the conflict between Hawke and the Warden as well. Really the only good parts of that entire sequence were when Loghain got to have his moment in the sun |
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Post by Catilina on May 12, 2017 4:49:33 GMT
I did not leave Hawke in the Fade. I don't see much logical reason, and Hawke is the best hero who ever born. Loghain is a good sacrifice material, and Stroud (despite hi marvelous mustache) virtually unknown.
But the whole decision was dumb.
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Post by toomanyclouds on May 12, 2017 5:14:44 GMT
I have a quick ME:A romance-related question: Does anyone know if Avela locks you out of other romances? From what I understand, she accepts that the relationship is one that can't be everything Ryder would need, given that they can't remain on Aya and she can't go with them, and you can still romance other characters I believe that she's basically a het-locked Reyes on that front. Though I could be wrong, I honestly refuse to take any het options in this game on a matter of principle, so this is just what I've gathered from others... Ah, good to know. I have to say, having seen the romance, it does seem a bit too actually romance-y to not be a lock-in. It's weird, it's definitely not enough content to actually count as a romance, but if someone I was with said the stuff Scott says to Avela, I think I'd start gravitating towards the airlock, especially since they end on a note of "no matter where you go, always come back for me." Anyway, I'm just kind of trying to figure out why they thought that romance was necessary. I kiiiind of get Keri in that she provides you with an opportunity to explicitly cheat on someone and that's a roleplaying choice that will tell you something about Ryder, at least (she says she asked the bartender to warn you if "you know who" comes by when you meet her at the Vortex). However, I haven't seen a version of the Avela romance where she acknowledges Scott is involved with someone else. Because for all the arguments that "we don't write characters with a spreadsheet in mind, there might not be an equal number of sexuality options available etc.", it does seem to me that the only reason the Avela romance exists is to be an answer to the question "but why can't straight Scott romance one of the cool new aliens?" Having looked at it I doubt it was someone's passion project, because the whole thing is exceedingly pointless and goes nowhere (and I say that as someone who actually really likes Avela as an NPC and thinks she's cute). |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 12, 2017 5:19:09 GMT
Just wanted to pop my head into the most recent page to see what was going on before catching up. Hello!
So today I booted up ME:A to do Movie Night again, since they apparently fixed the glitch where Ryder is invisible while cuddling with their romance (I need every scrap of Suvi content I can get, okay? Her romance is short and that's the most physical contact there is in it). Things didn't exactly go as expected...  I mean, she's not completely invisible now, so that's an improvement, right?  I'm wondering if it has to do with the fix for Sara's jacket clipping and the fact that her body model was under it before. If they removed the body model and the outfit didn't load correctly, that's what it would look like. I always knew Suvi didn't just love Sara for her body   I loaded up the save I kept before Movie Night and was all like:  So I went and talked to some people, but they didn't seem overly concerned.   But I suppose maybe it's not a big deal after all, I mean, she can still move stuff around. Biotics?   ♫ Lay your weary head to rest ♫ You may not feel your gallbladder Kallo, but I can't feel my... anything! Tangent: Why is Suvi the only person not to cheer or clap for you and Kallo during the less hammy version? This hurts me.And believe it or not, this isn't the first time this has happened to me. That's better.  Except for the fact that it looks like Sara hasn't showered in 10 days. It's okay, Sara, Suvi still loves you even if you're gross. I swear, that super shiny hair that will irk me forever. Good thing I took so many clips and screenshots before that patch  I see your Ryder found The Invisibility Cloak. Edit: Somehow missed your gif making that reference.  |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 12, 2017 5:29:45 GMT
From what I understand, she accepts that the relationship is one that can't be everything Ryder would need, given that they can't remain on Aya and she can't go with them, and you can still romance other characters I believe that she's basically a het-locked Reyes on that front. Though I could be wrong, I honestly refuse to take any het options in this game on a matter of principle, so this is just what I've gathered from others... Ah, good to know. I have to say, having seen the romance, it does seem a bit too actually romance-y to not be a lock-in. It's weird, it's definitely not enough content to actually count as a romance, but if someone I was with said the stuff Scott says to Avela, I think I'd start gravitating towards the airlock, especially since they end on a note of "no matter where you go, always come back for me." Anyway, I'm just kind of trying to figure out why they thought that romance was necessary. I kiiiind of get Keri in that she provides you with an opportunity to explicitly cheat on someone and that's a roleplaying choice that will tell you something about Ryder, at least (she says she asked the bartender to warn you if "you know who" comes by when you meet her at the Vortex). However, I haven't seen a version of the Avela romance where she acknowledges Scott is involved with someone else. Because for all the arguments that "we don't write characters with a spreadsheet in mind, there might not be an equal number of sexuality options available etc.", it does seem to me that the only reason the Avela romance exists is to be an answer to the question "but why can't straight Scott romance one of the cool new aliens?" Having looked at it I doubt it was someone's passion project, because the whole thing is exceedingly pointless and goes nowhere (and I say that as someone who actually really likes Avela as an NPC and thinks she's cute). If I were to guess, maybe it was to have an old-school civilian romance like the ones that exist in old movies, with the lady to stays at the place as the soldier/sailor goes off to serve but promises to return. That's never existed in a Bioware game before, or at least not Mass Effect, so maybe they saw it as an opportunity. |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 5:32:53 GMT
I always leave stroud for dead.
