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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 22:59:45 GMT
Nox @noxfauna @gamblemike will the next patch be within the 2 week deadline you set or will u need more time? Asking for myself and friends at #MakeJaalbi
Michael Gamble @gamblemike When it's ready
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Post by Ryzaki on May 15, 2017 23:01:47 GMT
Also the thorian. A sentient giant plant thing is about as alien as it gets. Also thorian > Leviathans and should've factored into the Reaper backstory somehow. Oh yeah I always forgot about that thing because I always murder it XD
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Post by dgcatanisiri on May 15, 2017 23:06:32 GMT
So speaking of LGBT content and gayaliens does anyone else think that the Anagarians were a wasted opportunity? I'm not talking about Jaal being bi, I'm taking about how their reincarnation gimmick (and it is pretty much just a colorful gimmick in MEA) could have actually made them distinct and interesting. The Mass Effect series has always had a problem of the main alien races essentially being humans with a mildly different humanoid appearance and some weird gimmick. The Asari are all women and have a nonsensical reproductive systems. The turians are bird people that are very militaristic. The salarians live a short time and are smart and sneaky. Even the krogan are just an over exaggeration of ancient tribal warrior cultures. Imagine a race of beings who never truly die and just reincarnate back to live with all their past memories and experiences intact. How does one navigate sexuality, gender and identity when they've literally been several different people? It could have been great but instead we just get noble savages that we must save from the Space-Nazis/British Empire. Honestly, now that I think about it the Anagarians are pretty much the Protheans when they were still around fighting the Reapers. Ugh. Missed opportunity, Bioware. To be fair (yes, I know, I'm surprised I'm doing so too), this can easily be something that they want to focus on in successive games, explaining it more as we learn more about the Jardaan and their creation of the angara. It's less a 'missed opportunity' and more a piece of a story that hasn't been concluded yet. And, before anyone brings it up again, nothing about this supposed 'hiatus' can not be explained by standard operating procedure for a company post-release of a game and with two games already in development. We'll see another Mass Effect.
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Post by kestrel on May 15, 2017 23:09:11 GMT
Even the thorian used a requisite sexy asari lady as a mouthpiece.
Never 4get.
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Post by Ark on May 15, 2017 23:11:28 GMT
Even the thorian used a requisite sexy asari lady as a mouthpiece. Never 4get. Who wouldn't want to assimilate that?
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 15, 2017 23:15:19 GMT
To be fair (yes, I know, I'm surprised I'm doing so too), this can easily be something that they want to focus on in successive games, explaining it more as we learn more about the Jardaan and their creation of the angara. It's less a 'missed opportunity' and more a piece of a story that hasn't been concluded yet. And, before anyone brings it up again, nothing about this supposed 'hiatus' can not be explained by standard operating procedure for a company post-release of a game and with two games already in development. We'll see another Mass Effect. That is definitely how it felt to me as well. These are hinted bits that are being left to explore at a later date. MEA had a really specific focus: for the Milky Way travelers to find new homes. Other stuff got in the way, like the kett and the Archon; new groups were discovered, like the angara and the remnant; but we did reach that goal. Now it's time to move on to other things and other goals. I can definitely see them building on the seeds they planted in MEA. Additionally, we know that the other ark is out there, with many of the other Milky Way species, and I fully expect that to be the focus of an entire DLC.
