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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 6:32:01 GMT
I just feel like we should do some more on topic posting. Is Reyes a top for sure? Does Gil like writing poetry for Scott more or less if you cheated on him in poker? If you romance both of them-are they going to both kill you when they find out, or are they happy with the specifics? These are all things that require serious discussion. I feel like Reyes could be written as a vers or bottom. Think about it this way: he's trying to gain control of Kadara (and succeeds if you let him), so maybe he likes to release control in the bedroom to Scott. There's a lot of different reasons why someone might want to bottom, regardless of their out-of-the-bedroom persona. As for Gil, I think he writes more poetry if cheated on in poker, but it's more humorous poetry with lots of parodying and biting sarcasm. I just don't see him being a bottom, vers maybe though sure. Sarcastic yet romantic poetry could be really hawt! I just feel like we should do some more on topic posting. Is Reyes a top for sure? Does Gil like writing poetry for Scott more or less if you cheated on him in poker? If you romance both of them-are they going to both kill you when they find out, or are they happy with the specifics? These are all things that require serious discussion. REYES IS VERS, I WILL GO DOWN WITH THIS SHIP IF I HAVE TO, AND I WANT TO SEE HIM BOTTOMING FOR SCOTT I'm okay with Vers, but I mostly want to see him top Scott something good. He needs that to wash away all the bad memories of bad touch PeeBee. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 6:33:37 GMT
I just feel like we should do some more on topic posting. Is Reyes a top for sure? Does Gil like writing poetry for Scott more or less if you cheated on him in poker? If you romance both of them-are they going to both kill you when they find out, or are they happy with the specifics? These are all things that require serious discussion. NO! The last time we had this debate months ago, some asshat derailed it and it ended prematurely. BIGGER SUPPORT PLATFORM FOR LGBT+ WRITERS IN VIDEO GAMES GODDAMNIT!! |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 6:33:53 GMT
Also, I propose that each time we respond to Steelcan, we must begin by saying, "Fun fact".
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 6:34:57 GMT
I just feel like we should do some more on topic posting. Is Reyes a top for sure? Does Gil like writing poetry for Scott more or less if you cheated on him in poker? If you romance both of them-are they going to both kill you when they find out, or are they happy with the specifics? These are all things that require serious discussion. NO! The last time we had this debate months ago, some asshat derailed it and it ended prematurely. BIGGER SUPPORT PLATFORM FOR LGBT+ WRITERS IN VIDEO GAMES GODDAMNIT!! I wasn't trying to stop you guys from talking about the subject. I just felt like some on topic posting along side it would be nice too. |
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Post by dhalion on May 28, 2017 6:38:24 GMT
I just feel like we should do some more on topic posting. Is Reyes a top for sure? Does Gil like writing poetry for Scott more or less if you cheated on him in poker? If you romance both of them-are they going to both kill you when they find out, or are they happy with the specifics? These are all things that require serious discussion. NO! The last time we had this debate months ago, some asshat derailed it and it ended prematurely. BIGGER SUPPORT PLATFORM FOR LGBT+ WRITERS IN VIDEO GAMES GODDAMNIT!! Keep going babe, I'll be silently supporting you from here.  |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 28, 2017 6:39:50 GMT
Also, I propose that each time we respond to Steelcan, we must begin by saying, "Fun fact". Fun fact, heterophobia is real and it ate me out platonically.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 6:40:53 GMT
I just wish certain folk would stop making other people's vents all about themselves.  And I wish people would just be honest and quite being coy (unless there was some other page spanning argument that I somehow missed and you're referring to someone else) [inb4 I'm being defensive] Fun Fact: She quoted MY post. It's not NECESSARY for her to stop being coy. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 6:41:10 GMT
I wasn't trying to stop you guys from talking about the subject. I just felt like some on topic posting along side it would be nice too. Keep going babe, I'll be silently supporting you from here. It might have ceased, because I can't see anything I could counter myself, though... Hmm... |
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 28, 2017 6:42:57 GMT
To Kill A Mockingbird isn't even a good example for making his point. It's not about race, except in the most tangential way. At best, it's about a white woman's perspective on racial issues. The black characters are minor, and she doesn't make any attempt to write from a "black perspective", which is for the better. She didn't write it for the benefit of black people either. If she intended it for any audience, it was other whites. In fact, To Kill A Mockingbird is a very apt comparison for what we get from BioWare currently. A milquetoast examination of minority issues, filtered through the perspective of a character who isn't affected by them and doesn't understand them. Yeah, but he cited the sustained critical acclaim it received (from critics part of the "American Public", lol) as evidence that outsiders must never try to actually consult a member of the group they're writing about. That is laughable. Where is the sustained critical acclaim for MEA? It's almost universally panned, aside from some eurogamer article that says it's the best game in the ME series. Well, that's just a non-argument. "You know the portrayal of black people is good because white people like it!" Lol. |
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Post by Dirk on May 28, 2017 6:49:41 GMT
Finally caught up with this thread  A few things: - I am always in support of more lgbtq+ writers, especially when the written media are supposed to include lgbtq+ contents. Most lgbtq contents I have read that are made by supposedly straight writers simply suck or lack insight or understanding. Of course there are a few exceptions. - Another reason that I support more lgbtq+ writers is to help alleviate job discrimination against lgbtq people which is unfortunately still legal in certain places and nations. This does not mean that I support firing all straight writers and hiring only lgbtq people - Reyes is a vers. Default Scott is bottom. Gil is vers. Jaal is confused and slow, but he is also vers. #VersPride |