I only had logain once, but he died horribly.
In the case that I have warden Alistair I have a non-romanced Hawke that I let bite the big one, cause Alistair is my favorite DA:O character.
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 12, 2017 5:35:06 GMT
Ah, good to know. I have to say, having seen the romance, it does seem a bit too actually romance-y to not be a lock-in. It's weird, it's definitely not enough content to actually count as a romance, but if someone I was with said the stuff Scott says to Avela, I think I'd start gravitating towards the airlock, especially since they end on a note of "no matter where you go, always come back for me."
Anyway, I'm just kind of trying to figure out why they thought that romance was necessary. I kiiiind of get Keri in that she provides you with an opportunity to explicitly cheat on someone and that's a roleplaying choice that will tell you something about Ryder, at least (she says she asked the bartender to warn you if "you know who" comes by when you meet her at the Vortex). However, I haven't seen a version of the Avela romance where she acknowledges Scott is involved with someone else. Because for all the arguments that "we don't write characters with a spreadsheet in mind, there might not be an equal number of sexuality options available etc.", it does seem to me that the only reason the Avela romance exists is to be an answer to the question "but why can't straight Scott romance one of the cool new aliens?" Having looked at it I doubt it was someone's passion project, because the whole thing is exceedingly pointless and goes nowhere (and I say that as someone who actually really likes Avela as an NPC and thinks she's cute). Yepper. "Hm... well, we have Jaal for the ladies. I guess we'd better have a fem angara to bang for the dudes. Equality! It makes sense!" |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 5:54:44 GMT
Ah, good to know. I have to say, having seen the romance, it does seem a bit too actually romance-y to not be a lock-in. It's weird, it's definitely not enough content to actually count as a romance, but if someone I was with said the stuff Scott says to Avela, I think I'd start gravitating towards the airlock, especially since they end on a note of "no matter where you go, always come back for me."
Anyway, I'm just kind of trying to figure out why they thought that romance was necessary. I kiiiind of get Keri in that she provides you with an opportunity to explicitly cheat on someone and that's a roleplaying choice that will tell you something about Ryder, at least (she says she asked the bartender to warn you if "you know who" comes by when you meet her at the Vortex). However, I haven't seen a version of the Avela romance where she acknowledges Scott is involved with someone else. Because for all the arguments that "we don't write characters with a spreadsheet in mind, there might not be an equal number of sexuality options available etc.", it does seem to me that the only reason the Avela romance exists is to be an answer to the question "but why can't straight Scott romance one of the cool new aliens?" Having looked at it I doubt it was someone's passion project, because the whole thing is exceedingly pointless and goes nowhere (and I say that as someone who actually really likes Avela as an NPC and thinks she's cute). Yepper. "Hm... well, we have Jaal for the ladies. I guess we'd better have a fem angara to bang for the dudes. Equality! It makes sense!" Dude bros simply must have a scoop of every flavor of ice cream clearly. |
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 12, 2017 5:57:06 GMT
Yepper. "Hm... well, we have Jaal for the ladies. I guess we'd better have a fem angara to bang for the dudes. Equality! It makes sense!" Dude bros simply must have a scoop of every flavor of ice cream clearly. I'll keep my caramel Gil with a cherry on top, thx. They can have the rest. |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 6:01:49 GMT
Dude bros simply must have a scoop of every flavor of ice cream clearly. I'll keep my caramel Gil with a cherry on top, thx. They can have the rest. I wish I would have been as lucky as to fall for a character that's actually an option for me. Reyes is pretty close...but no cigar. |
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Post by toomanyclouds on May 12, 2017 6:04:08 GMT