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Post by Sable Rhapsody on May 15, 2017 23:19:29 GMT
Even the thorian used a requisite sexy asari lady as a mouthpiece. Never 4get. So did the rachni queen. Until she got her tentacles into the superior mouthpieces: a krogan combat squad
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Post by dhalion on May 15, 2017 23:33:41 GMT
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Post by cespar on May 15, 2017 23:40:12 GMT
Nox @noxfauna @gamblemike will the next patch be within the 2 week deadline you set or will u need more time? Asking for myself and friends at #MakeJaalbi Michael Gamble @gamblemikeWhen it's ready I wonder why people want them to rush it? So that they can complain that it was rushed just to shut them up? Or rather for him to tell a date they know they can't meet? You can't know exactly when you will be done with something unless you have a deadline to meet. The #makejaalbi's voices have been heard. They are working on something, and just from their previous patches, it will be some kind of improvement. But I'm super curious exactly how they're going to improve the m/my situation.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 23:41:56 GMT
Nox @noxfauna @gamblemike will the next patch be within the 2 week deadline you set or will u need more time? Asking for myself and friends at #MakeJaalbi Michael Gamble @gamblemikeWhen it's ready I wonder why people want them to rush it? So that they can complain that it was rushed just to shut them up? Or rather for him to tell a date they know they can't meet? You can't know exactly when you will be done with something unless you have a deadline to meet. The #makejaalbi's voices have been heard. They are working on something, and just from their previous patches, it will be some kind of improvement. But I'm super curious exactly how they're going to improve the m/my situation. Actually the m/m demand is less than the CC and that's been rushed the most by fans, so I hope they don't go and bring it out with nothing worth using due to pressure.
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Post by cespar on May 15, 2017 23:45:26 GMT
I wonder why people want them to rush it? So that they can complain that it was rushed just to shut them up? Or rather for him to tell a date they know they can't meet? You can't know exactly when you will be done with something unless you have a deadline to meet. The #makejaalbi's voices have been heard. They are working on something, and just from their previous patches, it will be some kind of improvement. But I'm super curious exactly how they're going to improve the m/my situation. Actually the m/m demand is less than the CC and that's been rushed the most by fans, so I hope they don't go and bring it out with nothing worth using due to pressure. Well those people need to stop rushing that too. Sometimes, I believe people like the rushed stuff better, but then I remember how much people were complaining about DA2 on the old old forums.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 23:47:59 GMT
Actually the m/m demand is less than the CC and that's been rushed the most by fans, so I hope they don't go and bring it out with nothing worth using due to pressure. Well those people need to stop rushing that too. Sometimes, I believe people like the rushed stuff better, but then I remember how much people were complaining about DA2 on the old old forums. Many have put off playing the game until they can get proper CC, so I guess they want to play, but refuse to work with what they have for now. I'm just going to keep playing and keep updating and hope they don't break the game lol right now it seems Nomad banter is in reversal since the latest patch.
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 15, 2017 23:55:22 GMT
Nox @noxfauna @gamblemike will the next patch be within the 2 week deadline you set or will u need more time? Asking for myself and friends at #MakeJaalbi Michael Gamble @gamblemikeWhen it's ready I wonder why people want them to rush it? So that they can complain that it was rushed just to shut them up? Or rather for him to tell a date they know they can't meet? You can't know exactly when you will be done with something unless you have a deadline to meet. The #makejaalbi's voices have been heard. They are working on something, and just from their previous patches, it will be some kind of improvement. But I'm super curious exactly how they're going to improve the m/my situation. Because decent m/m content should have been in the base game to begin with. >.< I want to have a quality patch, too, but I can't blame folks for being impatient, especially since they aren't giving anything at all in the way of what we can expect. I support bi Jaal as a matter of fairness, but that doesn't interest me personally, as I am a Gil-mancer. Sadly, the only thing I'm expecting as a Gil-mancer is perhaps a polishing and partial inclusion of the sex scene, and also maybe *fingers crossed* a Meridian kiss that doesn't hinge on the baby choice (I'm still pissed about this). Those are the only realistic expectations and hopes that I have. Anything more would be a bonus.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 23:56:54 GMT
Huh... I think the cinematics for Cora's LM has changed too. I'm getting zoomed in close-ups of Cora's face now. Too close imo.
