The Character Romance thread (Official)

Teehee, I'm ten years older than you.

WHEN I WAS YOUR AGE AVEN WAS NEW AND GAY/STRAIGHT ALLIANCE CLUBS WERE FOR BABY HIPSTERS.

...Also I was accidentally romancing Juhani like a boss. -sniff- She was my first. Though I completely didn't notice. Hilarious in retrospect, though.

Aww, you're so kind, thank you

Yeah, I still have faith in the DA team. I definitely consider them more likely to understand why we aren't happy and not just that we aren't happy. And they seem to have more LGBT and ally writers.

Though at the same time, as TooManyClouds said, we just saw a series regress (with some DA writers working on it), so anything is possible.

Plus, a lot of LGBT players may not know there are are different branches of Bioware and that ME:A was made by a different one than DA:I or ME3.

The problem is that there is little precedent for the term 'on schedule'.
We have a general idea of how long 'soon', 'very soon' and 'fairly soon' are... (<2 weeks, this week, this month)

It's been a while, but I think those picture of Scott being "romanced" by Gil were just extremely good photoshops of the Cora scene done by Exca. He's hella talented. I'm sure someone else kept the receipts and say for sure though. 

BioWare sucks generally at understanding how incredibly reprehensible and damaging certain actions are. Celene legit committed an act of genocide in Masked Empire, and they seem to think Briala can magically get over that because "You kept my ring? D'awww."

But BioWare lets you commit acts of genocide against the elves on the reg, so either they really love genocide or they really hate elves.

Hm.... I hadn't thought of it that way before, but I can see that you're right in some ways.

I will add that the "take it slow" option isn't really take it slow, since you still have sex, with naked post-sex pillow talk and everything. The only thing that changes is Scott's response about "not slamming on the breaks." It seemed to me that Scott's response would lead to a nice makeout session. I fully expected the take it slow option to actually have no sex, just like Dorian's did. They just left out a whole path there, even though there is an option for it.

So.. he notices you cheat at poker if you romance him? I didn't romance him and cheated at poker and he just never noticed and it never got mentioned again. lol

Yeah, he says "I know you cheated in poker, and I would too, but I want our relationship to be honest." Never mind Ryder's flings and flirts across the Galaxy, poker mattered. I was fully prepared to bring up the delicate subject of a certain man on Kadara, but I did not get see Vasco lie through his teeth. It was all in the cards, I guess.

The elven genocide thing I could almost see Briala forgiving - she's very pragmatic, and Celene had political motivations. Not excusing it, but I could look at it from that angle. The bigger issue is that Celene murdered Briala's parents (to impress her mentor, who trained her in assassination techniques). And if I remember right, their relationship turned romantic when Celene comforted Briala after she found the bodies. It's super fucked up... But you wouldn't know about it if you didn't read the book. It's pretty twisted that the game encourages you to reconcile them. I either keep Celene in power or force everyone to work together for the sake of Orlais, but she's a pretty terrible person. And it is unfortunate that this is one of the few significant same sex relationships in the game's lore - and I think that's the problem. I'm all for dark plotlines and ugly, complex relationships, but there should be more examples of healthy, happy ones to offset it... Though to be fair, I can think of few (any?) straight relationships like that in the DA world... All the ones I can think of are either unhealthy (though Celene and Briala take the cake) or one/both of them die or are dead to begin with.

If there was an option to have Celene and Gaspard killed while Briala rules alone, I would take it. But instead I have Celene and Briala get back together because that seems like it'll have the best outcome for the elves going forward.

Maybe Gil does, but it is way too sudden, completely out of nowhere, and the wheel gives you no clues of what Ryder is going to say. He's just so much in love with Gil, that as a player I am way behind, because I am curious and amused with Gil's personality, and his looks are not my thing, so I am just starting to think, well maybe I need to get to know him a bit more. But instead of getting to know him, I only can break it off or commit. Unlike Dorian who is brilliant to talk to, and totally captured my imagination and I could not get flirts fast enough... anyway, I really wish there was more to it, and Ryder had space to court him properly to actually fall in love before puttinng it into the fifth gear. As much as I dislike Jaal's, it lets you do just that. Fingers crossed the options get a bit more numerous and some dialogues get inserted between poker and a visit to Jill so you can actually make up your mind, maybe even kiss beforehand.

I would kill all 3 and declare Orlais a dominion of Skyhold.