Ah, good to know. I have to say, having seen the romance, it does seem a bit too actually romance-y to not be a lock-in. It's weird, it's definitely not enough content to actually count as a romance, but if someone I was with said the stuff Scott says to Avela, I think I'd start gravitating towards the airlock, especially since they end on a note of "no matter where you go, always come back for me." Anyway, I'm just kind of trying to figure out why they thought that romance was necessary. I kiiiind of get Keri in that she provides you with an opportunity to explicitly cheat on someone and that's a roleplaying choice that will tell you something about Ryder, at least (she says she asked the bartender to warn you if "you know who" comes by when you meet her at the Vortex). However, I haven't seen a version of the Avela romance where she acknowledges Scott is involved with someone else. Because for all the arguments that "we don't write characters with a spreadsheet in mind, there might not be an equal number of sexuality options available etc.", it does seem to me that the only reason the Avela romance exists is to be an answer to the question "but why can't straight Scott romance one of the cool new aliens?" Having looked at it I doubt it was someone's passion project, because the whole thing is exceedingly pointless and goes nowhere (and I say that as someone who actually really likes Avela as an NPC and thinks she's cute). If I were to guess, it was to have an old-school civilian romance like the ones that exist in old movies, with the lady to stays at the place as the soldier/sailor goes off to serve but promises to return. That's never existed in a Bioware game before, or at least not Mass Effect, so maybe they saw it as an opportunity. It's possible! Certainly a trope that kind of works here, although she's the one who sends Ryder away. However, then I think they should have devoted a little more time to it, as it is, it just kind of seems like it never really gets off the ground and stays in a strange in-between stage: too little sex to be a fling, too much romantic talk to be only fun flirting, too little romance for it to be a relationship. Not that I think yet another heterosexual romance is really the one that needs more dev attention, but I kind of wish that if they do it at all, they'd do it right, or otherwise just reassign the resources. |
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Post by dgcatanisiri on May 12, 2017 6:06:00 GMT
Ah, good to know. I have to say, having seen the romance, it does seem a bit too actually romance-y to not be a lock-in. It's weird, it's definitely not enough content to actually count as a romance, but if someone I was with said the stuff Scott says to Avela, I think I'd start gravitating towards the airlock, especially since they end on a note of "no matter where you go, always come back for me."
Anyway, I'm just kind of trying to figure out why they thought that romance was necessary. I kiiiind of get Keri in that she provides you with an opportunity to explicitly cheat on someone and that's a roleplaying choice that will tell you something about Ryder, at least (she says she asked the bartender to warn you if "you know who" comes by when you meet her at the Vortex). However, I haven't seen a version of the Avela romance where she acknowledges Scott is involved with someone else. Because for all the arguments that "we don't write characters with a spreadsheet in mind, there might not be an equal number of sexuality options available etc.", it does seem to me that the only reason the Avela romance exists is to be an answer to the question "but why can't straight Scott romance one of the cool new aliens?" Having looked at it I doubt it was someone's passion project, because the whole thing is exceedingly pointless and goes nowhere (and I say that as someone who actually really likes Avela as an NPC and thinks she's cute). Yepper. "Hm... well, we have Jaal for the ladies. I guess we'd better have a fem angara to bang for the dudes. Equality! It makes sense!" Yeah, that's about all the logic I can see for it. And, of course, cut the male romance for Jaal, cuz we don't want the straight dudes to get all creeped out by the possibility of someone - a MALE someone - taking that flirt option with the guy... I love these games, but hate so many of the decisions they make... |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 12, 2017 6:08:42 GMT
If I were to guess, it was to have an old-school civilian romance like the ones that exist in old movies, with the lady to stays at the place as the soldier/sailor goes off to serve but promises to return. That's never existed in a Bioware game before, or at least not Mass Effect, so maybe they saw it as an opportunity. It's possible! Certainly a trope that kind of works here, although she's the one who sends Ryder away. However, then I think they should have devoted a little more time to it, as it is, it just kind of seems like it never really gets off the ground and stays in a strange in-between stage: too little sex to be al fling, too much romantic talk to be only fun flirting, too little romance for it to be a relationship. Not that I think yet another heterosexual romance is really the one that needs more dev attention, but I kind of wish that if they do it at all, they'd do it right, or otherwise just reassign the resources. True, though maybe that was the twist on that kind of storyline they did for this romance. They've done that with other old-school kinds of romances, like Josephine reacting to the Inquisitor dueling Otranto in a way different than most romances that involve dueling. I agree, though maybe they had plans for her to be a bigger character at some point, either in this game or in the DLC or sequels(sort of like how Reyes seems to have more in store for him) and the relationship would continue and evolve there or the resources for the rest of the romance got moved elsewhere. |