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Post by cespar on May 15, 2017 23:57:13 GMT
Well those people need to stop rushing that too. Sometimes, I believe people like the rushed stuff better, but then I remember how much people were complaining about DA2 on the old old forums. Many have put off playing the game until they can get proper CC, so I guess they want to play, but refuse to work with what they have for now. I'm just going to keep playing and keep updating and hope they don't break the game lol right now it seems Nomad banter is in reversal since the latest patch. Lol they should've just stole Inquisition's CC. But keep the colors for the hair in Andromeda. Yeah, I'll do the same. Even with the flaws, I'm still enjoying Andromeda. Of course while waiting for my beloved Dragon Age series to return.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 23:58:52 GMT
Many have put off playing the game until they can get proper CC, so I guess they want to play, but refuse to work with what they have for now. I'm just going to keep playing and keep updating and hope they don't break the game lol right now it seems Nomad banter is in reversal since the latest patch. Lol they should've just stole Inquisition's CC. But keep the colors for the hair in Andromeda. Yeah, I'll do the same. Even with the flaws, I'm still enjoying Andromeda. Of course while waiting for my beloved Dragon Age series to return. I will never forgive ME3 for removing natural Auburn hair. I am so glad we got that in both DAI and MEA! I'd like to change the eyebrow colors of my CC Sara's though.
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Post by Dirk on May 16, 2017 0:02:46 GMT
I wonder why people want them to rush it? So that they can complain that it was rushed just to shut them up? Or rather for him to tell a date they know they can't meet? You can't know exactly when you will be done with something unless you have a deadline to meet. The #makejaalbi's voices have been heard. They are working on something, and just from their previous patches, it will be some kind of improvement. But I'm super curious exactly how they're going to improve the m/my situation. Because decent m/m content should have been in the base game to begin with. >.< I want to have a quality patch, too, but I can't blame folks for being impatient, especially since they aren't giving anything at all in the way of what we can expect. I support bi Jaal as a matter of fairness, but that doesn't interest me personally, as I am a Gil-mancer. Sadly, the only thing I'm expecting as a Gil-mancer is perhaps a polishing and partial inclusion of the sex scene, and also maybe *fingers crossed* a Meridian kiss that doesn't hinge on the baby choice (I'm still pissed about this). Those are the only realistic expectations and hopes that I have. Anything more would be a bonus. I would be fine with some description on the plan m/m romance improvement. Right now we have no ideas what they are going to do. A tentative date of the patch release might be helpful too (just make sure it is clear that it's tentative). Basically we have not heard much communication from them regarding the romance fix. Also, it didn't help that the last time they were silent on the m/m romance, it turned out that it was shitty. So their silence this time around did not inspire much confidence in them.
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 16, 2017 0:03:56 GMT
Many have put off playing the game until they can get proper CC, so I guess they want to play, but refuse to work with what they have for now. I'm just going to keep playing and keep updating and hope they don't break the game lol right now it seems Nomad banter is in reversal since the latest patch. Lol they should've just stole Inquisition's CC. But keep the colors for the hair in Andromeda. Yeah, I'll do the same. Even with the flaws, I'm still enjoying Andromeda. Of course while waiting for my beloved Dragon Age series to return. Well, if your avatar is anything to go by, you certainly did make use of the vibrant colors! (Wtb rainbow emote.)
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Post by cespar on May 16, 2017 0:05:00 GMT
I wonder why people want them to rush it? So that they can complain that it was rushed just to shut them up? Or rather for him to tell a date they know they can't meet? You can't know exactly when you will be done with something unless you have a deadline to meet. The #makejaalbi's voices have been heard. They are working on something, and just from their previous patches, it will be some kind of improvement. But I'm super curious exactly how they're going to improve the m/my situation. Because decent m/m content should have been in the base game to begin with. >.< I want to have a quality patch, too, but I can't blame folks for being impatient, especially since they aren't giving anything at all in the way of what we can expect. I support bi Jaal as a matter of fairness, but that doesn't interest me personally, as I am a Gil-mancer. Sadly, the only thing I'm expecting as a Gil-mancer is perhaps a polishing and partial inclusion of the sex scene, and also maybe *fingers crossed* a Meridian kiss that doesn't hinge on the baby choice (I'm still pissed about this). Those are the only realistic expectations and hopes that I have. Anything more would be a bonus. Unfortunately, it was not. So it is no point in banging your (not you, just in general) head against a wall over and over. They are fixing their mess. It's either the waiting game or moving on. Twitter fingers won't make the improvements be out any faster.
