The Character Romance thread (Official)

I agree...this complete lack of information has to end soon. If the patch doesn't fix things to a great extent, we can't just let it go either. We have to get right back to letting them know what is still wrong in the game if they don't really make a huge effort that goes above and beyond expectations.

Gil, sweetheart.. would you maybe please shut it with those "triggered," memes please?
you too, BansheeOwnage??
Pls, do it for me? Or at least idk, take it down a notch?
(i.e your weekly "triggered" meme contingent is now eaten up)
I'm a speshul snowflake who lacks the ability to find memes that make a state of high emotional distress a joke..
Its similar to the "autistic screeching" memes(and 'we' talked about that a bit over...

I trust ya to be not asses about this..pls
thx

At least give us approximate time where the m/m romance patch will land and with what improvement. I mean the patch is coming out at some point anyway, dragging us along with no info is just queer baiting at this point. 

To ME:A devs who are behind this decision:

They may be silent because they don't know how to improve the situation. I don't know how they got themselves in this mess. Was it a lack of foresight or misunderstanding of their fanbase (that happens a lot with Bioware actually) or the people that make those decisions didn't care, but as it is now, no matter what they do, someone will be angry. Not like keeping silent about the matter makes it better but I'm not surprised that they're hesitating to say anything.

I heard that Jaal's romance has scenes that are specifically made for females and they would look strange with males but I haven't played his romance so I have no idea how much of those rumors are true. The thing about making Jaal bi that surprised me the most was the anger that the female players that did and liked his romance show at the prospect of making him bi. Some comments I read make it seem like they take it very personally. I keep wondering why. The only reason I can think of is that they're afraid that Bioware is going to alter Jaal's scenes in the f/m romance too but I see no reason why Bioware would do that.

Personally, I have no problem in making Jaal be... if BioWare devs so decide, so be it. Even if I'm not much a fan of having a character "change" sexualty via patch. If there is a chance for implementing a new romance path with a new character and the same amount of content, I would prefer it. Otherwise, no biggie from me.

I personally don't even like mods that change the sexuality of characters (no matter the character sexuality: I don't like a mod to make, say, Dorian interested in women just as I don't like one to make Sera like man, or Blackwall like guys etc.) Is something I would not use anyway, and just play a character of the sex those characters are attracted to. If the situation wasn't so unequal, I don't think I would be ok with a Bi-Jall-via-patch. But it seem the most convenient solution.

I find stupid that no devs have thought about having a bi male in the team, however.

I guess for some girls is not really easy to let go of the one romance that seem tailored for them (for what I have read, is the only male romance with a good quantity of content, and actual sex scene, please correct me if I'm wrong) and I think some women have the bad taste left by certain disadventure that happened to other women, basically used by certain gay man as "cover" for their homosexuality. No one ever think to those women that basically find that have lived a good part of their lives in a lie with a man that they loved dearly, but never loved them back, and basically lied to them from the very first instant they met. I have know a woman who had this happening to her, and she now have a lot of trust issues.

Not tryng to justify some behaviour, just putting in a possibile motivation given by some stuff I've seen in my life.

Well, the Reyes scenes seem to be geared towards Sara and look awkward with Scott, but the option is there. And really, are we still accepting the "quality" argument when Montreal is effectively doing QA post-launch? 

*sigh*

i expected better, you know? like you *know* that shit, dont you?
its really quite fascinating how one can expect others to do something oneself isnt open to do themselves, because,, "its different this time"
still, i cant force you to get why that shit isnt funny, as we will not be able to get other people to get why casual homophobia isnt funny either

Maybe I should block you then. It should stop my posts from showing up. Spare your feelings.

Maybe their parents were in this situation? It's not an uncommon fear for girls. Just right after the fear of the boyfrind ceating with their best girlfriend or sister, there is "he is actually gay and you are a failure as a woman".  Plus in most media when such situation is presented, the focus is always on the male part, and usually the woman is at beast ignored or depicted as a horrible person to "justify" the cheating and emphasize the "oh finally I've embraced being gay". I frankly don't remember any show where is given any kind of thought about the woman perspective, outside "le fate ignoranti", an italian movie.

Never said is a justification. And frankly I sort of understand (even if I don't agree) wishing to keep Jaal ethero. As the principal romance for women (presented even in a trailer) can be a little irritating having him patched up and became bi.