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Post by MrSlothy on May 12, 2017 7:25:20 GMT
Wow I had never considered all that. Thanks for that new perspective! i'm happy if it contributes  thedas lore and characters are so rich. took until dai to really kick off, but now i'm loving it i know! it's really touching especially given the context. the way it's written and animated looks like the spirit apologizes to hawke for all that they went through, not just for being something other than justinia. and i might add, that was long overdue, hawke's choice of lovers was not a stellar one. quite a few self-absorbed people there  Wow! It's nice to talk to someone who has similar thoughts to me haha I've been questioning the whole Fade thing and Hawke since day 1! back at you! the games are full of food-for-thoughts situations like this one. i recently finished a first proper templar-supporting rogue PT and was amazed how different many of the details felt. for the first time i really liked vivienne (but still made sure she's not the divine) and was really moved by the human-like cole (too bad i really believe he should remain more spirit-like). i guess i have two cannon PTs now |
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Post by BansheeOwnage on May 12, 2017 8:19:09 GMT
Just wanted to pop my head into the most recent page to see what was going on before catching up. Hello!
So today I booted up ME:A to do Movie Night again, since they apparently fixed the glitch where Ryder is invisible while cuddling with their romance (I need every scrap of Suvi content I can get, okay? Her romance is short and that's the most physical contact there is in it). Things didn't exactly go as expected... *snip* LOL! That is too funny. Also slightly creepy. Definitely both of those things Better than a headless body though, I'd say. Gah, I wish it survived for more than one save, there was only so much I could do with it. Would have been hysterical in a romance scene, for instance 3) You're familiar with Flemeth's quote: "We stand upon the precipice of change. The world fears the inevitable plummet into the abyss. Watch for that moment... and when it comes, do not hesitate to leap. It is only when you fall that you learn whether you can fly." My suspicion is that of the two choices, Hawke is more likely to survive the Abyss. If the Grey Warden is left behind, then they are probably doomed. I'll find out if I'm wrong soon enough. Ah, right, I forgot to mention that in my post! That's the reason I thought Hawke might survive in the first place. "Here lies the abyss". Anyway, I'm just kind of trying to figure out why they thought that romance was necessary. I kiiiind of get Keri in that she provides you with an opportunity to explicitly cheat on someone and that's a roleplaying choice that will tell you something about Ryder, at least (she says she asked the bartender to warn you if "you know who" comes by when you meet her at the Vortex). However, I haven't seen a version of the Avela romance where she acknowledges Scott is involved with someone else. Because for all the arguments that "we don't write characters with a spreadsheet in mind, there might not be an equal number of sexuality options available etc.", it does seem to me that the only reason the Avela romance exists is to be an answer to the question "but why can't straight Scott romance one of the cool new aliens?" Having looked at it I doubt it was someone's passion project, because the whole thing is exceedingly pointless and goes nowhere (and I say that as someone who actually really likes Avela as an NPC and thinks she's cute). Seems that way. Too bad the angaran romances are straight-only, not that I really care at a personal level. Does Avela even have many animations where she comes into contact with Scott? I feel like it probably wouldn't have been too hard to make her an option for Sara, too. But then only gay men wouldn't get an angara. You know, unless they had bi Jaal. They wanted to show that angara aren't homophobic but didn't have any same-sex options with them, nor do we actually see any angara in a same-sex relationship. Just wanted to pop my head into the most recent page to see what was going on before catching up. Hello!