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Post by cespar on May 16, 2017 0:10:22 GMT
Lol they should've just stole Inquisition's CC. But keep the colors for the hair in Andromeda. Yeah, I'll do the same. Even with the flaws, I'm still enjoying Andromeda. Of course while waiting for my beloved Dragon Age series to return. Well, if your avatar is anything to go by, you certainly did make use of the vibrant colors! (Wtb rainbow emote.) I love love love blue. No game I have played has allowed me to experience this deep color of blue. I'm eternally grateful for Andromeda for this. At first, it didn't work with the earlier black characters that I made, but turns out I just need to fix the characters' face. Now I'm in love with my Scott and Sara. 💙💙💙
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2017 0:13:12 GMT
Well, if your avatar is anything to go by, you certainly did make use of the vibrant colors! (Wtb rainbow emote.) I love love love blue. No game I have played has allowed me to experience this deep color of blue. I'm eternally grateful for Andromeda for this. At first, it didn't work with the earlier black characters that I made, but turns out I just need to fix the characters' face. Now I'm in love with my Scott and Sara. 💙💙💙 In the Jaal thread I pointed out that all the pastel colors in this game intentionally match Angara skin tones lol
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Post by dgcatanisiri on May 16, 2017 0:24:35 GMT
The big depressing thing about this is that... Lack of transparency was the problem in the first place. Like, I understand not saying as much in order to not promise something that you can't deliver, be it beyond your means or attempting to do so caused the game to crash or anything in between, but the situation we're in could have been mitigated with more transparency on their parts in the first place. Talking about 'improvements' in such vague terms is really not helpful, both for us, because we build unreasonable expectations, and for them, because the things they call improvements might not actually manage to 'improve' anything - a lot of the issues are on a content level, and that takes time and effort and money to fix. So are they doing ANYTHING in that direction, or are they just going with the things they have available to them now? I would assume the latter, which makes me temper my expectations (while still remaining angry we're in this situation in the first place), but the former would be genuinely showing that this was a mistake they are taking pains to fix.
Like I said, I do understand the quiet on their part, but it's really not helping their case. Granted, it's pretty much a no-win scenario at this point, but it's a no-win scenario of their own making.
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Post by Ark on May 16, 2017 0:27:17 GMT
Because decent m/m content should have been in the base game to begin with. >.< I want to have a quality patch, too, but I can't blame folks for being impatient, especially since they aren't giving anything at all in the way of what we can expect. I support bi Jaal as a matter of fairness, but that doesn't interest me personally, as I am a Gil-mancer. Sadly, the only thing I'm expecting as a Gil-mancer is perhaps a polishing and partial inclusion of the sex scene, and also maybe *fingers crossed* a Meridian kiss that doesn't hinge on the baby choice (I'm still pissed about this). Those are the only realistic expectations and hopes that I have. Anything more would be a bonus. I would be fine with some description on the plan m/m romance improvement. Right now we have no ideas what they are going to do.A tentative date of the patch release might be helpful too (just make sure it is clear that it's tentative). Basically we have not heard much communication from them regarding the romance fix. Also, it didn't help that the last time they were silent on the m/m romance, it turned out that it was shitty. So their silence this time around did not inspire much confidence in them. This 10x Im not so much impatient for the patch, as I am for some sort of statement as to what options are on the table to begin with.
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Post by Walter Black on May 16, 2017 0:33:21 GMT
Don't mind me, just catching up. I think LGBT people's opinion on what is homophobia is a little more important than a straight person's opinion on what is homophobia. Just putting that out there. I want this printed and framed, tbh. Yes, but if you take this approach to it's logical extreme, you'll get the gay version of N7/Cloud 9.
Then again, he has posted links to futanari and such...
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Post by cespar on May 16, 2017 0:40:06 GMT
I love love love blue. No game I have played has allowed me to experience this deep color of blue. I'm eternally grateful for Andromeda for this. At first, it didn't work with the earlier black characters that I made, but turns out I just need to fix the characters' face. Now I'm in love with my Scott and Sara. 💙💙💙 In the Jaal thread I pointed out that all the pastel colors in this game intentionally match Angara skin tones lol Oh yeah. I saw your Sara with pastel pink hair. She went really well with Jaal. Also, I really liked your Asian Sara with the light blue hair.
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