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Yeah, but he cited the sustained critical acclaim it received (from critics part of the "American Public", lol) as evidence that outsiders must never try to actually consult a member of the group they're writing about. That is laughable. Where is the sustained critical acclaim for MEA? It's almost universally panned, aside from some eurogamer article that says it's the best game in the ME series. Well, that's just a non-argument. "You know the portrayal of black people is good because white people like it!" Lol. BTW, how is the Harper Lee example not ALSO an Anecdotal Fallacy, which is basically, "Using personal experience or an isolated example instead of a valid argument"? |
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Post by pessimistpanda on May 28, 2017 6:51:18 GMT
Well, that's just a non-argument. "You know the portrayal of black people is good because white people like it!" Lol. Hehehe, IKR? BTW, how is the Harper Lee example not ALSO an Anecdotal Fallacy, which is basically, "Using personal experience or an isolated example instead of a valid argument"? I'll take your word on that, I don't know all the fancy debate terms.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 6:55:09 GMT
Hehehe, IKR? BTW, how is the Harper Lee example not ALSO an Anecdotal Fallacy, which is basically, "Using personal experience or an isolated example instead of a valid argument"? I'll take your word on that, I don't know all the fancy debate terms. Oh I see where I messed up. I didn't define "valid"! Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.  Wait... how do we define "define"? Wait... how do we define "we"? |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 6:57:55 GMT
Finally caught up with this thread A few things: - I am always in support of more lgbtq+ writers, especially when the written media are supposed to include lgbtq+ contents. Most lgbtq contents I have read that are made by supposedly straight writers simply suck or lack insight or understanding. Of course there are a few exceptions. - Another reason that I support more lgbtq+ writers is to help alleviate job discrimination against lgbtq people which is unfortunately still legal in certain places and nations. This does not mean that I support firing all straight writers and hiring only lgbtq people - Reyes is a vers. Default Scott is bottom. Gil is vers. Jaal is confused and slow, but he is also vers. #VersPride You are the Gil to my default ScottNess baby! |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 7:06:43 GMT
But I wanna argue logical fallacies that are only important when YOU'RE the one pointing them out!!!  |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 28, 2017 7:11:41 GMT
Contain your memes before we're accused of personal attacks for mocking arguments made.  One day we'll have that perfect super gay game made by the gayz for the gayz...some day....  |
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Post by gaycaravaggio on May 28, 2017 7:14:26 GMT
- Reyes is a vers. Default Scott is bottom. Gil is vers. Jaal is confused and slow, but he is also vers. #VersPride  Where does Avitus fit into all this? |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 7:14:28 GMT
gaycaravaggio that sign confuses me. I'm now signphobic. I hope you are happy...with the specifics.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 7:16:22 GMT
- Reyes is a vers. Default Scott is bottom. Gil is vers. Jaal is confused and slow, but he is also vers. #VersPride Where does Avitus fit into all this? Do Turians have hiders that are capable of um...never mind...I don't want to know. Let's just leave some mystery to the Turian romances. |
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Post by Dirk on May 28, 2017 7:23:00 GMT
- Reyes is a vers. Default Scott is bottom. Gil is vers. Jaal is confused and slow, but he is also vers. #VersPride Where does Avitus fit into all this? I am all for representation of all gay sexual proclivities, so Avitus must now be a top.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 7:40:49 GMT
No, no, none of these npcs (because no squad field members, thanks Andromeda), will do.
Prince Sidon. Yeah.
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Post by Dirk on May 28, 2017 8:05:59 GMT
Finally caught up with this thread A few things: - I am always in support of more lgbtq+ writers, especially when the written media are supposed to include lgbtq+ contents. Most lgbtq contents I have read that are made by supposedly straight writers simply suck or lack insight or understanding. Of course there are a few exceptions. - Another reason that I support more lgbtq+ writers is to help alleviate job discrimination against lgbtq people which is unfortunately still legal in certain places and nations. This does not mean that I support firing all straight writers and hiring only lgbtq people - Reyes is a vers. Default Scott is bottom. Gil is vers. Jaal is confused and slow, but he is also vers. #VersPride You are the Gil to my default ScottNess baby! I wish I am as hot as Gil is, but thanks!  |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 8:24:57 GMT
You are the Gil to my default ScottNess baby! I wish I am as hot as Gil is, but thanks! You are way hotter then Gil. You are welcome. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 8:30:49 GMT
What's wrong with that implication? Are you saying a straight writer could not possibly benefit from hearing about a gay writer's opinions on LGBT content? Writing is not like beauty where you're either born with it or not. Sure, some people have an innate talent that gives them a leg up, but the craft of good writing can be learned. What gaycaravaggio is talking about (I think) is a straight writer taking a gay writer's opinions on board because obviously, the gay person knows more about being gay than a straight person. There is no insult to straight people baked into that statement. It's not that all straight writers are "incapable", just that many of them would benefit from a gay writer's input. That seems pretty reasonable. No? And I'm maintaining that its not necessary, as shown in other examples of outsiders being able to deal with a situation that doesn't directly involve themselves and receive monumental and long lasting praise for it, as evidence by my reference to To Kill a MockingbirdFun Fact:  But of course, you can know everything about a person's POV without ever actually engaging with them, right? |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2017 8:37:32 GMT
I wish I am as hot as Gil is, but thanks! You are way hotter then Gil. You are welcome. This may be a stupid question but do we know how old Gil is? He looks fully 45. Maybe his biological clock is forcing him to have a boosted-batter baby? |
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