So today I booted up ME:A to do Movie Night again, since they apparently fixed the glitch where Ryder is invisible while cuddling with their romance (I need every scrap of Suvi content I can get, okay? Her romance is short and that's the most physical contact there is in it). Things didn't exactly go as expected... I loaded up the save I kept before Movie Night and was all like: I see your Ryder found The Invisibility Cloak. Edit: Somehow missed your gif making that reference. Indeed, she even makes the same "looking down at my body" motion that Harry does  Ha, that's okay, I missed my own unintentional à propos pun. Bolded. Yepper. "Hm... well, we have Jaal for the ladies. I guess we'd better have a fem angara to bang for the dudes. Equality! It makes sense!" Dude bros simply must have a scoop of every flavor of ice cream clearly. Mmh, ice cream! Yeah. Next time you see a human, ask them about ice cream. I like ice cream. I like licking ice cream. And rocks. And other things. It's clearly past my bed time. Also, lol@ Fryda Wolff's comment on that video. When does that scene happen? Nightscrawl If Gil is caramel, what flavour is Suvi? I want to say strawberry but maybe that's just because it would sound good in a Scottish accent. And other characters? |
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Post by toomanyclouds on May 12, 2017 8:29:09 GMT
Anyway, I'm just kind of trying to figure out why they thought that romance was necessary. I kiiiind of get Keri in that she provides you with an opportunity to explicitly cheat on someone and that's a roleplaying choice that will tell you something about Ryder, at least (she says she asked the bartender to warn you if "you know who" comes by when you meet her at the Vortex). However, I haven't seen a version of the Avela romance where she acknowledges Scott is involved with someone else. Because for all the arguments that "we don't write characters with a spreadsheet in mind, there might not be an equal number of sexuality options available etc.", it does seem to me that the only reason the Avela romance exists is to be an answer to the question "but why can't straight Scott romance one of the cool new aliens?" Having looked at it I doubt it was someone's passion project, because the whole thing is exceedingly pointless and goes nowhere (and I say that as someone who actually really likes Avela as an NPC and thinks she's cute). Seems that way. Too bad the angaran romances are straight-only, not that I really care at a personal level. Does Avela even have many animations where she comes into contact with Scott? I feel like it probably wouldn't have been too hard to make her an option for Sara, too. But then only gay men wouldn't get an angara. You know, unless they had bi Jaal. They wanted to show that angara aren't homophobic but didn't have any same-sex options with them, nor do we actually see any angara in a same-sex relationship. She moves in for a kiss, for which I assume they would have had to change the model, since Sara has a different height, but that doesn't seem like it would take too much work, since it's a very short and static moment. Otherwise the romance is quite bare-bones, just a few conversations, nothing that couldn't have been translated for a same-sex romance. Most lines probably wouldn't have to be rerecorded at all, except maybe in other languages that are bigger on working gender into grammar than English. But we totally get that extremely missable bulletin board message about the gay married angara! Important lore content. |
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Post by farferello on May 12, 2017 8:33:58 GMT
farferello The neck snap scene you are referring to literally broke me. I thought... I thought I -had- to save a certain somebody because I needed their support, and, if I didn't,, I would be a coward and lack honor. I thought I could save my Sith Warrior's best friend after... that this person would last long enough for me to save them. When Vaylin tossed their dead body to me, I was in a tearful rage. It was terrible. Terrible. I played it through first on my Warrior who picked his choice based on the fact she was like a sister to him. Seeing it play out, thinking I had the chance to save the other one - when Vaylin tossed them to his feet I was definitely a little messed up.  Now on other characters I just have to space bar through the scene. I just hate that those two along with the others who can possibly die (Jorgan, Kaliyo, Koth, Quinn) pretty much have no dialogue anymore after the fact. I dread some of my favourites returning because I know they'll likely end up mute. |
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2017 8:34:37 GMT
Reyes ice cream type is cookie dough. <.< >.> He's delicious and still needs baking. Get it? I'll be over there....
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I'm wondering if it has to do with the fix for Sara's jacket clipping and the fact that her body model was under it before. If they removed the body model and the outfit didn't load correctly, that's what it would look like.
thedas lore and characters are so rich. took until dai to really kick off, but now i'm loving it
Ha, that's okay, I missed my own unintentional à propos pun. Bolded.
Now on other characters I just have to space bar through the scene. I just hate that those two along with the others who can possibly die (Jorgan, Kaliyo, Koth, Quinn) pretty much have no dialogue anymore after the fact. I dread some of my favourites returning because I know they'll likely end up mute.